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PAiN
08-08-2015, 07:12 PM
Your initials determine how old you get


Imagine: your loving parents blessed you with the full name Anthony Simon Stephen. Great name, but when it comes to initials you'd have been better off with Albert Christopher Eric. Psychologists at the University of California discovered years ago that men with 'positive initials' live more than four years longer than men with 'negative initials'.




Symbolism is a powerful socio-psychological (http://brotherhoodofpain.com) factor. If you are superstitious, you're more likely to fall ill if you see a black cat. The likelihood of committing suicide is greater at the ages of twenty, thirty and forty, probably because these ages have symbolic significance: they are perceived as milestones.


So, the researchers thought, maybe it makes a difference which initials you were given at birth. Are your initials positive, like ACE, GOD, HUG, JOY, LOV, VIP, WIN or WOW? Or were your parents not thinking carefully when they sent out the announcement of your birth, lumping you with initials like APE, ASS, BAD, DIE, PIG, RAT, ROT, SAD, SIC, SIK or UGH? [Although personally we wouldn't find it bad at all to have BAD as our initials - Ed.]











The researchers went through the death certificates of Californian males who died between 1969 and 1995. Among these they found 2300 men with negative initials and 1200 with positive initials. The figure below shows how old the men with positive initials were when they died, in comparison with a control group of men with neutral initials. As you can see, the men with positive initials lived to an older age than the men with neutral initials.



http://ergo-log.com/plaatjes/namedeath.gif (http://brotherhoodofpain.com)


The graph below shows the same comparison, but for men with negative initials.




http://ergo-log.com/plaatjes/namedeath2.gif (http://brotherhoodofpain.com)


When the researchers looked at the effect of initials on the cause of death, they ended up with the figure below. This compares the cause of death of the men with positive initials with that of men with neutral initials.




http://ergo-log.com/plaatjes/namedeath3.gif (http://brotherhoodofpain.com)


Men with positive initials die noticeably less frequently from strokes, accidents, diabetes, suicide and HIV.

Men with positive initials lived for an average of 4.5 years longer than men with neutral initials. Men (http://brotherhoodofpain.com) with negative initials by contrast lived 2.8 years less than normal. The researchers found the same relationships for women, but they were less strong. Women (http://brotherhoodofpain.com) with positive initials lived on average 3.4 years longer than women in the control group.



This finding adds to the evidence that mortality (http://brotherhoodofpain.com) can be markedly affected by the symbolic environment", the psychologists conclude. "A symbol as simple as one's initials can add four years to life, or subtract three years from it."



Researchers at Pomona College in California did a study in 2005 which cast doubt on the relationship between initials and death. They found no relationship between death and positive or negative initials. [Psychosom Med. 2005 Sep-Oct;67(5):820-4.] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16204444) But a couple of years later again, psychologists at Wayne State University published a study that confirmed the 1999 results. In this study baseball (http://brotherhoodofpain.com) players with positive initials lived thirteen years longer than players with negative or neutral initials. [Percept Mot Skills. 2007 Feb;104(1):179-82.]

(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17450979)
Source: (http://brotherhoodofpain.com)
J Psychosom Res. 1999 Sep;47(3):241-54. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10576473)

Fongy
08-09-2015, 12:47 AM
Wow that could have possibly made me dumber just reading that lol. No offence PAiN :)
How on earth did they determine what positive and negative initials actually were, apart from them spelling out words, which lets be honest hardly any body's initials spell out a word??

PAiN
08-09-2015, 12:56 AM
Wow that could have possibly made me dumber just reading that lol. No offence PAiN :)
How on earth did they determine what positive and negative initials actually were, apart from them spelling out words, which lets be honest hardly any body's initials spell out a word??


HAHA LOL None taken bro just posting up what I found.

black-dragon
11-22-2015, 05:45 AM
I'd like to know how they can conclude that it's the initials causing early death. There's the old example of the correlation between ice cream sales and shark attacks. It's not that higher ice cream sales cause more shark attacks, it's that more people tend to go to the beach on hot days, leading to more ice cream sales AND more targets for sharks. Who knows what other variables this study hasn't taken into account?

Kzoo Detector
11-22-2015, 01:52 PM
The positive initials theory sure backfired on Wendy O. Williams in a big way...

benlash74
11-22-2015, 04:00 PM
Not sold on this idea. Interested to know how much money and research went into this. Probably where our tax money goes.

drugs-and-homicide
03-03-2016, 03:53 PM
As someone who spends a lot of time reading about names...yeah, this is pretty bullshit.

My initials are MEA, not sure what you can take from that. But I plan to live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse.

Kvasir
03-03-2016, 04:26 PM
Clearly, correlation is not causation, but correlations can lead to further research for mitigating factors

wsnake
03-04-2016, 11:15 PM
In Breaking news - The date and time of your birth will pre determine the course of your life.

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Loose Cannon
03-04-2016, 11:20 PM
have you seen my baseball

Superszme
03-05-2016, 02:42 AM
Wow that could have possibly made me dumber just reading that lol. No offence PAiN :)
How on earth did they determine what positive and negative initials actually were, apart from them spelling out words, which lets be honest hardly any body's initials spell out a word??
Offense..not offence. Point taken

fireboss
03-07-2016, 01:17 AM
This proves the fact that there is absolutely nothing on tv.

twisted
03-07-2016, 05:51 PM
I have heard that initials determine how successful you would be .....