Next Cycle for lean mean results.

[Mvee76]

Ok bros. My stats are 39 yrs old 5,8" 170lbs not sure on bf. 3 previous cycles. Have used test, anavar and winny in the past. I have not cycled in 2+ years. With this cycle I'm looking to get rock hard lean gains as well as vascular. Would like to stay around 170-175 and solid. If i'm missing something here let me know.. Fyi..my last cycle was sustanon 250 i did just 250 ew and grew like a weed so i want to keep doses on the low end for this cycle..

Weeks 1-10 Test E.. 300mg EW.. Taken at 150mg 2x a wk.
Weeks 1-10 Tren E..200mg EW ..Taken at 100mg 2x a wk.
Weeks 1-8 Anavar.. 60mg ED..Taken at 20mg 3x a day
Weeks 1-10 Armidex.. 1mg EOD.
Weeks 11 and 12 Clomid..100mg ED

Workout will be 4 days on 2 days off.. 8-10 sets for small muscle groups..12-15 sets for larger muscle groups..Reps will be 8-12 per set.. Cardio ED. Clean diet.. Lean meats..Chicken..Fish..Tuna..Beans..Lots of Veggies..Eggs..Oatmeal..Peanut Butter..Bananas..various fruits.. Protein powder shakes.. Will take in 170-180mgs of protein ED.. Tryin to keep the carbs and bad fats down to a min.. Again i'm looking to get ripped on this one.. Will be using pharmacom gear.. Looking to start inside the next 45-60 days.. Any feedback on my plans are Greatly appreciated.. I'm here to learn from you guys.. So if anything looks wrong here..Please let me know.. Thank you..

[kubes]

Doses seem a bit low and Clomid for just 2 weeks isn't much of a pct. I would add hcg to the cycle at 250 iu 2xew right up to 3 days prior to pct and for pct I would run Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20

[Mvee76]

Great.. Thanks for input.. I guess I can check 1 of the research chem sites for the Nolva.. Not too keen on using hcg. But will check it out.. Now even though im running armidex during cycle.i should use nolva pct.. I have only used clomid in past for pct but used the clomid for 30 days.. I was just reading and it said clomid for 2 wks is sufficient but ok will but it up on clomid..

[kubes]

The nice the about nolvadex is it does 2 things. It will compete for the receptor in your mammary gland keeping estrogen out when t levels will be at there low. This will fight off gyno were Clomid won't really do that. Nolvadex will also help stimulate lh. Hcg mimics lh on cycle maintaining testicular function will make pct much much smoother

[Mvee76]

Please keep in mind I'm not trying to get huge.. I want very lean gains and the hard dry look.. That is the reason I kept the doses low.. The cycles I have taken were all low dose and gained serious muscle and strength. I could always bump it up on a future cycle..

[kubes]

Please keep in mind I'm not trying to get huge.. I want very lean gains and the hard dry look.. That is the reason I kept the doses low.. The cycles I have taken were all low dose and gained serious muscle and strength. I could always bump it up on a future cycle..

It doesn't matter. Your size will be dictated by your nutrition and training. Being shut down on cycle from either low dose exogenous androgens or a high dose cycle is still shut down and requires the same pct to give you the best chances of a good recovery

[Mvee76]

Ok then should I keep the armidex on 1mg eod and add in the hcg.. And nolva i will get for pct.. As I mentioned I will start in 45-60 days so plenty of time to tweek the cycle.. I obviously want to keep sides as minimal as possible..

[kubes]

Most people start adex at .25 mg eod unless they are sensitive to estrogen

[Mvee76]

Ok. Im thinking the higher the doses the bigger Im going get. I train hard as it is and my diet is clean...High protein. Low carb..low fat..

[kubes]

Ok. Im thinking the higher the doses the bigger Im going get. I train hard as it is and my diet is clean...High protein. Low carb..low fat..

I know many people that grow like weeds on low dose cycle but have there nutrition and training dialed in. To grow you will have to eat enough to support the new tissue

[Mvee76]

Ok. The adex I was looking at is 1mg tabs.. Not sure if they can be broken down.. So I will get the adex from the research chem sites..easier to dose..

[kubes]

Ok. The adex I was looking at is 1mg tabs.. Not sure if they can be broken down.. So I will get the adex from the research chem sites..easier to dose..

You could do that or just break them in half and run .5 mg 2xew

[Mvee76]

Trust me eating will not be an issue..lol.

[Mvee76]

Cool.. Thanks for the help.. Im going to tweek the cycle with your advice and re-post another time..

[kubes]

Good luck and enjoy the cycle

[Mvee76]

Thanks Bud..

[bulk_cut]

I would lower the test to 250 unless it's test-e 300 and would raise the tren to at least 300/week and I would extend the cycle to 12 weeks because you're using enanthate. I would also save the Anavar for the last 6 weeks of the cycle. I would also use Aromasin instead of adex on cycle and definitely use it during PCT. I would consider using HCG the last 4 weeks of the cycle and I would not use Clomid at all just the Nolva and Aromasin. Remember - your diet is going to play the major factor in your gains!

[Mvee76]

It will be test e 300.. and I was thinking of upping tren to 300.. I could always drop test to 225 since every .25 is 75mg but im thinking run both at 300...maybe!

[Mvee76]

I may do away with Tren all together.. I keep reading about bad sides. And I wont do tren acetate because Im not turning my body into a pin cushion.. So i am maybe thinking maybe a test e..deca..anavar or test e...eq..anavar.. Is tren really worth it and will the sides be so bad that i end up hurt... I wanna cycle and look good not get hurt...

[kubes]

I may do away with Tren all together.. I keep reading about bad sides. And I wont do tren acetate because Im not turning my body into a pin cushion.. So i am maybe thinking maybe a test e..deca..anavar or test e...eq..anavar.. Is tren really worth it and will the sides be so bad that i end up hurt... I wanna cycle and look good not get hurt...

You will like the deca and if you keep the food clean there won't be hardly any bloat

[Mvee76]

Kubes im just reading alot about tren seams like it could be rough.. Again I dont want a rough cycle that I will have to stop... I'm know thinking I should The Test E ..Deca..Anavar..cycle... i know deca is safer than tren.. I have a buddy that cycles deca and primo and he looks like rambo.. I'm nearly 40 yrs old here..so im looking for that ripped look... The test..deca..anavar cycle should do the trick right? and of course the training and diet will on point.

[kubes]

Oh yes test and deca will be a fantastic combo with less risks of sides. Grab some caber though just in case any sides to come from the deca

[Mvee76]

Ok.. Im thinking Test E..Deca..Anavar cycle.. Clean diet. Hard training... I am reading alot bad sides with Tren.. Dont want to have a bad cycle and have to stop because of tren... So the test..deca..anavar..should get me the results I want correct?

[kubes]

Ok.. Im thinking Test E..Deca..Anavar cycle.. Clean diet. Hard training... I am reading alot bad sides with Tren.. Dont want to have a bad cycle and have to stop because of tren... So the test..deca..anavar..should get me the results I want correct?

Those compounds will do what you want as long as you are doing the rest correctly

[Mvee76]

Will check on caber... Actually never heard of it.. Will look into it..
I'm not running tren.. Not worth it for me.. I know of deca have heard great things about it... Also read it helps lube the joints..

[kubes]

Will check on caber... Actually never heard of it.. Will look into it..
I'm not running tren.. Not worth it for me.. I know of deca have heard great things about it... Also read it helps lube the joints..

It does. I have had a nagging back injury and deca makes it feel much better

[Mvee76]

At what dose would I run Deca.. If I keep the Test E at 300mg EW and the Anavar at 60mg ED.. I am thinking of running the Deca at 300-400mg EW.. Never cycled Deca...

[kubes]

I would run it at 400

[Mvee76]

I thought you would say 400...lol. Im going to check the source I will use and see what the deca is dosed at.. But yeah.. Test e.300 ew.. Deca 400 ew.. Anavar 60 ed. Sounds like a plan.. Ok well its time for me to lay off the internet for tonight.. Gotta give wifey some attention.. I really appreciate all your advice and I will post a new cycle with the deca.. And will look into caber... Thank you good night..

[kubes]

Good luck brother

[Mvee76]

Thank you..Likewise Bro!

[Mvee76]

When you say run clomid at 100..50..50..50 and Nolva at 40...40...20...20
Are you saying 100 mg ed first wk. Then 50mg ed wks 2..3 and 4 on clomid..
And on Nolva is that 40mg ed first and second wk. Then 20mg ed wks 3 and 4 or 40mg a wk. And the Hcg it comes in a 5000i.u.vial. so by getting one 5000 i.u. vial i should be good right... 250i.u. 2x a wk. Is 5000 for 10 wks...

I am trying to get the antis during cycle and the pct on point before i start..

Thanks again a bro

[kubes]

Yes that's right 40 first week and second then 20 next to weeks. Cloud is the same 100 first week Ed and the 50 mg Ed for the next three weeks. I usually grab the 5000 in hcg as well

[Mvee76]

Ok great and sorry to be be a pain here. But to clarify on the nolva is it 40mg ew. Meaning take 4 10mg tabs 4x a wk. or is 40mg ed for 2 wks. Then 20mg ed for 2 weeks.. I ask because i have used nolva in past at 10mg ed during cycle.. Never used it for pct...

Once I have the anxcilleries and pct straight... I will post the cycle again in full detail for critique...


Thanks again bro

[Mvee76]

Gotta get the pct right... Very important to me...