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PAiN
10-26-2010, 02:57 AM
Unleashing The Beast by increasing GH 10X

So you want to look like the Hulk or maybe you just want to be lean and muscular. So what's actually stopping you? Genetics... but what exactly is limiting your muscle growth, while at the same time limiting the burning of fat. Quite simply the answer is Myostatin. Myostatin is a direct negative regulator of the amount of skeletal muscle you have and how lean you are. Studies have proven this using mice with the myostatin knock out gene in which they don't have myostatin to limit muscle growth. These Mighty lean ripped mice are called double muscled and they look like mice on steroids, all without working out. The prized winning Belgian Blue and Piedmontese cattle have mutations of myostatin resulting in double muscling. Mutations in humans have been shown too have the same results.

Here are some myostatin links:

1) Myostatin Controlling Obesity and Insulin Resistance Obesity and insulin resistance (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16182246?dopt=Abstract)

2) Muscle and MyostatinDouble muscling in cattle due to mutations in the myostatingene (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=9356471)

3) Burn more Fat Suppression of body fat accumulation in myostatin-deficient mice (http://www.jci.org/articles/view/13562)

4) Myostatin in HumansChild with myostatin mutation (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/350/26/2682)



So what is CJC-1295 and what does it have to do with myostatin you ask... CJC-1295 is a long acting synthetic version of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH). 30mcg/kg to 60mcg/kg doses can increase gh levels up to 10X normal for 6 days or more with plasma IGF-1 concentrations by 3X for 9-11 days. The estimated 1/2 life is 5.8-8.1 days. After multiple doses the mean IGF-1 levels remain above base level for up to 28 days. Results show that 30mcg/kg CJC-1295 is equal to 5iu's of gh without the normal negative side effects from taking gh. In essence its much better to use CJC-1295 to make your body produce its own gh instead of taking a synthetic gh that also shuts down your normal production. So how does CJC-1295 and Myostatin relate. Growth hormone directly regulates myostatin. As growth hormone rises, myostatin lowers, which unleashes your potential for muscle growth. As myostatin lowers glucocorticoids effect on fat storage and muscle breakdown lowers. CJC-1295 dramatically raises gh levels which will dramatically lower myostatin which in turn will lower the effects of glucocorticoids fat storage and muscle breakdown. Now you know what has changed that has turned the Pro's into Freaks.

Studies to prove it:

1) Improve Cardiovascular Functions Growth Hormone and Cardiovascular Risk Factors (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/90/3/1864?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=780&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

2) Get Lean & Muscular Growth Hormone Replacement Therapy Improves Body Composition (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/11/4104?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=180&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

3) Burn FatGrowth Hormone?Releasing Hormone in HIV-Infected Men With Lipodystrophy (http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/2/210)

4) Dosing and resultsResults of CJC-1295 in Healthy Adults (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/3/799?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=Aids+cjc-1295&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

5) Anabolic GH's direct anabolic effect from lowering Myostatin (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/11/5490?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

6) Burn Fat-Retain MuscleLower Myostatin and prevent the catabolic effects of glucocorticoids (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/148/1/452?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

7) Prevent ObesityGlucocorticoids and Obesity (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/6/2633?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=glucocorticoids+fat&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)


Steroids-GH-Myostatin Link

Read this study carefully, it will show that raising testosterone to supraphysiological levels increased pulsatile gh secretion. Supraphysiological is the key word here, cause anything less has no effect. Supraphysiological Test Levels increase GH (http://raising%20testosterone%20to%20supraphysiological%2 0levels%20increased%20pulsatile%20gh%20secretion%2 0/)

This study shows that androgens directly increase gh output without estrogen. Androgens directly increase GH (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/71/4/846?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

Raising Testosterone levels lowers Growth Hormone Binding Protein. This protein binds up excess gh. Testosterone lowering GHBP (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/4/1278?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT) if you read the full text you will figure out that it's the spike in Test levels above normal from the shots that lowers GHBP proving that supraphysiological test levels raise gh and lowers GHBP

As you can see androgens can directly and indirectly raise growth hormone levels resulting in lowering Myostatin which you already learned increases muscle mass. On a side note leptin has a huge role in fat storage and as gh raises, leptin lowers. I won't delve into discussing leptin cause it can be complicated so do a search to learn more...



CJC-1295
Anti-Aging

Lets go beyond muscle building and fat loss and discuss the well documented anti-aging benefits of growth hormone. Since this info is so plenty full online I'll only outline the known benefits and let you fulfill you quest for Anti-Aging by doing your own research. The rate of GH secretion from the pituitary gland is at its peak around puberty, declining progressively as we age beyond that point. Around the late 30s and throughout the 40s, GH levels continue to dip considerably, causing the telltale signs of aging to appear. Fat tissue begins to collect in areas where it may have not before, the skin begins to lose thickness, bone mass becomes depleted, energy levels drop, and mental clarity may become clouded.
For the purposes of anti-aging therapy, GH treatment functions to re-stimulate cell production to youthful levels restoring form and function to the entire body, from the inside out. Those who have undergone successful anti-aging treatment with GH or a combination of GH and other diminishing hormones such as testosterone have been reported to experience improvement in the skin?s appearance, renewed energy, mental acuity, invigorated health, enhanced sexual function, an overall sense of well being and a more youthful lean muscled look. Hundreds of studies have been done on the controlled administration of true HGH in adults. It has been shown to raise energy levels, enhance lean muscle development, decrease body fat, strengthen the heart, improve cholesterol and triglyceride levels and HDL/LDL ratios, fortify bones, smooth out skin wrinkles, sharpen memory, improve sexual function, regenerate damaged tissue, strengthen the immune system as well as improve sleep.
Somatotropin (HGH) from the pituitary gland works by stimulating protein production and synthesis in all tissues of the body. This results in an increase in organ healing and regeneration, which is associated with increase resistance to illness and injury.
In the skin, documentation regarding somatotropin (HGH) supplementation has shown increased collagen synthesis, which makes the skin thicker and smoother. In the bone, these studies showed increased bone density. In the internal organs and sex organs, research showed increased size and markedly improved function.
The immune system, research also showed increased immune system regulation and activity, resulting in fewer infectious illnesses. In adults, HGH is necessary for proper repair and regeneration of injured tissues.
One of the widely reported results of somatotropin (HGH) supplementation is the effect it has on the body's sexual centers. Research shows heightened desire and function in both men and women.
Beginning around the age of 20 years old, our natural production of somatotropin (HGH) begins to decline at the average rate of 14% per decade.
By the age of 40, somatotropin (HGH) production has decreased 30% over our youthful production level, and by the age of 60, by 80% on average. The decline in somatotropin (HGH) correlates with many of the effects of aging including loss of lean body mass (muscle, bone, skin and internal organs), increase in total body fat, thinning and wrinkling of skin, decreased immune function and decreased sexual desire and function.
As a result of the decline in somatotropin (HGH), and because it is the master hormone, other hormones also decline with age, such as Testosterone, Estrogen, Progesterone and DHEA, as well as many other important mood-elevating hormones. Examples of other hormones that also decrease are thyroid and thymus hormones, which can cause menopause in women and andropause in men.



Growth Hormone can:
Restore muscle loss
Increase skin thickness
Reduce total body fat
Improve bone density


People have seen specific improvements from using HGH in:


Skin tightness and moisture
Mental speed and clarity
Enhanced sexual function
Elevated mood and energy levels
Improved aerobic capacity
Significantly greater immune function
Increased wound healing capacity


So, gh therapy sounds great for anti-aging so what's the catch... The catch is keeping your levels in a physicological level and to not exceed youthful levels. As with any hormone, raising levels above youthful normal levels can cause unwanted side effects which are easily noticed like joint problems, the development of carpel tunnel and excess water weight gain. Its simple, just lower your dose if you notice a problem. There is a huge difference between keeping levels well above normal for years for anti-aging and doing a cycle with gh/cjc-1295 that exceed normal levels. Short term higher levels have much less potitential to cause long term problems... Ok, so you are interested in anti-aging with cjc-1295, what dose should you use. When taking into consideration the studies on it's outcome of gh production, as little as 1mg weekly is needed and no more then 2mg a week. This makes CJC-1295 extremely cost effective. Vials could be shared with fellow researchers if only 1mg is used weekly. The lab states after reconsituting cjc-1295 it can be refrozen to be used later but is best used without refreezing, so there may be a slight potiency loss by doing this.


Dosing for Muscle Growth

In the studies 30mcg/kg or 60mcg/kg were used resulting in 2-10 fold in gh production. A 200lb man weighs aprox 90kg... thats 200 divided by 2.2 = 90 so thats 30mcg X 90=2700mcg=2.7mg or 60mcg X 90=5400mcg=5.4mg weekly these doses showed safety... I believe a minimum 2mg a week should be used and no more then 6mg... You decided but I say start low and work your way up to the dose you are comfortable with and remember to keep this short term to reach a specific goal and then go on an anti-aging dose between cycles which would also preserve the muscle growth you build during the cycle.


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Dosage and how much do you need?

CJC 3x a day 100mcg each stick
GHRP-6 or 2 3x a day 250mcg each stick

You can combine them in the same insulin needle.

1 bottle of CJC has 2mg in it. So adding 2ml of Bacteriostatic water to it you would have 100mcg every 10iu. 3x a day protocol you would use 300mcg ED so one 2mg bottle would last you roughly 7 days.

1 bottle of GHRP-2 or 6 has 5mg in it. I add 2ml bacteriostatic water and that gives you 250mcg every 10iu. Doing it that way one bottle of 5mg will last you roughly 7 days.

Now if you want good results you want to do 3 shots ED 5 days a week and take the weekends off to avoid overloading the receptors or desensitization.

So for 2 months worth you would need around 6 bottles of each and that would give you 42 days worth of peptide not counting the weekends.

Also my ideal time to inject would be first thing in the morning then eat about 30 minutes later. Then inject 1 hour after drinking your post workout shake assuming you workout after 1pm or so. Last time to inject is right before bed to increase the GH response while asleep.

Shipping:
Vacuum sealed vials preserve the peptide and allow it to be shipped without ice packs. Peptides aren't as fragile as people make them out to be but you certainly want to put them in the fride when you receive them.
Storage: Refrigerate... 1yr + storage in the fridge
Reconstituted:After reconstituting with Bacteriostatic Water use within 3-5 days

paolo123
10-08-2011, 04:43 PM
I LOVE THIS STUFF!!!!!!!!!

VictorZ06
10-09-2011, 09:57 PM
I used Dat's protocol about a year ago with CJC & GHRP and I really liked the effects. GHRP-6 really boosted my appetite...I use it all the time now for my bulking programs.



/V

paolo123
10-09-2011, 10:46 PM
This makes me eat like a beast

VictorZ06
10-09-2011, 11:18 PM
This makes me eat like a beast
Enjoy it while it lasts....the hunger pains for me only work for a few weeks and then go away. :( Not sure if this applies to everyone though.



/V

paolo123
10-10-2011, 12:15 AM
its funny u say that because the first few days i would get very hungry as soon as i pinned, then i stopped getting hungry. a couple days after i was eating like a beast.

rizzo
11-12-2011, 01:35 AM
Is it logical to run this stack while on gh? Or should you run this by itself?

FREEKSHOW
11-12-2011, 05:03 AM
Someone correct me if i'm wrong. But I think That using GH will stop the body from producing its natural GH.The CJC-1295 & GHRP-6 stack produce in Overdrive mode.
So I would think that it would not work like you would want it to, or at the very least not as well.

WidowMaker
11-12-2011, 10:54 AM
Good read.
I'm liking this.
So.......where do I find these at (or at least the names used on the sites that have these)?

bigpimpdaddy
11-12-2011, 01:16 PM
Very interesting read...never knew that much about CJC-1295 & GHRP-6...I just knew you had to pin very often so I stayed away from it..now that I am older I am considering running some to try and see how I react to it..
Do we have sponsors on here that carry these products?

FREEKSHOW
11-12-2011, 05:40 PM
^^^yes well until he leaves

DGAF
11-13-2011, 01:34 AM
What is the length of time that is recommended? The dosing schedule gives what you need for 2 months but how many months is advised to be on this stack? For growth they say 6-8 months minimum, what about this ghrp-6 and cjc-1295 stack?


DGAF

FREEKSHOW
11-17-2011, 03:54 AM
I would think that sense the object of this stack is to increase your GH levels you would need to be on this just as long as GH?

mikeyg51
03-19-2012, 05:25 PM
GREAT shit here! I didn't know GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 should be run simultaneously....I am gonna jump on this soon....what about IGFlr3 in conjunction with the first 2??

Racer51
08-07-2012, 05:42 PM
The ghrp-6 worked great for a bulking cycle so damn hungry easy to eat alot of food

Racer51
08-28-2012, 02:48 AM
Whats the dac in the cjc their is cjc with dac and without does any one know ?

spraynpray
08-28-2012, 09:54 AM
Whats the dac in the cjc their is cjc with dac and without does any one know ?

From what I understand w/o DAC simulates the way a man releases GH through a pulse. With DAC is a steady release the same way a woman releases GH.

csmilz9
08-28-2012, 12:41 PM
This is awesome..never cared much to learn about peptides, but maybe I will now.

simonmagus84
09-13-2012, 12:11 PM
i think it is best to use igf with hcg and when your done with that you go on cjc and ghrp

af86
03-05-2013, 09:07 PM
Can you use ghrp6 and cjc while on aas cycle?
And how long do u use ghrp6&cjc?

krustus
03-05-2013, 10:30 PM
i'm wanting to learn more about these too. use in between cycles or on cycles? and how long should you run and what to do when you stop (do you need a form of PCT?)

joebob
03-06-2013, 12:05 AM
To further push your GH pulse from the cjc1295&ghrp2 add an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor such as galanthamine. That will allow the GH pulse to continue or put simply it will stop your body from sending the shut off switch for the release of GH.

joebob
03-07-2013, 10:56 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts....the hunger pains for me only work for a few weeks and then go away. :( Not sure if this applies to everyone though.



/V

It does not as I had them for 6 months in my last run of ghrp/cjc

inhuman
03-08-2013, 01:57 AM
From what I understand w/o DAC simulates the way a man releases GH through a pulse. With DAC is a steady release the same way a woman releases GH.

^^yes this is correct. with out dac is actually called mod grf

Augie
04-25-2013, 11:03 PM
Wow, alot of information to take in and consider. Thanks

Torres
05-12-2013, 09:55 AM
This is a great post, started peps yesterday, GHRP-2 & CJC !!! So far so good and I'm only going to take it 2x a day . Time of day is going to depend on how my day goes with work and time available. I have two friends taking them now and they're loving the results . Hope to reap the same benefits they are !!!

flip1972
07-20-2013, 10:25 AM
Ty guys for this

HFO3
07-20-2013, 10:53 AM
Interesting, who's a reputable shop?

sofargone561
07-22-2013, 02:36 AM
well i was going to not use this due to cost but this just made me say fuck it lol going back at it again! whos got the good stuff for a decent price?

af86
07-31-2013, 04:13 AM
Good post!

tsek0s
11-05-2013, 08:40 PM
great next week i am about to put cj and ghrp6 combination nice infos here...

PAiN
11-06-2013, 05:40 AM
To further push your GH pulse from the cjc1295&ghrp2 add an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor such as galanthamine. That will allow the GH pulse to continue or put simply it will stop your body from sending the shut off switch for the release of GH. Great tip!

tsek0s
11-07-2013, 03:12 PM
pain generaly for a men is beter to use cj without dac??

evolutionpep
12-19-2013, 09:26 PM
Great post!!!!

Clark Kent
04-02-2014, 06:02 PM
Seriously wanting to try This stack!

ElitePeptides
05-09-2014, 12:04 AM
I see why this is a sticky!

tazzy21
10-16-2014, 10:47 AM
Hey guys... experienced with AS but not with peptides... so the cjc1295.. kind of unclear, is it injected daily or every 4 days? And do you have to add bacterias tactic water to the vial or it comes ready to go? Thanks.

Hatefactory
10-17-2014, 12:18 PM
Hey guys... experienced with AS but not with peptides... so the cjc1295.. kind of unclear, is it injected daily or every 4 days? And do you have to add bacterias tactic water to the vial or it comes ready to go? Thanks.

Yes you have to add bac water to it.

Cjc 1295 no DAC you would be best off pinning 3 times a day with ghrp2 or 6.

Im pretty sure cjc 1295 with DAC is a twice a week pin but it causes a GH bleed which is not ideal.

Elvia1023
01-22-2015, 01:48 AM
You can't beat a GHRH and GHRP combo for sustained GH release. The best thing about peptides is they increase endogenous gh which contains all 5 isoforms of growth hormone. Whereas exogenous gh (hgh injs) contain only the 20 kilodalton isoform. Different isoforms affect tissues in discreet ways that the 20 kDa isoform cannot. I urge anyone to simply try CJC-DAC just once to see what it can do for you. So many guys are shut off to peps it is ridiculous. They complain about the current market for hgh yet they have something readily available that if they tried just once they should love. For sheer bulking I recommend adding GHRP-6 due to it's huge effect on appetite. For cutting hexarelin is a good choice but you need to watch out for it's effects on prolactin. MK-677 is an oral and so convenient and a great choice with cjc-dac. The best cycle I have run to date was cjc-dac with ghrp-2 3 times daily and 1 large ipamorelin dose pre bed. You can't really go wrong with all of the ones I listed. The key is simply finding what works best for you.

For all of the above cycles I recommend using an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor to increase the effects of the peptides. For this I would recommend Huperzine A dosed at 100-200mcg 3 times daily.

c_so19
01-12-2016, 06:07 AM
How much impamorelin did you use?

bobhead
04-11-2016, 01:38 AM
Thanks.

draconian2014
04-11-2016, 09:06 PM
ok really sorry for being dumb but what is dac and why do we need it or should we take the one without dac ?

bobhead
04-12-2016, 12:22 AM
Dac extends the half life up to a week.

jsnm
09-25-2016, 01:18 PM
Awesome write up Pain thank you for the info


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CJC4ME
09-25-2016, 10:10 PM
It isn't logical to run both. The CJC and GHRH will cause your pituitary to pulse, releasing GH. If you take HGH you will shutdown your pituitary. It would be like taking anciliaries to kickstart your own test production while also taking anabolics.

CJC4ME
09-25-2016, 10:25 PM
Hey Joebob,

I am curious to know if this will further exacerbate the GH bleed? I have heard that using Huperzine-A helped, but I am just realizing now that its an AChE Inhibitor. Thats really interesting. Do you have any studies related to it?

I am about to start pinning the CJC and using GHRH-6 as a nasal spray, since it is a short chain and will absorb nasally. I would pin, but in my current situation, I can't do that 3-5 times a day without someone noticing. I am currently running Ipam and Mod, but from what I have figured out, the Mod is too long to run nasally, so I suspect I am just wasting it. Its already mixed together, so its too late now. The Ipam is doing its thing though because I am getting slight headaches, which is what happened to me when I was able to pin it.

bionic redneck
09-25-2016, 10:32 PM
If you can't inject during the day can one inject 2X a day, if so how much?

bobhead
09-25-2016, 11:01 PM
I've never heard of nasal form, where did you get that?

bigjo
09-26-2016, 01:53 AM
could it be used as off season with your aas for lean mass

FutureIFBBProJARow23
04-16-2017, 01:46 PM
Unleashing The Beast by increasing GH 10X

So you want to look like the Hulk or maybe you just want to be lean and muscular. So what's actually stopping you? Genetics... but what exactly is limiting your muscle growth, while at the same time limiting the burning of fat. Quite simply the answer is Myostatin. Myostatin is a direct negative regulator of the amount of skeletal muscle you have and how lean you are. Studies have proven this using mice with the myostatin knock out gene in which they don't have myostatin to limit muscle growth. These Mighty lean ripped mice are called double muscled and they look like mice on steroids, all without working out. The prized winning Belgian Blue and Piedmontese cattle have mutations of myostatin resulting in double muscling. Mutations in humans have been shown too have the same results.

Here are some myostatin links:

1) Myostatin Controlling Obesity and Insulin Resistance Obesity and insulin resistance (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16182246?dopt=Abstract)

2) Muscle and MyostatinDouble muscling in cattle due to mutations in the myostatingene (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=9356471)

3) Burn more Fat Suppression of body fat accumulation in myostatin-deficient mice (http://www.jci.org/articles/view/13562)

4) Myostatin in HumansChild with myostatin mutation (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/350/26/2682)



So what is CJC-1295 and what does it have to do with myostatin you ask... CJC-1295 is a long acting synthetic version of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH). 30mcg/kg to 60mcg/kg doses can increase gh levels up to 10X normal for 6 days or more with plasma IGF-1 concentrations by 3X for 9-11 days. The estimated 1/2 life is 5.8-8.1 days. After multiple doses the mean IGF-1 levels remain above base level for up to 28 days. Results show that 30mcg/kg CJC-1295 is equal to 5iu's of gh without the normal negative side effects from taking gh. In essence its much better to use CJC-1295 to make your body produce its own gh instead of taking a synthetic gh that also shuts down your normal production. So how does CJC-1295 and Myostatin relate. Growth hormone directly regulates myostatin. As growth hormone rises, myostatin lowers, which unleashes your potential for muscle growth. As myostatin lowers glucocorticoids effect on fat storage and muscle breakdown lowers. CJC-1295 dramatically raises gh levels which will dramatically lower myostatin which in turn will lower the effects of glucocorticoids fat storage and muscle breakdown. Now you know what has changed that has turned the Pro's into Freaks.

Studies to prove it:

1) Improve Cardiovascular Functions Growth Hormone and Cardiovascular Risk Factors (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/90/3/1864?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=780&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

2) Get Lean & Muscular Growth Hormone Replacement Therapy Improves Body Composition (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/11/4104?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=180&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

3) Burn FatGrowth Hormone?Releasing Hormone in HIV-Infected Men With Lipodystrophy (http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/2/210)

4) Dosing and resultsResults of CJC-1295 in Healthy Adults (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/3/799?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=Aids+cjc-1295&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

5) Anabolic GH's direct anabolic effect from lowering Myostatin (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/11/5490?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

6) Burn Fat-Retain MuscleLower Myostatin and prevent the catabolic effects of glucocorticoids (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/148/1/452?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

7) Prevent ObesityGlucocorticoids and Obesity (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/6/2633?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=glucocorticoids+fat&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)


Steroids-GH-Myostatin Link

Read this study carefully, it will show that raising testosterone to supraphysiological levels increased pulsatile gh secretion. Supraphysiological is the key word here, cause anything less has no effect. Supraphysiological Test Levels increase GH (http://raising%20testosterone%20to%20supraphysiological%2 0levels%20increased%20pulsatile%20gh%20secretion%2 0/)

This study shows that androgens directly increase gh output without estrogen. Androgens directly increase GH (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/71/4/846?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

Raising Testosterone levels lowers Growth Hormone Binding Protein. This protein binds up excess gh. Testosterone lowering GHBP (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/4/1278?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT) if you read the full text you will figure out that it's the spike in Test levels above normal from the shots that lowers GHBP proving that supraphysiological test levels raise gh and lowers GHBP

As you can see androgens can directly and indirectly raise growth hormone levels resulting in lowering Myostatin which you already learned increases muscle mass. On a side note leptin has a huge role in fat storage and as gh raises, leptin lowers. I won't delve into discussing leptin cause it can be complicated so do a search to learn more...



CJC-1295
Anti-Aging

Lets go beyond muscle building and fat loss and discuss the well documented anti-aging benefits of growth hormone. Since this info is so plenty full online I'll only outline the known benefits and let you fulfill you quest for Anti-Aging by doing your own research. The rate of GH secretion from the pituitary gland is at its peak around puberty, declining progressively as we age beyond that point. Around the late 30s and throughout the 40s, GH levels continue to dip considerably, causing the telltale signs of aging to appear. Fat tissue begins to collect in areas where it may have not before, the skin begins to lose thickness, bone mass becomes depleted, energy levels drop, and mental clarity may become clouded.
For the purposes of anti-aging therapy, GH treatment functions to re-stimulate cell production to youthful levels restoring form and function to the entire body, from the inside out. Those who have undergone successful anti-aging treatment with GH or a combination of GH and other diminishing hormones such as testosterone have been reported to experience improvement in the skin?s appearance, renewed energy, mental acuity, invigorated health, enhanced sexual function, an overall sense of well being and a more youthful lean muscled look. Hundreds of studies have been done on the controlled administration of true HGH in adults. It has been shown to raise energy levels, enhance lean muscle development, decrease body fat, strengthen the heart, improve cholesterol and triglyceride levels and HDL/LDL ratios, fortify bones, smooth out skin wrinkles, sharpen memory, improve sexual function, regenerate damaged tissue, strengthen the immune system as well as improve sleep.
Somatotropin (HGH) from the pituitary gland works by stimulating protein production and synthesis in all tissues of the body. This results in an increase in organ healing and regeneration, which is associated with increase resistance to illness and injury.
In the skin, documentation regarding somatotropin (HGH) supplementation has shown increased collagen synthesis, which makes the skin thicker and smoother. In the bone, these studies showed increased bone density. In the internal organs and sex organs, research showed increased size and markedly improved function.
The immune system, research also showed increased immune system regulation and activity, resulting in fewer infectious illnesses. In adults, HGH is necessary for proper repair and regeneration of injured tissues.
One of the widely reported results of somatotropin (HGH) supplementation is the effect it has on the body's sexual centers. Research shows heightened desire and function in both men and women.
Beginning around the age of 20 years old, our natural production of somatotropin (HGH) begins to decline at the average rate of 14% per decade.
By the age of 40, somatotropin (HGH) production has decreased 30% over our youthful production level, and by the age of 60, by 80% on average. The decline in somatotropin (HGH) correlates with many of the effects of aging including loss of lean body mass (muscle, bone, skin and internal organs), increase in total body fat, thinning and wrinkling of skin, decreased immune function and decreased sexual desire and function.
As a result of the decline in somatotropin (HGH), and because it is the master hormone, other hormones also decline with age, such as Testosterone, Estrogen, Progesterone and DHEA, as well as many other important mood-elevating hormones. Examples of other hormones that also decrease are thyroid and thymus hormones, which can cause menopause in women and andropause in men.



Growth Hormone can:
Restore muscle loss
Increase skin thickness
Reduce total body fat
Improve bone density


People have seen specific improvements from using HGH in:


Skin tightness and moisture
Mental speed and clarity
Enhanced sexual function
Elevated mood and energy levels
Improved aerobic capacity
Significantly greater immune function
Increased wound healing capacity


So, gh therapy sounds great for anti-aging so what's the catch... The catch is keeping your levels in a physicological level and to not exceed youthful levels. As with any hormone, raising levels above youthful normal levels can cause unwanted side effects which are easily noticed like joint problems, the development of carpel tunnel and excess water weight gain. Its simple, just lower your dose if you notice a problem. There is a huge difference between keeping levels well above normal for years for anti-aging and doing a cycle with gh/cjc-1295 that exceed normal levels. Short term higher levels have much less potitential to cause long term problems... Ok, so you are interested in anti-aging with cjc-1295, what dose should you use. When taking into consideration the studies on it's outcome of gh production, as little as 1mg weekly is needed and no more then 2mg a week. This makes CJC-1295 extremely cost effective. Vials could be shared with fellow researchers if only 1mg is used weekly. The lab states after reconsituting cjc-1295 it can be refrozen to be used later but is best used without refreezing, so there may be a slight potiency loss by doing this.


Dosing for Muscle Growth

In the studies 30mcg/kg or 60mcg/kg were used resulting in 2-10 fold in gh production. A 200lb man weighs aprox 90kg... thats 200 divided by 2.2 = 90 so thats 30mcg X 90=2700mcg=2.7mg or 60mcg X 90=5400mcg=5.4mg weekly these doses showed safety... I believe a minimum 2mg a week should be used and no more then 6mg... You decided but I say start low and work your way up to the dose you are comfortable with and remember to keep this short term to reach a specific goal and then go on an anti-aging dose between cycles which would also preserve the muscle growth you build during the cycle.


Stop Wasting Your Money On GH
CJC-1295 Is More Effective
costs much less
less side effects because its your natural gh
doesn't shut you down
Increase Natural GH 10X
unleash
Anti-Aging Benefits
and
The Beast
within you




Dosage and how much do you need?

CJC 3x a day 100mcg each stick
GHRP-6 or 2 3x a day 250mcg each stick

You can combine them in the same insulin needle.

1 bottle of CJC has 2mg in it. So adding 2ml of Bacteriostatic water to it you would have 100mcg every 10iu. 3x a day protocol you would use 300mcg ED so one 2mg bottle would last you roughly 7 days.

1 bottle of GHRP-2 or 6 has 5mg in it. I add 2ml bacteriostatic water and that gives you 250mcg every 10iu. Doing it that way one bottle of 5mg will last you roughly 7 days.

Now if you want good results you want to do 3 shots ED 5 days a week and take the weekends off to avoid overloading the receptors or desensitization.

So for 2 months worth you would need around 6 bottles of each and that would give you 42 days worth of peptide not counting the weekends.

Also my ideal time to inject would be first thing in the morning then eat about 30 minutes later. Then inject 1 hour after drinking your post workout shake assuming you workout after 1pm or so. Last time to inject is right before bed to increase the GH response while asleep.

Shipping:
Vacuum sealed vials preserve the peptide and allow it to be shipped without ice packs. Peptides aren't as fragile as people make them out to be but you certainly want to put them in the fride when you receive them.
Storage: Refrigerate... 1yr + storage in the fridge
Reconstituted:After reconstituting with Bacteriostatic Water use within 3-5 days I like substituting ghrp2 instead of 6.

whoplanswins
06-21-2017, 02:56 AM
I like substituting ghrp2 instead of 6.






Ive jus started cjc today! wooop wooop!

ksutherland
11-17-2017, 02:20 AM
Awesome Info. Just started with T3, Slin, and dnp. After cutting phase ready to jump back into some peptides and attempt to get my swoll on.

MafiaMuscle
02-09-2018, 06:56 AM
Very interesting read

NoXainNoGain
06-05-2018, 06:08 AM
Unleashing The Beast by increasing GH 10X

So you want to look like the Hulk or maybe you just want to be lean and muscular. So what's actually stopping you? Genetics... but what exactly is limiting your muscle growth, while at the same time limiting the burning of fat. Quite simply the answer is Myostatin. Myostatin is a direct negative regulator of the amount of skeletal muscle you have and how lean you are. Studies have proven this using mice with the myostatin knock out gene in which they don't have myostatin to limit muscle growth. These Mighty lean ripped mice are called double muscled and they look like mice on steroids, all without working out. The prized winning Belgian Blue and Piedmontese cattle have mutations of myostatin resulting in double muscling. Mutations in humans have been shown too have the same results.

Here are some myostatin links:

1) Myostatin Controlling Obesity and Insulin Resistance Obesity and insulin resistance (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16182246?dopt=Abstract)

2) Muscle and MyostatinDouble muscling in cattle due to mutations in the myostatingene (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=9356471)

3) Burn more Fat Suppression of body fat accumulation in myostatin-deficient mice (http://www.jci.org/articles/view/13562)

4) Myostatin in HumansChild with myostatin mutation (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/350/26/2682)



So what is CJC-1295 and what does it have to do with myostatin you ask... CJC-1295 is a long acting synthetic version of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH). 30mcg/kg to 60mcg/kg doses can increase gh levels up to 10X normal for 6 days or more with plasma IGF-1 concentrations by 3X for 9-11 days. The estimated 1/2 life is 5.8-8.1 days. After multiple doses the mean IGF-1 levels remain above base level for up to 28 days. Results show that 30mcg/kg CJC-1295 is equal to 5iu's of gh without the normal negative side effects from taking gh. In essence its much better to use CJC-1295 to make your body produce its own gh instead of taking a synthetic gh that also shuts down your normal production. So how does CJC-1295 and Myostatin relate. Growth hormone directly regulates myostatin. As growth hormone rises, myostatin lowers, which unleashes your potential for muscle growth. As myostatin lowers glucocorticoids effect on fat storage and muscle breakdown lowers. CJC-1295 dramatically raises gh levels which will dramatically lower myostatin which in turn will lower the effects of glucocorticoids fat storage and muscle breakdown. Now you know what has changed that has turned the Pro's into Freaks.

Studies to prove it:

1) Improve Cardiovascular Functions Growth Hormone and Cardiovascular Risk Factors (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/90/3/1864?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=780&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

2) Get Lean & Muscular Growth Hormone Replacement Therapy Improves Body Composition (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/11/4104?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=estrogen+male+muscle+metabolism&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=180&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

3) Burn FatGrowth Hormone?Releasing Hormone in HIV-Infected Men With Lipodystrophy (http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/2/210)

4) Dosing and resultsResults of CJC-1295 in Healthy Adults (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/3/799?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=Aids+cjc-1295&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

5) Anabolic GH's direct anabolic effect from lowering Myostatin (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/11/5490?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

6) Burn Fat-Retain MuscleLower Myostatin and prevent the catabolic effects of glucocorticoids (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/148/1/452?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=myostatin+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

7) Prevent ObesityGlucocorticoids and Obesity (http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/6/2633?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=glucocorticoids+fat&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)


Steroids-GH-Myostatin Link

Read this study carefully, it will show that raising testosterone to supraphysiological levels increased pulsatile gh secretion. Supraphysiological is the key word here, cause anything less has no effect. Supraphysiological Test Levels increase GH (http://raising%20testosterone%20to%20supraphysiological%2 0levels%20increased%20pulsatile%20gh%20secretion%2 0/)

This study shows that androgens directly increase gh output without estrogen. Androgens directly increase GH (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/71/4/846?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT)

Raising Testosterone levels lowers Growth Hormone Binding Protein. This protein binds up excess gh. Testosterone lowering GHBP (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/4/1278?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=androgens+gh+growth+hormone&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT) if you read the full text you will figure out that it's the spike in Test levels above normal from the shots that lowers GHBP proving that supraphysiological test levels raise gh and lowers GHBP

As you can see androgens can directly and indirectly raise growth hormone levels resulting in lowering Myostatin which you already learned increases muscle mass. On a side note leptin has a huge role in fat storage and as gh raises, leptin lowers. I won't delve into discussing leptin cause it can be complicated so do a search to learn more...



CJC-1295
Anti-Aging

Lets go beyond muscle building and fat loss and discuss the well documented anti-aging benefits of growth hormone. Since this info is so plenty full online I'll only outline the known benefits and let you fulfill you quest for Anti-Aging by doing your own research. The rate of GH secretion from the pituitary gland is at its peak around puberty, declining progressively as we age beyond that point. Around the late 30s and throughout the 40s, GH levels continue to dip considerably, causing the telltale signs of aging to appear. Fat tissue begins to collect in areas where it may have not before, the skin begins to lose thickness, bone mass becomes depleted, energy levels drop, and mental clarity may become clouded.
For the purposes of anti-aging therapy, GH treatment functions to re-stimulate cell production to youthful levels restoring form and function to the entire body, from the inside out. Those who have undergone successful anti-aging treatment with GH or a combination of GH and other diminishing hormones such as testosterone have been reported to experience improvement in the skin?s appearance, renewed energy, mental acuity, invigorated health, enhanced sexual function, an overall sense of well being and a more youthful lean muscled look. Hundreds of studies have been done on the controlled administration of true HGH in adults. It has been shown to raise energy levels, enhance lean muscle development, decrease body fat, strengthen the heart, improve cholesterol and triglyceride levels and HDL/LDL ratios, fortify bones, smooth out skin wrinkles, sharpen memory, improve sexual function, regenerate damaged tissue, strengthen the immune system as well as improve sleep.
Somatotropin (HGH) from the pituitary gland works by stimulating protein production and synthesis in all tissues of the body. This results in an increase in organ healing and regeneration, which is associated with increase resistance to illness and injury.
In the skin, documentation regarding somatotropin (HGH) supplementation has shown increased collagen synthesis, which makes the skin thicker and smoother. In the bone, these studies showed increased bone density. In the internal organs and sex organs, research showed increased size and markedly improved function.
The immune system, research also showed increased immune system regulation and activity, resulting in fewer infectious illnesses. In adults, HGH is necessary for proper repair and regeneration of injured tissues.
One of the widely reported results of somatotropin (HGH) supplementation is the effect it has on the body's sexual centers. Research shows heightened desire and function in both men and women.
Beginning around the age of 20 years old, our natural production of somatotropin (HGH) begins to decline at the average rate of 14% per decade.
By the age of 40, somatotropin (HGH) production has decreased 30% over our youthful production level, and by the age of 60, by 80% on average. The decline in somatotropin (HGH) correlates with many of the effects of aging including loss of lean body mass (muscle, bone, skin and internal organs), increase in total body fat, thinning and wrinkling of skin, decreased immune function and decreased sexual desire and function.
As a result of the decline in somatotropin (HGH), and because it is the master hormone, other hormones also decline with age, such as Testosterone, Estrogen, Progesterone and DHEA, as well as many other important mood-elevating hormones. Examples of other hormones that also decrease are thyroid and thymus hormones, which can cause menopause in women and andropause in men.



Growth Hormone can:
Restore muscle loss
Increase skin thickness
Reduce total body fat
Improve bone density


People have seen specific improvements from using HGH in:


Skin tightness and moisture
Mental speed and clarity
Enhanced sexual function
Elevated mood and energy levels
Improved aerobic capacity
Significantly greater immune function
Increased wound healing capacity


So, gh therapy sounds great for anti-aging so what's the catch... The catch is keeping your levels in a physicological level and to not exceed youthful levels. As with any hormone, raising levels above youthful normal levels can cause unwanted side effects which are easily noticed like joint problems, the development of carpel tunnel and excess water weight gain. Its simple, just lower your dose if you notice a problem. There is a huge difference between keeping levels well above normal for years for anti-aging and doing a cycle with gh/cjc-1295 that exceed normal levels. Short term higher levels have much less potitential to cause long term problems... Ok, so you are interested in anti-aging with cjc-1295, what dose should you use. When taking into consideration the studies on it's outcome of gh production, as little as 1mg weekly is needed and no more then 2mg a week. This makes CJC-1295 extremely cost effective. Vials could be shared with fellow researchers if only 1mg is used weekly. The lab states after reconsituting cjc-1295 it can be refrozen to be used later but is best used without refreezing, so there may be a slight potiency loss by doing this.


Dosing for Muscle Growth

In the studies 30mcg/kg or 60mcg/kg were used resulting in 2-10 fold in gh production. A 200lb man weighs aprox 90kg... thats 200 divided by 2.2 = 90 so thats 30mcg X 90=2700mcg=2.7mg or 60mcg X 90=5400mcg=5.4mg weekly these doses showed safety... I believe a minimum 2mg a week should be used and no more then 6mg... You decided but I say start low and work your way up to the dose you are comfortable with and remember to keep this short term to reach a specific goal and then go on an anti-aging dose between cycles which would also preserve the muscle growth you build during the cycle.


Stop Wasting Your Money On GH
CJC-1295 Is More Effective
costs much less
less side effects because its your natural gh
doesn't shut you down
Increase Natural GH 10X
unleash
Anti-Aging Benefits
and
The Beast
within you




Dosage and how much do you need?

CJC 3x a day 100mcg each stick
GHRP-6 or 2 3x a day 250mcg each stick

You can combine them in the same insulin needle.

1 bottle of CJC has 2mg in it. So adding 2ml of Bacteriostatic water to it you would have 100mcg every 10iu. 3x a day protocol you would use 300mcg ED so one 2mg bottle would last you roughly 7 days.

1 bottle of GHRP-2 or 6 has 5mg in it. I add 2ml bacteriostatic water and that gives you 250mcg every 10iu. Doing it that way one bottle of 5mg will last you roughly 7 days.

Now if you want good results you want to do 3 shots ED 5 days a week and take the weekends off to avoid overloading the receptors or desensitization.

So for 2 months worth you would need around 6 bottles of each and that would give you 42 days worth of peptide not counting the weekends.

Also my ideal time to inject would be first thing in the morning then eat about 30 minutes later. Then inject 1 hour after drinking your post workout shake assuming you workout after 1pm or so. Last time to inject is right before bed to increase the GH response while asleep.

Shipping:
Vacuum sealed vials preserve the peptide and allow it to be shipped without ice packs. Peptides aren't as fragile as people make them out to be but you certainly want to put them in the fride when you receive them.
Storage: Refrigerate... 1yr + storage in the fridge
Reconstituted:After reconstituting with Bacteriostatic Water use within 3-5 days


I used Dat's protocol about a year ago with CJC & GHRP and I really liked the effects. GHRP-6 really boosted my appetite...I use it all the time now for my bulking programs.



/V


Very interesting read...never knew that much about CJC-1295 & GHRP-6...I just knew you had to pin very often so I stayed away from it..now that I am older I am considering running some to try and see how I react to it..
Do we have sponsors on here that carry these products?

I feel the same way you do big pimp I've been reading a lot about these peptides and it's definitely something I'm missing my routine I have to increase my food intake so it would be ideal to find something that would help me with appetite

rohitabraham741
08-19-2018, 07:03 PM
Just wanted to check if we need to add T4 like we do on a GH Cycle or run by itself

Jayjaytocool
09-01-2018, 08:45 PM
I remeber reading about this years ago before I found juice. It all sounds great expect for the 3 pins a day. I might like to try it. What are the bad sides I assume just like everything there must be something bad.

NewSchool82
09-01-2018, 11:38 PM
This thread is how old now? And not a single person has run this to tell anyone if it works or not.

rohitabraham741
09-16-2018, 01:56 AM
How much Galantamine?

Jmasters
12-18-2020, 12:47 AM
Together is a great combo. Ive seen good fat loss at 3 a day

Cut_Throat
06-18-2021, 04:56 PM
Has anyone had issues with high blood sugar while taking this?

Isaac_7
09-07-2023, 09:04 AM
Appreciate the thread. This has been very helpful in planning my next endeavor.