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Loose Cannon
12-11-2015, 07:26 AM
Who runs their tren higher than their test? Who runs test higher? Experimenting with a few things this time around on the tren train. What works best for you for your sex life?

Mhuddleston
12-11-2015, 07:49 AM
To me.. Personally just my Way of thinking I would think TEST should Always outweigh the Tren.. Just to me makes sense due to the Anabolic Rating of Tren Being Up to 5x as Anabolic as Test.. The Sides most of us Experience with Tren... Also the Norm or General Standards (rule of thumb) of Amount of Test Per week as the Foundation or "BASE" of any Good Cycle... I dont think I would ever Try running Test That Low or Tren that High... But thats Just My personal Opinion.

Thappy
12-11-2015, 09:43 AM
A lot of people like it but I always liked the fullness high test gives you. Higher tren just made me feel stringy

bulky1993
12-11-2015, 10:48 AM
I'm currently running 150mg tren a EOD along with 100mg test P EOD.
Feeling normal, no ed or anything, taking prami to counteract prolactin as well though.

It's all just personal preference to be honest. Find out what your body works best with and stick with it.

kubes
12-11-2015, 12:11 PM
I know some people that like lower test and higher Tren. I don't like it though. I run my test higher.

Vision
12-11-2015, 01:52 PM
I know some people that like lower test and higher Tren. I don't like it though. I run my test higher.

Im with brother all day here too..last summer I ran 750mgs test EW, 600+ tren EW (ace/E blend fucking awesome synergy), and Tbol winny oral combo... one of the best lean mass stacks I have ever ran in a while, considering I almost had my arm amputate in April (30% of my delt was removed, and yet I still have full ROM, God is great)

sides were min with tren, and I felt like a beast all day, pumps and vacularity was insane..Test/tren ratio for me is either even or near,don't matter..

If Im recomping, low test, high tren,t4, and GH.. only other time I will lower test!

draconian2014
12-11-2015, 02:19 PM
damn vision tthats a lot of the delt I am currently runny 1 cc of tren and prop ed I wanna see how I dio with everyday versus eod also 50/50 d-bol-d-rol plus M1t massive pumps

Vision
12-11-2015, 02:56 PM
damn vision tthats a lot of the delt I am currently runny 1 cc of tren and prop ed I wanna see how I dio with everyday versus eod also 50/50 d-bol-d-rol plus M1t massive pumps

Bro, I have a huge hole/scar on my delt.. it kills me, but I made one of the best transformations I have ever made after my operation..I was in the ER on April 20, I was cut open on the 21st (911 operation to save my arm), I was in hosp care for 3 weeks and released almost a month later..By June 14 I was back in the gym (wrapped/bandaged up, but not quieting),july and aug I just turned it up and transformed! I never looked back, just forward... The dr cant believe I have full ROM.. I dont get why,if you seen my arm you would question too

draconian2014
12-11-2015, 03:44 PM
that's absolutely impressive and just goes to show all the other brothers here that no matter what we can overcome just about anything . that's awesome man

Vision
12-11-2015, 04:04 PM
that's absolutely impressive and just goes to show all the other brothers here that no matter what we can overcome just about anything . that's awesome man
Brother, I don't wanna be that guy that says "God, God, it was God".. But, there was clearly some sort of divine intervention with my thought process.. whatever,whoever, God, provided me with the tools, I just decided to use what he/she (?) gave me.. I made the gym my church, my pain-blood-sweat and tears were my prayers, and the results was my salvation.. I just turned off that inner voice that I heard in my head every day at 6am!

Cobra Strike
12-11-2015, 04:58 PM
I like test higher because I just feel better. Never had a dick problem doing it either way. I also seem to get better gains with higher test.

I once ran 2g tren and 200mg test...I was more dried out but that was really about it. I didnt see any better gains. The whole theory behind it is that tren has a higher affinity to the receptors than test so in essence the tren beats the test to the receptor and keeps the test from binding.

Vision- thats a great outlook to have...take responsibility for your own situation as its no one elses fault...only then can a person move forward in their goals. Good job bro!!! Oh and I must add that there is no synergistic effect by taking tren a with tren e...they are both tren so there could be no synergy. Synergy is when one compound gets stronger because of another.

Vision
12-11-2015, 05:38 PM
I like test higher because I just feel better. Never had a dick problem doing it either way. I also seem to get better gains with higher test.

I once ran 2g tren and 200mg test...I was more dried out but that was really about it. I didnt see any better gains. The whole theory behind it is that tren has a higher affinity to the receptors than test so in essence the tren beats the test to the receptor and keeps the test from binding.

Vision- thats a great outlook to have...take responsibility for your own situation as its no one elses fault...only then can a person move forward in their goals. Good job bro!!! Oh and I must add that there is no synergistic effect by taking tren a with tren e...they are both tren so there could be no synergy. Synergy is when one compound gets stronger because of another.

Thank you for the kind words brother,and yes I pressed forward as it's the only way to go..

In regards to the synergenic effects with tren a/e, there is in fact great synergism (the definition does not necessarily pertain to amplifying an other, but rather complimentary).. By now Im sure you know of metabolic pathways of compounds, and the cleaving between these 2 esters in question.. The ace as we know, fires hard and fast and more aggressive due its bio availability in the blood reaching a meduim high/faster then E.. The ace is improving neuro/muscle activation and expression within the AR; however due to the short half life, the E provides a steady constant level within the blood ( think of cut stacks tri-tren, whats the reason for the favor of this compound)..They share the same mechanisms,but the activity down their instructed pathways will differ..

Look at it as ace is on the front lines creating lots of noise, while E is far in the back providing assistance with a slow steady support system!

I can really brake this down to the science if you wish! It's rather interesting the chemistry and relationships shared with the same hormones but the activity that may differ from the nest concerning esters weight! The metabolization ratio plays a pivotal role with their intended properties and what pathway the metabolites go down

there is a REAL complimentary "synergistic relationship" with the same hormones (AAS),but different ester weights..

Loose Cannon
12-11-2015, 07:40 PM
so test higher has been the word so far. i know a couple guys on here that always go higher tren. i usually do run test higher just bc thats what ive always been taught. maybe ill try high tren? just cant afford limp dick right now lol. high tren guys chime in please

Loose Cannon
12-11-2015, 07:41 PM
vision and cobra after reading both your posts for the past few weeks im pretty sure you guys could hold a steroid great debate pretty well id love to hear this battle lol

Cobra Strike
12-11-2015, 07:49 PM
Thank you for the kind words brother,and yes I pressed forward as it's the only way to go..

In regards to the synergenic effects with tren a/e, there is in fact great synergism (the definition does not necessarily pertain to amplifying an other, but rather complimentary).. By now Im sure you know of metabolic pathways of compounds, and the cleaving between these 2 esters in question.. The ace as we know, fires hard and fast and more aggressive due its bio availability in the blood reaching a meduim high/faster then E.. The ace is improving neuro/muscle activation and expression within the AR; however due to the short half life, the E provides a steady constant level within the blood ( think of cut stacks tri-tren, whats the reason for the favor of this compound)..They share the same mechanisms,but the activity down their instructed pathways will differ..

Look at it as ace is on the front lines creating lots of noise, while E is far in the back providing assistance with a slow steady support system!

I can really brake this down to the science if you wish! It's rather interesting the chemistry and relationships shared with the same hormones but the activity that may differ from the nest concerning esters weight! The metabolization ratio plays a pivotal role with their intended properties and what pathway the metabolites go down

there is a REAL complimentary "synergistic relationship" with the same hormones (AAS),but different ester weights..

I can agree with this post...good post brother!

enrod
12-11-2015, 08:04 PM
so test higher has been the word so far. i know a couple guys on here that always go higher tren. i usually do run test higher just bc thats what ive always been taught. maybe ill try high tren? just cant afford limp dick right now lol. high tren guys chime in please

I'm a higher tren guy, in terms of lean gains. I find the sides to be WAY more bearable with lower test. I also didn't have as much of a problem with acne. As far as sex drive, I didn't notice a decrease or increase, but I'm also a big fan of cialis. I'd say 400-600mg tren pw with 200-250mg test pw was a sweet spot for me. Triceps were like horseshoes and the shoulders bouldered. Granted this last run I was on anxiety meds, only real issue I had was night sweats and some acid reflux.

kubes
12-11-2015, 09:48 PM
Im with brother all day here too..last summer I ran 750mgs test EW, 600+ tren EW (ace/E blend fucking awesome synergy), and Tbol winny oral combo... one of the best lean mass stacks I have ever ran in a while, considering I almost had my arm amputate in April (30% of my delt was removed, and yet I still have full ROM, God is great)

sides were min with tren, and I felt like a beast all day, pumps and vacularity was insane..Test/tren ratio for me is either even or near,don't matter..

If Im recomping, low test, high tren,t4, and GH.. only other time I will lower test!

Agreed during a recomp I'm pretty tired and hungry anyway

ski748134
12-11-2015, 10:51 PM
Running a high dose of tren with a higher dose of test doesn't get much better I ran lower test once and felt completley lethargic and upped my test mid cycle and snapped right out of it one of the guys I respect the most on here swears by low test always but for me a higher dose of test always works better for me

Valerio420
12-13-2015, 01:43 AM
i have never tried tren higher than test but i think i will just stick to test higher always just makes more since