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Mvee76
05-24-2015, 08:23 PM
My stats are 5,8" about 170 39 yrs old. not sure about bf.
I will be using pharmacon gear..


Cycle..
Weeks 1-10 Pharma mix Tren E 100mg..Test E 200mg..Deca 200Mg..
Weeks 1-8 Anavar
Weeks 1-10 armidex.5 ed
Weeks 11-12 clomid 100mg ed

Weeks 1-10 pharma mix .75cc's 2 times a week thats 150mg tren e..300mg test e and 300mg deca total every week broken down into 2 shots.

Weeks 1-8 Anavar 60mg ed.. 20Mg am...20mg noon...20mg afternoon.

My workout is will be 10-15 reps on the different body parts 8-10 sets on small muscle groups 12-15 sets on larger muscle groups.. 3 days on 2 days off..

My diet will be clean... Oatmeal..peanut butter..eggs..chicken..fish..tuna..lean meats...beans..veggies...bananas..

Will look to take in 160-170 grams of protein ed.. Light on carbs and fat.. Again looking for the lean hard strong vascular bod....Would like to stay around 175lbs and ripped... So..How does the set up look? Thank you

Mountain-Man
05-24-2015, 09:49 PM
I think the test should be higher 400-500 mg a week but otherwise for ur goals looks good

Mvee76
05-24-2015, 10:43 PM
Thanks... I am also thinking of X'ing out the mix and Just getting Tren E and Test E and running them at 300 test E and 200 Tren E.. Ew.. Broken down into test 150 tren 100 2x a week.. I not sure i want to go into higher doses yet.. Have not cycled in 2 years or so..last cycle I ran Sust 250 at 250 ew and grew like a weed.. So im going to keep it at 300 test 200 tren EW. 60 anavar ED.

Mountain-Man
05-24-2015, 11:06 PM
Thanks... I am also thinking of X'ing out the mix and Just getting Tren E and Test E and running them at 300 test E and 200 Tren E.. Ew.. Broken down into test 150 tren 100 2x a week.. I not sure i want to go into higher doses yet.. Have not cycled in 2 years or so..last cycle I ran Sust 250 at 250 ew and grew like a weed.. So im going to keep it at 300 test 200 tren EW. 60 anavar ED.
If it's ur second cycle that would be fine great results as long as ur diet and training are golden best of luck bro

kubes
05-24-2015, 11:20 PM
Have you thought about adding nolvadex to your pct and hcg to your cycle?

titanman03
05-24-2015, 11:32 PM
Have you thought about upping your test to like 500mg a week. I've never ran less than 4-500mg a week of test. Just an idea. Is there a reason you want to run that amount of test

kubes
05-24-2015, 11:35 PM
He is running lower test to avoid bloat letting the other compounds do the work. Some do well with that and some prefer high test. Both ways can be very effective

titanman03
05-24-2015, 11:47 PM
Yeah I've heard of low test higher tren. I'm debating trying it. I wasn't happy with the gains I was getting so I dropped the var on my cycle and added in anadrol. And kubes I've never ran adrol before and I can honestly say holy shit lol. The pumps at the gym and feeling from them after just a few days are crazy. Looking forward to seeing what 4 weeks of them will do

kubes
05-24-2015, 11:48 PM
Yeah I've heard of low test higher tren. I'm debating trying it. I wasn't happy with the gains I was getting so I dropped the var on my cycle and added in anadrol. And kubes I've never ran adrol before and I can honestly say holy shit lol. The pumps at the gym and feeling from them after just a few days are crazy. Looking forward to seeing what 4 weeks of them will do

Adrol is strong. Not for me though I don't like the fact that you loose most the water weight as soon as the compound is discontinued

Mvee76
05-25-2015, 01:27 AM
Well I did consider upping the tren to 300.. But I have never taken tren and I heard it could be rough.. So I am trying it out. All in all.. As it stands I would be running the test..tren and anavar.. Combined its 800mg of gear EW. and yes I am letting the tren and anavar do the real work.. From the research I have tren it supposed to be amazing.. I already know what anavar and test can do.. Im a first timer with tren so wanted to try it out at 200.. But maybe I will up to 300ew.. But I do belive 200 is enough..especially with the test and anavar in there..

Mvee76
05-25-2015, 01:31 AM
And heck no on Adrol..lol.. My buddy took adrol..he got huge and wanted to beat everyone up.. Seriously he looked like a maniac on it..lol.. I guess its diff. for everyone.. He just popped adrol and worked and ate like a beast.. All adrol..heavy weight and food cycle.. It was scary..

smc252
06-02-2015, 06:22 PM
Mvee I definitely am sensitive to tren. I like to ramp up slowly, I definitely feel it, even at just 100-200mg a week. I suggest having bromo or caber if you aren't sure, tren eventually killed my sex drive.

cybrsage
06-05-2015, 08:15 PM
I recommend using Tren-A if it is your first time Tren use. That way it can be out of your system fast if you have bad sides, or you can easily adjust the dose. Tren-A leaves in days, Tren-E leaves in weeks. Imagine having terrible night sweats and insomnia from the Tren and you stop taking it...and have to wait a month for them to go away. With Tren-A, you just wait a few days.

delivered
06-06-2015, 02:35 AM
Brother, not to be a jerk but you need to do more research. A week pct with just clomid on the 11th week will do absolutely nothing. First, your test e and Tren will not have cleared, not to mention the dreaded Ester deca...your body will be shut down and in no way ready to begin to restart your hpta axis. You need to research before you scree yourself up and are on trt for the rest of your life.

delivered
06-06-2015, 02:40 AM
Pm me if you want some help. I'd blast hcg 500iu week duration of cycle even 3-4 weeks past last shot and take clomid 100mg Nolva 40mg for 2 weeks then 50/20 for 2 more weeks for a total of 4 weeks pct.