Thirsty's Training Log - First Cycle

[Thirsty]

A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here... I was an athlete in high school and college, then landed a desk job and lost my way a bit. Depressed, fat, lazy. Allow me to apologize in advance, not pretty, but here's day one, at 265. It's bad, don't look...

4016
4017

I warned you..

Gym membership, TONS of research on diet, and a major lifestyle overhaul later, and I was dropping 3 pounds a week, but losing ground on maintaining muscle mass. I decided to take lifting to the next level, and hired a trainer. Around this time going to the gym became something of an obsession. Making the change from copying what other guys at the gym were doing to having a structured, focused plan of attack, and correcting form problems made all the difference. And here we are today, about a year later...

4018
4019

I actually ended up 15 pounds more lean mass than I had anticipated, at around 7%, 218. Life is good.
So now, enough of this cutting nonsense, it's time to GROW!

My goals for this cycle are to gain as much mass as possible, while maintaining a reasonable level of body fat. Keeping it simple, and looking for solid, maintainable, clean and lean gains.

Cycle is set up as follows.

Test-E @ 250mg Every 3 Days for 13 weeks
DBol @ 40mg Every Day for first 4 weeks
Adex @ .5mg Every Day for duration of Test, plus one week
Nolva for PCT / Side flareups as needed
HCG to bridge last week of Test into PCT

[Thirsty]

The Supply:

Ordered though PSL, and so far has been a good experience, great communication, quick turn around after collecting funds. I had some difficulty with Western Union, and had to switch to MoneyGram mid order. They were understanding, thanked me for the update, and took care of it on their end. Next thing I know they are responding with a tracking number. I'm currently wearing out the USPS website clicking "refresh" to check on my pack's progress. Can't say enough good things about these guys, and can't wait to try out their products.

[Thirsty]

The gym schedule:

I like to split cardio and lifting. I do fasted cardio in the morning before work, then head back for weight work after. Makes for lots of laundry, but it works for me. I will be on the following schedule:

Day 1 - Chest
Day 2 - Back
Day 3 - Abs / Calves
Day 4 - Arms
Day 5 - Legs
Day 6 - Shoulders
Day 7 - Light Cardio

I'll fill out the details in the first week, and note any major changes through the process.

[wook]

Looks good brother... Nice transformation! Keep up the hard work! I have a feeling that you will explode on this upcoming cycle! Have fun!!!:RnwxSzKYAo4QV47Y.jp

[HebenSchwere]

Subbed.

[kubes]

Nice transformation brother! You should be very proud of your accomplishments

[animal87]

You look lean and mean now brother good job.

[Thirsty]

Thanks guys... I appreciate you following along, and any advice you can lend along the way.

I'm trying to decide what route to take on the D-bol... I have 150 10mg pills en route. Options would be 1. Use it as a kickstart to the test, 40/day, for 5 weeks, or 2. Knock it down to 20mg per day and use it to augment the test for 11 weeks, then add in something at the end to go out with a bang? Deca Maybe?

[Jozifp103]

i'll be following along brother. Good choice on the psl gear, you have a great....and i mean GREAT base for a first cycle.

[Largerthannormal]

Following

[Largerthannormal]

Good work brother!!


A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here... I was an athlete in high school and college, then landed a desk job and lost my way a bit. Depressed, fat, lazy. Allow me to apologize in advance, not pretty, but here's day one, at 265. It's bad, don't look...

4016
4017

I warned you..

Gym membership, TONS of research on diet, and a major lifestyle overhaul later, and I was dropping 3 pounds a week, but losing ground on maintaining muscle mass. I decided to take lifting to the next level, and hired a trainer. Around this time going to the gym became something of an obsession. Making the change from copying what other guys at the gym were doing to having a structured, focused plan of attack, and correcting form problems made all the difference. And here we are today, about a year later...



4018
4019

I actually ended up 15 pounds more lean mass than I had anticipated, at around 7%, 218. Life is good.
So now, enough of this cutting nonsense, it's time to GROW!

My goals for this cycle are to gain as much mass as possible, while maintaining a reasonable level of body fat. Keeping it simple, and looking for solid, maintainable, clean and lean gains.

Cycle is set up as follows.

Test-E @ 250mg Every 3 Days for 13 weeks
DBol @ 40mg Every Day for first 4 weeks
Adex @ .5mg Every Day for duration of Test, plus one week
Nolva for PCT / Side flareups as needed ( I would consider Clomid or Torem here in addition to your tamox)
HCG to bridge last week of Test into PCT ( i usually keep HCG all they way thru cycle to maintain testicular function) but this is a very controversial subject.

[noarch]

Looking forward to following along.

[Thirsty]

Large - I'll grab some Torem, I've heard good things. How to do space your HCG? 1500iu once a week?

[Thirsty]

Thanks noarch, I'm working my way through yours right now, great work brother! I hope my log and results turn out as good as yours.

[Largerthannormal]

I do 250 twice a week

[HebenSchwere]

I do 250 twice a week

This^^ Ideally, pin your hcg the day before pinning test and continue to run it up to 3 days prior to starting pct.

[Thirsty]

Will do! Luckily I have a good bit of it laying around from an ex's batshit crazy diet she was on.

[Clark Kent]

Fuckin A brother! Thats one hell of a transform! How are you handling the attention? People who know you must be blown away and people who meet you are saying damn look at this dude! Great job!

[Thirsty]

Thanks Mr. Kent! Actually it's nice, quite a few people have lost weight, changed eating habits, and are more active based on seeing what I have done, and asking for my help. Even managed to get the vending machine at work to stock healthy options. However... People don't like to hear what it ACTUALLY takes. "You go to the gym HOW MANY times a day?" "You eat WHAT for lunch?" takes some work to find a good balance of job, family, diet and exercise, and very few people are willing to put in that work.

[Thirsty]

Ordered Pins today. Packs of 100 huh? Should last me a while!

Anxiously waiting for Europe to move my pack along...

Using this time to second guess my Test-E / Dbol cycle. I think I want to throw in another compound towards the end, Mast or Primo, just to have a strong finish and maybe harden up some going into PCT.

[kubes]

Mast is one of my favorites

[Thirsty]

Do you think 6 weeks is long enough to get a decent kick out of it Dr. Kubes? 3-400mg / wk?

[Largerthannormal]

Large loves mast too!

[Largerthannormal]

And mast e you would need to run longer . personally I Run 5-600

[kubes]

Do you think 6 weeks is long enough to get a decent kick out of it Dr. Kubes? 3-400mg / wk?

Mast p maybe. Mast e I would run longer for sure. I think 300 is a bit on the low side. 600 is my sweet spot

[Thirsty]

Mast p maybe. Mast e I would run longer for sure. I think 300 is a bit on the low side. 600 is my sweet spot

So..

Test-E at 600 a week
D-Bol @ 40 / day for first 4 weeks
and Mast-e at 600 for the duration.

Should be a hell of a ride :)

Guess I should get to ordering!

[Largerthannormal]

That's close to what I'm doing now.

[Thirsty]

That's close to what I'm doing now.

That's a sure sign I'm doing something right!

Man, I'm glad you guys have my back on this.

[Largerthannormal]

I think you'll love it!

[kubes]

So..

Test-E at 600 a week
D-Bol @ 40 / day for first 4 weeks
and Mast-e at 600 for the duration.

Should be a hell of a ride :)

Guess I should get to ordering!

It will be one heck of a ride. Are you running an Ai or hcg?

[Thirsty]

I think you'll love it!

For the price tag, I should hope so. Sheesh.

[Thirsty]

It will be one heck of a ride. Are you running an Ai or hcg?

I've got Adex, and (thanks to your suggestion) will be running HCG weekly.

[kubes]

I've got Adex, and (thanks to your suggestion) will be running HCG weekly.

Perfect hcg 250 iu 2xew and Adex at .25 mg eod is a good starting point

[Thirsty]

Perfect hcg 250 iu 2xew and Adex at .25 mg eod is a good starting point

Exactly what I have on my fancy spreadsheet / calendar / injection and dosing schedule.

[Largerthannormal]

Lol I used to make a Lil calender chart too, it does help. Excel sheet even

[Largerthannormal]

Most my focus is meal timing and prep..

[Thirsty]

Most my focus is meal timing and prep..

Lucky for me, I've been on the diet focus train for a while now, so that's the easy part!

[kubes]

Lol I used to make a Lil calender chart too, it does help. Excel sheet even

Haha you are that guy.... ;)

[Thirsty]

Edit

[Largerthannormal]

Haha you are that guy.... ;)
I'm the weird who walks around with a food scale in my back pocket and measuring cups on my key chain....lol jk jk

[Largerthannormal]

Lucky for me, I've been on the diet focus train for a while now, so that's the easy part!
Ya man your doing awesome! Keep it up!

[Thirsty]

Thanks Large, Gotta get me one of those pocket scales!

[kubes]

I'm the weird who walks around with a food scale in my back pocket and measuring cups on my key chain....lol jk jk

Ditto brother. I won't eat it unless it's weighed to the correct amount

[noarch]

Excel spreadsheets and calendar alerts for all my dosings here too.

Nerd alert!

[Thirsty]

Excel spreadsheets and calendar alerts for all my dosings here too.

Seems like a great idea to me! If anyone wants some help setting something like this up, let me know. I'm happy to help. I've got an overly-complicated one I use for weight / body fat tracking too.

[Largerthannormal]

I may hit you up for that brother! I got most everything memorized but I change plans a lot. So it may be helpful

[noarch]

Seems like a great idea to me! If anyone wants some help setting something like this up, let me know. I'm happy to help. I've got an overly-complicated one I use for weight / body fat tracking too.

Hey Thirsty, I'd be curious to see what you've come up with for your diet and weight management spreadsheets. I'm happy to share mine with everyone as well. (I tried starting a new thread for it, but I guess you can't upload Excel files here?) Shoot me a PM and we can figure out how to get them to each other.

[kawa636]

Awesome transformation. Props to u maN

[Thirsty]

Pack has reached the mainland! Reconsidering adding Mast... If the rest is nearly here I can't see waiting another week or so for delivery. PSL has been great, and I want to keep one source for the whole run. They have earned some loyalty! Saving Mast for round two. Think it may be a better move to keep my first cycle simple and easy.

[noarch]

First cycle is fun for sure!

[Largerthannormal]

Less is more brother! You are correct. Especially for your first few cycles. You will do great with no mast.

[Thirsty]

Thanks Large, I'm fighting this "kid in a candy store" thing right now. I want it ALL! :)

[Thirsty]

Just got a PM from PSL rep, checking in, making sure everything was going smoothly with my order. Where else can you find that kind of customer service? SUPER rare these days for sure. This being my first go round, I had some reservations about the whole transaction. Communication goes a LONG way towards easing my anxiety, and is much appreciated. :)

[QualityOne]

A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here... I was an athlete in high school and college, then landed a desk job and lost my way a bit. Depressed, fat, lazy. Allow me to apologize in advance, not pretty, but here's day one, at 265. It's bad, don't look...

4016
4017

I warned you..

Gym membership, TONS of research on diet, and a major lifestyle overhaul later, and I was dropping 3 pounds a week, but losing ground on maintaining muscle mass. I decided to take lifting to the next level, and hired a trainer. Around this time going to the gym became something of an obsession. Making the change from copying what other guys at the gym were doing to having a structured, focused plan of attack, and correcting form problems made all the difference. And here we are today, about a year later...

4018
4019

I actually ended up 15 pounds more lean mass than I had anticipated, at around 7%, 218. Life is good.
So now, enough of this cutting nonsense, it's time to GROW!

My goals for this cycle are to gain as much mass as possible, while maintaining a reasonable level of body fat. Keeping it simple, and looking for solid, maintainable, clean and lean gains.

Cycle is set up as follows.

Test-E @ 250mg Every 3 Days for 13 weeks
DBol @ 40mg Every Day for first 4 weeks
Adex @ .5mg Every Day for duration of Test, plus one week
Nolva for PCT / Side flareups as needed
HCG to bridge last week of Test into PCT

Holy Crap! Nice work Thirsty!

[studmuffin]

Looking great Brother!

[Thirsty]

Looking great Brother!

Just yall wait... I plan on busting at the seams here shortly. I have a LONG ways to go to be in your guy's league.

[studmuffin]

Now that is discipline, having a scale in your back pocket.

[QualityOne]

Hey Thirsty, I'd be curious to see what you've come up with for your diet and weight management spreadsheets. I'm happy to share mine with everyone as well. (I tried starting a new thread for it, but I guess you can't upload Excel files here?) Shoot me a PM and we can figure out how to get them to each other.


You can share google docs (if you have a gmail account), used to use it all of the time, I think its called "Google Drive" now. They have an "excel" type work sheet in there, as well as a "Word" doc. You can post the link and share it... and can tweak the settings so that no one tinkers around or changes your info.

[noarch]

You can share google docs (if you have a gmail account), used to use it all of the time, I think its called "Google Drive" now. They have an "excel" type work sheet in there, as well as a "Word" doc. You can post the link and share it... and can tweak the settings so that no one tinkers around or changes your info.

Cool...I didn't think of google docs.

I uploaded my spreadsheet and started a new thread over in the diet section for anyone who wants to use it.

[Thirsty]

Thanks norach! Your diet spreadsheet makes mine look childish!

[studmuffin]

Looking great Brother!

[noarch]

Thanks norach! Your diet spreadsheet makes mine look childish!

I hope people find it useful.....

How's your delivery tracking bro?

[Thirsty]

Pack made it through customs lighting fast, and is inbound from New York. I will have it in hand this week, sooner than I had planned on. Got my first round of groceries today... Man its going to take some adjustments to go from cut diet to feeding a cycle. It's been over a year since I've consumed more than 3000 calories in one day. Chicken population is going to take a serious beating these next few months!

[noarch]

Pack made it through customs lighting fast, and is inbound from New York. I will have it in hand this week, sooner than I had planned on. Got my first round of groceries today... Man its going to take some adjustments to go from cut diet to feeding a cycle. It's been over a year since I've consumed more than 3000 calories in one day. Chicken population is going to take a serious beating these next few months!

Lol I was thinking today how nice it was gonna be to watch my checking account balance climb when I shift over to a cutting diet!

[Freedom]

Looking very impressive, thirsty.

Keep up the great work!

[Thirsty]

Pack is on a truck, out for delivery! Should have some porn for you guys tonight :)

[noarch]

Don't use it all at once! ;-)

[Thirsty]

What, I can't pre-load 12 weeks worth???

[Thirsty]

Christmas came early! Big ol pack waiting for me at the post office. Gotta admit, I was a tad nervous walking in there to pick it up, but when the guy brought it out I felt pretty dumb. "discreet" is not the word... More like stealth. PSL has it down to a science! There is a reason it cleared customs in an hour. Lol. Shooting some gear porn first thing tomorrow morning, then first pin, Day One of training. Let's get this party started!

[noarch]

Christmas came early! Big ol pack waiting for me at the post office. Gotta admit, I was a tad nervous walking in there to pick it up, but when the guy brought it out I felt pretty dumb. "discreet" is not the word... More like stealth. PSL has it down to a science! There is a reason it cleared customs in an hour. Lol. Shooting some gear porn first thing tomorrow morning, then first pin, Day One of training. Let's get this party started!

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[Thirsty]

First things first, porn as promised:
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First pin(s) today. Into left delt with a 28g 1/2inch slin pin. Smooth as butter, literally couldn't even feel it. Pumped in another one because it was so much fun. So I'm all front-loaded and ready to go. Popped a couple D-bols and we are officially on cycle! Woo Hoo!

This morning weighed in at 218.5. If we can get to 240 by the end of 12 weeks, and settle out at 235 I will be ecstatic. My goal here is to keep everything clean, keep water and fat under control, and make some good lean gains.

[QualityOne]

First things first, porn as promised:
4038

First pin(s) today. Into left delt with a 28g 1/2inch slin pin. Smooth as butter, literally couldn't even feel it. Pumped in another one because it was so much fun. So I'm all front-loaded and ready to go. Popped a couple D-bols and we are officially on cycle! Woo Hoo!

This morning weighed in at 218.5. If we can get to 240 by the end of 12 weeks, and settle out at 235 I will be ecstatic. My goal here is to keep everything clean, keep water and fat under control, and make some good lean gains.

WOW stuff looks great!

[noarch]

Congrats bro...looking forward to seeing how it goes for you.

[Thirsty]

Today is chest day.

Flat bench 4x12
Incline bench 4x12
Decline DB Press 4x12

Cable machine flys:
low 4x12
flat 4x12
high 4x12

Pec Dec / alternating medicine ball push-ups 4x failure

[noarch]

That's a lot of flys! Make sure you keep those rotator cuffs healthy!!

[animal87]

I like to do 2 fly exercises sometimes, my shoulder cant handle it very often tho.

[Thirsty]

That's a lot of flys! Make sure you keep those rotator cuffs healthy!!

I'm warmed up pretty good by then, and luckily never had any injuries there. However, with the extremely massive amounts of weights I'm about to be throwing around, it could be a concern. :a010: HA!

[Thirsty]

Day one of diet is rough... 4 meals in, and I feel like I'm ready to pop. I just hit my previous (maintenance level) daily intake and I have 2 more meals to go. Lets hope the juice sparks some appetite, or I'm going to be forcing it down soon.

[Thirsty]

I like to do 2 fly exercises sometimes, my shoulder cant handle it very often tho.


I've seen your pictures of weight stacks Animal... like having a Mack Truck in each hand! If I was asking my shoulders to handle that kind of load they wouldn't last through 3 exercises either. Luckily I am a mere mortal and they cooperate.

[noarch]

I've seen your pictures of weight stacks Animal... like having a Mack Truck in each hand! If I was asking my shoulders to handle that kind of load they wouldn't last through 3 exercises either. Luckily I am a mere mortal and they cooperate.

Make sure you get your rear delts and upper back going on back and shoulder day to balance out your newly massive pecs and front delts and you should be fine!

Regarding eating....stay on schedule and after a week or two your body will start wanting to be on schedule and you'll find yourself getting hungry right when it's time to eat!

[Thirsty]

Only slight soreness in the injection site. Solid work out today. Felt good.

[kubes]

Only slight soreness in the injection site. Solid work out today. Felt good.

Nice work brother. A little pip is just part of the game.... You will get used to it

[thewatchmen]

great job my friend u look amazing bet ya feel 10000 times better keep up the great work

[Thirsty]

Nice work brother. A little pip is just part of the game.... You will get used to it
WAY less than I was expecting. Thanks for the advice on the slin pin.

[Dick]

Nice transformation brother! Going to keep an eye on this thread. Great work!

[Thirsty]

Thanks Mick! Appreciate you following along. Should be a fun ride!

[Thirsty]

Cardio this morning went well, seemed like my heartrate was up a bit... same resistance and tempo, but BPM was up about 10 beats from normal. Also getting slight "hot flashes" about 10 minutes after knocking back the d-bols. Suppose that means something is working!

Today is Abs and Calves!

Superset: (x4)
Windsheild wipers X 20
Weighted knee raises X 12

Superset (x4)
Cable crunches
Center x 12
Olique x 12 each side

Low Cable crunch (on the big ball thing they keep by the yoga mats)
4 sets till failure

Cable machine twists
at shoulder level 4 x 12
High to low 4 x 12

*If there is anything left in the tank*
weighted incline crunches

Calves
high reps, lower weight
(x6)
Toes straight 20
Toes in 20
Toes out 20

[benoit23]

"big ball thing" HAHA thats what I call it too ... does it have a name?

[Thirsty]

"big ball thing" HAHA thats what I call it too ... does it have a name?

All I know is if you get the timing right, you get to walk into the yoga room during their class. (excuse me ladies...) It is for this reason "big ball thing" sets sometimes get done first!

[Thirsty]

According to the all-knowing internet, we are referring to a "Core Fitness Balance and Stability Ball".

I'm sticking with "Big Ball Thing".

[benoit23]

All I know is if you get the timing right, you get to walk into the yoga room during their class. (excuse me ladies...) It is for this reason "big ball thing" sets sometimes get done first!


According to the all-knowing internet, we are referring to a "Core Fitness Balance and Stability Ball".

I'm sticking with "Big Ball Thing".

HAHA yeah fuck that stucking with big ball thing as well :97JEfHh1TZ1U.jpg:

[noarch]

LOL I always called them Swedish balls....is that weird?

I sit on one at my desk instead of a desk chair.....

[benoit23]

LOL I always called them Swedish balls....is that weird?

I sit on one at my desk instead of a desk chair.....


someone at my old job did that haha ... i'd die i need that back support for my terrible posture :)

[Thirsty]

someone at my old job did that haha ... i'd die i need that back support for my terrible posture :)

I'd be falling off the damn thing constantly. I hear Swedish balls, I'm thinking this:4044

[Thirsty]

Evening work out was great. Heart rate and body continues to run hot, sweaty on ab day is not normally my thing. Great pump on the calves though!

[noarch]

My heart rate went up on cardio when I was on too....

[Thirsty]

Good to know! Thanks buddy. Tried to keep it low, but I felt a like I was having to move in slow motion up there on the elliptical with the soccer moms.

[noarch]

I was running maybe 10-15 beats higher than normal....seemed to go down after a few weeks. But not a bad idea to keep an eye on that and your blood pressure.

[Thirsty]

Exactly the same here. 10-15. I will definitely watch the BP.

[Thirsty]

Still going back and forth on the mast e... If I start it on the last week of Dbol as the effects are dying down, I'll have a 8 - 9 week run. Should give a nice kick on the back end of the test.

[Thirsty]

One of the wonderful brothers has offered to spot me 10mg of mast e to run until I can get a shipment in! I'm going for it! [emoji16]

[Thirsty]

Cardio went better this morning, heart seemed to be back in the normal range. Happy about that.

CT Fletcher shirt - Check
Rob Zombie mixtape - Check

Must be arms day!
Dips 4x12
Curls
Standing straight bar 4x12
Preacher 4x12
2 rounds:
Seated (incline) 2x12
Seated hammer 2x12
High cable 4x12

Superset (x4)
Skull crushers (12) / closed grip chest presses (25)
DB triceps press 4x12
Cable tri pull downs (2 rounds)
angled handle 2x12
flat handle 2x12
rope 2x12

Optional finishing exercise = every other week
drops sets to exhaustion cable machine curls / pushdowns

[studmuffin]

Now that is a hell of a workout!

[Thirsty]

Now that is a hell of a workout!

Thank you brother! Found the the arms like more reps over more weight. I'll switch it up in 4 weeks and do 6-8 rep sets, less exercises, to keep em guessing, then back for the final 4 weeks.

[studmuffin]

I need to work more on higher reps less weight and more sets.

[Thirsty]

Tough to shelf the macho and grab the little weights, but once you get that crazy burning pump on its all good.

[studmuffin]

Yeah I got to keep up the image!lol

[Thirsty]

Awesome workout tonight. One of those days where all the weights feel a little bit lighter. Finished up old school with what I've only ever heard called submarines... Grab the Smith machine, closed grip, leaning forward slightly... duck your head under the bar, and press your tris to push yourself back standing upright. Lower the bar each set till you fall on your face.

[Dick]

Keep killing it bro!!

[Thirsty]

http://videocdn.bodybuilding.com/video/mp4/98000/99112l.mp4

This guy has the right idea... But I prefer to go further under the bar to really put the elbows high and make sure my shoulders stay out of it. I also left my Mr. T chain at home.

[Thirsty]

Keep killing it bro!!
I'm all in man. Now is not the time to go through the motions. Kubes has me digging deep in the bag of tricks! Not sure if I can beat wall sits though!

[Dick]

I'm all in man. Now is not the time to go through the motions. Kubes has me digging deep in the bag of tricks! Not sure if I can beat wall sits though!

Trust me on this brother everytime I eat bad I picture Kubes Avatar lol Kubes on one shoulder and a bigmac on the other. I usually stick with Kubes ;)

[Thirsty]

Hahaha that's awesome. He's haunting me too. Walking around the gym thinking "what would Kubes do... NO ROCK UNTURNED, NO ROCK UNTURNED"

[Dick]

It's pretty crazy what a bunch of good brothers online will do to you while trying to workout or eat. But for the most part it works for me lol

It haunts the shit out of me ;)

[Thirsty]

Amen brother!

[kubes]

Hahaha that's awesome. He's haunting me too. Walking around the gym thinking "what would Kubes do... NO ROCK UNTURNED, NO ROCK UNTURNED"

When you think you cannot do another rep think of me saying in your ear "ok now just five more reps"

[Dick]

When you think you cannot do another rep think of me saying in your ear "ok now just five more reps"

Bro that's already a factor!

[kubes]

Bro that's already a factor!

Those are the money reps that make us grow. We have to push back past what's normal and always take it to the point that we are uncomfortable;)

[Thirsty]

Agreed! What you can't do is all in your head.

[kubes]

Agreed! What you can't do is all in your head.

Yes now we are talking....

[Dick]

Those are the money reps that make us grow. We have to push back past what's normal and always take it to the point that we are uncomfortable;)

Yeap thanks to that angry happy face ;)

[Thirsty]

Woke up this morning actually looking forward to pin number 2... I've been reading that some guys heat their oils to lower the viscosity, help the flow through the pin, and make injection easier. EP test is already super smooth, but I tried it any way. Dunked it in a warm water bath for a few. Only a small change in the speed of the injection, but I couldn't feel anything at all. I think I would rather have some sensation than none, just as a reassurance everything is going to plan. Noticed an increase in appetite last night. Hit me like a train. Out for date night, finished my plate of salmon, spinach, and wild rice and actually ordered another. Then met friends out for drinks (I had water) and ate again... Big ol salad with extra grilled chicken. No longer worried about getting the calories in. Now worried about my grocery bill, and refrigerator storage capacity.

[Thirsty]

Today is leg day.
Squats 4*8
Front squats 4*8
Leg press pyramid of pain
(Increase weight after each set, the decrease on the way back down) 50/40/30/20/10/20/30/40/50 reps. As you work through, start with feet high and wide on the plate, move them every 10 reps, low and together, middle wide, etc. I find each position works a different area, and gives a nice whole leg noodle effect upon completion.
*calf Presses between every set x10
Leg curls 4x12
Leg extensions 4x12
Wild card... May force myself to do lunges, or goblet squats, or wall sits, or some other nonsense as a finishing exercise, since the "what are you training" thread has me inspired to dig deep and mix it up a little.

[Thirsty]

Taking advantage of the awesome weather. Little morning cardio.

[kubes]

Nice bro! I like to take my dog out for walks in the am to get in the extra cardio

[Thirsty]

Beats gym cardio any day.

[kubes]

For sure brother

[Thirsty]

Man... Legs were worn out today after my hike / jog this morning. Powered through and got the reps in, just not at the weights I would have liked. Calves were SUPER tight, lots of stretching and some time with the foam roller unknotted them enough to make it through.

[noarch]

Sounds like you're killing it dude. Keep it up.

[kubes]

Man... Legs were worn out today after my hike / jog up South Mountain this morning. Powered through and got the reps in, just not at the weights I would have liked. Calves were SUPER tight, lots of stretching and some time with the foam roller unknotted them enough to make it through.

You ever get a massage? I do the deep tissue massage every other month and it helps a ton

[Thirsty]

You ever get a massage? I do the deep tissue massage every other month and it helps a ton
Never have. Great idea though. I'll look into it.

[kubes]

Never have. Great idea though. I'll look into it.

It makes you a little sick cause of all the toxins getting into your blood but after a day you feel amazing

[Thirsty]

I'm guessing you have to go to somewhere that specializes in that kind of thing, not the spa I send my girlfriend to when I get in trouble?

[Dick]

Looks like a pretty awesome hike ! More than likely I would have pitched a tent ;)

[kubes]

I'm guessing you have to go to somewhere that specializes in that kind of thing, not the spa I send my girlfriend to when I get in trouble?

Yeah you have to go somewhere that's has a person certified. My wife's dad does it for me :)

[Thirsty]

Send him over!

[kubes]

Send him over!

Lmao....

[studmuffin]

That is a great view and cardio run! I live in the hill country and love the terrain.

[Thirsty]

Legs and lower back are dead today, but hauled my ass to the gym for cardio. Loosened everything up pretty good, but only a temporary fix. Tightened up on the drive home and had a very hard time getting out of the car.

[kubes]

Legs and lower back are dead today, but hauled my ass to the gym for cardio. Loosened everything up pretty good, but only a temporary fix. Tightened up on the drive home and had a very hard time getting out of the car.

I have to alk on the treadmill after working my legs to loosen them up

[Thirsty]

I have to alk on the treadmill after working my legs to loosen them up
Your massage idea sounds really good about now!

[kubes]

Your massage idea sounds really good about now!

It helps a ton brother! Even if you don't get the deep tissue massage done any massage is going to feel great. Well worth the time

[studmuffin]

I am very lucky to have a wife that will give me a massage anytime I ask.

[Dick]

I am very lucky to have a wife that will give me a massage anytime I ask.

I second that bro!

[Thirsty]

Man... Mine can give me root canals. So there's that.

[kubes]

Man... Mine can give me root canals. So there's that.

Yikes.....

[Thirsty]

Rough night, legs and lower back absolutely killing me, every time I rolled over they hurt like hell and woke me up. Girlfriend was sick, up all night coughing and digging around for nyquil, dog decided to join the fun and puked up dinner at the foot of the bed... Great way to start off the week. Anyways, made it into the gym and got cardio in. Pretty determined not to let fat gain creep up while adding in all these extra calories. Despite my attempts to wait for Wednesday for my weekly weigh in, I peeked this morning. Up a bit, which I suppose is good and bad, I'm assuming first two weeks it's almost all water weight from the DBol, so I'm making note of it, anticipating losing it after my last pills at the end of December. I'm hoping my addition Mast-e this week will help keep the water retention down and PCT losses to a minimum.

[studmuffin]

Hope things get better for you today.

[Thirsty]

Hope things get better for you today.

Thanks Brother. I'm good, the gym is my happy place!

Schedule got a little shuffled around last week so I'll be doing Shoulders today, Back tomorrow, Chest Wednesday.

Shoulder day:
Warm up:
Cable shoulder rotation

DB presses 4x12
Behind the head military press 4x12 (this felt strong last week, so I'm going to up the weight today and see how that goes.)

Superset x4
Cable Rear Delt fly x12
Face Pull x12

superset x4
DB lateral raises x12
ez bar upright row x12
ez bar front raises x12

Shrugs - I do these on the smith machine, 12 front, 12 back, add a plate, etc. then back down.

*finishing exercise - not sure what you call them, but wedge a straight bar into a corner, load up a couple 45s, (just like you would a t-bar row) move from one shoulder, up over your head, to the other, keeping the bar as far from your ears as possible. great for your core as well.

[Thirsty]

Great workout today. Extra reps, extra sets, extra weight. Felt like I had tons of energy. Looked up and was almost two hours in, and didn't want to leave!

[kubes]

Great workout today. Extra reps, extra sets, extra weight. Felt like I had tons of energy. Looked up and was almost two hours in, and didn't want to leave!

Sounds like the great start to your cycle!

[Thirsty]

Sounds like the great start to your cycle!
Something kicked in today for sure. Great pump, just felt strong. If I can have a couple workouts like this a week I don't even care about gains. That was just plain fun!

[kubes]

Something kicked in today for sure. Great pump, just felt strong. If I can have a couple workouts like this a week I don't even care about gains. That was just plain fun!

Yes... We all love that feeling at the beginning of our cycles

[Thirsty]

Yes... We all love that feeling at the beginning of our cycles
Just the beginning? But I don't wanna get off this ride! Guess I'll make the most of it while I can.

[kubes]

Just the beginning? But I don't wanna get off this ride! Guess I'll make the most of it while I can.

Do not leave any rocks unturned brother. Get the most out of everything!!! ;)

[Thirsty]

Yes sir!

[kubes]

I like those supersets. Do you ever do some drop sets to just totally fatigue the muscle?

[Thirsty]

Sure do... Try to work them in on groups I'm focusing on every other week. Trainer I was working with likes them, but was of the opinion that they do not lead directly to mass gain.

[Thirsty]

Another good morning of cardio, heart rate has settled down, and I'm just about back to normal on then intensity levels which is nice. It was a bit annoying to have to back off the resistance and not work up a sweat in the morning. Energy levels are through the roof, feeling awesome. Pin #3 was this morning. I'm getting good at this delt injection thing. Quick, easy, painless. Not sure what kind of oils PSL is using, but this Test-e is super light, making these teeny tiny "slin pins" an option. We shall see what the Mast-e looks like. Should be here today. Weight is creeping up, official numbers tomorrow, but it's looking to be around 5-6 pounds gain. Midsection is looking a little on the puffy side with the D-bol water retention. Hopefully the Mast will knock that down a bit in the next couple weeks. Starting to get the urge to up the cardio to get that ab definition back, even though I know it will only slow me down in the long run. I think I'm ok with it now, but if I still resemble a water balloon a week after coming off the D-Bol, I see a hard one week cut in my future.

Today is BACK DAY!!!!!!!
My favorite.

pullups 4 x 12, last to exhaustion.
superset 4x
lat pull downs (behind the head) x12
straight arm pull downs x 12

DB rows
T-Bar rows

Hammer Strength Lat machines
High 4x12
Mid 4x12
Low 4x12

Straight leg deads 4x8 **may try some of the rack pulls that are popular with some of the guys here.

[Thirsty]

Ended up with rack pulls, AND straight leg deads. Lower back has been my weak point since getting back in the weight room. I've been gentle on it to avoid injury, but I figure now is the time to build muscle, right?

[kubes]

Ended up with rack pulls, AND straight leg deads. Lower back has been my weak point since getting back in the weight room. I've been gentle on it to avoid injury, but I figure now is the time to build muscle, right?

Yes just maintain very strict form bro

[noarch]

Ended up with rack pulls, AND straight leg deads. Lower back has been my weak point since getting back in the weight room. I've been gentle on it to avoid injury, but I figure now is the time to build muscle, right?

Straight leg deads are more hamstrings and butt for me....

[Thirsty]

Straight leg deads are more hamstrings and butt for me....
Agreed, and both are strong, but in order to keep form I find my lower back carries some of the load, and is a weak point. My thinking was to train it from a kinder, gentler angle to start to bring it up to speed. I hope to change this up to something that better isolates those muscles in 3 weeks when I transition to lower weight, higher reps. Anyone have thoughts on this?

[noarch]

Weighted hypers? Bend at the waist instead of at the hips ( which would hit your glutes more)... Motion should be like rolling up and down, the opposite of a crunch motion. Should feel your lower back working there.

[Thirsty]

Thanks brother, I'll give them a shot next week.

[Thirsty]

Official weigh in was this morning, after one week of Test-E @ 625 / week and D-Bol @ 40mg / day.

222.6! Up from 218.5 day one. 4 Lbs of (I'm guessing) mostly water retention. I'm hoping for a post PCT lean mass gain of 1.5 pounds a week or 18 pounds, so I think I'm on track to make that happen. Diet has been solid, gym time has been at 100%. Overall I feel amazing, great energy, solid reps on the weights. Cardio is feeling good, able to push and stay in the fat burn zone without my heart rate acting up.
Now that I've been through a full week of the workouts, I will back off the daily posts and check in only when I change something, or have something significant to report.
Thanks to all you guys for following along and giving advice. Much appreciated my brothers!

Thirsty

[skyrim]

Today was back and triceps.

Wide grip lat pull downs: 15, 12, 10, 8, 8, 6
Bent over barbell rows: 10, 10, 10, 8, 6
T bar rows: 10, 10, 8, 8
reverse grip barbell rows super set with barbell shrugs: 10, 10, 10
Dumbell shrugs super set with dumbell rows:8, 8, 8

Tricep cable pushdowns: 15, 15, 15
rope cable push downs: 12, 12, 10
skull crushers super set with narrow bench presses: 12, 12, 12
bench dips: 10, 10, 10

[Thirsty]

Goodies arrived at my door today! Couldn't help myself and jumped right into the mast-e before I thought to take a picture. Oops. Damn we have some quality sponsors here! Dio's gear is glass clear and super clean, so smooth it was drawn and injected with a 28g slin pin. Life is so good. [emoji2]

[Dick]

Awesome bro looking forward to hearing about their Mast!

[kubes]

Goodies arrived at my door today! Couldn't help myself and jumped right into the mast-e before I thought to take a picture. Oops. Damn we have some quality sponsors here! Dio's gear is glass clear and super clean, so smooth it was drawn and injected with a 28g slin pin. Life is so good. [emoji2]

Looks good brother but i wouldnt draw with a slin pin. Draw with a bigger pin and then backload the slin pin so you do not dull the needle ;)

[Thirsty]

Looks good brother but i wouldnt draw with a slin pin. Draw with a bigger pin and then backload the slin pin so you do not dull the needle ;)
^^^^ Correct. However, I wasn't expecting it to arrive so quickly, and I don't keep my kit at the house. Had to improvise with what I could scrounge from the medicine cabinet. Not ideal for sure but I got excited.

[kubes]

^^^^ Correct. However, I wasn't expecting it to arrive so quickly, and I don't keep my kit at the house. Had to improvise with what I could scrounge from the medicine cabinet. Not ideal for sure but I got excited.

Lol I am sure it's fine bro but you may get a little pip

[Dick]

Ya your fine lol my lady draws and pins with the same slin pin.

[Thirsty]

I ain't scared! Very little pip so far on the test, interested to see what different brand, different compound has in store.

[noarch]

Jealous!!

[Thirsty]

Now to figure out what to do with the test-p freebie that stowed away in my pack...

[Dick]

Now to figure out what to do with the test-p freebie that stowed away in my pack...

Pin it ;)

[Thirsty]

Good call Mick! Lol

[Dick]

I'm always here for ya brother LoL

[deathstar]

Just saw your before and after pictures. Awesome transformation bro

[Thirsty]

Thanks brothers! Stick around and see how it all turns out after this cycle. I'm really looking forward to it.
Crushed chest today... Went to do my pushup finishing sets and landed square on my face and laid there like a beached whale for a sec. Nothing left to give. Tried to pull out a half assed yoga stretch and avoid looking like an idiot. Pretty sure that did nothing to help the situation.

[studmuffin]

I love it when you just cannot do 1 more!

[Thirsty]

Always nice when your girl notices some changes. Mine has a funny way of saying it, but I'll take what I can get!

"You've been working hard in the gym huh? Your shoulders are almost back to where they were before you did all that stupid cardio..."

Gotta love her.

I'm REALLY liking this Mast-e. Makes me feel absolutely great. Attitude, energy, sex drive. Been doing some more reading up on the compound, and have decided to extend it past the end of the Test cycle and into PCT. My thinking is that since it acts as an AI, it should not mess with anything going on in PCT, and will help any estrogen rebound after the test runs it course. The drying effect should be keeping water retention, and Post losses to a minimum. Also found that a lot of guys have found a "re-comp" effect on it too, so fat loss muscle gain, no net change in weight. Should I happen to be carrying a few extra pounds at the end of the cycle, I would rather have something to help retain muscle if I decide to hammer out some cardio and tighten back up in PCT and recovery stage (and keep those shoulders!). Having a blast, already noticing changes. Can't wait to see where I'm at when it's all said and done.

[studmuffin]

I have never tried Mast e or p. Is e much better than p? Because I have some p in my stash.

[Thirsty]

Having no first hand experience with P, I can't say. According to the interwebs, the difference is (like the different flavors of test) in the ester length, therefor P will have a much shorter half life and will need to be pinned more often, otherwise it's the same base compound, and should behave in the same way.
**Vets, please correct me here if I'm off base here**
However it seems like some people respond better to different ester lengths, just depends on how your body takes to it.

I opted for the E, as I'm running long ester Test as well, and it works for my injection schedule. I front-loaded both, took about a week for me to notice the Test kick in, but the Mast hit me on day two.

[studmuffin]

You hit it right on Brother! I knew about the esters being long and short. But did not think how different they affect people, tren e affects me different than tren a. Why? I have no idea! Even though they are long and short esters of the same compound.

[Thirsty]

I've got some test-p I think I'm going to try when I get back from Christmas vacation. Will load up to carry me over, then 10 days later maybe I'll pin the P, run it for a couple weeks to see if I notice any difference. Or just stash it away for a rainy day...

[Thirsty]

tren e affects me different than tren a. Why? I have no idea! Even though they are long and short esters of the same compound.

Have you tried different esters of any other compounds? Could you favor test p and mast e? Or if your body liked prop, is it the same across the board?

[Dick]

Same here SM I do not like Tren A but I love Tren E. Both compounds are totally different.

[kubes]

Have you tried different esters of any other compounds? Could you favor test p and mast e? Or if your body liked prop, is it the same across the board?

There are pros and cons to both. Long esters have a longer active and half life but less pinning. Short esters have to be pinned more often. Short esters often will raise hematocrit level faster as well.

[kubes]

Same here SM I do not like Tren A but I love Tren E. Both compounds are totally different.

The nice thing with tren a is if sides come up you can get out fats but with tren e you do not have to run a s much as it builds in your system cause of the acive life of the ester

[Dick]

It's different bro it really is, I shoot 400 mg of E I am good, I shoot 400mg of A I am in for a ride.

[kubes]

It's different bro it really is, I shoot 400 mg of E I am good, I shoot 400mg of A I am in for a ride.

Well yes its different with tren a you are absorbing all of it in 3 days were with E it has about an 8-12 day active life. The A would seem like twice as much ;)

[Dick]

Well yes its different with tren a you are absorbing all of it in 3 days were with E it has about an 8-12 day active life. The A would seem like twice as much ;)

Ya I will stick with E, I said I am staying away from Tren from now on but I am not.

Next Cycle soon will have Tren all over it lmao.

[kubes]

Ya I will stick with E, I said I am staying away from Tren from now on but I am not.

Next Cycle soon will have Tren all over it lmao.

Its a love hate relationship. I have grown more and more fond of the NPP. Just love the way it makes you feel

[Dick]

NPP is cool I would rather go Deca though I like longer acting esters.

[kubes]

NPP is cool I would rather go Deca though I like longer acting esters.

I like the almost no water retention with npp

[Thirsty]

I like the almost no water retention with npp
This seems like a huge plus! More kept gains, better appearance while you are on. Big reason I added in Mast.

[Dick]

I'm a weirdo I love the water plus I like pinning twice a week instead of ED or EOD.

[Thirsty]

Weirdo indeed!

[kubes]

This seems like a huge plus! More kept gains, better appearance while you are on. Big reason I added in Mast.

Yes yes I love mast too. The only downside is the acne I get from mast. Are you running mast e or a?

[kubes]

I'm a weirdo I love the water plus I like pinning twice a week instead of ED or EOD.

I don't mind the eod inject. I use a slin pin backloaded and pin quads. Almost no pip. With test I always run a long ester though

[Thirsty]

I have mast-e.

[Dick]

Weirdo indeed!

It only goes to my stomach bro , everywhere else is pretty lean. I kinda get a beer belly and don't mind it at all lmao!

[kubes]

It only goes to my stomach bro , everywhere else is pretty lean. I kinda get a beer belly and don't mind it at all lmao!

No beer belly Mick ;)

[Thirsty]

That's the one place I'm trying to stay lean!

[Dick]

No beer belly Mick ;)

Damn it!

[kubes]

Damn it!

Lmao...

[PAiN]

Great log!

Looking forward to following along bro. Reps!

[studmuffin]

Thanks for the explanation Kubes!

[Thirsty]

Calm and strong feeling on this cycle continues. Girlfriend is on one today, usually would get to me, but my level of composure is surprisingly better than ever. Like the opposite of roid rage.

[kubes]

Calm and strong feeling on this cycle continues. Girlfriend is on one today, usually would get to me, but my level of composure is surprisingly better than ever. Like the opposite of roid rage.

Roid rage is way over exaggerated! When my test levels are higher I have much more patients

[Thirsty]

Good to hear. I was a touch worried, as I have to stay cool under pressure at work. I was just waiting for the first time my staff to screw up...

[kubes]

Good to hear. I was a touch worried, as I have to stay cool under pressure at work. I was just waiting for the first time my staff to screw up...

I think you will find it easier to stay cool especially if you stay away from Tren

[Thirsty]

Yeah... Seems like lots of guys have a love / hate with tren. I'll stick with what's working for me until it doesn't work anymore.

[kubes]

Yeah... Seems like lots of guys have a love / hate with tren. I'll stick with what's working for me until it doesn't work anymore.

No need to mess with tren till your closer to maxing out your gains from other compounds. Tren is amazing for some but a nightmare for others

[Thirsty]

So far only thing I would change with my current cycle is swapping out dbol for something with less water retention. Liking the gains, but not a fan of the puffiness, and dreading the losses when I go off.

[noarch]

So far only thing I would change with my current cycle is swapping out dbol for something with less water retention. Liking the gains, but not a fan of the puffiness, and dreading the losses when I go off.

I went with tbol on my first cycle for the same reason. Tho everyone says your ai should cut the bloat....not what you're finding?

[kubes]

So far only thing I would change with my current cycle is swapping out dbol for something with less water retention. Liking the gains, but not a fan of the puffiness, and dreading the losses when I go off.

The idea is just to kick start your cycle with it. If you are gaining to much water lower the dose. You are running an ai right?

[Thirsty]

I like the kick start, don't get me wrong! Not sure if it's too much, but it's some. Up 4 pounds week one, looking like maybe another 6 this week. Assuming record breaking muscle growth of 1.5 - 2 pounds a week, I'm still holding six (ish) pounds of extra water? I am running adex at .25 eod. And 600mg / week Mast, which is supposed to me a mild ai as well. Still looking lean, so I'm OK with it for now, just not looking forward to watching the scale drop when I come off.

[Thirsty]

50mg / day on the dbol. Water retention should even out after week 2 yes?

[kubes]

50mg / day on the dbol. Water retention should even out after week 2 yes?

Are your Adex or aromasin and how much?

[Thirsty]

Adex .25 eod

[kubes]

Adex .25 eod

You might need to bump it to .5 eod and see if that helps. Dbol is very well known to cause water retention

[Dick]

Like Kubes says I would bump it up. Dbol always makes me up my AI.

[Thirsty]

Thanks Dr. Kubes! And Mick, MD. So am I correct that anything over 2 pounds a week is going to be extra water at this point? I'm confident fat is staying even.

[kubes]

Thanks Dr. Kubes! And Mick, MD. So am I correct that anything over 2 pounds a week is going to be extra water at this point? I'm confident fat is staying even.

Hard to say for sure but 2 lbs each week would be some serious gains. I try to gain 5-7 lbs each cycle but my nutrition is super clean :)

[Thirsty]

I'm on the clean diet plan as well. I leave the food scale in the drawer, but I have a real good understanding of the diet, and how my body responds to it. Do you think 15 pounds retained lean mass is too ambitious a goal for my first rodeo? I suppose everyone is different, but that doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility based on first-time logs I've dug up? I suppose only time will tell!

[kubes]

I'm on the clean diet plan as well. I leave the food scale in the drawer, but I have a real good understanding of the diet, and how my body responds to it. Do you think 15 pounds retained lean mass is too ambitious a goal for my first rodeo? I suppose everyone is different, but that doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility based on first-time logs I've dug up? I suppose only time will tell!

If this is your first cycle you might be able to do that but 10 is probably on the safe side

[Thirsty]

OK. Awesome! I'll definitely up the adex then. Too fast for two weeks. Next cycle... No dbol!

[kubes]

OK. Awesome! I'll definitely up the adex then. Too fast for two weeks. Next cycle... No dbol!

Honestly i would rather kick start with test prop

[Thirsty]

Honestly i would rather kick start with test prop

Never would have thought of that! Suppose it makes sense, as it will get your levels there faster. I suppose it depends on where I end up, if my next cycle is a cut, or a bulk. I still like the idea of an oral (or short 6 week run of injectable perhaps) to kick things off, but will go with TBol or Var depending on what direction I need to be headed.

[kubes]

Never would have thought of that! Suppose it makes sense, as it will get your levels there faster. I suppose it depends on where I end up, if my next cycle is a cut, or a bulk. I still like the idea of an oral (or short 6 week run of injectable perhaps) to kick things off, but will go with TBol or Var depending on what direction I need to be headed.

Running test prop you could kick start the first 4 weeks and run it the last 3 so you could start your pct 3 days from the last pin rather then waiting 14 days for the ester to clear

[Thirsty]

Running test prop you could kick start the first 4 weeks and run it the last 3 so you could start your pct 3 days from the last pin rather then waiting 14 days for the ester to clear

Oh, I like that idea! Makes perfect sense. Dio hooked me up with some Prop 100 as a freebie with my Mast order. I am going to run it the last three weeks for sure. Funny how everything falls into place. Man, this "simple" first run has sure gotten more interesting as we go along. Thanks again for all your expertise guys, I really appreciate it!

[benoit23]

Oh, I like that idea! Makes perfect sense. Dio hooked me up with some Prop 100 as a freebie with my Mast order. I am going to run it the last three weeks for sure. Funny how everything falls into place. Man, this "simple" first run has sure gotten more interesting as we go along. Thanks again for all your expertise guys, I really appreciate it!

Dio is a mind reader I swear haha those freebies always come in handy :) that'll work out perfectly for you!

[Thirsty]

Dio is a mind reader I swear haha those freebies always come in handy :) that'll work out perfectly for you!


No joke! Can't tell you how happy I am with that green gear, and Dionysus Labs in general. Reminds me, I need to get the order in for the rest of my Mast-e before his awesome sale runs out.

[benoit23]

No joke! Can't tell you how happy I am with that green gear, and Dionysus Labs in general. Reminds me, I need to get the order in for the rest of my Mast-e before his awesome sale runs out.

Get after it bro! Glad you're lovin it!

[Thirsty]

Ok, rest of my order is placed, and we are all stocked up to finish this cycle out strong! Grabbed the rest of the Mast to take me through 14 weeks, and a little test-p to fill out the last 3 weeks of my new jump start PCT plan. Now all that's left is a bunch of lifting and eating!

[studmuffin]

Sounds like a great cycle Brother!

[Thirsty]

Sounds like a great cycle Brother!

I'm enjoying it!

as it stands now:

Week 1-6 Dbol @ 40mg
Week 1-9 Test-E @ 250mg E3D
Week 9-12 Test-P @ ???mg ??? (Haven't got to that yet)
Week 2-16 Mast-E @ 200mg EOD
Week 1-13 Adex @ .5 tab EOD
Week 1-13 HCG @ 250 mcg E3D

[Thirsty]

Upping the dose on the Adex to .5 EOD is having an effect already. Feels like bp is dropping, and I was up pissing all night. Down 2 pounds as of this morning. Bloat around my stomach is noticeably down. Going to keep Adex here until we finish up with D-bol, then re-evaluate. Looking forward to tomorrow's weigh in, will probably be in the 230 neighborhood. Looking pretty lean still, and definitely growing some mass in my chest, which has been a hard area for me to build in the past. Finding a few new veins making an appearance as well! Overall really happy with progress. Will post actual weight, and maybe a progress pic tomorrow.

Chest day today. Recovery time between sets is quick, and finished out full 12 on last sets where I usually am racked at 8-9. Good strong day.

[Thirsty]

Official weigh in this morning. 227! So up 4 from last week. I was actually was at 231 earlier, but since upping my AI I've shed a bit of water and feel much better all around. Still 8 pounds in weeks is a bit more than I would like. Planning on losing 6 of it in PCT, unless the Mast can dry me out in the next 12 weeks.

[benoit23]

Good work brother!

[kubes]

Official weigh in this morning. 227! So up 4 from last week. I was actually was at 231 earlier, but since upping my AI I've shed a bit of water and feel much better all around. Still 8 pounds in weeks is a bit more than I would like. Planning on losing 6 of it in PCT, unless the Mast can dry me out in the next 12 weeks.

Nice work bro

[noarch]

Interesting to hear your results so far. I had a rough time dialing in my AI, but it sounds like you're responding really well to changes in dosage. Are you using Adex or aromasin?

[Thirsty]

Interesting to hear your results so far. I had a rough time dialing in my AI, but it sounds like you're responding really well to changes in dosage. Are you using Adex or aromasin?

Estrogen and water seem like a fragile balance for me, I think recently losing all the fat weight has my body still trying to find equilibrium. I've got Adex running now, and yes, it seems to be working quickly. Extra sodium from Turkey day might have been a contributor as well. Either way, hopefully that's behind me and we can focus on more important things... like lifting up heavy things and then putting them back down.

[Thirsty]

Down another 2 pounds in 2 days, I can really see everything drying out after the AI dosing change. REALLY happy to lose the water balloon look.

[kubes]

Down another 2 pounds in 2 days, I can really see everything drying out after the AI dosing change. REALLY happy to lose the water balloon look.

Nice work it's always fun when you start to lean out

[Thirsty]

Start of week 3, Still going strong. Noticeable changes in shoulders, chest, and quads. Girlfriend is ecstatic... keeps talking about how I'm growing, feeling my arms and shoulders. Nice to know it's not all placebo effect and wishful thinking in the mirror. Been doing a fair bit of cardio, 5-6 mile hikes on the weekends, bumped the morning fasted cardio up by 15 mins. Mostly because I'm not used to eating like I am. Weight continues to climb, so I will continue pushing the cardio until I even out, then back off to fuel muscle growth. Waist is staying constant, using the belt loop method. Everything else feels like it's firming up. I've got another 3 weeks of D-bol left, and I'm looking forward to shedding more water and looking nice and lean when I dry out. Legs are showing improved muscle definition, arms are veins on top of veins. Really happy with the way things are going so far. Feels like Test may be coming on, face has been oily, couple zits showed up overnight. Otherwise no sides, other than feeling great all the time, having tons of energy. I wake up ready to go, and am sleeping like a rock. Life is good!

[studmuffin]

Sounds like you have hit your sweet spot! Glad things are working together for you Brother.