(Ora-Sweet) The Simple way to turn your oral raws into liquids!!!

[Clark Kent]

Ora-sweet and Ora-plus
Super easy, Super cheap and will help you save a shit ton of money!

http://www.stobec.com/documents/data/8196.pdf

[riverbear]

Where can you get that

[studmuffin]

How much is it?It says 50/50 ratio,what would you use to suspend it?

[Clark Kent]

Where can you get that
Amazon, Ebay etc... just do a google search!

[Clark Kent]

How much is it?It says 50/50 ratio,what would you use to suspend it?
50/50 ratio to water and it will still hold its stability. What this means is that basically you can double the amount of ora sweet you purchase by cutting it with water. I usually cut it 75/25 it tastes awful but who cares so do research chems! costs about $35.00 for a pint.

[jluc]

50/50 ratio to water and it will still hold its stability. What this means is that basically you can double the amount of ora sweet you purchase by cutting it with water. I usually cut it 75/25 it tastes awful but who cares so do research chems! costs about $35.00 for a pint.
75water? or 75orasweet lol
i posted on the other page about making a 30ml vial

Lets say you wanted to make 40mg/mL... and you did a 50mL bottle.. whats the measurements?

[studmuffin]

Thanks Clark!I have been wanting to make my own and this is perfect timing.

[Clark Kent]

75water? or 75orasweet lol
i posted on the other page about making a 30ml vial

Lets say you wanted to make 40mg/mL... and you did a 50mL bottle.. whats the measurements?

75 ORA anything over 50% something else ora will loose its stability and Distilled water not tap lol

[wook]

CK, Have you tried this yet?

[Clark Kent]

CK, Have you tried this yet?
yes it works just fine brother! you can do it with any oral raw

[suraonyx23]

Yep sources have been using this for years. I love it

[Clark Kent]

Bump

[Dunstone]

Thanks Clarke, great info just ordered Ora sweet to try this.....

[Clark Kent]

Thanks Clarke, great info just ordered Ora sweet to try this.....

Anytime Brother!

[PAiN]

Great post. Stickied!

[Dionysus]

Whats the taste like?

[usmctrainer]

sooooo i went to this hospital pharmacy and thought to myself, hey why not ask if they have it? this was a couple years ago, they must of looked at this jacked jarhead asking for orasweet and i was almost scarred by the lead pharmacists response. she got in my face asking what do i plan to make with it. i said uhhh i must be looking for something else goodbye... got the fuck outa there. wont do that again. so some advice... dont go to hospital pharmacies if u look really jacked asking for that shit.

[Dunstone]

sooooo i went to this hospital pharmacy and thought to myself, hey why not ask if they have it? this was a couple years ago, they must of looked at this jacked jarhead asking for orasweet and i was almost scarred by the lead pharmacists response. she got in my face asking what do i plan to make with it. i said uhhh i must be looking for something else goodbye... got the fuck outa there. wont do that again. so some advice... dont go to hospital pharmacies if u look really jacked asking for that shit.


just ordered mine through a VET supplier in Aus, Amazon was three times the cost of the product to ship....

[Clark Kent]

Whats the taste like?

Its not pleasant but it is sweet!

[Dunstone]

Can't be as bad as an suspension in oil!

[Dunstone]

Hey Clark did you know what the shelf life would be, it's slightly acidic so a single mix at a time or could it be batched?

[Clark Kent]

I have some dmaa I mixed up over 6 months ago and still gtg! I always give it a shake but still seems to be dosed accurately. I would feel comfortable with saying 6-12 months. Maybe longer in the right environment. I cant say for sure but im pretty certain it is what all the UG labs are using!

[Clark Kent]

Hey Clark did you know what the shelf life would be, it's slightly acidic so a single mix at a time or could it be batched?

Im going to make a decent sized batch of anavar/winstrol blend @ 75/50 for myself and a few friends. Im kinda pumped for it!

[Freedom]

Ck,

So no ora plus for you in your formula?

I'm reading Ora sweet is the vehicle and Ora plus is the suspension.

Which oral compounds have you used?

What is the highest doses you have suspended for each?

Thanks

[Freedom]

Hey Clark did you know what the shelf life would be, it's slightly acidic so a single mix at a time or could it be batched?

It says 60 days for the formula examples shown in the link provided by the OP. Those examples are using both Ora sweet and Ora plus.

[enrod]

Freedom, those are for a particular compound. Also, you read that ora plus and ora sweet are used together on their advertising. Of course they want you to buy both, but ora sweet suspends the raws as well.

[1tuffcookie]

Perfect timing for this post guys. I just tried mixing a batch of anavar with Everclear... Would not recommend you do it that way. Hey Clark can you describe the actual process used to suspend the raw powder with the ora sweet. Do you have to heat it up or what. Can you describe the process for us newbies Please.

[Freedom]

Freedom, those are for a particular compound. Also, you read that ora plus and ora sweet are used together on their advertising. Of course they want you to buy both, but ora sweet suspends the raws as well.

Thanks. Still researching.

I guess the sweet version has flavoring and this is the only difference?



Ingredient information:

Ora-Plus®, Ora-Sweet® and Ora-Sweet SF® (Paddock Laboratories http://www.paddocklabs.com)


Ora-Plus®, Ora-Sweet® and Ora-Sweet SF® are commercially manufactured products which have been used in many stability studies published in North America.


Ora-Plus® contains: purified water, microcrystalline cellulose, carboxymethylcellulose sodium, xanthan gum, flavouring, citric acid, sodium phosphate, simethicone, methylparaben, and potassium sorbate.


Ora-Sweet® contains: purified water, sucrose, glycerin, sorbitol, flavouring, citric acid, sodium phosphate, methylparaben and potassium sorbate.


Ora-Sweet SF® contains: purified water, glycerin, sorbitol, sodium saccharin, xanthan gum, flavouring, citric acid, sodium citrate, methylparaben, propylparaben, potassium sorbate.

[enrod]

I believe so, that ora sweet just has flavoring to it. I've been looking into this a bit lately. I wonder if adding any flavorings to it would work.

[miggymig]

Gotta give it a try

[1tuffcookie]

OK just mixed up a batch of cialis with a 50/50 mix of orasweet and distilled water. I placed the raws and liquid into a squirt bottle and shook vigorously and WALLA!!! mixed perfectly and suspended. Put into dropper vials and am GTG.... Thanks Clark for the info...

[Clark Kent]

OK just mixed up a batch of cialis with a 50/50 mix of orasweet and distilled water. I placed the raws and liquid into a squirt bottle and shook vigorously and WALLA!!! mixed perfectly and suspended. Put into dropper vials and am GTG.... Thanks Clark for the info...

Im glad it worked out for you brother. I just read this post. I was always under the impression that ora sweet was ora plus with sweetness added. I have used it this way and it has worked out very well for me.

[Clark Kent]

General Directions For Compounding ORA-SWEET*/ORA-PLUS Suspensions
ORA-SWEET and ORA-PLUS should be combined in a 50/50 ratio to achieve optimal formulation.


This is what is recomended

[Freedom]

Anyone ever try humco brand? Less expensive.

What about a flavoring syrup in the mix in addition to the Ora sweet product flavoring?

[Clark Kent]

Anyone ever try humco brand? Less expensive.

What about a flavoring syrup in the mix in addition to the Ora sweet product flavoring?

Enrod I believe is using flavoring agent you may want to ask him.

[enrod]

Anyone ever try humco brand? Less expensive.

What about a flavoring syrup in the mix in addition to the Ora sweet product flavoring?

Like Clark said, I'm going to give this a try. My plan is to dilute the ora-plus, 50/50, I'm going to use the other 50% for distilled water, flavoring syrup, and dye (to tell my compounds apart). Probably going to do this in a little bit, still need to get my raws on deck ;)

[Mungus]

Hey Clark did you know what the shelf life would be, it's slightly acidic so a single mix at a time or could it be batched?


I have some dmaa I mixed up over 6 months ago and still gtg! I always give it a shake but still seems to be dosed accurately. I would feel comfortable with saying 6-12 months. Maybe longer in the right environment. I cant say for sure but im pretty certain it is what all the UG labs are using!

Be aware that on the product information leaflet (PDF in the OP) all the compound examples it gives say expiration 60 days. I'd say this has more to do with the Ora Sweet than the compound itself. As usual the product is no doubt good well beyond that but worth a thought.

[HebenSchwere]

OK just mixed up a batch of cialis with a 50/50 mix of orasweet and distilled water. I placed the raws and liquid into a squirt bottle and shook vigorously and WALLA!!! mixed perfectly and suspended. Put into dropper vials and am GTG.... Thanks Clark for the info...

Ok brothers, for this specific compound, cialis, many people (including myself) experience horrible indigestion/acid reflux when using the cialis suspensions purchased from research labs. I'm wondering if its the cialis or if ora sweet is what they are using to suspend, is it the ora sweet. BTW, I was told on another board by someone who I consider a reliable source, that glycerin would be a good vehicle to suspend cialis and I also noticed that glycerin is an ingredient in ora sweet. Just found that kinda odd and coincidental. Anyone have any thoughts or insight into these issue? Thanks brothers, and be safe!

[ironjulius]

Ok brothers, for this specific compound, cialis, many people (including myself) experience horrible indigestion/acid reflux when using the cialis suspensions purchased from research labs. I'm wondering if its the cialis or if ora sweet is what they are using to suspend, is it the ora sweet. BTW, I was told on another board by someone who I consider a reliable source, that glycerin would be a good vehicle to suspend cialis and I also noticed that glycerin is an ingredient in ora sweet. Just found that kinda odd and coincidental. Anyone have any thoughts or insight into these issue? Thanks brothers, and be safe!
its probably both but i know cialis in pill form gives me some indigestion

[enrod]

Ok brothers, for this specific compound, cialis, many people (including myself) experience horrible indigestion/acid reflux when using the cialis suspensions purchased from research labs. I'm wondering if its the cialis or if ora sweet is what they are using to suspend, is it the ora sweet. BTW, I was told on another board by someone who I consider a reliable source, that glycerin would be a good vehicle to suspend cialis and I also noticed that glycerin is an ingredient in ora sweet. Just found that kinda odd and coincidental. Anyone have any thoughts or insight into these issue? Thanks brothers, and be safe!

I'm pretty certain research labs don't use ora products for suspension, usually they are alcohol based.

[Dunstone]

Update, just received my ora sweet.... Straight into dBol mix... 2.5g of dbol 10ml of distilled water and 40ml of ora sweet with a drop of blue food dye quick shake and bam suspended... Too easy

tastes like cough mixture but better than oil.

[crazylegs80]

Like Clark said, I'm going to give this a try. My plan is to dilute the ora-plus, 50/50, I'm going to use the other 50% for distilled water, flavoring syrup, and dye (to tell my compounds apart). Probably going to do this in a little bit, still need to get my raws on deck ;)

Enrod, do you mind me asking what flavoring syrup you use? I'm about to mix up my first batch of anavar and Ill be using Humco Flavor Plus as my suspending vehicle, no idea what it'll taste like so I wanted to have some flavoring syrup on hand just in case. Also, do you just add to taste after it's mixed? Thanks in advance bro

[enrod]

Enrod, do you mind me asking what flavoring syrup you use? I'm about to mix up my first batch of anavar and Ill be using Humco Flavor Plus as my suspending vehicle, no idea what it'll taste like so I wanted to have some flavoring syrup on hand just in case. Also, do you just add to taste after it's mixed? Thanks in advance bro

Yeah no problem man. I just bought some liquid flavorings on Amazon, the highest rated seller. It's called LorAnn oils, I picked up a couple watermelon, blueberry, and raspberry. I put that in after I mix up my Ora-plus and powders. I also put a little food coloring in so I can tell them apart.

[crazylegs80]

Yeah no problem man. I just bought some liquid flavorings on Amazon, the highest rated seller. It's called LorAnn oils, I picked up a couple watermelon, blueberry, and raspberry. I put that in after I mix up my Ora-plus and powders. I also put a little food coloring in so I can tell them apart.

Awesome, thank you very much.

[sackbird]

Yeah no problem man. I just bought some liquid flavorings on Amazon, the highest rated seller. It's called LorAnn oils, I picked up a couple watermelon, blueberry, and raspberry. I put that in after I mix up my Ora-plus and powders. I also put a little food coloring in so I can tell them apart.

Just ordered some cotton candy lorann oil. Does it mask the doo-doo flavor?

[enrod]

Just ordered some cotton candy lorann oil. Does it mask the doo-doo flavor?

Yeah it's better than research meds that's for damn sure

[sackbird]

Thank you, this should be fun...

[Layddually]

I use tiny amount of grain alcohol and the rest glycerin. Taste is good.

[enrod]

I use tiny amount of grain alcohol and the rest glycerin. Taste is good.

I'd like to try glycerine. The alcohol and Ora don't seem to mix real well

[Layddually]

Glycerin works great and it is sweet. Only use enough alcohol to make raws liquid the rest glycerin it will be thick. It does seperated but it takes a while shake it and your good.

[enrod]

Glycerin works great and it is sweet. Only use enough alcohol to make raws liquid the rest glycerin it will be thick. It does seperated but it takes a while shake it and your good.

There's got to be an easier solution than alcohol. I don't care for the taste of grain alcohol at all, starting to taste like some research meds.

[2stones]

Best stuff I have used.

there is a generic brand that is cheaper and also does a great job.

[Dunstone]

Best stuff I have used.

there is a generic brand that is cheaper and also does a great job.


I have to to agree with, what was the generic brand and where did you source if thank ok?

[Clark Kent]

Ok brothers, for this specific compound, cialis, many people (including myself) experience horrible indigestion/acid reflux when using the cialis suspensions purchased from research labs. I'm wondering if its the cialis or if ora sweet is what they are using to suspend, is it the ora sweet. BTW, I was told on another board by someone who I consider a reliable source, that glycerin would be a good vehicle to suspend cialis and I also noticed that glycerin is an ingredient in ora sweet. Just found that kinda odd and coincidental. Anyone have any thoughts or insight into these issue? Thanks brothers, and be safe!

Order from blue sky! Shit is smooth, strong, cheap and no sides!

[Layddually]

Ok brothers, for this specific compound, cialis, many people (including myself) experience horrible indigestion/acid reflux when using the cialis suspensions purchased from research labs. I'm wondering if its the cialis or if ora sweet is what they are using to suspend, is it the ora sweet. BTW, I was told on another board by someone who I consider a reliable source, that glycerin would be a good vehicle to suspend cialis and I also noticed that glycerin is an ingredient in ora sweet. Just found that kinda odd and coincidental. Anyone have any thoughts or insight into these issue? Thanks brothers, and be safe!


I get the indigestion even with pharma cialis.

[2stones]

Great stuff use it for all my orals.

[leakydelts]

Any need for PEG with some of the more stubborn powders (stano, anavar)? Thinking of giving this a go with some micronized stanozolol

[enrod]

Any need for PEG with some of the more stubborn powders (stano, anavar)? Thinking of giving this a go with some micronized stanozolol

I've never tried it with PEG, but stanz and var seem to be okay if you shake them up before you draw out an oral syringe cc. It doesn't suspend perfectly, you will see the powder floating, but there is no more convenient way that I've found yet. Love to hear a better way honestly.


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[jayvc]

Anyone have any experience with mixing ora and anavar?

Do you just mix the raw powder with 50/50 (sterile water and ora) plus whatever dose you want? or is there a max. would you need to heat it up?

so hypothetically I could take 2g var + 100ml (50 water/50ora) and I would have 20mg/ml solution?

[DRHULK]

Clark, sorry to bother you but i need help, if can help me it will be great, i have 30g of cialis powder and i want to turn it into 30ml what amount of ora-sweet and ora-plus should i use? and if any water? thank u very much , i really appreciate your help.. God Bless!!!!!

[masters]

Would that be the same for mixing T3 or T4 raws?

So do you replace grain alch, or peg 300 for example with " ora sweet"?

it can suspend any powder?

[Gymthug26]

Is it better to run oral liquid, one would think so being it dosent have to be broken down as much

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[masters]

Bump this

[korsaire]

i have some raw powder that i have for more than 6 or 7 year will try to do something with that ora-sweet i have some viagra cialis proviron and letro will see if they still good .... the cialis i know is still good

[Catabolic]

Just to be clear i would just use ONLY orasweet 75ora/25water instead of peg300, peg600, or grain alcohol? Would this work with any oral powder? I want to be sure before ordering because everywhere ive read says peg300, 600, and everclear. Thanks for the help bro.

[Mouthbreather1982]

Can I use just the IRS sweet and oraplus mixed?
I want to use tbol. How many mg can it hold per Ml?

[littlefrank]

yes it works just fine brother! you can do it with any oral raw

Does this make a suspension? I'm assuming not a solution

[MS906]

just ordered mine through a VET supplier in Aus, Amazon was three times the cost of the product to ship....

What vet supplier ??

[MS906]

Will this work with every oral ?
Halo, proviron, aromasin, var, drol, winny, tbol, dbol, cialis, thiazide
It would be great if someone can point out what are some of the concentration I will be able to make with this

[Plate Smacker]

I believe you need to account for powder displacement, otherwise your solution will be underdosed.
Mixing 1 gram of powder with 100ml will not yield 10mg/ml. This is because after adding 100ml of fluid, the powder will displace the fluid bringing total fluid level above 100ml.
Lets say I need to make 30ml of an oral solution that is 5mg/ml. So basically 30 doses @ 5mg. 30x5=150mg total powder needed.
Now, let's say I have a beaker with the 150mg powder in it. I then add the 30ml of carriers. Well, now I have a liquid that is above the 30ml mark, because of the displacement of powder. This would mess up our original mg/ml.
Now a simple solution is to put powder in small beaker, then fill with some suspension liquid, stir a little bit, add some more, stir a little more, then pour suspension liquid until it reaches the 30ml mark.
A good small beaker with accurate markings, could work.

"Beaker Accuracy Check": If you don't trust the accuracy of the beaker, you can fill a 30ml syringe with fluid and administer to beaker varying amounts to see if it corresponds/correlates to the same amount on beaker.

Syringe Acting as Graduated Cylinder and Shaker:
Another accurate method would be to get a 30ml or 60ml syringe, put small needle on end of syringe. We are merely just capping off the syringe so that no fluid will come out of the syringe when we add liquid (backfill) the syringe. For safety, of course, you would want to leave the cap on the needle. Remove plunger from syringe, hold syringe upright, and add some suspension liquid into syringe, and add all 150mg of powder. Now, we need to put the plunger back into the syringe so we can shake the syringe to mix. You would put plunger in syringe just a little to seal, then turn syringe over, so the air is at the needle end. Then push plunger into syringe. (The problem here is that you can still lose some fluid through the needle, that may have remained in the hub of the needle. Very negligible amount, but something to consider) Now, shake syringe, mixing powder and suspension liquid in syringe, then remove plunger and fill with more suspension fluid until it reaches 30ml mark, shake some more, and finally check to ensure that the total liquid is still at the 30ml mark.

Displacement per dose:
You could also find displacement per dose per ml by putting 1ml suspension fluid in syringe, add 5mg powder, mix, and see where the fluid mixture is at. Then note the difference. There really is no reason to do this. Maybe for your own records when using the same raw to make varying mixtures.

Very accurate measuring balances/scale devices are pretty pricey. Small measurements like this require that you follow special protocol to ensure accuracy. Actually, with all these measurements, a more expensive and accurate scale with plastic or glass hood/cover would be nice.

Correct me if wrong.

[Plate Smacker]

Made 30ml cialis @10mg/ml using syringe for measuring and shaking. Used Ora-Plus.
I think some compounds may require a solvent. Cialis is a fine sticky powder and can clump easily. I can see some very very small clumps even the next day. Placed in hot water bath to warm mixture, shook more for about 5 minutes, still very small clumps.
I don't think I would suspend something like prami in this.
I will most likely use grain alcohol or search for a pharmaceutical solvent.
The process was remove stopper, place plug in needle end of syringe. I cut an unused earplug, rolled the small piece between my fingers, and placed it in the small hole to plug.
I then added around 12ml distilled water to syringe, then 300mg powder, swirled it around, then filled to 30ml line.
I put finger over needle end hole, and put plunger back in but did not push it in, just put the plunger in until it seated in syringe. I then flipped it over with plugged needle end up so air would go to top. I then removed plug, then pushed plunger to 50ml line to leave some space for shaking. I then just put my finger over needle end hole, and shook vigorously for a while. Once mixed, squirted into bottle. There was a very small amount stuck to stopper, so drew in a couple drops of distilled water, shook, squirted into bottle.
Now, I have a milligram scale with plastic hood. I also have some micro milligram spoons I got off amazon. I have one that measured 10mg out of 5 measurement tests. I could just use that. However, suspension is much more convenient.

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[Plate Smacker]

Make sure you research the solubility of the substance you wish to suspend. Do not use brand names when researching, but actual drug name. For Cialis, use Tadalafil
Example: Google search Tadalafil Solubility
You will be presented with various things, but you are looking for studies, .pdf's, and patents.

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Within patents are basically blueprints of the inventions. You have to scroll through repetitive info, to get to the good stuff. Read through this patent and notice the structure of the patent. You get to a "Detailed" portion further down.
WO21422797A1 - Pharmaceutical composition comprising a solid dispersion of tadalafil
- Google Patents (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2014202797A1/en)


Some are pdf's
This one has a ton of info on Tadalafil.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/EPAR_-_Scientific_Discussion/human/000436/WC500026314.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwir9pCurL3ZAhULCKwKHTYFBjU4ChAWMAF6BAgGE AE&usg=AOvVaw1IQixqkJPmUxKyrUWuF26x

Learn as much as you can about the substance, and you will also learn advanced methods of preparation and exact equipment used.

Also search for info on the FDA and EMEA home sites.

[Skippy]

Made 30ml cialis @10mg/ml using syringe for measuring and shaking. Used Ora-Plus.
I think some compounds may require a solvent. Cialis is a fine sticky powder and can clump easily. I can see some very very small clumps even the next day. Placed in hot water bath to warm mixture, shook more for about 5 minutes, still very small clumps.
I don't think I would suspend something like prami in this.
I will most likely use grain alcohol or search for a pharmaceutical solvent.
The process was remove stopper, place plug in needle end of syringe. I cut an unused earplug, rolled the small piece between my fingers, and placed it in the small hole to plug.
I then added around 12ml distilled water to syringe, then 300mg powder, swirled it around, then filled to 30ml line.
I put finger over needle end hole, and put plunger back in but did not push it in, just put the plunger in until it seated in syringe. I then flipped it over with plugged needle end up so air would go to top. I then removed plug, then pushed plunger to 50ml line to leave some space for shaking. I then just put my finger over needle end hole, and shook vigorously for a while. Once mixed, squirted into bottle. There was a very small amount stuck to stopper, so drew in a couple drops of distilled water, shook, squirted into bottle.
Now, I have a milligram scale with plastic hood. I also have some micro milligram spoons I got off amazon. I have one that measured 10mg out of 5 measurement tests. I could just use that. However, suspension is much more convenient.

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Shit I was wanting to try the Ora sweet with prami till I read this. Did you mix any Prami ? Im trying not to use alcohol just wondering what you used.

[Scottyhash77]

Yes,
I use Humco.
Much easier to source and better pricing.

[Caustic Charm]

Yes,
I use Humco.
Much easier to source and better pricing.

I'm doing the same next week. Humco Flavor Blend. All in one.

[btrep]

link doesnt work,whats the compound called?

[btrep]

Cherry Syrup, 16 oz., Syrup Vehicle for Oral SolutionCherry Syrup, 16 oz., Syrup Vehicle for Oral Solutionis this corret?

[rohitabraham741]

The page is down

[JTH]

Shit I was wanting to try the Ora sweet with prami till I read this. Did you mix any Prami ? Im trying not to use alcohol just wondering what you used.

Did you find any pharma solvent to address the clumping issue?

[balin]

Go to the manufactures web page to see about mixing or check out this link.
https://brotherhoodofpain.com/home-brew-chemistry/55436-oral-suspension.html

[JTH]

Go to the manufactures web page to see about mixing or check out this link.
https://brotherhoodofpain.com/home-brew-chemistry/55436-oral-suspension.html

thank you Balin

[anomily88]

Anyone have a clue on how to make tren with liquid anyone tried it I see oral tren alot but in pill form

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[THX]

Anyone have a clue on how to make tren with liquid anyone tried it I see oral tren alot but in pill form

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Methyltrienolone?
Use PEG-300.

[anomily88]

Methyltrienolone?
Use PEG-300.Yes

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[Plate Smacker]

Ora-Plus is the base ingredient.
It contains ingredients Ora-Sweet does not.
Ora-Plus ingredients that serve as functions, that Ora-Sweet does not:
simethicone: antifoaming agent
microcrystalline cellulose: emulsifier
carboxymethylcellulose sodium: emulsifier and thickener
xanthan gum:
thickening agent and stabilizer to prevent ingredients from separating

Ora-Sweet is merely something that can be used in order to meet 50/50 requirement and to add flavor.

I am contacting the company regarding use of alcohol as It's listed in their data as something that can be used for the 50/50 mixture.

[Plate Smacker]

Shit I was wanting to try the Ora sweet with prami till I read this. Did you mix any Prami ? Im trying not to use alcohol just wondering what you used.

Use distilled water for prami. You need a mg scale with plastic hood. I mix 30mg in 30ml distilled water using Class A graduated cylinder. No need for displacement with such small amount. BE CAREFUL. DO NOT SCREW UP MEASUREMENT.
Just know studies have been done and one patient took 12mg of Prami. DON'T TRY THAT. I am merely showing that you won't die from a small microgram deviation by not accounting for displacement of such small amount.

[Oldskool]

Use distilled water for prami. You need a mg scale with plastic hood. I mix 30mg in 30ml distilled water using Class A graduated cylinder. No need for displacement with such small amount. BE CAREFUL. DO NOT SCREW UP MEASUREMENT.
Just know studies have been done and one patient took 12mg of Prami. DON'T TRY THAT. I am merely showing that you won't die from a small microgram deviation by not accounting for displacement of such small amount.The thing that scares me with compounds like prami, adex, etc. Is u either have to buy a high quality scale that costs many hundreds of dollars or uve gotta make a somewhat larger quantity to make sure it's not dramatically over or underdosed.

For example mist lower priced scales that say accurate to .0001 grams( accurate to 1 mg) ....are not accurate to 1 mg.

Unless it's an expensive scale u have to stick closer to the mid range of the scale if ur concerned with accuracy.

If the scale measures .0001 g to 5 grams for example the scale is going to usually be at its most accurate at the 2.5 gm mark.

Which means ud have to make a large quantity to ensure dosage accuracy.

Adex is my preferred AI but I'm scared to measure it out myself unless I flo ahead and buy a high quality scale.

I probably will someday

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[Plate Smacker]

A good mg scale is required.
I was able to successfully do 1mg/ml. 30ml bottle.
I have used the prami when I needed to.
I get restless leg syndrome at least once or twice in a 2 month period. Always right lower leg. Always at night.
I have used it mainly when running Deca and Tren together(with Test of course), when using minimum AI for mass gains. I use it as needed.

Important Prami info:
Pramipexole info: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2010/022421s000ChemR.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj0sevY_MzaAhXC5YMKHehhCYoQFggpMAE&usg=AOvVaw0dlBGSdNY15OJ97AKUb91g

Pramipexole patent
US212267817A1 - Process for Preparing Pramipexole Dihydrochloride Tablets
- Google Patents (https://www.google.com/patents/US20120267817)

[Plate Smacker]

Called Perrigo: they only have limited info, most likely because it's up to the compunding pharmacy to have data regarding it's standards for using Ora-plus. They wouldn't use alcohol anyway I don't think, they would use Ora-Sweet.
I will see what I can dig up in a bit.

[Smiley2327]

Does ora-plus need to be kept refrigerated?

[bayouboy1]

I tried clicking on the link in first post cause I'm interested but doesn't open can anyone repost the info

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[Caustic Charm]

Does ora-plus need to be kept refrigerated?

I know that Humco needs refrigeration. Find the product online and see if you can zoom in on the label


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[Caustic Charm]

I tried clicking on the link in first post cause I'm interested but doesn't open can anyone repost the info

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You looking for oral recipes?


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[Mr Myagi]

I purchased a bottle of thickened water from CVS. Products suspend well in it.

[bayouboy1]

You looking for oral recipes?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYes bud sorry late response but I am still looking. I have done a bunch of research and you read so much different shit it's hard to know which is the best or easiest

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[Caustic Charm]

Yes bud sorry late response but I am still looking. I have done a bunch of research and you read so much different shit it's hard to know which is the best or easiest

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Which orals are you looking to make? I find that for me, taste is important. I make all my orals for me, and if anyone wants to purchase them they can, knowing that mine have to be refrigerated to be useful in the long term. If you make with PEG 300 or 400 and 180 proof Everclear, you won’t have to refrigerate it, but your throat will hate you every time.


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[bayouboy1]

Which orals are you looking to make? I find that for me, taste is important. I make all my orals for me, and if anyone wants to purchase them they can, knowing that mine have to be refrigerated to be useful in the long term. If you make with PEG 300 or 400 and 180 proof Everclear, you won’t have to refrigerate it, but your throat will hate you every time.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI appreciate your response bud, sorry I have not really been around much lately but I've been using peg and alcohol. You correct it doesn't need to be refrigerated but I was just wanting to try something that tastes better.

You read and hear tons of different ways to make it so I just wanted to see if anyone has a simple way they make there own that doesn't taste as bad as how I been making it.

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[jimbosmith316]

I am going to use humco 2 in 1 first time making my own.

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[ghanaone]

Link no longer works can someone update please

[Caustic Charm]

Just to chime in I’ve been using humco for over 2 years, cherry flavor. I keep cialis raws at home and mix my own stuff. Dirt fucking cheap. If keeping it in the fridge is the worst thing I have to do, I’m good what that


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[anomily88]

I wanna make a liquid caber solution??

I have 20 1mg tabs ..

I wanna dillute to .5 mg at 1 ml ..

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[DAMIEN]

any aussie brewers around ?

[DAMIEN]

yes it works just fine brother! you can do it with any oral raw


CK have you tired this with anavar ? looking to do with 2g anavar i got whats best measurements to use, im looking to get some ora sweet is that all i need and distilled water ?


thanks

[Detroitmoney]

How accurate is this method for dosing each day ?

[GigabitEthernet]

Have any of you made nolva with this approach? I've heard that it can be tricky with other methods.

[cmeliftheavy]

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