Testosterone Levels Low on cruise

[ironjulius]

so i came off cycle 4 weeks ago and been cruising with 200-250mg test a week. I went to the doctor yesterday to rewrite my TRT script and he did bloodwork and my total testosterone was at 234 ng/dL and i took my last shot of 200mg last Thursday. Doesnt that seem very low 5 days after a shot? i havent been using my pharm grade watson. im wondering if my gear might be underdosed or can that just happen after cycle while on cruise?

[ironjulius]

well im thinking if the test E&C is bunk then probably the deca and tren is as well. my T levels on watson 100mg a week are 3x higher than this BS

[Tazzzz]

How did you feel on cycle? Were gains good--average--poor? Does seem a bit low.

[studmuffin]

Who is the sponsor that you purchased gear from?

[ironjulius]

How did you feel on cycle? Were gains good--average--poor? Does seem a bit low.
gains were good on cycle but it was with a different source. the test E i got from that source was good but the tren was not. i ran some prohormones with it to kickstart and ended the cycle with a PH

[ironjulius]

Who is the sponsor that you purchased gear from?
not going to put any names out there yet maybe it was just that vial or someone can give me a good reason why the levels could be low

[ironjulius]

im going to pin 2ml which would be 800mg of test and endure the PIP to see if i notice any increase

[Tazzzz]

im going to pin 2ml which would be 800mg of test and endure the PIP to see if i notice any increase

Take your 2ml/800mg & add 1ml of carrier oil to it. That will bring it to 267mg/ml---a lot easier to take. You can split your pin sites too if a 3ml shot is too much in 1 site. Just a thought bro.

[bdad]

so i came off cycle 4 weeks ago and been cruising with 200-250mg test a week. I went to the doctor yesterday to rewrite my TRT script and he did bloodwork and my total testosterone was at 234 ng/dL and i took my last shot of 200mg last Thursday. Doesnt that seem very low 5 days after a shot? i havent been using my pharm grade watson. im wondering if my gear might be underdosed or can that just happen after cycle while on cruise?

Sounds like bunk test. What was your E2?

[Tazzzz]

gains were good on cycle but it was with a different source. the test E i got from that source was good but the tren was not. i ran some prohormones with it to kickstart and ended the cycle with a PH

Since your pharm grade gear puts your numbers much higher at a lower dose & you know some of your gear is bunk, it may well be your cruise gear is bunk too.

[wook]

Just some food for thought... I came off my last 3 month cruise on BNSF Test Cyp 250--250 mgs per week and my test levels at the end were just under 900! I'm old too! mid 40's... 234 is low IMO!

[ironjulius]

Sounds like bunk test. What was your E2?
for some reason he did not check for E2 but it has always been good in the past

[Dick]

That is pretty low bro, are you running the Supertest?

[animal87]

If it was 5 days after the last shot it should be on the down slope but that does seem low.

[ironjulius]

ok i thought about it and there is a chance that my last cycle was complete junk and my levels were in the tank 20 weeks but i felt great with libido as high as its ever been. the past 2 weeks i have felt tired but still horny so im going to stick 2ml of another vial and see if i get to feeling better. i hope this is the case

[ironjulius]

or any other suggestions on what i could do?

[ironjulius]

4333

[craigsmith]

ok i thought about it and there is a chance that my last cycle was complete junk and my levels were in the tank 20 weeks but i felt great with libido as high as its ever been. the past 2 weeks i have felt tired but still horny so im going to stick 2ml of another vial and see if i get to feeling better. i hope this is the case

Maybe a placebo affect.

[ironjulius]

Maybe a placebo affect.

That is posible and why im doing whatever i can to see whats going on

[ironjulius]

going in for more blood work today. wish me luck

[Clark Kent]

Damn thats not just low to be on test thats low period! NG

[ironjulius]

Damn thats not just low to be on test thats low period! NG
yes it sucks and i felt like shit. i should have results back in a day or 2. i felt better this past week so maybe the 600mg a week has helped

[spoolin]

Man, 600mg a week should have you pegged off the chart for sure and if not, something is definitely up. Had you been running your shots E4D @ 125mg each (~250mg week) when you had the low results or where you running it @ 250mg E7D? I've found that splitting it up and running it E4D on TRT has me more stable. At 125mg E4D I'm right where I stand naturally (~600-700 ng/dl).

[ironjulius]

Man, 600mg a week should have you pegged off the chart for sure and if not, something is definitely up. Had you been running your shots E4D @ 125mg each (~250mg week) when you had the low results or where you running it @ 250mg E7D? I've found that splitting it up and running it E4D on TRT has me more stable. At 125mg E4D I'm right where I stand naturally (~600-700 ng/dl).
i was coming off cycle and was just doing it once a week. TRT watson test C at 100mg a week usually keeps me between 600-800

[BelicosoFino]

That seems low but I've never had a UG product that's as good as Watson. It's practically like a different substance.

Fact is, though, deca is pretty suppressive and the "blast and cruise" way of doing things certainly carries the risk that 250mg/week of Test may no longer "do it" for us.

In other words, I've worried that a 500mg dose of UG (which may not really be 500mg) would turn out to be the right "cruise" dose and next thing I knew, I'd never come off!

let us know how this develops but there's a chance the timing of all of this and perhaps some slightly weak gear is to blame.

might want to consider some HCG while you figure this all out.

[spoolin]

What's this Watson you guys are referring to and where do you get it? Is it domestic to the states?

[bdad]

What's this Watson you guys are referring to and where do you get it? Is it domestic to the states?


Script from the doctor.

[BelicosoFino]

Literally a week after a 200mg shot of Watson I start feeling nipple sensitivity. With just about every single UGL I've ever tried, virtually NOTHING.

seriously makes me wonder just how different the two are, but we use what we can get . . .