Mass builder Recommendations

[RedDickies]

I'm looking for recommendations on what you guys consider great mass builders.

I'm preferably looking at mild oils along the same vein as nandrolone that I can run for an extensive length of time. I have and am currently experimenting with deca, however I'm reading some info that suggests in the long term deca (and other nandrolones) can have negative cardiac effects. With that in mind, what do you guys suggest?

[Th-thanks]

For starters, you should be running testosterone as a base. Not sure if you're already doing that as it wasn't clear in your post, so I'll give you some other suggestions. You could run masteron and/or EQ for a lengthy period of time. Both are mild and give good gains in strength and mass, as well as hardening your muscles and making you more vascular. Since you haven't posted your stats, I'll just give you generic numbers - mast @350mg+ week and EQ 600mg+ week. I could probably help you out a bit more if you posted your stats and goals.

[rocky83]

Honestly in my opinion anything that pertains to having too much of anything over long term can cause negative effects. These days just about anything can cause cancer and if you take tylenol daily over an extended period of time it can cause serious negative effects. I personally think Deca, NPP, or any type of nandrolone are the back bone to a great bulking cycle, but that's just me though.

[ProLab]

Deca,Dianabol, high dosages of testosterone, those are my recommendations.

[cowboy up]

^^^ This will bulk you up!!!

[RedDickies]

I'm actually running test with my deca. I'm about 6'7 250lbs on my first blast and I just started some strongman training. With that in mind I want to keep any compound use to something mild or even beneficial to the cardiovascular system. Looking to gain another 100-150 lbs.

[gethuge]

what about GH? u can run it long term. great gains, fat loss and can improve some aspects of ur health. but if u want to stick with AAS then u cant go wrong with test and deca. blast and cruise on those two and u will go far mate.

[KutakRock]

Deca should be run about 750mgs a dude your size with a gram of test a week. Anadrol is the ultimate oral mass builder I jump off with. dbol is good too at leat at 50mgs, I run it at 100. Cycle should be twenty weeks. I kick off with anadrol, about midway through I drop anadrol again for a boost. Most people consider tren a cutting agaent but if you look at the stats tren is very high Androgenically as well as anabolically. Your diet will dictate, but you can cut with it or bulk too. I like some bold Ace to increase appetite. But small doses like 100mg 3 times per week. HGH is great but to get true effects from HGH you will need a healthy dose for a minimum of 6 months, a year is preferable. Any more questions let me know. Remember, diet will dictate size increase!

[bdad]

Test/Deca/Dbol = magic for me, plus I feel great.

[bdad]

I'm actually running test with my deca. I'm about 6'7 250lbs on my first blast and I just started some strongman training. With that in mind I want to keep any compound use to something mild or even beneficial to the cardiovascular system. Looking to gain another 100-150 lbs.

You should be seeing impressive results with the test and deca combo. As for the 150-200 pounds no steroids I've ever used are able to produce these results.

[RedDickies]

Running my test at 750 and deca at 450, again as a first blast. Should I really bump test to a gram and run deca so high?

And I figure I can do the extra weight making sure I eat enough with high test; I don't mind being 14-18% year round.

id looked into hgh but it is far too expensive at this point.

[KutakRock]

You should be seeing impressive results with the test and deca combo. As for the 150-200 pounds no steroids I've ever used are able to produce these results.

Agreed, those are very optimistic results. With proper diet I have put on 40lbs, but a bunch had to come off to get out of those 36s and back into 32s, haha. Dont count out tren for solid weight gain. Yes it will keep you trim at the same time but with the right diet you can put on a lot of decent muscle you can keep bro. Either way, deca, test, drol or dbol will never fail.

[bdad]

Running my test at 750 and deca at 450, again as a first blast. Should I really bump test to a gram and run deca so high?

And I figure I can do the extra weight making sure I eat enough with high test; I don't mind being 14-18% year round.

id looked into hgh but it is far too expensive at this point.

You should be blowing up, how long you been on this cycle?

[RedDickies]

One month now, since june 30th. Gained about 20lbs so far, but I'm attributing that mostly to dbol. I don't think I've seen much in the way of test or deca yet.

[KutakRock]

One month now, since june 30th. Gained about 20lbs so far, but I'm attributing that mostly to dbol. I don't think I've seen much in the way of test or deca yet.

THAts mostly water weight from dbol, test should kick in about two weeks. Some of that maybe deca water, but deca strength takes 5-8 weeks to really notice. patience my man. You will wake up one day be like what the fuck?

[bdad]

[QUOTE=RedDickies;199923]One month now, since june 30th. Gained about 20lbs so far, but I'm attributing that mostly to dbol. I don't think I've seen much in the way of test or deca yet.[/QUOTE

Didn't realize you were taking dbol, sounds like your making impressive gains. How many years have you been cycling?

[RedDickies]

Word. I'm gonna ride this blast out until the end October and cruise for a bit but at this point eq has caught my eye for the next blast.

I figured an extra 100 lbs shouldn't be too hard given my size though, is it really that I reasonable? Obviously I've got to give it time, but I was looking at a 3-5 year timeline.

And bdad, I haven't before this run. I've been lifting since high school, and I've got a ba in ex. Phys. Along with some pt certs but this is my first dive into gear.

[KutakRock]

Word. I'm gonna ride this blast out until the end October and cruise for a bit but at this point eq has caught my eye for the next blast.

I figured an extra 100 lbs shouldn't be too hard given my size though, is it really that I reasonable? Obviously I've got to give it time, but I was looking at a 3-5 year timeline.

100lbs is easy over 3-5 years. Not one cycle

[RedDickies]

Yeah I should have been more specific, I'm talking years here.

[bdad]

100lbs is easy over 3-5 years. Not one cycle

My genetics must suck, I've been doing this for a long time and have not gained any where near 100 lbs.

[bdad]

Word. I'm gonna ride this blast out until the end October and cruise for a bit but at this point eq has caught my eye for the next blast.

I figured an extra 100 lbs shouldn't be too hard given my size though, is it really that I reasonable? Obviously I've got to give it time, but I was looking at a 3-5 year timeline.

And bdad, I haven't before this run. I've been lifting since high school, and I've got a ba in ex. Phys. Along with some pt certs but this is my first dive into gear.

EQ increases my appetite but I don't really care much for it drives my BP crazy. Test/deca or Test/EQ, out of the two Test/deca will yield significantly more gains, granted you will hold more water but who gives a fuck it's a bulk . Test/Tren is awesome but if you have a significant other beware plus I'm just miserable 24/7 on tren, this compound is a off limits to me. Test/deca is my favorite in every aspect, with a little time brother you are going to pleased. How long you plan on running your current cycle?

[RedDickies]

At least 16 weeks possibly 20. And then cruise at 250-300 and maintain weight a bit.

[swolen22]

Test/deca /dbol

[swolen22]

Deca,Dianabol, high dosages of testosterone, those are my recommendations.

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