Advice on next blast

[deeznuts]

Hey gents. Posted this in the aussie section but that area seems to be pretty quiet so thought id ask here. Trying to plan out my next blast and i have a few ideas in mind but i'm still tossing up what i should run. Goal is to add quality mass

i have just finished up a test/tren blast and i am cruising at the moment, 250mg test e per week. Full bloods getting done on the 23rd and then i'm going to cruise for another 2-3 weeks after that just to give my body a little rest.

i'd like to try some new things on this blast, i want to run NPP and potentially EQ. I will be bulking and i know the good balance of AI when i use 1g test - this is normally a base for my bulks. Sides are minimal at that dose and my libido and appetite is always on point.

it will be a 20 week blast, hence why i'd like to run eq alongside - as i know it takes a while on eq to get good results. I have heard of people who love eq so much they run it at a gram per week almost all year round - just have to keep an eye on bloods and may have to donate blood.
i'd like to add it at around 600-800 per week.

however i'd also like to add npp. But i am aware that to see good results from npp you dont have to run it a crazy long time. The most i would use npp at is 600mg per week. I have used deca before starting at 600 and ramping up to 1g and i found the further up i got the harder it was for me to control my prolactin.

so here is my dilemma: should i run test and eq for the 20 weeks and then maybe introduce the NPP around 4 weeks and run it for 12 weeks and drop it 4 weeks before i drop the test/eq? I havent used npp OR eq before so i dont really want to add them both in from the get go, i'd like to be a bit more cautious just so i can monitor sides from the seperate compounds.

OR. I could run the test and eq for 20 weeks, and instead of NPP run deca for the 20 weeks aswell at 600mg and just NOT up the dose at all like i tried last time?

It might seem like alot of gear, but i have run around 2g before and this would only be slightly over.

The oils ill be using all come in 250mg/ml (except npp) and id really prefer to just pull straight ml's. So i could either run:
4ml test (1g)
4ml eq (1g)
2ml deca (500mg)

or

4ml test (1g)
3ml eq (750mg)
3ml deca (750mg)

or

4ml test (1g)
3ml eq (750mg)
2ml deca (500mg)




trying to stay away from orals this cycle - have used winny, anadrol, dbol and liquid stana before. Had good results on the drol at 50-100mg but fucked with my appetite and thats something id like to avoid this cycle. However i am wondering if there would be any benefit adding proviron in at 50mg per day? Another compound i haven't used before.

I will also be using slin at 10iu on training days on weeks 1-4(and also 8-12 and 16-20 if i respond well and have no issues.)



Not after opinions if you're just going to tell me to drop my doses or that i'm running too much or whatever. I see my doctor every 4 weeks and get full bloods every 8 weeks and know how to keep my body healthy and in check. After advice from some vets or people who have experience using those three compounds or experience with different cycles.

Thanks boys.

[enrod]

I think you'd be better off running deca than npp, simply for convenience of shots. Eq and deca have the same ester length, but prolactin seems to be more of an issue with deca vs npp for me. I like npp for a lean bulk, 6 weeks into the first 12 weeks of stage prep. Id make sure to get some caber if u intend to run deca for 20 weeks at a moderate dose (>400mg).

I would personally go with your third option, as higher nandrolones just ruin my skin, acne galore. I intend to run test/eq/tren for my next blast, so I like where you're going with it.

Proviron is a great oral, just for libido alone, aside from that I don't see too much from it. I'm curious how the introduction of slin will help, I've kept away from it for now.

I'm not entirely sure what your underlining question is, but that is a lot of gear lol. You'd probably see the exact same gains from 750/800/400 (test/eq/deca).

[Clutch7]

I'd personally choose your 3rd option. I always run EQ higher than deca and saw amazing results. I'm a firm believer of slow and steady plus longer cycles. I don't see any reason to run it that high but that's just my opinion.

I ran a similar cycle but did 750/600/300 for 20 weeks. What are your stats? I'm 6'0 205 currently, and gained solid mass with my doses.

[deeznuts]

Third is what i was thinking of running aswell. Purely to keep the deca low and run it long. As i said last time when i upped the deca is when i had the issues with the compound.

i run caber at .5mg 2x per week when using nandrolone/tren. If keeping deca at 500mg i may start at .5mg 1x a week and assess from there.

A few mates have run slin only alongside aas and had great results adding alot of size. They swear by it, and its cheap so i thought i would give it a shot. I am aware of what i need to do to safely run it aswell :)

edit: stats are 6ft 98kg(215)

[pwrlifting]

why not just run tren again with the test and eq? as im sure you know tren is always reliable for quality and lean mass:bodsmileqw:. deca always seems to bloat and hold water for everyone i know. you will get the joints benefit from the eq.

test/1g
eq/900mg
tren e/600mg

[deeznuts]

why not just run tren again with the test and eq? as im sure you know tren is always reliable for quality and lean mass:bodsmileqw:. deca always seems to bloat and hold water for everyone i know. you will get the joints benefit from the eq.

test/1g
eq/900mg
tren e/600mg


I was also considering that! I have a couple bottles of tren enth sitting around so i may consider it. I just loved the strength i got from deca.

Running tren for 14 weeks then 6 weeks off then 20 weeks again though, not sure how ny body will like that haha

[pwrlifting]

I was also considering that! I have a couple bottles of tren enth sitting around so i may consider it. I just loved the strength i got from deca.

Running tren for 14 weeks then 6 weeks off then 20 weeks again though, not sure how ny body will like that haha
14 weeks of tren-6 weeks off-20 weeks back on?.. Dont you threaten me with a good time! Lol..

[quadzilla]

I personally would run high eq and deca then test. But that's me personally. So I would run 4ml eq 4ml deca and 2ml test

[deeznuts]

I personally would run high eq and deca then test. But that's me personally. So I would run 4ml eq 4ml deca and 2ml test
How do you go with deca related sides on that ratio? I found they worsened and my dick stopped working when my deca dose got anywhere near the same as my test dose

[pwrlifting]

How do you go with deca related sides on that ratio? I found they worsened and my dick stopped working when my deca dose got anywhere near the same as my test dose

haha i would keep the test higher than the deca for sure, and/or add some cialis/tada.

[ashton77]

If you have used tren before then you will probably just throw the deca and eq in the bin after awhile. from what it seems you didn't get any terrible side effects from the tren so why not just run tren e and test e in very high doses. deca, eq and test all convert to estrogen and at the doses you want to take there is going to be a shitload of estrogen in your system. If you want to get as massive as fucking possible (and get the most bang for your buck) then insulin use is a must. If you are not a big eater the tren and insulin will help you get the most out of your food as possible (IE you won't have to eat as much). fuck proviron off- it won't do shit with the doses your taking. TAKE AN ORAL PERIOD. it will be alot more synergistic than high deca and eq. Look up M1T (an oral steroid); if you really want to be irresponsible run 50mg anadrol plus M1t.

[ashton77]

how many calories a day are you going to eat? I am not against high doses but there is no point if you can't eat enough food.

[ashton77]

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[THEPROGRAM]

Hey gents. Posted this in the aussie section but that area seems to be pretty quiet so thought id ask here. Trying to plan out my next blast and i have a few ideas in mind but i'm still tossing up what i should run. Goal is to add quality mass

i have just finished up a test/tren blast and i am cruising at the moment, 250mg test e per week. Full bloods getting done on the 23rd and then i'm going to cruise for another 2-3 weeks after that just to give my body a little rest.

i'd like to try some new things on this blast, i want to run NPP and potentially EQ. I will be bulking and i know the good balance of AI when i use 1g test - this is normally a base for my bulks. Sides are minimal at that dose and my libido and appetite is always on point.

it will be a 20 week blast, hence why i'd like to run eq alongside - as i know it takes a while on eq to get good results. I have heard of people who love eq so much they run it at a gram per week almost all year round - just have to keep an eye on bloods and may have to donate blood.
i'd like to add it at around 600-800 per week.

however i'd also like to add npp. But i am aware that to see good results from npp you dont have to run it a crazy long time. The most i would use npp at is 600mg per week. I have used deca before starting at 600 and ramping up to 1g and i found the further up i got the harder it was for me to control my prolactin.

so here is my dilemma: should i run test and eq for the 20 weeks and then maybe introduce the NPP around 4 weeks and run it for 12 weeks and drop it 4 weeks before i drop the test/eq? I havent used npp OR eq before so i dont really want to add them both in from the get go, i'd like to be a bit more cautious just so i can monitor sides from the seperate compounds.

OR. I could run the test and eq for 20 weeks, and instead of NPP run deca for the 20 weeks aswell at 600mg and just NOT up the dose at all like i tried last time?

It might seem like alot of gear, but i have run around 2g before and this would only be slightly over.

The oils ill be using all come in 250mg/ml (except npp) and id really prefer to just pull straight ml's. So i could either run:
4ml test (1g)
4ml eq (1g)
2ml deca (500mg)

or

4ml test (1g)
3ml eq (750mg)
3ml deca (750mg)

or

4ml test (1g)
3ml eq (750mg)
2ml deca (500mg)




trying to stay away from orals this cycle - have used winny, anadrol, dbol and liquid stana before. Had good results on the drol at 50-100mg but fucked with my appetite and thats something id like to avoid this cycle. However i am wondering if there would be any benefit adding proviron in at 50mg per day? Another compound i haven't used before.

I will also be using slin at 10iu on training days on weeks 1-4(and also 8-12 and 16-20 if i respond well and have no issues.)



Not after opinions if you're just going to tell me to drop my doses or that i'm running too much or whatever. I see my doctor every 4 weeks and get full bloods every 8 weeks and know how to keep my body healthy and in check. After advice from some vets or people who have experience using those three compounds or experience with different cycles.

Thanks boys.

If your goal is quality mass (which I assume also means getting donkey strong, while staying relatively dry) why not keep it simple. You said, "The oils ill be using all come in 250mg/ml (except npp) and id really prefer to just pull straight ml's. So, how about this:

250mg/wk of Test and 1 Gram/wk Deca. That's a 1ml shot of Test on Mon. And, Tues-Fri 1ml/day of Deca. This way, you have your weekends off from pinning and you only have 5 shots total for the week. Run your Prami @ 1mg/day right before bedtime. While, concurrently doing a light AI protocol. For example, I only run 12.5mg/day of Aromasin on this cycle. And, I've have had zero estro issues with multiple runs of this exact cycle. I consider my estrogen sensitivity to be average by the way. But, if you become sensitive to estro sides, just bump up the dose obviously. However, I highly doubt that you would have estro issues with 250mg/week of Test. When I run this cycle, I get strong as fuck and feel fantastic. My libido is great, and I am dry as well. Honestly, if you drink plenty of water and eat clean (watch sodium and carbs). You should have no problem staying dry and looking like a brick shithouse on this cycle. Not to mention, your strength will skyrocket! I am currently on a mission to cut some BF. But, once summer hits- I'm going right back on this cycle. It's one of my favorites- You feel relaxed and happy throughout. And, best of all- it's simple, effective and dramatic. 20wks is my average blast. So, that'll be right in your wheelhouse. I hope you give this a try sometime. I think you'd dig the results. Good luck.