HGH Dosing Time?

[bigsam]

When do you guys do it?

Morning after waking? Night before bed? or Do you space it out thru the day?

I am looking into getting about 6 months worth and want to use it for the fat loss benefits and thinking of going 5iu ed.

Thoughts?

[Clark Kent]

When do you guys do it?

Morning after waking? Night before bed? or Do you space it out thru the day?

I am looking into getting about 6 months worth and want to use it for the fat loss benefits and thinking of going 5iu ed.

Thoughts?
If you just want it for fat loss have you considered fragment 176-191? I have read this can be effective for the fat loss benefit without the expense of all out HGH if fat loss is all your going for.

[bigsam]

If you just want it for fat loss have you considered fragment 176-191? I have read this can be effective for the fat loss benefit without the expense of all out HGH if fat loss is all your going for.


That is good to know I will start researching it.

I would also like some of the Anti-Aging benefits of the GH as well hell what can it hurt lol.

[animal87]

I would take it first thing soon as you wake up, wait 45min then eat breakfast. Then take the second half of the dose sometime in the afternoon or 45min. after your postworkout meal. I wouldnt take it right before bed, you will get your natural pulse then when you sleep.

I havent took it much on its own. I take it with peptides.

[muscleMonkey]

5 ius a day is a great start. 2ius in the morning and 3 ius IM pre workout.

[bigsam]

I would take it first thing soon as you wake up, wait 45min then eat breakfast. Then take the second half of the dose sometime in the afternoon or 45min. after your postworkout meal. I wouldnt take it right before bed, you will get your natural pulse then when you sleep.

I havent took it much on its own. I take it with peptides.


5 ius a day is a great start. 2ius in the morning and 3 ius IM pre workout.


Ok so space the dosage out during the day.

Thanks for the info guys.

[bigsam]

5 ius a day is a great start. 2ius in the morning and 3 ius IM pre workout.

So I take it IM? I thought I could do it Sub Q?

Is there any difference?

[enrod]

May want to start lower than 5iu and see how you react. I found morning shots to make me way too tired to get through the day, so I pin before bed. Feel much better, also with supplementing vitamin B helps. I did 2iu for the first month and am tapering up per month from there. I couldn't imagine if I started off the rip at 5iu, I'd be in a coma.

I always go subQ, can't beat it bro.

[Dbolish]

generics or pharm? if 4iu or lower id do it all pre workout subq. above 4iu id split am/pm or am/preworkout depending what time you train

[BigDickPlaya]

If its generics I'd say 5iu is a good start .. 2iu subq upon waking and 3iu IM preworkout about an hour before workout.. I actually inject IM preworkout in the muscle group being worked .. example for chest.. I'd put 1.5iu in each pec roughly an hour before training

[REDRUM]

I inject 3x a day, GH has.a half life of about 8 hrs give or take and.reaches its peak within about 3hrs. I.also inject IM not sub-q, the route of administration effects the amount of GH that is going to be active in your body. The highest concentration would be injecting IV 100% of the dose would be utilized. After that IM injections would be.roughly 75-85% and last sub-q would be.roughly 65-75%. v4 are based upon the time it takes for the growth hormone to get into the bloodstream naturally intravenous will D directly into the bloodstream intramuscular would be the second fastest and last would be subcutaneous and wow its taking its time getting into the bloodstream it breaks down in the area you injected into losing some of the potency that the injection you just gave yourself because of either the muscle tissue or the fatty tissue it has to break down in order to get into the bloodstream and the fatty tissue takes the longest therefore that's why you get the least amount out of all three ways of injecting growth hormone.

I inject myself 3 times a day in the morning when I wake up, mid afternoon. And about 2 or 3 hours before I go to sleep so that by the time that the growth hormone has hit its peak plasma levels it is also spiking with the natural GH my body is producing during phase of sleep. GH doesn't interrupt natural production like testosterone interrupts natural production in the body. So if you're looking to use 5iu, I would break it down into 2iu in the morning and afternoon and the last IU before bed. even though the dose release during the REM stage is low its an added boost none the less.

[Bigs251]

^^right on the money and if you do fasted cardio get up shoot 2iu amd do your fasted cardio amd you will see some great fat loss

[juicyyy91]

When do you guys do it?

Morning after waking? Night before bed? or Do you space it out thru the day?

I am looking into getting about 6 months worth and want to use it for the fat loss benefits and thinking of going 5iu ed.

Thoughts?
I have always done it as soon as I woke up an hour before food, and post workout

[benoit23]

Morning and then again mid afternoon here once you get around the 3iu mark id start splitting, other than that first thing in the am

Here is a GREAT article on HGH dosing and timing: (sorry for the long post)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)


by Leigh Penman

So, first of all, why is Growth Hormone such an attractive drug to bodybuilders?
“HGH (and the IGF-1 that is a result of its use) is the only substance that can actually initiate hyperplasia. While the use of anabolic steroids can cause hypertrophy (the enlargement of existing muscle cells), steroids do not offer the ability to recruit and mature more muscle cells. HGH can. HGH also increases protein synthesis, which can be responsible for hypertrophy.

“You also have to understand that normally, after puberty, the body stops growing new muscle cells. The number of muscle cells is genetically fixed for the rest of the life span, and the most that can happen is to increase the size of these cells through weight training or steroids. However, by using HGH the body can actually grow new muscle cells. This allows the body to reverse genetic dispositions and achieve a desired muscle density.”

For someone new to its use, what is a safe and effective starter dose?

“For gaining lean muscle and substantially improving body composition a dose of 4-8 i.u.’s a day will be necessary. Most people will respond very well at a dose of 4-5 i.u.’s per day. For maximum benefit in this regard, the addition of Testosterone, Insulin, and low dose T3 would be something to seriously consider.

“As a general rule the best way to start an HGH program is to start with a low dose and ease the administration into the higher doses. This will avoid, or at least minimize, many of the common side effects of HGH such as bloating, joint pain and swelling. Most people can tolerate approximately 2 i.u.’s with few side effects, so that would be the recommended starting dose. A scheduled program would look like this:

Week 1-4: HGH 2i.u.’s one injection

Week 5: HGH 2.5 i.u.’s one injection

Week 6: HGH 3 i.u.’s split into two injections of 1.5 i.u.’s each

Week 7: HGH 3.5 i.u.’s split into two injections of 1.75 i.u’s each

If at any point in this progression unbearable bloating or joint pain becomes an issue, the dose must be reduced by 25% and held at a lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the side effects subside, progression may resume back up towards desired level. If the side effects remain, the dose must be reduced again and held at a lower level for two weeks before beginning upward progression. This method will keep the HGH experience a good one with minimal side effects.”

HGH is not administered like standard injectables, what is the injection procedure?

“HGH is dispensed in the form of a lyophilized powder. Any other form advertised is NOT true HGH. The only way to administer true HGH is by a sub-q or intramuscular injection.

“HGH is somewhat fragile by nature, and it needs to be protected from light and heat. HGH should be stored between 36 and 46 degrees Fahrenheit at all times both before and after its reconstitution. All brands of HGH should be refrigerated after being reconstituted, and all brands should be protected from light at all times.”

Is there a best time of day for administration?

“The body produces HGH in a continuous pulsatile fashion throughout the day with the highest pulses occurring approximately 2-3 hours after going to bed and falling into deep sleep. Injectable HGH is completely absorbed and activates within approximately 3 hours. The strategy with respect to timing depends somewhat on age and other elements of the cycle. There is no single best strategy…it depends a lot on your individual situation.”

Can you give us some examples?

“For those in their late 20’s to early 50’s, there is a chance that the endogenous production of HGH is still at a reasonable level. The best time to take an injection in this case would be early morning…after your body’s own release of HGH in the night. If you get up to go to the bathroom in the early morning, this is probably the perfect time to take a couple of units of HGH. The second best time would be first thing in the morning when you wake up.

“If you are splitting your doses, it is good to take them when your cortisol levels are at a peak, which is when you wake up and in the early afternoon. Cortisol is very catabolic by nature and a well-timed HGH injection can go a long way to blunting this effect.

“Yet another strategy should be considered if one is using insulin with HGH. Insulin should be used immediately post work out. HGH and insulin do some great things together – they shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary way to each other – and the combination of HGH and insulin create the best environment for IGF-1 production. If one is using insulin immediately post workout, this would be a recommended time to take a number of units of HGH.”

It has been claimed that lean body mass gains and fat loss are achieved with GH without and change being made to the diet, care to comment on this?

“A high protein diet is often recommended to help efforts to build muscle and lose fat. Adequate protein is required for building muscle and other tissues. Various sources advise people to consume anywhere from 0.6 to 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day.”

How long does it take for results to kick in?

“It should be noted that for the vast majority of HGH users, results are not rapid and visible in nature. If your idea of using HGH is to get ripped in a few weeks , gaining 20lbs of muscle in a matter of a month or two, or being miraculously healed in a matter of a few injections…you are likely to be in for a BIG disappointment. HGH does some pretty incredible things, but it HAS to be viewed as a long term endeavor. A reasonable length HGH cycle would be 20-30 weeks in length. While you will always be able to find one or two individuals who will make great strides in a short amount of time, the majority need to be dedicated to its use for the long haul for it to be a worthy venture.”

What effect does it have on the healing of damaged tissue that cannot be achieved by regular anabolics and why is this effect so profound?

“HGH has the ability to increase lean body mass, shorten a bodybuilder’s recovery time between workouts, and improve overall athletic performance. HGH helps strengthen ligaments and joints, and promotes faster healing of damaged tissue. In addition, HGH can increase the body’s capability for protein synthesis and for proper absorption of essential immune defensive molecules into the damaged site.”

Some people use HGH to combat adrenal fatigue, could it also alleviate the symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome?

“Adrenal fatigue is a term applied to a collection of non specific symptoms such as body aches, fatigue, nervousness, sleep disturbances and digestive problems. The term often shows up in popular health books and on alternative medicine web sites, but it isn’t accepted medical diagnosis.

“The adrenal glands produce a variety of hormones that are essential to life. The medical term ‘adrenal insufficiency’, or Addison’s disease, refers to inadequate production of one or more of these hormones as a result of an underlying disease. Signs and symptoms of adrenal insufficiency include fatigue, body aches, unexplained weight loss, low blood pressure, light headedness and loss of body hair. Proponents of the adrenal fatigue diagnosis claim this is a mild form of adrenal insufficiency caused by chronic stress. The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can’t produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren’t sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function – but the body can. The latest research demonstrates that adrenal fatigue is connected to the growth hormone loop in a distinct way, since taking HGH releasers (consistently over many months) has helped to improve energy levels.”

Finally, what is the best liquid to use when it comes to the reconstitution of HGH?

“Bacteriostatic Water (BW), Sterile Water or even liquid vitamin B12 can be used for reconstitution. What we choose to reconstitute it with should depend on how rapidly we use the GH. Bacteriostatic Water is basically sterile water with 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol added, and this alcohol keeps anything from growing in the water, thus making it safe for injection for the longest period of time…up to three weeks. For the common use for bodybuilding (2-5 i.u.’s a day) and the more commonly used vial size (10 i.u.’s) it isn’t really critical which of the afore mentioned diluents are used…the vial will be used up long before bacteria or anything begins to grow in our reconstituted HGH.”

[swolen22]

If you just want it for fat loss have you considered fragment 176-191? I have read this can be effective for the fat loss benefit without the expense of all out HGH if fat loss is all your going for.

I have used this frag 176-191 for multiple months consecutively and got very little fat loss results.

Hgh would be worth the extra expense.

Also for me, ghrp-6 was very effective for fat loss and increasing my appetite.

[swolen22]

If you just want it for fat loss have you considered fragment 176-191? I have read this can be effective for the fat loss benefit without the expense of all out HGH if fat loss is all your going for.

I have used this frag 176-191 for multiple months consecutively and got very little fat loss results.

Hgh would be worth the extra expense.

Also for me, ghrp-6 was very effective for fat loss and increasing my appetite.

[Tazzzz]

Good read Benoit. The only thing I didn't see was protocol for the 50+ group. I've read several articles on running GH for the 50+ crowd and there are 2 schools of thought. 1st, if your using for anti-aging benefits only, they say to inject just before bed. This is suppose to mimic the bodies own natural production time during REM sleep. For those looking to build muscle as well as loose fat and enjoy all the additional anti-aging benefite, the protocol of twice a day---1st thing AM & again in late afternoon--will be most beneficial.Thanks again for the excellent read.