LR3, PEG MGF and PGE-1

[Elvia1023]

Gonna run these three together so hoping for some great results. Everyone raves about our LR3 and I tried it in the past but wasn't overwhelmed. Gonna give it another proper go and combine it with the PEG MGF in a way I think will produce great results. My plan is the following...

LR3 dosed at 100mcg pre workout in the muscle I am about to train (http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88808-sponsor-endosyn.html). For convenience I will likely stay with 50mcg each side for now. I train (http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88808-sponsor-endosyn.html) morning/afternoon and will always consume an intra shake of EAA's (or similar) and HBCD's.

PEG MGF at 400mcg dosed pre bed and injected sub-q in my stomach or surrounding area.

PGE-1 dosed at 5-15mcg pre workout in the muscle I am about to train (http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88808-sponsor-endosyn.html). Each side will probably be injected 1-3 times depending upon the body part. On my off days I will inject my PGE-1 pre bed in a chosen body part.

Nothing is set in stone and I will play about with things but that's pretty much covers it. I will likely dose the LR3 and MGF 4 times weekly and the PGE-1 everyday. The LR3 dose may increase over time but my cycle will be fairly short and if I enjoy it after a break I will repeat with a similar protocol.

Hormones are 40mg test p ed, avar at 75mg ed and mast e at 200mg per week. I haven't run the avar for long and have nearly ran out (only had 100 tabs). I plan to add in 200mg parabolan per week and increase the mast e to 400mg per week. So nothing high but I am open to adding things in if needed.

I have been using exemestane daily and plan to add in some caber (with the tren) and will be trying out t4 for the first time (probably in a week or so).

The other day I injected 100mcg LR3 into my chest pre workout (50mcg each side) and headed to the gym. I didn't notice too much but did get an amazing pump. However I am using an amazing pre workout now so it would have been that (all my workouts have been great recently). I did notice I stayed fuller for longer but maybe that was in my head. I will know more over the next few weeks. Later that day I dosed 200mcg PEG MGF pre bed and had a great sleep and woke up with numb hands.

I didn't go to the gym for a few days but have just been but went straight from work. From now on I will be dosing everything as I listed above so let the fun begin http://brotherhoodofpain.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[bazinga1991]

Good plan set out brother. Let us know how the LR3, PGE treat you and how they effect your muscle

[Elvia1023]

I forgot to say about the morning after. I was gonna just state you hear guys say I looked noticeably leaner and fuller the next day and I am sure guys read that thinking wtf. Can you really change much in 1 day. But it really can happen... a batch of old kiptropins done that to me and so did our cjc-dac at a high dose. Anyway I woke up after my 1st day of LR3 and PEG MGF and I swear I was so much tighter and fuller than usual. I have leaned out since starting and trust me that is not due to my diet. Although now I am gonna follow a good diet so that will only add to results.

Tonight I will be dosing 14.3mcg in each bi-cep pre bed http://brotherhoodofpain.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Johnjuanb1]

Killer stack!!! Let the fun begin..

[Ironworker1]

Awesome seems like you really have it down on what to test and take for your run....

[Elvia1023]

I trained legs yesterday and was gonna go to the gym today but left it. I need a rest day and some normal sleep for once. I am sore but I am really surprised how little the soreness is considering what I done to myself. Nothing over the top (I can go a bit mental at times) but I pushed it on leg press and well everything. This combo is definitely helping recovery and I after I have dosed the PEG MGF I seem to sleep better.

I will inject PGE-1 in a small dose in my bi-ceps tonight. 2moro I will be training abs, shoulders and calves. I will dose 100mcg LR3 in my shoulders pre workout and 400mcg PEG MGF sub-q pre bed.

[Tazzzz]

Elvia I'm confused by 1 thing. I always that LR3 was more systemic DES was more for sight enhancement. What am I missing?

[Elvia1023]

Elvia I'm confused by 1 thing. I always that LR3 was more systemic DES was more for sight enhancement. What am I missing?

You are correct. This isn't a site enhancement log more a overall improvement log :) The PGE-1 is the only thing that will site enhance. The other 2 are mainly systematic (and long acting) and the reason I picked them. I have never really liked the term body comp but I guess that is what I am after. I am hoping to get my waist down without losing inches anywhere else. The PGE-1 will mainly be used in my arms to get extra 'pop' and size.

[Tazzzz]

Thanks bro. Totally makes sense. Overall boady change with a focus on the guns. I'm using DES now with the MGF---short life allows both at different times. I use the MGF right after workout so it gets in front of my natural MGF & then the DES 3-4 hours later. Double down!

[Elvia1023]

I dosed my LR3 in my front delts today... 50mcg each side. My pre workout kicked in strong and I had an amazing workout. Lots of lateral and front raises with db's and cables. Lots of presses with db's and machines and shrugs too. Finished off with some calves and really pushed it. I was out in the day so for post workout I had chicken breast with pineapple, 1 banana and a cup of tea with honey in.

Time for bed now so gonna dose 400mcg PEG MGF sub-q right now :)

[Elvia1023]

Thanks bro. Totally makes sense. Overall boady change with a focus on the guns. I'm using DES now with the MGF---short life allows both at different times. I use the MGF right after workout so it gets in front of my natural MGF & then the DES 3-4 hours later. Double down!


IGF-1 DES is great for localized growth. It won't put inches on you but it should give some size and most importantly improve the overlook look of the muscle. Combining it with your MGF is great too. The DES is only active for mins and needs to be injected at a certain time to be most effective. Ideally you want to inject it about 10 mins into an arm workout were lactic acid has built up (started getting a pump). I am correct in stating you are dosing it in your arms? I would dose 100mcg at that time in your bi-ceps so 50mcg per side so 1 injection per bi-cep or even micro injs of 5 x 10mcg in each bi-cep. If you cannot dose it at this time then as close to your workout as possible (pre workout). Although it would be better dosing it during your workout so I would 100% move back your DES dosing to then.

LR3 and DES are much more potent than MGF but combining the two will always give optimal results due to their individual effects on Proliferation (MGF or PEG MGF) and Differentiation (LR3 or DES). Proliferation is the 1st step in the creation of new stem cells (obviously muscle ones). Differentiation is when those stem cells become a defined cell type. There is some overlap due to my dose timing but hopefully with the protocol I have set up I turn lots of those new cells into muscle. The same will happen for you if you dose them like I listed. Your MGF is only active for a very short time and post workout is ideal so keep it there just change the DES over and hopefully you are pleased with the results :)

[Elvia1023]

Things have been good. I haven't dosed PGE-1 every night but I will from now on. I love the way I feel after PEG-MGF so enjoying using it. LR3 it's hard to say. I take my pre workout so the fullness could be coming from that. Although I am leaning out on the same diet so only a good sign. I just need to give it more time. I will continue at 100mcg LR3 on workout days but I will soon up to 150mcg to see what difference that brings :) I will post up some pics very soon as a log without pics is pretty useless.

[Elvia1023]

I trained chest with 5 mins direct tri-ceps today. I was going to increase the dose by 50% but last minute decided to double the dose to see how I felt. So I injected 100mcg in 1 spot on either side of my chest (200mcg total). I felt a massive difference by doing this. I am still using my pre workout but before I had even drank it my chest was pumped. I know it was the LR3 as nothing else was pumped just my chest (could feel it a lot).

I ended up having a great workout just wish I had more time. I mainly concentrated on my chest (90% of my workout). My workout consisted of...

Low incline DB presses... started with 4kg db's and moved up to 50kg db's over about 8 sets.
Decline Barbell Press... walked over and done 1 set for 30 reps
Smith Machine Inclines... about 4 sets and on my final set I done rest pause for 11, 5 and 2 reps.
Chest Dips... I was gonna use a heavy db but I was struggling (minimal rest) so I just done 2 sets of bodyweight dips to failure.
Pec Deck... about 5 sets moving up in weight then on the final set less weight with super slow reps.
Machine Press... 1 set to failure... 14 reps I think
Cable Flies... 2 burn out sets

My intra shake was 2 scoops of Reflex's Intra Fusion with 75g HBCD's. Post workout I had a giant chicken breast with strawberries, raspberries and a banana.

I will dose 400mcg PEG MGF pre bed tonight. I didn't do any PGE-1 pre workout today so I will dose it pre bed.

[Elvia1023]

Things are going great. Not gonna lie though I had a foot long subway yesterday then a little later a large pizza (12 large slices) and bbq ribs. I felt like shit for eating them. Although surprisingly I did look good (for me) when I woke up. These combo of peps is definitely having an effect on the way my body uses food. That's it though my diet will be 100% improved from now on. I have decided it's time to get ripped. Everything else will stay the same just improvements in my diet.

Today I actually had an incredible workout. I was rushed for time and wanted to train legs but decided on back due to the lack of time. I had my pre workout powder and on top of that coconut water, shot of espresso and melted chocolate. I couldn't wait to train and after that combo I was fired up and trained like a madman. Lots of heavy sets with minimal rest and the sweat was dripping off me. I mainly stuck to machines today... chest supported row, lat pulldown, cable row, machine row, reverse pec deck etc.

Pre workout I dosed LR3 at 100mcg in each lat and got a great pump in them. I also had 200mcg t4 after my breakfast and all in all I look much tighter today even after all the crap I had last night. Pre bed I will dose 400mcg PEG-MGF sub-q and looking forward to training 2moro :)

[Ironworker1]

Interesting........ reading on!!!!!!

[Elvia1023]

I forgot to mention they say recovery is improved on this combo and I thought that but my chest has been so sore after training it the other day. I haven't long woke up and it is ok now though (4 days later and still a little sore). I got a ridiculous pump when I dosed LR3 pre workout for chest that day. It felt a lot different than usual... like it made my chest more sensitive in a way.

I am going out for the day but should be training tonight so looking forward to that. Have a great day everyone :)

[Rambo]

Elvia, can you explain what the best way to use PEG MGF is if I were to use it alone?

After I run out of LR3, I am thinking of using PEG MGF.

Also, as far as results. I know you mentioned to me before that IGF is stronger then MGF. What can I expect from PEG MGF?

I may also be running the usual ghrps, ghrhs, MK-677, with it so any info on timing, if it inhibits any other peps, or if I need to avoid certain things would be beneficial. I know MGF and IGF attach to the same receptors but I wasn't sure if it interacted with others.

[Elvia1023]

Elvia, can you explain what the best way to use PEG MGF is if I were to use it alone?

After I run out of LR3, I am thinking of using PEG MGF.

Also, as far as results. I know you mentioned to me before that IGF is stronger then MGF. What can I expect from PEG MGF?

I may also be running the usual ghrps, ghrhs, MK-677, with it so any info on timing, if it inhibits any other peps, or if I need to avoid certain things would be beneficial. I know MGF and IGF attach to the same receptors but I wasn't sure if it interacted with others.

PEG MGF is what I would call a recovery peptide. It's all about recovering damage muscle tissue and aiding growth. This is the first time I have used it so I have limited personal knowledge. I also don't know many close friends who have used it (the ones that did used it in large stacks). Although from the logs online I can safely state many guys may be disappointed using it and expecting fast results (or as a standalone). PEG-MGF is all about the long term imo and is best used on recovery days. If I were you I would use it with LR3 or DES. It needs to be taken as far away as possible from LR3 as they can negatively effect one another. If you plan to use it in a stack of GHRH's and GHRP's I would add in DES intra workout and the PEG MGF pre bed.

[Elvia1023]

Things have been good. Been training hard everyday. I purposely skipped the peps one day as I have been training more frequently. Today I dosed 100mcg in each bi-cep pre training. I trained arms and calves today and the pump was ridiculous. My arms felt different than normal so I know that was the LR3. My intra shake was 75g HBCD's and 2 scoops of Intra Fusion. I will dose 400mcg PEG MGF pre bed very soon.

I should mention the other day I trained really hard (had an intra shake) but didn't have time to eat post workout as I was late for work. This was the one day I didn't take anything so was solely diet related. I could feel it coming and in work I went hypo bad. I asked if I could have a break and finish late (even though I had just started). I had to go to the nearby butchers for food. I was bad and soaked in sweat and shaking and could barely speak. I just got anything I could... chicken wings, minted roasted potatoes, melon slices and strawberries. I stuffed my face and instantly felt better and was gtg after 20 mins. I won't be making that mistake again :o

My diet has improved a lot over the last few days and I will continue to improve it. I am getting leaner and my gf commented my arms have grew in the last 2 weeks so I will just continue what I am doing. I do eat what I want though as it's not like I am competing in a few weeks. But most meals tend to be lean protein with fruit or another carb source. I have had a few nice things today though. So far I have ate...

Granola with tropical fruits (with whole milk) then 3 whole eggs.
Fruit smoothie with 1 apple, 1 banana, some strawberries, cashews, whey isolate and water.
Intra shake of 75g HBCD's and 2 scoops of intra fusion.
Chicken Breast, minted roast potatoes and then some strawberries.
Pea and smoked pancetta ravioli.
Chicken and Chorizo with red peppers paella then an apricot and mixed berry crumble.
Fage Greek Yoghurt with blueberries and mandarin pieces.
Pre bed I will probably have 4 whole eggs or maybe a shake with mixed nuts.

2moro I may have a day off from the gym but I doubt it. If I do train it will be chest and back. Have a good weekend everyone :)

[Rambo]

PEG MGF is what I would call a recovery peptide. It's all about recovering damage muscle tissue and aiding growth. This is the first time I have used it so I have limited personal knowledge. I also don't know many close friends who have used it (the ones that did used it in large stacks). Although from the logs online I can safely state many guys may be disappointed using it and expecting fast results (or as a standalone). PEG-MGF is all about the long term imo and is best used on recovery days. If I were you I would use it with LR3 or DES. It needs to be taken as far away as possible from LR3 as they can negatively effect one another. If you plan to use it in a stack of GHRH's and GHRP's I would add in DES intra workout and the PEG MGF pre bed.
I was planning to run ghrp6 and cjc dac, and add the PEG MGF postworkout but you are saying prebed is better? I can do prebed. I still have 3 vials of des as well. So I can run the des intraworkout no problem. Just want to increase recovery as much as possible and I keep reading MGF is the way to go in that regard.

[Elvia1023]

I was planning to run ghrp6 and cjc dac, and add the PEG MGF postworkout but you are saying prebed is better? I can do prebed. I still have 3 vials of des as well. So I can run the des intraworkout no problem. Just want to increase recovery as much as possible and I keep reading MGF is the way to go in that regard.

No you could use it either time. I would go with post workout, pre bed or on your off days but any would be fine. I guess it depends what your training (http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88808-sponsor-endosyn.html) split looks like (how often you train (http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88808-sponsor-endosyn.html)). You can't really go wrong either way just get it in you :wink:

[Elvia1023]

I have had a few days off the gym but will be pushing it extra hard next week. Training should be arms, hams and calves 2moro morning and I will dose 200mcg LR3 pre workout. Been out all day and ate at a Brazilian restaurant so probably had over 400g meat within 1 hour. Here is pic from earlier (my gf is short so I was kneeling down :D
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[Ironworker1]

Good pic brother.....

[Elvia1023]

Good pic brother.....

Thanks :)

[Elvia1023]

Last night I trained abs, shoulders, arms, calves and finished with sled pushes. I dosed 100mcg LR3 in each delt pre workout and they felt great during training. Pre bed I dosed 400mcg PEG MGF and had a great sleep.

The gym shuts early on Sat so I forced myself up early so I could go again before work. Without my pre workout I would have been useless but ended up having a great training session. Today I dosed the LR3 in my chest (100mcg each side). The pump was amazing in my chest and I finished with some leg extensions. My chest has remained pumped all day and I know that is the LR3.

I left the PGE-1 but gonna dose it now at 14.3mcg in each bi-cep and tri-cep. I haven't been taking the PGE-1 everyday but will do from now on. On training days it will be used pre training every time now.

Hormones are the same but I am going to start my parabolan tonight. My cycle will now look like...

Test P at 40mg ed
Mast E at 200mg per week
Parabolan at 200mg per week

I have nearly run out of test p but I found 2 vials of sust. It's not ideal but I will swop over to that. Therefore I will inject 1/2 ml tonight just to get it in my system. My test p will be gone within a week so I will continue at 475mg (1.5ml) sust per week. I was going to increase the mast to 400mg but I have been getting loads of spots (I know that is the main cause) so I may leave it at 200mg per week.

[ozmuscle]

I'm due to start on IGF-LR3 shortly - seems it's a good thing to take (as part of PCT). Do any of you guys have any preferred injection sites?

[Elvia1023]

I'm due to start on IGF-LR3 shortly - seems it's a good thing to take (as part of PCT). Do any of you guys have any preferred injection sites?

My comp has been broke and I will update my log properly in a bit. My fav sites are lats, bi-ceps and tri-ceps but pretty much anywhere can be used. I dose it pre workout so will usually pick one of the 4 I listed I am about to train. I have even dosed it sub-q in my stomach pre workout as it mainly goes systematic.

[Elvia1023]

My comp broke the other week and I am so slow on my phone so I left this. My gf also moved back to Switzerland so we wanted to spend as much time as possible together before the move. I don't know where to start. I have to admit we ate out loads and I consumed loads of bad food. I will post some pics of some of the meals later.

Now I am living alone I am literally just going to train, work and eat good. Even on a bad diet my cycle (mainly the tren and lr3 imo) have kept me improving slightly. Now it's time to really progress and I am happy about what's a head.

I hadn't used my lr3 and peg mgf combo for about 5 days but just dosed 200mcg lr3 post workout for a change. I then had steak and egg pasta... next meal was low fat yoghurt with strawberries, blueberries and a banana cut up. I was at the supermarket before and they had happy hen eggs (really good) discounted at 18p a pack (they are expensive). The best before isn't until 7th May but the display date was today. They had 8 packs so I bought them all so gonna have 6 whole eggs pre bed now :)

Even when I feel like I look extra shit when I train my body looks like a different person. The lr3 (and pre workout) with intra aminos, carbs, water and pump change me fast.

The other day I used 200mcg LR3 post workout and started to cook a meal and went hypo bad so I won't be doing that again. I only have 4 shots left so I am gonna get some more when I can. I will be dosing all of them pre workout with my PEG MGF dosed pre bed.

3 weeks ago hormones were:
Test P at 40mg ed
Mast E at 200mg per week
Parabolan at 200mg per week

Now they are:
Sust at 700mg per week
Mast E at 200mg per week
Parabolan at 200mg per week

I am taking part in a transformation contest on anabolicunderground. I have been meaning to post these for weeks. This is from a few weeks ago but shows the fast changes I made. I wasn't on tren at this point and I mainly contribute the changes to improvements in diet (still wasn't great) and going higher with my LR3 dose. I do look fucking awful in the first pic but that's what partying can do. I think the difference in the pics is about 8-9 days.

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(6th April... I am English :D)

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Comp sounds like it will crash so I will post this now.

[Elvia1023]

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[Elvia1023]

I had a day off the gym today but will be training 2moro morning before work. My plan is back and hamstrings. I am feeling good and ready for 2moro. After 2 days of watching what I eat more my waist literally feels 2 inches smaller. My aims over the next few weeks is overall fat loss. I want to bring my waist in whilst retaining fullness everywhere else. With the fat loss and training will come increased vascularity and a freakier looking physique. I will be utilizing GDA's when I can but not much as I am very sensitive to them.

I have 4 shots of LR3 and PEG MGF left and then I will have a break to refresh my receptors. I hope to start a new peptide cycle in the near future. I am thinking high dosed hexarelin and a surprise. I will carry this thread on so I can show my progress over the next few months.

[Ironworker1]

Looking good brotha... i've been off the pge1 for a while now but starting back up this week..
Keep it up brotha.......

[Elvia1023]

Looking good brotha... i've been off the pge1 for a while now but starting back up this week..
Keep it up brotha.......

Thanks matey... that's my plan so hopefully I can carry on progressing :)

[Elvia1023]

Yesterday I trained shoulders with hamstrings. Today I trained abs, back and finished with sled pushes. Being training really hard and the sled pushes always done me in today. I was on the floor shaking barely able to breathe but it felt good :D

The last few days I have ate pretty much clean and the difference is big. Most whole meals tend to be chicken or beef with sweetcorn and broccoli (some with rice instead). Liquid meals are fruit smoothies with mainly pineapple, berries, banana and grapefruits used. I will carry this on for the next few months.

I started using a GDA again. I have had them awhile but took 2 pre training today. Then 15 mins later I had a smoothie with pineapple, banana, lemon and whey protein. I had another 15 mins before my post workout meal of steak, sweetcorn, tomatoes and broccoli.

LR3 was dosed at 100mcg in each lat pre workout. My intra shake was 25g BCAA's and 75g HBCD's. I probably looked the best I have ever looked post workout in the mirror in the gym. I look like a different person post workout. From the added test to the LR3, GDA and intra nutrition the muscle fullness is amazing.

Although everything will be having an effect I can safely state it is the LR3 having the most effect (by far). I am on 750mg test now but have taken that many times over the years. I have done 1.5g test once before and the muscle fullness I get on this cycle I have never encountered before. Starting to get veins all over my body too. Gonna just stay in routine and see where that takes me.

I have about 1 days supply left of LR3 and after my pre bed dose PEG MGF too. I will carry on as normal but will lower carbs slightly over time. I will lower my intra shake carbs from 75G to 50G once I finish the peptides.

I wanted to post updated pics but my photographer has gone back to Switzerland and I am all alone :o:D I took a few selfies last night but they didn't come out at all. I will get some updated pics up fast though.

[Elvia1023]

Things have been great. I am in a good routine now. I have made small improvements in the last week so I am happy. Unfortunately I have finished my LR3 and PEG MGF but hope to start a new peptide cycle soon. I am happy but realize I will have to lower carbs slightly as I am currently consuming too many for my current goals. I want like to consume as many as I can get away with but will lower over the next few weeks.

I need to tell you guys about the other night. I remember getting loads of ghrp-2 from ergo years ago. I still have 3 vials unopened in my fridge and one with next to nothing left that has been there for... must be well over 6 months. I took 0.1ml (I assume that would be 167mcg if I originally mixed it with 3ml) pre bed the other night and wow... I have missed that feeling. Woke up and my hands were so numb but I could barely get out of bed. I literally lay there for about 3 hours. I am gonna add it in twice daily until I get some new peps.

Hormones are now 700mg test and 200mg parabolan. I just stopped masteron so will up the tren to 300mg soon.

I have been going the gym most days and had a great shoulder and arm workout today. 2moro will be legs and looking forward to it. I will get some pics up when I can as it's more awkward now living alone.

Our caber is definitely gtg. I have been in the best mood ever today... very silly and almost manic so perhaps I need to lower the dose... currently taking about 0.3mg eod now.

My meals are usually meat with veg and/or rice, greek yoghurt with fruit and protein smoothies. I am gonna mainly start consuming berries in my shakes as they are lower carb (instead of lots of pineapple, banana, apples and grapes).

For a midnight snack I just had 5 whole free range eggs cooked in coconut oil on top of 2 pieces of buttered toast. I added a few pieces of seasoned bresaola on top and drizzled with a little olive oil. Earlier on I had sirloin steak, oven baked cinnamon pineapple and roasted cashew nuts. Most of my other meals have been fruit smoothies and some chicken with veg.

[Elvia1023]

Off the peps now but hoping to get on a new cycle soon. Reading everyone's posts on mk-677 etc don't help although the last thing I want is bloat right now. Gonna tighten up even more and get my waist down. Feeling good and had a great workout early today. Although I had a bad start to the day and was running very late. Pre workout I took 12.5mg tadalafil, 1 serving of nitronox and a coffee with honey in so I was flying.

I decided instead of legs to do back and a bit of hams as I had to rush a little in the gym. 2moro will be a full leg workout and gonna hit them hard. Although I am on doxycycline and since starting I noticed my knees feel dry so I won't go really heavy with most exercises. Instead I am thinking lots of high reps and minimal rest with moderate weight.

Currently living alone but wanted to post an updated pic so was messing around with the selfie function on my phone before :D I will post a pic from my phone in a min. Have a great weekend everyone :)

[Elvia1023]

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[Elvia1023]

It's been a while but wanted to update with my progress etc. Things have been good. I noticed a drop in fat loss after stopping the pep combo. I did dose GHRP-2 (solo) a few times but it feels so strong I don't really like it. Granted I took too much but one time I was literally a sweating wreck wanting to eat as much as possible post injection. I much prefer GHRP's that don't act as agonists of ghrelin.

I should add I have taken GHRP-2 many times over the years with great success but will probably stick to the likes of hexarelin and ipamorelin from now on. I could dose 50mcg GHRP-2 but it's better for me dosing the others ghrp's at larger doses. I get all the benefits and no bad side effects.

I was using 200mg parabolan per week and swopped over to tren e for a change. Don't know how I managed to do this as tren e never comes in 100mg/ml these days but I carried on dosing 1ml twice weekly. I felt a bit more anxious and soon realized I had injected 400mg tren that week. I only doseds it like that for 2 shots and went down to 1/ml twice weekly so 200mg per week.

The difference from parabolan to tren e is night and day in regards to side effects. I never get night sweats from tren a or when using parabolan but started getting the worst ones ever. Granted my estrogen was high but they have been ridiculous. Plus I could barely sleep... for 1 week I must have had about 30 hours sleep... most days being 3 hours a night.

I have been to Geneva so been eating alsorts of things. I am back now and all I want to do his train and eat well for the next few weeks. I haven't taken any aas since last week. I have decided to stop the tren as I value my sleep. My new cycle is...

750mg Test C per week
300mg Primo E per week

I would like to do more primo but that's all I can do for now. I have adrol I will be starting at 50mg in a few days... likely to go up 50mg per week to a max of 150mg. I also have some halo I plan to use in about 2 months time.
Not using any peps now but hope to start the following cycle very soon :)

Hexarelin at 200mcg 3 times daily
Tesamorelin at 1mg pre bed.

I done a full body routine today and was in the gym well over 3 hours. I will go back to my typical 1 hour training sessions from now on. The big workout done me good though.

[Elvia1023]

I am training hard again. Really going for it now. I trained back, rear delts and calves for 3 hours today. 2moro I am thinking chest and quads before work. I started adrol today at 50mg and decided to add in 20mg dbol (both pre workout). After 1 week I will up the adrol to 100mg split 50mg pre workout (with 20mg dbol) and 50mg in the evening.

I have decided to change my next peptide cycle. Instead of hexarelin I want to use Ipamorelin at 500mcg twice daily. I wish I could use more but that's all I can do. Ipam is my fav GHRP and I feel amazing on it. I decided to swop over mainly due to the fact Ipam has no effect on prolactin or cortisol (plus I want to stay off dopamine agonists for awhile). Moreover it provides a longer spike of gh and no side effects for me like other GHRP's can. My new peptide cycle will be...

CJC NO DAC and Ipamorelin at 100mcg and 500mcg in the morning (pre workout).
Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin at 1mg and 500mcg pre bed.

I might add in an odd shot of cjc no dac and ghrp-2 at 100mcg each in the evening before my main meal.

[Gearguy92]

What is all the rave about the pge1 and what exactly is it and suppose to do?

[Elvia1023]

What is all the rave about the pge1 and what exactly is it and suppose to do?

I was using it in various body parts pre training. However 99.9% of the people online using it put it in the dicks. A lot of guys with ED use it but many just want a 3 hour erection. In simple terms if you inject it into your bi-cep for example it feels like it almost inflates. Guys do it down below and it's suppose (not for everyone) go rock hard and stay hard even if you cum. A lot of guys also use it for penile enlargement. They do this by injecting it everyday then performing various exercises and stretches when in an erect state. Over time guys have reported penile growth... some have put on inches in length/girth. I have never injected it down below but know many who have... usually if they are having a threesome etc or want to impress or some who have severe ed issues and other drugs haven't helped. The info is all over the net with various logs etc.

Injecting it for bodybuilding purposes is very different. I have tested it enough to know if permanent growth can be achieved but common sense would suggest it is. The instant fullness/size increase from this stuff can be remarkable. Although as listed in my log it can be very painful especially in calves and quads. It's not fun injecting at all but does have it's uses for the bodybuilder. I also noticed an increase in strength in the injected body part (not placebo and others have reported the same). I think this would be ideal for the competing bodybuilder in micro doses all over their bodies (or weaker body parts) on contest day for added fullness etc. It would need to be trialed many times though to see if pain was a factor and to find what dose would be best used for that individual.

[Gearguy92]

I can pin my body 20× a day anywhere.... I could NEVER inject something into my dick.... that'd pretty fucked up!!

[Elvia1023]

I can pin my body 20× a day anywhere.... I could NEVER inject something into my dick.... that'd pretty fucked up!!

I get asked a lot of things so I like to try everything so I can gain a better understanding and hopefully advise people best. I have said a few times I would do it just so I know how it feels but I still haven't. I think my dick will always be a virgin to pinning! I can't exactly learn much from 1 pin anyway. I know a few guys running it with great results. The thing is though I don't need it and the thought of pinning my cock is just wrong. But some of these guys have severe ED issues and if I had that and a gf I would definitely be trying anything. Sounds funny but I was made up the other day as 1 guy who hasn't been able to have sex with his girl for a long time achieved a 1 hour erection with our PGE-1. Stories like that make me happy to rep for Superior.

[Elvia1023]

I never realized I didn't have enough bac water to cover everything so I ordered more. It come today so I will be starting my peptide cycle tonight. My cycle will be...

AM= CJC no DAC at 100mcg and Ipamorelin at 500mcg.

Glutathione at 100mcg (eod)

PM= Tesamorelin at 1mg and Ipamorelin at 500mcg

I noticed the company I got my bac water from had 2mg vials of sermorelin so I just added one to see how I feel from it. Not gonna learn too much from 1 vial but gonna see how 1mg pre bed treats me to begin with. Therefore pre bed tonight will be 1mg sermorelin and 500mcg ipamorelin. I will do that for 2 nights then move onto the cycle above. I have just mixed my glutathione and will start that 2moro morning.

Obviously if I was all about health I wouldn't be on any aas but at the same time I want this cycle to not impact too negatively on my health. The peptides I am using should really help me attain my goals and actually improve the quality of my life. I write that as I think they will help me sleep better, increase my sense of well being and improve my recovery. I am also using aas but that's fairly mild apart from the adrol I am currently using (100mg per day). I am also on 700mg test c and 350mg primo e and plan to stay at those amounts. I am using 1.25mg letrozole eod and will be using 18.75mg tadalafil eod. My diet is full of fruit and vegetables and lean sources of protein with some good fats in there so very healthy.

My goals are basically fat loss, improved sleep, better recovery and to beat Queefer in the transformation contest on the Anabolic Underground :D

[Elvia1023]

The first night of my new cycle I dosed 1mg sermorelin and 500mcg ipamorelin pre bed. I woke up feeling more rested but expected more. Anyway the 2nd night I dosed exactly the same but that time woke up and my hands were ridiculously numb and I felt like I had had a really deep sleep. I have missed that feeling a lot. I then swopped over to 1mg tesamorelin and 500mcg ipamorelin pre bed and more of the same. Before this cycle I had hoped for better sleep so made up. I am actually over sleeping so need to start getting up earlier as the last 2 days I have barely had time to eat before work.

Things are going good now. I have noticed increased fatigue on my pep combo but nothing too much. I was only dosing once daily until very recently. Now I have added 100mcg cjc no dac and 500mcg ipam in the day. My comp keeps crashing so have wanted to post more. I also have a big move next week so have a lot to sort out until then. I am moving country so a big change for me. Gonna carry on with this protocol until I get settled in my new home. I will join a new gym and try to eat well. Then I will look at adding in a few things to help tighten me up.

I forgot to mention I added in tamoxifen last week at 20mg per day (gonna move down to 10mg soon). My sex drive has shot up and I feel great. I do notice anxiety for a very short time just after I dose. My acne has nearly gone too so very happy about that.

[Elvia1023]

Things are good. I move to Geneva on Tues and in between gyms now so not been going as much as I would have liked. Gonna get a day pass on Monday and train hard. My diet for the last week has pretty much been protein smoothies, cereal and lots of milk (over 2 litres a day). Once I get to Geneva I will follow a much better diet and get in a good routine. I am really looking forward to the next few months.

The main thing I have noticed on this pep combo is the amazing sleep. I have gone from having very little sleep to struggling to get up. But I feel great for it. The last two weeks have been all about recuperation and once I get back on track I will be steaming forward.

Gonna dose 1mg tesamorelin and 500mcg ipamorelin pre bed now :)