JuicedVenom | expressdomsoldier (SCAMMER)

[JuicedVenom]

POSTED BY THE BOP STAFF:

This guy is a scammer and a liability to our entire community. He reps for several sponsors under different handles to get free gear and doesn't care if the sponsor is a scammer or not as long as he is getting paid. He is currently repping for Legend Pharmaceuticals, Express Domestic, Olympus, and PCT-Shop and who knows how many more. he has no morals or integrity and only cares about himself and do whatever it takes to scam people. And his avatar and who he claims to be in his picture are fake as well. For more info you can read this thread and see how he is full of shit and trying to get people to buy HGH that is fake and he has never tested or used and all the lies he spreads.


Username: JuicedVenom
Email: [email protected] (Tim Houck)
Username: expressdomsoldier
Email: [email protected]

IP Addresses: 96.89.218.186
...................: 71.174.201.116
...................: 174.59.149.241


His fake ass avatar that he claimed to be himself here is actually from a Force Factor advertisement.

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/showthread.php?14749-JUICEDVENOM

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3332&d=1403750735



And here is where he stole it from

http://moatsearch-data.s3.amazonaws.com/creatives/6197ba877de6db438093e162d528dc3cf235a833.jpg

http://www.moat.com/search/results?q=Force+Factor&ad=2274188
















Hey all I am the official Legend Rep .
I would like to answer any questions anyone has regarding products or orders . Feel free to PM in which I check in daily once or twice .
Please put question or order in title .
No need to post questions as I'm here to help .
Legend has been around a while and well proven track record .
Enjoy
JV

[studmuffin]

WOW, WHAT A DICK HEAD! WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND.

[gfisback]

Cool. I just made an order for the HGH. If it lives up to the hype I'll be making more orders.

[Dont wanna be old]

As solid as Legends product and reputation are , people still have questions .
Now everyone has a solid rep to assist them .
Thank you
DWBO

[eternalspirit]

Thanks JV

[JuicedVenom]

Thanks JV
No problem my brotha. That's why I'm here.

[PAiN]

Thanks for the info bro. Glad to have you around.

[studmuffin]

I am furious Brother and it is not your fault but if Anton does not make up for DWBO'S TIME, MONEY AND HOW MUCH HE PINNED OF THAT CRAP THEN IT IS OVER! I AM NOT BITCHING AT YOU I AM BITCHING AT ANTON. He has fucked one of the best brothers there are and I am on 4 sites so it will run like wild fire.

[JuicedVenom]

Totally understand and I've been working hard to correct all issues.

[NutritionGame]

would like to place order but im very confused on what to do. im new to forums in general and could really use some direction.

[JuicedVenom]

would like to place order but im very confused on what to do. im new to forums in general and could really use some direction.
Click on the site add. It will Bring you to the site. From there you can login place your order and follow the directions as directed. pm me if u need further assistance

or type in Google legendsteroid.com

[Mvee76]

I have not ordered yet.. Have been pricing different sources..You guys have the lowest prices I have ever seen.. I was just on the site. The anavar prices are so low it makes think maybe there is a mistake . actually all the prices are so so it makes me think there is some mistake.. I mean the cycle I have been pricing with various sources is hundreds less through Legend...

[Mvee76]

When is the last time someone ordered from Legend?.. Prices look great! How is the
Gear... Looking at diff. Sources legend def. Is the cheapest. But is the gear good... Is it worth it to spend a few hundred more with another source... Legend has everything I need for around $400 bucks.. Need some feedback bros.. Dont wanna get beat or get bunk gear or underdosed gear.... Whats up with Legend nowadays???

Thanks Bros

[Mvee76]

Well this post is a total turn off on ordering with Legend..

[wook]

I've ordered with Legend many times and never had a problem... Not even with the GH ( although I'll admit that I would be leery about ordering more Gh from them due to the recent probs with DWBO)! I know CK recently did Lab Max on Legends Anavar and it tested out good! In fact I just placed another order of Var from them this morning! I know their cheap compared to others, but that's what I like! Good gear that is affordable! I do not have ties whatsoever to them, just posting my experiences... Besides, if they were selling inferior gear, I promise you that the mods and Pain would not let them be on here! Good luck!

[PAiN]

When is the last time someone ordered from Legend?.. Prices look great! How is the
Gear... Looking at diff. Sources legend def. Is the cheapest. But is the gear good... Is it worth it to spend a few hundred more with another source... Legend has everything I need for around $400 bucks.. Need some feedback bros.. Dont wanna get beat or get bunk gear or underdosed gear.... Whats up with Legend nowadays???

Thanks Bros


I've ordered with Legend many times and never had a problem... Not even with the GH ( although I'll admit that I would be leery about ordering more Gh from them due to the recent probs with DWBO)! I know CK recently did Lab Max on Legends Anavar and it tested out good! In fact I just placed another order of Var from them this morning! I know their cheap compared to others, but that's what I like! Good gear that is affordable! I do not have ties whatsoever to them, just posting my experiences... Besides, if they were selling inferior gear, I promise you that the mods and Pain would not let them be on here! Good luck!


^^^This.

He has good gear bro no worries with Legend.

As wook has said if he had fake gear he would be removed.

We don't bullshit or fuck around like other boards and nobody here is paid off to say or promote a sponsor. Money doesn't drive BOP and it never will. All sponsors are held accountable for their actions.

[Mvee76]

Thanks Bros... Yes it was that post about DWBO that scared me a bit.. I was mainly worried about bad gear.. But Its all good now.. I will give Legend a shot when i'm ready. Thanks again..

[PAiN]

Thanks Bros... Yes it was that post about DWBO that scared me a bit.. I was mainly worried about bad gear.. But Its all good now.. I will give Legend a shot when i'm ready. Thanks again..

No worries bro. That was about his HGH. Some people tested it and it was great and some tested it and it was bad. When Anton heard about this he immediately sent more for free to have tested to make things right and that really shows the character of the sponsor. Anton is doing everything he can to make sure the company that is manufacturing his HGH is staying consistent and not screwing himself over as well as his customers.

[JuicedVenom]

New green tops Hgh are damn strong.

[Mvee76]

Thanks Bros.. Feeling much better about them now.. Will post when I order..my experience.. and def. Will put up some porn...

Thanks again..

[scorpioman81]

Good evening, quick maybe a dumb question. When I'm signing up for a new account do I put my legit info? Just making sure I do this right. Thanks for your time brother.

[PAiN]

New green tops Hgh are damn strong.


We will know that once I have them tested.

Until then it would be good to see you chime in on any of the other stuff in this thread or forum.

Do you have your new Green Tops? When did you get them and what batch are they?

Have you had them tested? You said the same thing about the last batch you had for a year until we got back bad results and then you said yours were bad too.

[FrankTheTank]

Good evening, quick maybe a dumb question. When I'm signing up for a new account do I put my legit info? Just making sure I do this right. Thanks for your time brother.

I did...

[JuicedVenom]

We will know that once I have them tested.

Until then it would be good to see you chime in on any of the other stuff in this thread or forum.

Do you have your new Green Tops? When did you get them and what batch are they?

Have you had them tested? You said the same thing about the last batch you had for a year until we got back bad results and then you said yours were bad too.

ok!!! I am always here. I do have them yes. Got last week. And tossed box. I put all my GH in a old container that the fit in perfectly
the last batch was up n down yes. Some were testin not so good while others 32. I am the only rep here and get many pm's daily. I'm busy

[JuicedVenom]

Good evening, quick maybe a dumb question. When I'm signing up for a new account do I put my legit info? Just making sure I do this right. Thanks for your time brother.
I answered this in a pm

[PAiN]

ok!!! I am always here. I do have them yes. Got last week. And tossed box. I put all my GH in a old container that the fit in perfectly
the last batch was up n down yes. Some were testin not so good while others 32. I am the only rep here and get many pm's daily. I'm busy

Busy? Yea "OK" Tossed box? Yea LMFAO...........Like I said.....YOU said the HGH was good to go up until we had them tested then you said your batch was also bunk? We have the emails and PM's to prove it. So do you have any definitive proof about your HGH or are you just regurgitating the same old shit so you get freebies? Do you have tests from yourself to prove it?

If you want to be a rep here you are going to have to quit posting shit that you think people want to hear and prove your info.

My staff and vets have mediated and taken care of every post in Legends forum. So if your to fucking busy you shouldn't be a rep.

What i am thinking is all you do is regurgitate bullshit to get free gear from good sponsors. How many sponsors are you repping for now for free shit?

[JuicedVenom]

I don't get free gear. And I don't do the tests. 3rd parties do. I say the truth as I know it. And freebies are not coming my way. I Actually donate my time. I'm A legends rep here. The tests last score was a 32 on old Hgh .I personally don't do the tests.
btw the green tops have no labels. The boxes were the same. With the legend seal.

[PAiN]

I don't get free gear. And I don't do the tests. 3rd parties do. I say the truth as I know it. And freebies are not coming my way. I Actually donate my time. I'm A legends rep here. There's tests last was a 32. I personally don't do the tests.
btw the green tops have no labels. The boxes were the same. With the legend seal.

I talk to Anton almost daily and yes you do get freebies. I also talked to your other boss that you rep for Express Domestic. This is your other handle you had on here and you got freebies from them as well. expressdomsoldier does that handle look familiar?

If you don't test the products you shouldn't speak on them. The 32 came from one of my guys on his kit and the other 15 kits came back 1. Now saying all the green tops are "Damn strong" is misleading to all of my people here because you have mislead them before and we haven't tested them yet. You said the same bullshit before about your own kits how great they were and then we we tested them you said yours were bunk as well.

If you don't have your own proof or any bloods from your kits please don't speak on them.

I would like to see your kits in a picture just to see you have them so please let's see what you have. Don't post no bullshit i can't take pics, or i can't do this blah blah blah. You apparently posted a pic of "yourself" as an avatar so you can share all the green tops you have with us so we know your not full of shit.

[getswole123]

I would like to see your kits in a picture just to see you have them so please let's see what you have. Don't post no bullshit i can't take pics, or i can't do this blah blah blah. You apparently posted a pic of "yourself" as an avatar so you can share all the green tops you have with us so we know your not full of shit.

Juice has no spine. He has no pride or self respect. He whores himself out for free shit. He will not sit there and actually have a dialogue with anyone anymore. A year or two ago he used to be stand up and actually have a dialogue with unhappy customers and would go out of his way to help.

Now he just doesnt give a fuck anymore. He will regurgitate the same bullshit over and over *our gear is good* our gear is strong bla bla bla. I told you guys. This source is frankly a hit and miss.

[JuicedVenom]

I talk to Anton almost daily and yes you do get freebies. I also talked to your other boss that you rep for Express Domestic. This is your other handle you had on here and you got freebies from them as well. expressdomsoldier does that handle look familiar?

If you don't test the products you shouldn't speak on them. The 32 came from one of my guys on his kit and the other 15 kits came back 1. Now saying all the green tops are "Damn strong" is misleading to all of my people here because you have mislead them before and we haven't tested them yet. You said the same bullshit before about your own kits how great they were and then we we tested them you said yours were bunk as well.

If you don't have your own proof or any bloods from your kits please don't speak on them.

I would like to see your kits in a picture just to see you have them so please let's see what you have. Don't post no bullshit i can't take pics, or i can't do this blah blah blah. You apparently posted a pic of "yourself" as an avatar so you can share all the green tops you have with us so we know your not full of shit.
Email sent

[JuicedVenom]

Juice has no spine. He has no pride or self respect. He whores himself out for free shit. He will not sit there and actually have a dialogue with anyone anymore. A year or two ago he used to be stand up and actually have a dialogue with unhappy customers and would go out of his way to help.

Now he just doesnt give a fuck anymore. He will regurgitate the same bullshit over and over *our gear is good* our gear is strong bla bla bla. I told you guys. This source is frankly a hit and miss.

U r way wrong. Go ahead and team up. Ill still do my job

[getswole123]

U r way wrong. Go ahead and team up. Ill still do my job

Team up? No one is teaming up. People are pointing out issues with legend, all you choose to do is shut your ears and stay quiet. Because we all know you get gear from legend, whether its bunk or underdosed you dont care aslong as its free right?

Well not free... All you have to do is be a tosser, lie and cheat everyone who deals with you.. Oh i guess it isnt so free. Karma mate. One day.

[JuicedVenom]

I don't get free gear. And I'm not lying to no one. I use it for TRT. And I love it. I'm on var now and leaning out. Idk y u say karma. We work hard too assure quality products. Pain himself said legends was gtg and DWBO as well. So if im lying??!!
I'm 40. No time to play games or lie. If you are unhappy with legends gear, we make it right. And if it were junk y would we be giving away free trials? That would be a mistake. I won't argue or continue to go to these depths. I'm a rep and if a issue arises im here to help. And never denied anyone help. I don't know what you guys think im gettin paid, but whatever you're thinking your way off. Some sponsers pay a lot. You got me mixed up with them. Legends has been here for a long time. And I've done nothing but help out people in need. Even gave free gear away many times. That I paid for. Sorry you feel im so low. It's sad cuz I'm very honest and do as im told. u dont know me or my situation. My brother was murdered recently. So I'm holding it together pretty well considering ty for your honest opinion of me

[getswole123]

I don't get free gear. And I'm not lying to no one. I use it for TRT. And I love it. I'm on var now and leaning out. Idk y u say karma. We work hard too assure quality products. Pain himself said legends was gtg and DWBO as well. So if im lying??!!
I'm 40. No time to play games or lie. If you are unhappy with legends gear, we make it right. And if it were junk y would we be giving away free trials? That would be a mistake. I won't argue or continue to go to these depths. I'm a rep and if a issue arises im here to help. And never denied anyone help. I don't know what you guys think im gettin paid, but whatever you're thinking your way off. Some sponsers pay a lot. You got me mixed up with them. Legends has been here for a long time. And I've done nothing but help out people in need. Even gave free gear away many times. That I paid for. Sorry you feel im so low. It's sad cuz I'm very honest and do as im told. u dont know me or my situation. My brother was murdered recently. So I'm holding it together pretty well considering ty for your honest opinion of me

I'm sorry for your loss mate. But unfortunately that doesnt change the fact anton has fucked over people before with underdosed gear etc. Remember the cut stacks on ASF? I grew a distinct dislike for you and joe for continuing to rep for him especially after all the dramas.

Considering If i remember correctly YOU stated that you would leave anton and legend if he didnt rectify the situation with the underdosed gear etc. We all felt so happy to have you on our side. To only have you continue with legend... As i stated i liked you before the dramas with legend, since they started and you continued to whore for them i find it harder and harder to even have a dialogue with you without insult.

[JuicedVenom]

I'm sorry for your loss mate. But unfortunately that doesnt change the fact anton has fucked over people before with underdosed gear etc. Remember the cut stacks on ASF? I grew a distinct dislike for you and joe for continuing to rep for him especially after all the dramas.

Considering If i remember correctly YOU stated that you would leave anton and legend if he didnt rectify the situation with the underdosed gear etc. We all felt so happy to have you on our side. To only have you continue with legend... As i stated i liked you before the dramas with legend, since they started and you continued to whore for them i find it harder and harder to even have a dialogue with you without insult.


Yes joe and I said we would not be reppin if the gear was bad. That's a fact.why would I? Anton has been fair to everyone and ANTON has corrected every single problem and some. So I stick by him. He's rectified his product and shipping issues. He also has no problem to resend or refund. I respect him for that. There's a lot of drama on ASF. I'm not even assigned to that site. Yet help as needed. Joe has that under control.

[wook]

Bro, I think what everyone is saying is don't just post up shit like, "The new green tops are strong!" without proof of a test. You've lost a lot of credibility on this board with all of the bullshit you were spewing about the Legendtropins being gtg, when you knew at least some were bunk... You keep throwing out that 32 score, which was mine, but everyone else that I know who tried them had very poor results! I got mine when Legend first started selling the GH so it was probably one of the first batches made. From what I've heard and read, all of the more recent batches were/are bunk! And you knew that, but continued to post up that you were running them and they were GTG! And as far as you not receiving free gear, I'm calling bullshit on that as well! There is no other reason to rep and take the abuse that you do! Bro, just stop lying!

[JuicedVenom]

Our Hgh was hit or miss. I agree. Anton switched pharmaceutical companys. If or how I get paid is noones buisness and has nothing to do with anything. So that's MY BUSINESS! Now I'm here to help those who want help. Otherwise let it go. ill be here to do my job as the boss tell me. Ty and respect.

[JuicedVenom]

Until tests are out let's stop. Ok. im here to assist clients. Not argue.

[FrankTheTank]

I'm sitting here about to have blood drawn to test some of legends hgh.

[JuicedVenom]

Glad to hear. Is it green tops?? Or old Blu or black tops?

[FrankTheTank]

Glad to hear. Is it green tops?? Or old Blu or black tops?

Blue top.

[JuicedVenom]

Ok. Thank you

[Dont wanna be old]

I'm sitting here about to have blood drawn to test some of legends hgh.
Thanks for doing this Frank .
DWBO

[wook]

Blue top.

The one's that I had were blues too... What's the date on yours?

[wook]

Until tests are out let's stop. Ok. im here to assist clients. Not argue.

That's exactly what I'm saying... You fucking stop spouting off your bullshit until you have a test to prove it! Looks like Frank's taking care of it as long as he is running a new batch! And your the one who brought up the fact that you don't receive compensation from Legend... Frankly, I think you have worn out your welcome on here! Trust is huuuge on this board, and from where I'm standing, you have none!

[JuicedVenom]

Ty sir. The newest batch is green tops. Ty. Much respect
as I said before we have switched pharmaceutical companies that produce our growth hormone. The newest version is the green tops produced by A entirely different enterprise

[PAiN]

FIRST POST HAS BEEN UPDATED ABOUT THIS SCAMMER



POSTED BY THE BOP STAFF:

This guy is a scammer and a liability to our entire community. He reps for several sponsors under different handles to get free gear and doesn't care if the sponsor is a scammer or not as long as he is getting paid. He is currently repping for Legend Pharmaceuticals, Express Domestic, Olympus, and PCT-Shop and who knows how many more. he has no morals or integrity and only cares about himself and do whatever it takes to scam people. And his avatar and who he claims to be in his picture are fake as well. For more info you can read this thread and see how he is full of shit and trying to get people to buy HGH that is fake and he has never tested or used and all the lies he spreads.



Username: JuicedVenom
Email: [email protected]

Username: expressdomsoldier
Email: [email protected]

IP Addresses: 96.89.218.186
...................: 71.174.201.116
...................: 174.59.149.241

His fake ass avatar that he claimed to be himself here is actually from a Force Factor advertisement.

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/showthread.php?14749-JUICEDVENOM

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3332&d=1403750735



And here is where he stole it from

http://moatsearch-data.s3.amazonaws.com/creatives/6197ba877de6db438093e162d528dc3cf235a833.jpg

http://www.moat.com/search/results?q=Force+Factor&ad=2274188

[Dont wanna be old]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2edrtkj.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/1235f5w.jpg

[grademan]

It sucks that there are people like this. It makes it harder for everyone else at times. But thank the good lord the BOP is a brotherhood and tight community. We have the best Admin and mods here I believe with my heart. Pain and our mods look out for the brothers and sisters and that what makes this place the best. It's sad that this happens but JV told enough lies and bs it caught up with him. DWBO bends over backwards to help ppl and has the patience I could only dream of but still they can't rectify this. JV and Anton can only blame themselves and The Staff of bop gave plenty of chances. Thank you Pain and mods for all that you do.

[studmuffin]

Well this is the nature of the beast, GREED! Whether it be gear or money it can grabs us around the neck and choke us until the devil gets his do. I am so glad that we have a tremendous staff here and I am proud to be part of this board. I might have to wear my Brotherhood Of Pain hoody to workout in today. Glad the vulture is gone!

[wook]

Does this mean JV can't really bench 420? LOL

[FrankTheTank]

Maybe that is really him in that advertisement....lol All he did was break one PR after another! 165 pounds squatting 600lbs!

[animal87]

I want to shake a mans hand if he can squat 600 at 160lb lol. The last timed i tried anything close to that it felt like u was dieing.

[studmuffin]

Does this mean JV can't really bench 420? LOL
LMAO!

[mattnc98]

So thats his IP address lol thats all I need lmao he's hit

[mattnc98]

Man thats all anyone needs to track him lol. If he's smart he will trash phones and pads lol let's :Vv9Fq2xVKj1hC.jpg: this idiot lol

[Dick]

So thats his IP address lol thats all I need lmao he's hit

You would think that's all VPN plus TOR if he was smart.

[mattnc98]

Why can't people be honest if u rep and gear dont work quit etc. If not why u doing it out of acceptance etc. Anyways guys I know how u feel I got screwed on 2500 worth of raws years ago and I owed people so to get my name I had to get a title loan to pay back funds.

[mattnc98]

He could bench 400 lbs of cock!! I got to quit. LoL I hate fakes

[mattnc98]

I got to get saved all over again now.

[Dick]

Well bro you have resp that smoke pole for a free bottle from numerous sources, then you have good stand up reps that only rep for one lab proving that lab is good. He was a piece of shit that fucked his so called brothers just so he would meet is requirements to get free gear.

If you are a rep just be honest, if the gear sucks or has a bite let us know! Done deal.

[mattnc98]

Well bro you have resp that smoke pole for a free bottle from numerous sources, then you have good stand up reps that only rep for one lab proving that lab is good. He was a piece of shit that fucked his so called brothers just so he would meet is requirements to get free gear.

If you are a rep just be honest, if the gear sucks or has a bite let us know! Done deal.

Amen

[mattnc98]

A mans worth resides in his word!!!

[rageking]

the problem is he can snake his way back to the board with a different handle !! smh

[mattnc98]

But not with same ipaddrss

[rageking]

true

[gearedup850]

I havent known JV for as long as I have known some people,but he says he cant get on here and respond and that someone named anton ripped everyone off,hes just a rep.Ive been where he is before and hate to see someone not get a fair shake,you guys can do what you want,I like BOP,but not so much that Im gonna jump in on a gang rape with all the big boys of BOP.Not to say I dont respect many of you and your opinion+knowledge,but they way you handle situations like this is questionable.I've said my piece and will leave it at that.

[Dont wanna be old]

I havent known JV for as long as I have known some people,but he says he cant get on here and respond and that someone named anton ripped everyone off,hes just a rep.Ive been where he is before and hate to see someone not get a fair shake,you guys can do what you want,I like BOP,but not so much that Im gonna jump in on a gang rape with all the big boys of BOP.Not to say I dont respect many of you and your opinion+knowledge,but they way you handle situations like this is questionable.I've said my piece and will leave it at that.

Your entitled to your opinion .
Juicedvenom didn't send the bad kits true .
His communications and posts showing reason for his dismissal are posted .
Wish him no ill will but he can not be a member here .
DWBO

[PAiN]

I havent known JV for as long as I have known some people,but he says he cant get on here and respond and that someone named anton ripped everyone off,hes just a rep.Ive been where he is before and hate to see someone not get a fair shake,you guys can do what you want,I like BOP,but not so much that Im gonna jump in on a gang rape with all the big boys of BOP.Not to say I dont respect many of you and your opinion+knowledge,but they way you handle situations like this is questionable.I've said my piece and will leave it at that.

What do you mean the way we handled this situation? You mean by holding people accountable for their actions? For keeping thousands of members safe and not letting them waste their hard earned money buying fake shit because a rep that doesn't even use gear posts fake tests? Is that what you mean? If he hadn't lied his ass off he would still be here. Instead of being a man and letting people know about the bad HGH a year ago he chose greed and covered the entire situation up.

He was banned for lying and intentionally misleading members. Like I said f he had been honest about the bad HGH a when he found out then he would still be here. Instead he covered it up and no telling how many thousands were scammed from this. Rep or not you have a moral obligation to this board and should have one in life to let members know when something bad is going on.

Not get a fair shake? I am sure those thousands of people he lured into buying this crap didn't get a fair shake from him. He sat back and kept collecting the funds like a scammer.

All the info has been posted how he lied to members about tests, said he used the HGH, the HGH was "DAMN STRONG", and we have emails where he said it was crap and he won't even use it. He also said he doesn't get paid for this and we have emails that prove that is a lie as well. If you read the thread instead of listening to his lying ass you will see what transpired. He is a rep under several different names and does the same thing with other labs.

BOP has integrity and holds sponsors as well as reps accountable for their actions.

If you don't like the way we do that maybe this board isn't the board for you.

We take care of our brothers and sisters here.

Oh and be sure to let him know if he keeps making up bullshit lies about BOP we will take this further.

[gearedup850]

Im just saying banning him so people cant even speak to him is a for sure way nobody is gonna get anything.If you never even give him a chance to make it right by banning him,hey maybe you guys are right though,Im not saying I know him better than other people on here,I may eat my words later.Just seems like banning him where he cant respond at all wont help.I mean I have a guy that ripped me off in person that will answer the phone everyday and tell me some BS story,I promised to punch him in the mouth when I do catch up with him and he still answers the phone and promises me that he will get me my money.Im not saying I dont understand and am by no means trying to be one sided,sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way,I just cant sit by and say nothing though.Not the type.

[preacher]

Pain I truly appreciate the way you,DWBO,Frank and others involved,uncovered and exposed this mess..everybody is entitled to their opinion,but they have to and must understand that this is completely about honesty,integrity and the safety of our community..Where would we be if we didn't look out for each other like this,this is why we call each other BROTHERS..

[PAiN]

Im just saying banning him so people cant even speak to him is a for sure way nobody is gonna get anything.If you never even give him a chance to make it right by banning him,hey maybe you guys are right though,Im not saying I know him better than other people on here,I may eat my words later.Just seems like banning him where he cant respond at all wont help.I mean I have a guy that ripped me off in person that will answer the phone everyday and tell me some BS story,I promised to punch him in the mouth when I do catch up with him and he still answers the phone and promises me that he will get me my money.Im not saying I dont understand and am by no means trying to be one sided,sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way,I just cant sit by and say nothing though.Not the type.

Then you don't know BOP. Did you read this entire thread?

He was given several chances and months to help with this situation and he did nothing except try to lure more people into buying this HGH that was testing at a .1 and over $300.00 a kit.

Everyone that ordered received. They just received fake HGH. Then there were reships for the real "DAMN STRONG" HGH as he said and .1 on the bloods again and then again for a 3rd time a reship and .1 and the entire time he is luring people in with lies to make more orders.

Having him banned keeps our community safe. If you read this thread you will see all the excuses he has made and the bullshit lies.

If you don't get it now then you never will.

[getswole123]

I told you guys JV was a whore for whoever would give him free shit. I warned you all! ha..


Glad he got what was coming to him! Bastard!

[grademan]

I told you guys JV was a whore for whoever would give him free shit. I warned you all! ha..


Glad he got what was coming to him! Bastard!

There were other ppl that Said that before you showed up. So the told ya so is already reserved for the others. He lied and lied so ya he got what he deserved. It's not the Bop staffs fault it's the ugl owner he worked for that gave him the spot. So being a smart ass to the staff is not called for. Email the ug owner and tell them that. The staff of BOP just had to deal with him being a lowlife pos.

[getswole123]

There were other ppl that Said that before you showed up. So the told ya so is already reserved for the others. He lied and lied so ya he got what he deserved. It's not the Bop staffs fault it's the ugl owner he worked for that gave him the spot. So being a smart ass to the staff is not called for. Email the ug owner and tell them that. The staff of BOP just had to deal with him being a lowlife pos.

SMart ass to staff? Sorry grademan didnt mean for it to come across like that :). I was merely laughing at the ridiculousness of the asshole thats all. The staff did more then most other forums im on would do. Their protecting the community as they should. Respect!

Damn! That's okay ill take 5th place lol

[grademan]

SMart ass to staff? Sorry grademan didnt mean for it to come across like that :). I was merely laughing at the ridiculousness of the asshole thats all. The staff did more then most other forums im on would do. Their protecting the community as they should. Respect!

Damn! That's okay ill take 5th place lol

hey brother. I prob just read it wrong. You can still have the 5th spot though.
I have been a little crabby lately needing a Manpon I guess. Tren is kicking my tail first time I have had sides like this with insomnia and my wife mentioned today I am real edgy. It's all good brother.

[FrankTheTank]

Pain, you took the words right out of my mouth man!!!!

Gearedup850 is probably JV anyways. I mean we all know he is "geared up" from all the free shit he gets.....

[wook]

Pain, you took the words right out of my mouth man!!!!

Gearedup850 is probably JV anyways. I mean we all know he is "geared up" from all the free shit he gets.....

I thought the same thing, but after looking at it, his grammar is a little better... Not the same guy, but still not BOP material IMHO! :WZbauviWOgekOW0Cn:

[grademan]

Where is DWBO and the ban hammer. Lol

[FrankTheTank]

I'll be dropping this one but I PMed him and asked if he had any final words.....lol

[HDH]

JV has had a bad rep for years. There used to be a bunch of info on him at AJDOS' old board.

The board shut down after he passed because he was the only one with the passwords for billing.

I saw JV at another board a few months back but didn't put it together. I had that feeling though.

H

[HDH]

He must really be in love with his handle? You and I, HDH, have had the same handles for a decade or more...but we also haven't ripped off any Community members.

Unfortunately, the online community has become so big as opposed to 10+ years ago that these guys can get away with using the same names. There was a time when you simply couldn't do that.

About a year ago there was 130+ boards active and I'm not sure if that counts the private places either.

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[expressdomestic]

I don't want to get to deep in to things because I don't sponsor here right now, I just came on to make sure no damage was done. I signed in to another forum just to check things out, Jv sent me a message immediately insisting that I owe him something for shutting down without warning. This was strange to me because I gave warning for a month and a half, he was my rep on one of the biggest forums out there and while he was my rep it was the one with the lowest sales volume. As soon as I started working it without him things picked up in a way you would not believe, which would make any normal sponsor think that maybe he was directing some of my customers with questions towards one of the other 5 sponsors he worked for, maybe one who was giving him a killer deal. When we left we gave him a pack worth 5 x his normal payment, he still just sent me a message saying that we owe him and better pay, He said that we better because he knows a lot about us(not true, he only knew what I wanted him to) which seems like a poorly veiled le threat. Now I'm not sponsoring here right now so I'm not staying long but it was important for me to make this statement for 2 reasons.

Expressdomesticsoldier was not juiced venom, he was a great kid who lived 40 miles from me, I got to know him and know about his life and family personally. The difference between this kid and jv couldn't be more clear after talking to them at least every other day for the better part of a year. I met 120bpm at eroids, he wasn't greedy, he worked hard and when he worked for us things always went well.

Jv on the other hand was almost twice as old as him, he was greedy, petty, arrogant, a know it all and always trying to get one over. He lived the better part of 1000 miles from me and I know because I sent them mail every month. I couldn't be more sure about this.

the other reason for the statement is that I want to make sure jv didn't use my name to beat anyone, if you do have a complaint like that hopefully it's ok to contact dwbo. I didn't confirm it with him but I know he would want to help members if they got beat. I sent him my email address just in case anything like that happened, I can't post it here because i'm not sponsoring here right now. Thanks for your time, hope I cleared things up.

[Immortal]

He goes by many names... Supposedly non lifter

[FrankTheTank]

He goes by many names... Supposedly non lifter

Usually the guy that talks the most does the least....

Everyday he was posting about working out 2-3 times a day and lifting like 4 times his body weight....lol The worse part is, people actually believed his shit.

[mattnc98]

Usually the guy that talks the most does the least....

Everyday he was posting about working out 2-3 times a day and lifting like 4 times his body weight....lol The worse part is, people actually believed his shit.

I can barely push through one workout a day.