Forecasting baby balls

[Theone189]

My Bros, I need some insight from you guys regarding this subject.

The last cycle I did was almost exactly a year ago. It was for 10 weeks, once every 6 days a blend of the following:

125mg tren E
125mg mast E
125mg test Phenylpropionate
125mg test Testosterone Decanoate

Now that I know a bit better i know this shouldve been admistered more than just once every 6 days. Now around weeks 8-10 I really started to notice shrinkage. There might have been some between weeks 6-8 but it was more towards the end of weeks 8-10 that I was like “what the f@#k!”. I don’t think it was bad before week 8 because immediately after the cycle I told myself my next cycle would be 7 weeks because that seemed to be my "sweet spot" in avoiding “shrinkage”. I have since returned to normal( or at least I want to think so).

Now is there any way around this without HCG? Do you guys think the Tren made my testes shrink quicker?

I know once your system realizes you have too much test in your body it will shut down production and after the shutdown “shrinkage” usually follows. Now if I were to find out my natural test levels and under dose myself with test while on oral primo, will my testes stay somewhat active and delay the “shrinkage”?

Also, noting the amount of substance I took a week with the duration I took it for in my last cycle, do you guys think 50mg test prop EOD with 100mg primo oral ED for 4 weeks would cause shrinkage?

I know there is nothing wrong with small balls, I just like mine the way they are lol

Thanks bros and happy holidays

[studmuffin]

I like HCG because it works well for me but if you do not want to use HCG someone can chime in and answer your question.

[Hatefactory]

I may be incorrect but the shrinkage is due to the fact that you have enough exogenous testosterone to shut down natural production. Your body pretty much is telling your sack to shrivel up because there is to much test present as is

Point is that once you hit a dose of high enough exogenous test your nuts will shrivel up tegardless

[Theone189]

So what would happen if i put in just under "enough" exogenous testosterone?

[TheTrain]

Doesn't matter, ANY exogenous test will shut you down. I've never noticed shrinkage until last year after being on almost 2 years

[Colstreamer]

I've never had my balls noticeably shrink until around week 8 and then HCG usually plumps them up again. This is partly why I prefer to keep my cycles short. If you're worried about ball shrinkage but don't want to use HCG on cycle, why not stick to short esters and orals? That's what I do. The only long ester compound I use these days is primo and I've never had any issues with it. Having said that, I've been accused of wasting juice with pussy doses but I'm happy with my results and I don't get many problems.

[kubes]

Some notice shrinkage and some don't. Any androgens added to your system will cause suppression of lh and fsh. The work around to maintain some testicular function is administering hcg and or hmg. The mimics the natural pulse of the 2 hormones stimulating the testies to function during the administration of exogenous androgens. This also makes pct much smoother because the testies haven't been sitting almost dormant during your cycle. Your serms for pct will help stimulate lh function and that is the fastest hormone to recover

[animal87]

Mine shrink a little on cycle and come back pretty much all the way off. I imagine with enough time its prob. unavoidable to some degree.

[Hatefactory]

Honestly bro your best bet is to use hcg. It's cheap, effective and makes EVERYTHING better on cycle and coming off.

I will never run another cycle without it and my boys are thanking me

[enrod]

What's your concern with hcg op? Subq shots with HCG are easier than pinning gear and hurt less. HCG is what you are looking for.

[sorude]

my balls started shrinking within the 2nd week, no way to stop it. HCG will slow it down though

[chrisotpherm]

Some notice shrinkage and some don't. Any androgens added to your system will cause suppression of lh and fsh. The work around to maintain some testicular function is administering hcg and or hmg. The mimics the natural pulse of the 2 hormones stimulating the testies to function during the administration of exogenous androgens. This also makes pct much smoother because the testies haven't been sitting almost dormant during your cycle. Your serms for pct will help stimulate lh function and that is the fastest hormone to recover
100% spot on. Without hcg on a cycle or while cruising, your testicular atrophy will not return period. I've been there and done that and have tried everything known in our society and hcg is the ball bring back hero.

[Barhead]

would you use HCG the whole cycle length?

[Blergs]

I could care less to tell you the truth lol.
I say "im on a male form of birthcontrol so they shrink a bit since turned off "
plus she aint complaining thats for sure ; )
maybe I shoulda got into porn i unno : / lol jk

[Blergs]

would you use HCG the whole cycle length?

some do. I just rec it the last 4-5 weeks of cycle leading up to BUT NOT into PCT, at 500iu 2x a week.

[Thirsty]

I like the thinking that keeping them awake and pumping the entire time is going to lead to a quicker recovery and shorter PCT than trying to bring them back from the dead. HGC is cheap and available, so why not?

[spoolin]

Apparantly, running HCG during cycle can also spike estrogen up and make it hard to keep it under control. It happened to my buddy and he had all kinds of issues. This is the reason why I don't bother with it. Why worry about how big your testes are during a cycle? I actually like the little bit of shrinkage, they don't get in the way and crushed by my legs as bad any longer. LOL

[enrod]

I've never had an issue with estrogen from hcg. If you are sensitive to estrogen from hcg it's probably 10x worse from test, in which case an AI would be recommended prior to the cycle.

[chrisotpherm]

Apparantly, running HCG during cycle can also spike estrogen up and make it hard to keep it under control. It happened to my buddy and he had all kinds of issues. This is the reason why I don't bother with it. Why worry about how big your testes are during a cycle? I actually like the little bit of shrinkage, they don't get in the way and crushed by my legs as bad any longer. LOL
Lol.

[Theone189]

Have they returned back to normal completely? Or is it one of those things like every time you get shrinkage you lose a little bit of your nuts permanently?

[Blergs]

HCG also causes anxiety in many... just putting it out there. why? not sure but its commonly reported. long cycles sure. cycles under 14 wks i dont press it as much...

[Hatefactory]

HCG also causes anxiety in many... just putting it out there. why? not sure but its commonly reported. long cycles sure. cycles under 14 wks i dont press it as much...

I've never had that experience but I have Deff heard of others who report of that and being more emotional