Test, Deca, Dbol cycle

[dx3142]

Stats:
21yrs old, 210lbs @ 11% bf
Training for 5 years consistently, nutrition on point for the last 3 years.
Diet schedule:
Mon,Wed, Sat-high carbs
Tuesday-no carbs
Sun, Thur, Fri-low carbs

First cycle was test @ 500mg 12 weeks, Dbol 30mg ED 6 weeks, Arimidex .5mg ED 12 weeks

This will be my 2nd cycle. Wanting to do test E 400mg 14weeks, Deca 12weeks, and Dbol 30mg ED for 6 weeks with Aromasin 12.5 EOD 12 weeks.

PCT: clomid, Nolvadex, Aromasin. (I'm at work, I have the doses written down at home)

Some questions I have:
-During PCT, should I run hcg or no? It is my 2nd cycle not sure entirely on that. Also what do you think of hcg generate as an alternative?!
-I love Dbol but I wish I could run it longer than 6 weeks. I know it would be harsh on my liver but does anyone suggest running another oral after the dbol?!
- With these wet compounds, will the Aromasin keep a majority of the water retention off my physique?
-Being a noob, I've been experimenting with carb cycling for a solid month and a half now. Does anyone have any experience carb cycling while running a cycle similar to this? What were your results?!

Any advice is very helpful guys,thanks!

[dx3142]

I forgot to mention....height 6'1. Gonna run the dbol for 6 weeks.

Stats:
21yrs old, 210lbs @ 11% bf
Training for 5 years consistently, nutrition on point for the last 3 years.
Diet schedule:
Mon,Wed, Sat-high carbs
Tuesday-no carbs
Sun, Thur, Fri-low carbs

First cycle was test @ 500mg 12 weeks, Dbol 30mg ED 6 weeks, Arimidex .5mg ED 12 weeks

This will be my 2nd cycle. Wanting to do test E 400mg 14weeks, Deca 12weeks, and Dbol 30mg ED for 6 weeks with Aromasin 12.5 EOD 12 weeks.

PCT: clomid, Nolvadex, Aromasin. (I'm at work, I have the doses written down at home)

Some questions I have:
-During PCT, should I run hcg or no? It is my 2nd cycle not sure entirely on that. Also what do you think of hcg generate as an alternative?!
-I love Dbol but I wish I could run it longer than 6 weeks. I know it would be harsh on my liver but does anyone suggest running another oral after the dbol?!
- With these wet compounds, will the Aromasin keep a majority of the water retention off my physique?
-Being a noob, I've been experimenting with carb cycling for a solid month and a half now. Does anyone have any experience carb cycling while running a cycle similar to this? What were your results?!

Any advice is very helpful guys,thanks!

[Mountain-Man]

This will be my 2nd cycle. Wanting to do test E 400mg 14weeks, Deca 12weeks, and Dbol 30mg ED for 6 weeks with Aromasin 12.5 EOD 12 weeks.

Looks solid bro what dose are u running the test and deca at

[dx3142]

This will be my 2nd cycle. Wanting to do test E 400mg 14weeks, Deca 12weeks, and Dbol 30mg ED for 6 weeks with Aromasin 12.5 EOD 12 weeks.

Looks solid bro what dose are u running the test and deca at
Test E @ 400mg, Deca @ 200mg, Dbol 30mg. Also should I incorporate test Prop & NPP to kick start it quicker? ......or am I totally over thinking it being my 2nd cycle and stick with long esters?

[ironjulius]

im currently running the same cycle dbol, test e, deca and going to end with winny. you should run test and deca a little higher maybe 500 test 350 deca. im not a fan of kickstarting with shorters esters thats what the orals are for.

[dx3142]

im currently running the same cycle dbol, test e, deca and going to end with winny. you should run test and deca a little higher maybe 500 test 350 deca. im not a fan of kickstarting with shorters esters thats what the orals are for.
I was debating whether to run higher doses or not!!! But I got convinced on the 'less is more' cycling. Being 21 I think it'll suite me well, if not I know for next cycle!

[Dynamicgains]

Stats:
21yrs old, 210lbs @ 11% bf
Training for 5 years consistently, nutrition on point for the last 3 years.
Diet schedule:
Mon,Wed, Sat-high carbs
Tuesday-no carbs
Sun, Thur, Fri-low carbs

First cycle was test @ 500mg 12 weeks, Dbol 30mg ED 6 weeks, Arimidex .5mg ED 12 weeks

This will be my 2nd cycle. Wanting to do test E 400mg 14weeks, Deca 12weeks, and Dbol 30mg ED for 6 weeks with Aromasin 12.5 EOD 12 weeks.

PCT: clomid, Nolvadex, Aromasin. (I'm at work, I have the doses written down at home)

Some questions I have:
-During PCT, should I run hcg or no? It is my 2nd cycle not sure entirely on that. Also what do you think of hcg generate as an alternative?!
-I love Dbol but I wish I could run it longer than 6 weeks. I know it would be harsh on my liver but does anyone suggest running another oral after the dbol?!
- With these wet compounds, will the Aromasin keep a majority of the water retention off my physique?
-Being a noob, I've been experimenting with carb cycling for a solid month and a half now. Does anyone have any experience carb cycling while running a cycle similar to this? What were your results?!

Any advice is very helpful guys,thanks!

You dont want to use hcg during pct. If you use it do it prior to pct.

Dbol being harsh on the liver is relative. We dont all react the same. Either way I would recommend taking a few weeks in between running another oral. There is also more than the liver to be concerned with.

As far as keeping water down. That's another one that is dependent on the individual. Also depends how high you run that deca. I would keep it to 400 or bellow personally.

I have a lot of carb cycling experience. Its a great method for sure. for me the most effective is starting high and gradually going lower as the week progresses. I don't like to be scattered. At least when it comes to a contest prep.

[bulk_cut]

My suggestion would be to use NPP instead of DECA - it's the same compound but a MUCH shorter ester and it will kick in sooner, clear your system sooner and you shouldn't bloat close to as much on it. I would also use Tbol instead of Dbol also - You don't bloat on Tbol, you get great gains AND you keep them.

You should definitely consider running your doses higher. I agree with keeping doses lower but there is a min amount needed to see results. For example Deca/NPP is generally around 400mg/week when looking to add lean muscle mass and 200mg/week is usually used for joint pain relief. You're shutting you system down no matter what dose you're taking so you mise well use a dose that will yield gains.

[Mountain-Man]

im currently running the same cycle dbol, test e, deca and going to end with winny. you should run test and deca a little higher maybe 500 test 350 deca. im not a fan of kickstarting with shorters esters thats what the orals are for.
Agreed with those doses I do like orals at start of cycle and sometimes short esters at the end

[kawa636]

I was debating whether to run higher doses or not!!! But I got convinced on the 'less is more' cycling. Being 21 I think it'll suite me well, if not I know for next cycle!

i also was running same cycle test @600 and deca @450 dbol 50mg ed and adex @1mg eod caber. 5mg 2x aw, but ur cycle loks good too bro, i would def add caber if i was u

[kawa636]

My suggestion would be to use NPP instead of DECA - it's the same compound but a MUCH shorter ester and it will kick in sooner, clear your system sooner and you shouldn't bloat close to as much on it. I would also use Tbol instead of Dbol also - You don't bloat on Tbol, you get great gains AND you keep them.

You should definitely consider running your doses higher. I agree with keeping doses lower but there is a min amount needed to see results. For example Deca/NPP is generally around 400mg/week when looking to add lean muscle mass and 200mg/week is usually used for joint pain relief. You're shutting you system down no matter what dose you're taking so you mise well use a dose that will yield gains.

if ur diet on chek bloating is too the minimum on deca, well as for me it is.

[dx3142]

I've heard guys use hcg after cycle, I was curious if It was a necessary to run after. Then again those guys have more cycles under their belt than I as well. Going into PCT, I don't want my system to shut down from not running the right shit. Clomid, Nolvadex, and Aromasin will be sufficient for a PCT then?! I'm going for straight mass with little water retention as possible. I'm 6'1 w/ 7 in wrists, long limbs, I believe full muscle bellies? Chest is 54im, waist 33in, quads & arms I have yet to measure. I'm just trying to fill my frame dude!

You dont want to use hcg during pct. If you use it do it prior to pct.

Dbol being harsh on the liver is relative. We dont all react the same. Either way I would recommend taking a few weeks in between running another oral. There is also more than the liver to be concerned with.

As far as keeping water down. That's another one that is dependent on the individual. Also depends how high you run that deca. I would keep it to 400 or bellow personally.

I have a lot of carb cycling experience. Its a great method for sure. for me the most effective is starting high and gradually going lower as the week progresses. I don't like to be scattered. At least when it comes to a contest prep.

[dx3142]

My suggestion would be to use NPP instead of DECA - it's the same compound but a MUCH shorter ester and it will kick in sooner, clear your system sooner and you shouldn't bloat close to as much on it. I would also use Tbol instead of Dbol also - You don't bloat on Tbol, you get great gains AND you keep them.

You should definitely consider running your doses higher. I agree with keeping doses lower but there is a min amount needed to see results. For example Deca/NPP is generally around 400mg/week when looking to add lean muscle mass and 200mg/week is usually used for joint pain relief. You're shutting you system down no matter what dose you're taking so you mise well use a dose that will yield gains.
I looked into short ester & they're more expensive. Tbol? Similar gainz to Dbol but without the water you say?! I'm liking the sound of that!!!!!

[bulk_cut]

I looked into short ester & they're more expensive. Tbol? Similar gainz to Dbol but without the water you say?! I'm liking the sound of that!!!!!

Read up on Tbol I'm sure you'll like it!!

You don't need to run NPP as long as DECA - a nice cycle would be 8-10 weeks. The cost difference isn't that much. Plus especially being so young you want compounds that will clear your system quickly and DECA can linger for a long time.

[ironjulius]

and tbol is less toxic so 60mg for 6 weeks with NPP 8 weeks 300mg a week would be a great cycle

[Cobra Strike]

You wont get dbol gains from tbol...its just not strong enough.

[Dynamicgains]

My suggestion would be to use NPP instead of DECA - it's the same compound but a MUCH shorter ester and it will kick in sooner, clear your system sooner and you shouldn't bloat close to as much on it. I would also use Tbol instead of Dbol also - You don't bloat on Tbol, you get great gains AND you keep them.

You should definitely consider running your doses higher. I agree with keeping doses lower but there is a min amount needed to see results. For example Deca/NPP is generally around 400mg/week when looking to add lean muscle mass and 200mg/week is usually used for joint pain relief. You're shutting you system down no matter what dose you're taking so you mise well use a dose that will yield gains.

Several people will be able to get you nandrolone blends too. I get one from this guy robo that is npp/deca mix. Also another place I go to makes npp/deca/nandro undeconate.

[dx3142]

Did steroidplot.com. how's it look?! Steroidplot - Shared cycle (http://steroidplot.com/share/?l=14&t=9&n=3&c0_d=400&c0_c=testosterone&c0_f=enanthate&c0_s=4&c0_fr=1&c0_to=14&c1_d=200&c1_c=nandrolone&c1_f=decanoate&c1_s=4&c1_fr=1&c1_to=12&c2_d=30&c2_c=dianabol&c2_f=standard&c2_s=1&c2_fr=1&c2_to=6)