1st cycle

[Papigordohua]

Hello brothers, fairly new around these parts. Hope to learn from the brothers and guide me to success. Decided to join the dark side, hopefully with the knowledge I gain here,
ill be stepping up on stage in a year or so who knows ! But for stats 23yrs ... Fairly young I know. Weight and h't 170 and 5,8 .Will be running my first cycle next week . Recently just started cutting

Will be running
Test prop 100mg EOD week 1-12
Adex .5mg E3D
Hcg 250IU 2x a week
Anavar 50mg week 1-4
anavar 100mg 4-8
i also have some t3 dosed at 100mcg
and Clen dosed at 40mcg.
Was planning on this

Clen day1-2 20mcg
day 3-4 / 40mcg
day5-6/ 60mcg
Day7-9/ 80mcg
day10-12/ 40mcg
day12-14/ 20mcg
Take a 2 week break
the t3 at the follow

Day1-6/ 25mcg
day7-10 / 50 mcg
day11-13/ 75mcg
day14-25/ 100mcg
day26-30/ 75mcg
day31 - 35/ 50mcg

day 36-40/ 25mcg


pCT will be ran as followed :
week 1 clomid : 75mg ED Nolva :40mg ED
Week 2 ,3,4 : 50mg ED. Nolva :20mg ED
my diet for the first week will be as followed



MEAL 1
3 whole omega 3 eggs
6 egg whites
3/4 cup measured dry oats


MEAL 2
6 oz chicken breast
4.5 oz brown rice
4 oz broccoli


MEAL 3 pre workout meal
2 scoop whey 100iso

2 English muffins




MEAL 4(post workout)
6 oz chicken breast
5.5 oz jasmine white rice

MEAL 5
6 oz lean ground beef
4.5 oz brown rice
4 oz broccoli


MEAL 6
2scoop of Casin Protein

[Dont wanna be old]

Welcome Friend
You came to learn ? Hell I think you should be a roll model to some .
Chiseled base to Start would make Wolverine envious .
The Dark side will never be the same .
Cheers
DWBO

[bulk_cut]

You would be MUCH better off running Test-E or C at 500mg/week for 12 weeks and using Aromasin for your AI! Aromasin helps free up bound test and is also better for you! You clearly know how to heat in order to be lean, IMHO you should use your first cycle to do a lean bulk and add some more lean muscle mass before you cut hard. Anavar is a great compound but is not really the right one for this cycle. If anything I'd use Tbol for the first four weeks. You want to stay away from the clen and T3 this cycle also. In fact I wouldn't use those at all until you're final stages right before the competition. The beiggest thing people struggle with when starting AAS is the nutrition. Since it seems you understand what you're doing in that department take it slow and get to know how the steroid(s) affect YOU because on your first cycle you have the ability to make tremendous gains!!

[Papigordohua]

Thank you brothers! I'll keep the clen and T3 stored away. I read about aromisan after I already placed the order. Also, already have 6 vials of Test P on hand. So looks like Test P all the way, just to see how my body reacts to this element entering my body. Would you guys recommended 50mg Ed or 100eOD. Don't feel I need to go much then 350-400 of test a week. My first shot if all goes as planned shall be May 16th

[JohnDoe]

I would use Test C or E (fucking LOVE Test C personally)...but since you're going to use test P - if it were me I'd be pinning it EOD.


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[JohnDoe]

Oh, and you look GREAT man...you've been working hard at this for a while and know what you're doing - it shows. Thanks for joining BOP and definitely post up and share any info where you have expertise man!! Like nutrition and workout routines...styles. It's clear to me that you know your shit in at least those areas. Thanks again for being a part of the brotherhood [emoji4]


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[Papigordohua]

Thank you bro!!! I'll be updating my diet weekly with pics and my training regiment is just basic FsT-7 routine I found online been liking it so far! Will keep doing more research on the forum. Thanks for been so welcoming guys, about to be a good 12-13 weeks

[Mountain-Man]

Welcome you put a lot of work and dedication in cheers brother

[coalminer78]

Great platform to start with....should be a fun ride

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[Loose Cannon]

welcome bro. im 24, our results are astronomical. with bf that low, the gains will be serious. seems you did your research. ur gonna be gtg dude. btw this isnt the dark side, its the light side lol

[Papigordohua]

Did my first pin last night in my left shoulder, the pain this morning is not bad at all. The muscle is a little tight but all is well. Going to hit back Nd Triceps tonight.... Let the Gains begin

[Papigordohua]

First week, not so bad. Weighed in around 168. No major changes that I can really notice my schedule has been
1-Back and Triceps
2-shoulders and Biceps
3- Legs
4- chest
5- Biceps and triceps
6/7 = off days

Currwntly doing FST-7 training with about 15 min stair master at the end of my lifts
3 mins at An easy rate
1 min at a challenging rate

[benlash74]

Looking good bro. Solid base to start from.

[twisted]

Im checkin this out and followin along youngster .....are you hispanic ?

[Papigordohua]

Yes I am Hispanic ! Thanks for following along. Currently taking down threw whole Omega 3 eggs and 3 egg whites with 2/3 cup of oats

[Papigordohua]

Was suppose to do 6 egg whites but I ran out of eggs ������

[twisted]

Yes I am Hispanic ! Thanks for following along. Currently taking down threw whole Omega 3 eggs and 3 egg whites with 2/3 cup of oats

Your doin great keep it up ...:)

[jtip1810]

Hey just seen your log, great job brother. You know how to train and eat already properly that's already a leg up on most. I also like your choice in short ester with prop, man they will keep dryer and the gains you make will be more realistic not water weight. I'll be following along as well, your gonna do great and at the end of this I think you'll be surprised at the changes in your physique.

[Papigordohua]

Thank you guys! Will be posting pictures on Friday

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, good day to make some gainz!

[Papigordohua]

So far so good! Weighed in at 165.4, will upload more pictures tomorrow. This at the moment quick pumphttp://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8568&stc=1

[suraonyx23]

Definitely looking good man. I just think 3 compounds for your first cycle is a bit much. Its your body. But I still give you props for your hard work its showing!

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[Papigordohua]

After all the advice i received I'm only doing test p 100mg EOD, keeping the rest on storage to see how my body reacts just to the test! Thank you sir

[suraonyx23]

After all the advice i received I'm only doing test p 100mg EOD, keeping the rest on storage to see how my body reacts just to the test! Thank you sir
Awesome man. Once again nice work! Keep doing what your doing!

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[twisted]

Lookimg great brother .....goodmorning sir ;)

[benlash74]

Looking pumped bro. Nice work.

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski....enjoy the holiday :)

[twisted]

Goodmorning time to get back on track brother :)

[Papigordohua]

Hit legs today. Crazy pump
8 sets of squats for 12 reps

supersets
leg extension and lying leg curl for 10x10

finished with 20 mins on the stair master, kept my heart rate at about 125

[Papigordohua]

Hey brothers, I have some field training I have to do next week. What should I do about my shots? I'll be missing about 2

[Papigordohua]

This short notice is really FUckinh with me lol

[juicedbox]

That sucks you will be missing 2 shots, hopefully you won't have any negative effects.

[twisted]

Goodmorning lets rock and roll ;)

[Papigordohua]

Twisted, I have field training next week. I will be missing 2 shots.... Do you think I'll be good?

[Papigordohua]

I was OC SPRAYED today at training and still gunna go to the gym to hit chest/back

[twisted]

Twisted, I have field training next week. I will be missing 2 shots.... Do you think I'll be good?

Goodmorning brother ;)

Either take shots earlier ...or if need be and you have no choice miss them ....

[Papigordohua]

Good morning sir! Another beautiful day to make these gains

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir .....have a great weekend :)

[twisted]

Goodmorning new week for some gainz ;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, sorry for not posting up was on vacation.

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro!

[twisted]

Goodmorning.......hows the diet and workin out goin ?

[Papigordohua]

Wassup guys ! Sorry I haven't been posted up, like I said I've been in field training. Been doing convoys and clearing out buildings. Living out here in the field lol I'll be back Saturday !

[twisted]

Wassup guys ! Sorry I haven't been posted up, like I said I've been in field training. Been doing convoys and clearing out buildings. Living out here in the field lol I'll be back Saturday !

Hey stay focused out there brother ....

[Papigordohua]

FINALY DONE WITH MY TDY. Leaving the field, barracks ate all clean. Heading straight to the store to get some groceries. Have to make up for lost time, thinking of changing up my training routine. Any advice ?

[twisted]

FINALY DONE WITH MY TDY. Leaving the field, barracks ate all clean. Heading straight to the store to get some groceries. Have to make up for lost time, thinking of changing up my training routine. Any advice ?

If its workin leave it alone brother .....add take some sets away if you want , but if its still yieldin results leave it alone :)....but since you were off for short period ease bqck into your routime to avoid any injuries :)

[Papigordohua]

Roger that !

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir time to make some gainz :)

[Papigordohua]

Goodmorning sir! Just finished 20 mins of fasted cardio. Let's make some gains

[jtip1810]

Morning brother, I really need to get my fasted cardio rolling again so that my evening workouts are not so damn long. How's the progress to this point???

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother :)

[Papigordohua]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8840&stc=1Fasted cardio complete. Good morning ! I love the changes I'm seeing so far, my traps are coming in really nice

[jtip1810]

Looking good bro, your staying really lean through this cycle which to me it the right way to do it. Great job keep grinding!

[twisted]

Looking great .....goodmorning keep up the good work :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro

[Papigordohua]

Good afternoon brothers ! It was tough taking down my 2/3 cups of oatmeal this morning, will be hitting Biceps and calves today. Got some compliments today at the beach which is kinda good. Excited to see what this week/ next week brings me. I feel as I'm in full gear mode right now.

[jtip1810]

Good afternoon brothers ! It was tough taking down my 2/3 cups of oatmeal this morning, will be hitting Biceps and calves today. Got some compliments today at the beach which is kinda good. Excited to see what this week/ next week brings me. I feel as I'm in full gear mode right now.

2/3 cup lol. I wish I got that much bro


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[twisted]

Good afternoon brothers ! It was tough taking down my 2/3 cups of oatmeal this morning, will be hitting Biceps and calves today. Got some compliments today at the beach which is kinda good. Excited to see what this week/ next week brings me. I feel as I'm in full gear mode right now.

Gotta love that feelin when the gear is full force lol ....kill those bi's

[jtip1810]

Morning brother, enjoy the day and chase the gainz!

[Papigordohua]

Morning bros, I woke this morning to do some fasted cardio but couldn't get up. So I'm going to take today and tomorrow off to give my body some rest

[twisted]

Morning bros, I woke this morning to do some fasted cardio but couldn't get up. So I'm going to take today and tomorrow off to give my body some rest

Yo rest isnt a bad thing brother .....:)

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, hope your rested up!

[Papigordohua]

Taking off and sleeping never felt so good! I have a cheat meal tomorrow too, oh god it's going to be a beautiful day. Might even the cheat meal to tonight just so I can have a great lift tomorrow

[jtip1810]

Yes sir love those cheat days and the fullness the next day. I don't have another for 2wks [emoji20]


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[twisted]

Taking off and sleeping never felt so good! I have a cheat meal tomorrow too, oh god it's going to be a beautiful day. Might even the cheat meal to tonight just so I can have a great lift tomorrow

Lmao ....gotta love those cheat meals :) ....goodmorning sir new day for some gainz :)

[twisted]

Goodmorning ...time to make some gainz :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro


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[twisted]

Goodmorning and if your a father happy fathers day :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, like wise if your a pops happy pops day!

[Papigordohua]

Good morning bros ! And happy Father's Day

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski ......:)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, how's the progress coming along?

[Papigordohua]

Good morning bros! It's going pretty well, my numbers are shooting up. Leaning more towards bringing up my deadlifts & squats up been including some form of 5/3/1 into my training and I like it

[twisted]

Good morning bros! It's going pretty well, my numbers are shooting up. Leaning more towards bringing up my deadlifts & squats up been including some form of 5/3/1 into my training and I like it

Goodmorning brother ....

nothin wrong with gaining strength ;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, its good to change things up to confuse the body and gaining some strength is always a plus.

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir ..its time to make some donuts :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, half the weeks gone so we only have half left to make progress!

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski ......and updates ? Hows it goin ?.....

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, hope all is well.

[twisted]

Goodmorning young man ....how the workoutz goin ;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, post up some progress!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, how's things progressing over here?

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother hope your grindin and reachin for those goals :)

[Papigordohua]

Hello brothers !!! Sorry for being absent !! I've been working these 12 hour shifts and it's been killing me but hasn't stop my progress! Will be posting pictures on Friday. I've added some mass and some weight slowly dialing down back on my carbs.

[twisted]

Great as long as your still makin some gainz ....:)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, can't wait to see the progress.

[Papigordohua]

GOod morning bros ! Here's some progress looking flat straight out of bed lol what do you guys think? http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9179&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9180&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9181&stc=1

[jtip1810]

Lean and mean bro...looking great!!!


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[Papigordohua]

Thanks brother, I've noticed that my face has gotten a little chubbier other than that I feel as if all is going well.

[twisted]

GOod morning bros ! Here's some progress looking flat straight out of bed lol what do you guys think? http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9179&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9180&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9181&stc=1

Shit lean and mean ....keep it up brother :)

[Papigordohua]

Thank you brother ! Out here grinding

[Papigordohua]

Next cheat meal on the 19th lol can't wait

[jtip1810]

Next cheat meal on the 19th lol can't wait

Cheat meals you say....we lost those our coach now programs those in for us!!! Your doing great man just stay focused and on track until the cheat...after the cheat you will look and feel amazing for a day or so and then start leaning out again. Keep grinding bro!!!

[Papigordohua]

Wish I had a coach lol, but I'm all about self knowledge first. I can't wait lol I plan on some nachos and some wings. I've been doing some research for my next cycle probably on December. What are you thoughts on EQ?

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir ....:)

[Papigordohua]

Good morning brothers!

[jtip1810]

Morning brotha, I really liked EQ myself but you have to watch BP while running it. I was so hungry on 800mg of EQ I was eating every 2hrs and still wasn't enough...gained some really good size and strength on it though. You will read some guys love it and others hate it...my coach is a big EQ guy so that's what got me to try it out.

[Papigordohua]

What could help with the BP? Do you have any other recommendations? Trying to stay away from Deca and tren lol especially if it's my 2nd cycle

[twisted]

What could help with the BP? Do you have any other recommendations? Trying to stay away from Deca and tren lol especially if it's my 2nd cycle

I use 10mg of cialis ed or eod ....also depends on high it is to brother !...

[Papigordohua]

So you guys think EQ should be the move ?

[twisted]

So you guys think EQ should be the move ?

Are you done this run ? What is your goals .....eq is decent for all different goals ;)

[Papigordohua]

Thoughts on tren?

[Papigordohua]

I have 3 weeks left! I wanna step on stage by next March

[Papigordohua]

Men's physique

[jtip1810]

No tren bro way to early for that....EQ or NPP if your wanting to put on more size imo.

[Papigordohua]

I think Ima go EQ, would I be able to do it with test prop? I know it's a long ester with a short ester test but I like test p so far. Haven't don't much research on NPP

[jtip1810]

I think Ima go EQ, would I be able to do it with test prop? I know it's a long ester with a short ester test but I like test p so far. Haven't don't much research on NPP

Yes you can run Test P with it but for less pinning you my just go with test E and hit both compounds 2x a week....I run short esters on cuts but longer esters on bulks since short esters do carry less water weight but on a bulk you want the extra water for added protection in the joints if that makes sense.

[Papigordohua]

Yes sir it does makes sense, the lubercated joints would be a plus. That's why people praise Deca at small dosages correct? How long would you recommended the EQ? Seems most forums are saying 16 weeks.

[Papigordohua]

The hibernation this winter is going to be long ��

[jtip1810]

Yes sir it does makes sense, the lubercated joints would be a plus. That's why people praise Deca at small dosages correct? How long would you recommended the EQ? Seems most forums are saying 16 weeks.

16wks is ok as your doing bloods to make sure you're safe and checking BP. I ran it 20wks with no issues.


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[twisted]

You steppin on stage in march correct ...how about masteron I think its an option shit your lean enough to shine from it .....I would say consider that also ..

[jtip1810]

You steppin on stage in march correct ...how about masteron I think its an option shit your lean enough to shine from it .....I would say consider that also ..

I agree with that as well...was under the impression he wanted mass first then cutting. I love mast and alway have it in my cuts.


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[twisted]

I agree with that as well...was under the impression he wanted mass first then cutting. I love mast and alway have it in my cuts.


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Mast is good you both ....you guys are lean enough ...I use it, but it isnt as affective for me as you guys

[jtip1810]

Mast is good you both ....you guys are lean enough ...I use it, but it isnt as affective for me as you guys

He's lean enough...I'm not anymore lol. Bro you could run mast it will harden you up all the same.


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[twisted]

He's lean enough...I'm not anymore lol. Bro you could run mast it will harden you up all the same.


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Hahaha ....dude your still lean bro ....

[Papigordohua]

I do want mass first to bring my physique up a notch, you do look lean enough to run mast. I've read great things about it

[jtip1810]

I do want mass first to bring my physique up a notch, you do look lean enough to run mast. I've read great things about it

It's awesome bro, harden you right up!!!


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[Papigordohua]

So for my bulk, I should go test and mast?

[jtip1810]

So for my bulk, I should go test and mast?

I say bulk on test and EQ...cut on test and mast then at the end of your cut run winny and var the last 6wks. You'll be shredded


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[Papigordohua]

We dosages do you recommend for the test and EQ ? & So run the test, mast, var and winny once it's time for showtime.

[jtip1810]

We dosages do you recommend for the test and EQ ? & So run the test, mast, var and winny once it's time for showtime.

I would say 500 test and 800eq...yes run the other leading up to the show. If you want a good coach let me know I have one. He competes still was 4th last year in the usa's in Vegas so he's for real.


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[jtip1810]

I hit you back bro...let me know if you need any more info.


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[twisted]

Goodmorning brother ...new day new gainz ....

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind


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[Papigordohua]

Another great day to be an American! Let's get these gains

[twisted]

Hell yeah chase those gainz brother ......goodmorning and Happy 4th ;)

[Papigordohua]

Good morning brothers ! Had a bowl of Pro Oats... 1 cup of oatmeal, a scoop of Iso 100 birthday cake flavor , 2 tablespoons of natural Peanut butter. Time to get this chest work In

[jtip1810]

Kill it bro...get some reps in for me, I'm on a rest day!!!


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[Papigordohua]

Hey bros, got a pretty good pump today http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9228&stc=1

[twisted]

Hey bros, got a pretty good pump today http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9228&stc=1

Nice !! Damn your lean and mean .....

[Papigordohua]

Thank you brother ! Can't imagine the package I'll bring on my next cycle with the EQ or NPP

[jtip1810]

Looking great bro.....lean as hell.


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[twisted]

Goodmorning papigordohua .....time to make some gainz

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

[Papigordohua]

Good morning Bros!! Feeling great this morning, might go in and get hit some high volume legs

[twisted]

Good morning Bros!! Feeling great this morning, might go in and get hit some high volume legs

Shit go for it man .....make those gainz :)

[Papigordohua]

Destroyed my legs & I'm sill debating on doing men's physique or classic. I want to get my legs up a lot more, have to hit this bulk coming really hard. The show is in April

[twisted]

Destroyed my legs & I'm sill debating on doing men's physique or classic. I want to get my legs up a lot more, have to hit this bulk coming really hard. The show is in April

Hey give it a shot bro !!...what you got to lose ?....if dont do as good as expected you will get an idea of what you need to do !!

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir ....new day new gainz :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, hey how hard is it to walk after the legs session...doing great over here so keep grinding!

[Papigordohua]

Good mornings lol shit in kinda struggling to get up and do my daily things lol also changing up my diet to try to put on more mass. Will be uploading it later today

[twisted]

Top of the morning brother .....its time to chase those gainz ....

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning lean and mean ;)

[Christian]

Just read through this whole thread. It's awesome to see the progress your making bro, keep up the good work! If you decide to gain some serious mass that would be awesome.

[Papigordohua]

Good afternoon bros! Hope y'all have a great weekend. & Christian thank you, keep following!!! Doing nothing but gaining mass

[twisted]

Top of the morning to ya sir ...new day new gains :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, good day to make some gainz over here!!!

[Papigordohua]

Good morning Bros !!!! Chest and shoulders today with some Iso holds and focusing on getting some crazy pump

[jtip1810]

Good morning Bros !!!! Chest and shoulders today with some Iso holds and focusing on getting some crazy pump

Same here after work brotha


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[Papigordohua]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9318&stc=1 Pretty good pump today

[PAiN]

Great log bro! You have a great frame for some serious mass!

[twisted]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9318&stc=1 Pretty good pump today

Good work bro :)

[Papigordohua]

Thank you PAiN !!! Means a lot coming from an administrator. I won't disappoint, making all kinds of gains

[ajdonutz]

Nice log brotha!! Lots of size and vascularity added since the beginning. Keep that shit up!

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[Papigordohua]

Thank you Ajordana!!! Ima keep making these gains man

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!


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[twisted]

Goodmorning broski .....time to make those donuts :)

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir .....lets rock and roll ;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother ...lets makes some gaimz :entr542:

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...how's that progress going over here?

[Papigordohua]

Take these past 2 days off, hitting legs tomorrow !

[twisted]

Take these past 2 days off, hitting legs tomorrow !

Dont start fading on us brother ...stay focused and dont stop hammering ;( .....not that restin is a bad thing :)

[Papigordohua]

lol no fading here brother !

[Mass3000]

First off, why do you feel the need for Adex and hcg during you cycle? Hcg tell your body to produce and test tells just the opposite....
You seem fairly lean, why would you need the t3/Clen avenue? Opinion, stay with two supplements and learn how they work in your body.. Then magnify with additions. That way you can chart what does what to your chemistry!!!!

[twisted]

First off, why do you feel the need for Adex and hcg during you cycle? Hcg tell your body to produce and test tells just the opposite....
You seem fairly lean, why would you need the t3/Clen avenue? Opinion, stay with two supplements and learn how they work in your body.. Then magnify with additions. That way you can chart what does what to your chemistry!!!!
Maybe cause his testi's are atrophied or maybe he doesnt want them to become atrophied !! I see no issue with running hcg for short period time durin a cycle .....now t3 and clen I agree he is lean and maybe a different option would be better ....

[twisted]

lol no fading here brother !

Haha ok stay motivated and focused :)

Goodmorning brother ....:)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, hey hcg will raise his test levels and give him a boost in energy as well so I say run it....now for the T3/Clen I personally like it but not sure the end goal so I won't say do or don't run that unless its for contest prep and then yeah give it a go.

[Papigordohua]

The clen and t3 were only ordered, if you see a few pages in I decided to keep them in storage and only run the test P. I'm the HCG on cycle to prevent atrophy

[Papigordohua]

& I got the Adex just a newbie move lol

[twisted]

& I got the Adex just a newbie move lol

Hey hold on to that adex and any AI or serm brother keep that shit on hand you never know ....I rather have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it !!

[twisted]

Goodmorning ....new day new gainz :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind...

[Mass3000]

I don't see a problem with his decision, just adding a seasoned BB perspective

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski .......time to make some gainz ....

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, lets see those flex Friday pics today!

[Papigordohua]

Morning bros ! Enjoy the weekend nd destroy dome weights. Back demolition tonight

[twisted]

Morning bros ! Enjoy the weekend nd destroy dome weights. Back demolition tonight

Gotta love a good back workout

[Papigordohua]

Replaced brown rice with 8oz sweet potatoes. Still not used to the taste lol any suggestions on how to cook them?

[twisted]

Replaced brown rice with 8oz sweet potatoes. Still not used to the taste lol any suggestions on how to cook them?

Shhh dont tell jtip, but I dont eat those things I sub them out for red potatoes ;)



imo those sweet potatoes are only good with cinnamon , vanilla and some caramelized sugar ....ahhhh the Thanksgiving Dinners of yesteryear :(

[twisted]

Morning brother ....new day new gainz :)

[Papigordohua]

Morning bros !!! Have a blessed day

[Rot-Iron66]

Welcome... I just did my 1st cycle ever at age 50, after 38 years of Natty training, but glad I came over. Also glad I waited so long.
I think you are gonna swell up just fine, a great natty base!

[jtip1810]

Shhh dont tell jtip, but I dont eat those things I sub them out for red potatoes ;)



imo those sweet potatoes are only good with cinnamon , vanilla and some caramelized sugar ....ahhhh the Thanksgiving Dinners of yesteryear :(

WHHHAAAT!!!! :nox312:....Actually red potato's are just fine. I take mine and do the steamer bag in the microwave take the skin off add cinnamon and splenda they are awesome...they are one of the best complex carbs out there....just sayin lol.

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir ......lets make some gainz :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

[Papigordohua]

Woke up this morning feeling great, hittin some calves and arms. Hope y'all have a great lift and day

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother ......;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, how was that workout?


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[Papigordohua]

Good morning, it was pretty solid. Taking off today. Will be posting pictures this Thursday or Friday

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski .....lookin forward to seeing some progress pics :)

[Papigordohua]

Jtip1810 YOU ARE LOOKING INSANE IN UR AVI.... Action figure body

[Papigordohua]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9466&stc=1

[twisted]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9466&stc=1

Looking lean and mean brother .....top of the morning to ya ;)

[jtip1810]

Jtip1810 YOU ARE LOOKING INSANE IN UR AVI.... Action figure body

Morning bro, hey figured it was time to update the old avi....was just playing around Monday night and got a good pose and pic, its all an illusion lol.

[jtip1810]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9466&stc=1

Looks like gainz to me bro...keep grinding!!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning broski .....time to make the donuts :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...lets chase some gainz today!

[Papigordohua]

Good afternoon brothers! Decided to start working on my posing today after my lift and lemme tell ya.... Posing is a workout within its self lol

[twisted]

Good afternoon brothers! Decided to start working on my posing today after my lift and lemme tell ya.... Posing is a workout within its self lol

I cant relate cause I cant pose worth shit lmao ...

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother .....time to make some gainz :)

[Papigordohua]

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9528&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9529&stc=1 Good afternoon bros !! Flex Friday weighed in at 168.4lbs

[jtip1810]

Looking very stout bro...

[Papigordohua]

Thank you !!!! Just trying make these gains

[twisted]

Goodmorning .....I think your puttin size ;) ...great work !!

[OldRugger]

Papi----I had to subscribe to your thread........ I just feel motivated to do more of EVERYTHING watching and hearing about the dedication and discipline.

great log--thanks

[Papigordohua]

Thanks OldRugger!!!!!
For breakfast I had 2 tortillas with 5 eggs and 4oz of turkey
2nd meal was 5.5oz of brown rice
3rd is right now eatting 2 english muffins and a scoop of Iso100.

going in today for a back and bicep voiime day. Hope y'all enjoy this lovely Saturday!

[Papigordohua]

2nd meal also included 5oz chicken breast with Sazon :dance5644:

[Papigordohua]

Also, I've been reading a lot guys logs and they shooting up like 10-15lbs lol I've barely put on any weight. But I do look and feel bigger. I guess all the fat turned into lean mass, but hey I'm not complaining. Less water weight the better

[QuestBar_and_Juice]

Great Log !! Keep the gains coming !! How do I subscribe to the thread ? Would like to keep up with your progress. Good Job !!

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...rise and grind we have gainz to make!!!

[Papigordohua]

Good morning bros time to destroy some legs

[twisted]

Goodmorning sir .....new day new gains :)

[OldRugger]

Great Log !! Keep the gains coming !! How do I subscribe to the thread ? Would like to keep up with your progress. Good Job !!
QB-J -- use the "Thread Tools at the top of each page of threads. It's a drop down menu just click "subscribe"

[QuestBar_and_Juice]

Thanks bro


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[jtip1810]

Morning brother, rise and grind!!!

[Papigordohua]

Good afternoon bros, back and biceps tonight !!!

[Papigordohua]

It's growing season http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9650&stc=1

[twisted]

Goodmorning ....;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, growing season is fun...cutting season not so much lol

[Papigordohua]

Morning bros, rest day for me.

[Papigordohua]

Cheat and shoulders today. Feel like I'm hold a shit ton of water, will post: take pictures tomorrow depending on how the lift goes. Hope everyone has a great weekend !

[twisted]

Cheat and shoulders today. Feel like I'm hold a shit ton of water, will post: take pictures tomorrow depending on how the lift goes. Hope everyone has a great weekend !

Kill it broski .....gotta make gainz and keep that motivation flowin ;)

[twisted]

Morning broski ....:)

[Papigordohua]

Just weighed myself at 166..... Very confused, eatting cleaner than ever. Going to Buffualo wild wings for breakfast, giving myself a cheat meal to carb up lol

[twisted]

Just weighed myself at 166..... Very confused, eatting cleaner than ever. Going to Buffualo wild wings for breakfast, giving myself a cheat meal to carb up lol

Enjoy that cheat meal .....166lb is it up or down ? Sorry I cant find any old weight posts (I do need glasses tho:()

[Papigordohua]

It's down bro lol

[Papigordohua]

Last Friday I was at 168.4

[twisted]

It's down bro lol


Last Friday I was at 168.4

Your fine !! ...dont worry dont use the scale , use the mirror to judge your progress !!!...


goodmorning and hope you had a good weekend sir :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...so what's the goal gain weight or cut up?? If you want them gainz add some more food and monitor fat gain as you progress.

[Papigordohua]

Yeah I just upped my breakfast to
1/2 cup of oats , 4 eggs, 2 of turkey
2nd meal 6oz chicken 10oz brown rice
pwo 10oz white rice 8oz of chicken
4th 10oz sweet potato 8oz ground beef
5th 1 cup of oats , 2 scoops of protein and 2 tablespoons of peanut butter.... Gains galore

[Papigordohua]

& also my pre workout meal which consist of 2 scoops of protein , 2 scoops of PB and 2 muffins

[Papigordohua]

The goal is to pack on more size, I could really care less about the numbers on the scale. Just a little weird lol walking around 166-168 but looking like 185lbs is always fun lol

[twisted]

The goal is to pack on more size, I could really care less about the numbers on the scale. Just a little weird lol walking around 166-168 but looking like 185lbs is always fun lol

its called gainz ...:)

[Papigordohua]

Post Leg day http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9697&stc=1

[twisted]

Post Leg day http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9697&stc=1

Your fine bro!! chill out and dont worry :) keep rockin and rolling broski:)

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother time to make the donuts :)

[Papigordohua]

Goodmorning Bros! Chest and shoulders layer today. And thanks twisted, just feel like I can always do better. But I have to trust the process

[OldRugger]

Your fine !! ...dont worry dont use the scale , use the mirror to judge your progress !!!...


goodmorning and hope you had a good weekend sir :)

I couldn't agree more with twisted.... How you feel and look are far better values than pure weight, which will fluctuate quite a bit throughout the day. You clearly have a handle on your nutrition, and are dedicated to it. The only thing I see is maybe the calories are a bit low IMO. Right foods for sure but a few more ounces of meats in each meal may be just the thing-- I don't think at your age, and your workload, that anything will be stored as fat if you time the feedings correctly.

[Papigordohua]

Thank you brother !!! Will take under consideration and mess around with the numbers just a bit

[twisted]

Good day brother .....lets rock and roll ;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...doing great keep grinding. I agree with these guys on the scale it can be deceiving and play mind games so unless in contest prep don't worry so much about it and watch the mirror. Now in contest prep different story, you have a target weight and look to achieve. I get the feeling we are a lot alike and nothing will ever be good enough...always thinking your not giving enough or looking your best...its a good thing bro it keeps you motivated. My coach once told me if you look in the mirror and your satisfied somethings wrong you should always want more...I agree with him.

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother .....new day new gainz :)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, time to rise and grind!!!

[Papigordohua]

APpericate the kind words bro! Good morning bros, back and biceps today with incline walking at 27 incline , @3mph for about 20-25 mins

[twisted]

Top of the morning to ya broski........:)