Elmo's 16 week contest prep with PSL and EGH

[elmo33]

Ok guys new kid on the block here. Posted my introduction and want to start a log of my 16 week contest prep for Men's Physique. I am 16 weeks out today, prep started yesterday. This will be my first competition and I am gonna give it hell. I will have a contest prep coach that will manage every aspect of my prep.

Stats: 6'2 215lbs around 8-9 percent body fat. I will be competing in Men's Physique and my goal would be to learn as much as possible about precontest nutrition, training, supplementation, and how my body responds to different variables. An ultimate goal would be to cross over into classic physique, but I am about 20 pounds of lean mass from being ready to compete. I have been on 200mg cyp a week for two years as prescribed by my MD with a few blasts and cruises with various compounds at moderate dosages. Have done, eq, tren ace and e, deca, primo, all types of test and dbol. I will attach some pics so everyone can see where I'm at in my Physique.

16 week prep will be using Purity Source Labs for the first 8 weeks and depending on my experience will use them for the last 8 weeks or use EGH as I was between those two sources to begin with.
Weeks 1-8
750 Test Cyp
600 Eq
40 mg Anavar ED
12.5 Aromasin ED
25mg Proviron increasing as directed by my coach.
3-4iu hgh pre workout
Weeks 9-16
300 Test prop
300 Masteron prop
300 Tren ace
Primo? Undecided if I will use, probably.
40mg anavar ED
Last 4 weeks 30mg Halo ED
Proviron mg as directed by coach
Aromasin 12.5 mg ED
HGH 3iu-4 preworkout

Nutrition: Being 16 weeks out I am fairly lean already so coach wants to start eating.
6 meals a day with roughly 55-60g protein and 60g of carbs with the exception of pre bed meal which is carbless. Pre training meal has around 100g carbs, for now. Glycofuse, BCCAs, and glutamine intra and post workout with 2 scoops whey post workout. This is my diet for the first two weeks. Will make adjustments as needed.

I will be getting bloods done after the first few weeks and will post them and labmax on PSL anavar initially and when the masteron and primo is started will labmax them too.

Heres some pics of current physique. I will most likely only update once a week as I have a very busy schedule.http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9043&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9044&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9045&stc=1http://brotherhoodofpain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9046&stc=1

[jtip1810]

Looking solid bro, good luck on the prep and I'll be following along!!!

[elmo33]

Looking solid bro, good luck on the prep and I'll be following along!!!
thanks brother. inwill do my best to update weekly or Bi weekly.

[elmo33]

Three days in and feeling great with current nutrition plan. Eq has my appetite through the roof. Just 750 test cyp and 600 of eq until the anavar is here. Plan will be to eat eat eat the first few weeks. All whole foods, oats, jasmine rice, red potatoes, sweet potatoes and Ezekiel bread are only carb sources. Chicken, lean ground beef, and eggs are protein sources along with whey Post WO and casein before bed. Felt strong and wide after today's back day. I'll check back in a week or so with another update.

[jtip1810]

Kill it bro, if your coach is good your gonna do fine. Most guys don't realize how much having a coach helps and how much further a good coach can help. Could be the difference in taking home some hardware at the show!!! Great job can't wait to see the updates.


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[elmo33]

Yeah I am loving the coach so far since he tripled my carb intake 😁😁 I have never competed so I was going in blind. Having a coach will be the key to my success

[xmuscle]

Good luch with ur prep will b following

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind......

[elmo33]

Morning bro, rise and grind......
smashed arms this am at work now, 30 minutes of stair master this afternoon with abs and calves. Absolutely loving my nutrition plan. I am leaner and 5 lbs heavier over the last week. If I can bring my abs in dry, hard, and nasty I think I will do well. Little breakfast porn for all of you. 3 omega 3 eggs, 4 oz skinny beef, 1 cup oats with cinnamon, 2 pieces of Ezekiel bread 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[jtip1810]

I'm headed to smash arms now...similar breakfast as mine big guy...only I get eggs and oats lol.


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[Masse]

Interesting thread, nice pics brother.
Will follow..

[elmo33]

Interesting thread, nice pics brother.
Will follow..
Come along for the ride brother

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind we got progress to make!!

[elmo33]

Feeling great today. Smashed chest this morning, 2nd meal down the hatch. Little work to do then back for a date with the stairmaster, abs, and calves. Weight holding at 209 feeling full and strong. Anavar should be here in the next few days so exited to get that started. 750 cyp, 600eq, 40 anavar as soon as it's here for 9 more weeks then the drugs will change.

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, looking lean for sure...great job!!!

[elmo33]

Okay fellas, one week of contest prep down, 15 to go. Training has been intense this week and the nutrition could not have been Better. Ate exactly what he doctor ordered and not and ounce more or less.
Current split is:
back
chest
legs
shoulders
arms
abs 5 days a week
calves every other day
30min LISS cardio 4x a week.
with 15 weeks left, i should have my condition perfect come show time. I will have two weeks before the show of paid time off from work to do nothing but eat, sleep, train and practice posing.
Gear has not changed this week as I am awaiting the var, proviron so just cyp and eq for now and 4iu hgh pre workout. As prep gets deeper I will update more often. Here's what I look like now after 6 meals today..

[jtip1810]

Okay fellas, one week of contest prep down, 15 to go. Training has been intense this week and the nutrition could not have been Better. Ate exactly what he doctor ordered and not and ounce more or less.
Current split is:
back
chest
legs
shoulders
arms
abs 5 days a week
calves every other day
30min LISS cardio 4x a week.
with 15 weeks left, i should have my condition perfect come show time. I will have two weeks before the show of paid time off from work to do nothing but eat, sleep, train and practice posing.
Gear has not changed this week as I am awaiting the var, proviron so just cyp and eq for now and 4iu hgh pre workout. As prep gets deeper I will update more often. Here's what I look like now after 6 meals today..

Looking good bro, that's a lot of cardio to start being your as lean as you are right now....its working though!!!

[elmo33]

Looking good bro, that's a lot of cardio to start being your as lean as you are right now....its working though!!!
Yeah I am curious to see what coach says when I see him next week as far as cardio/nutrition. If I can keep metabolism high and eat like I am now and keep leaning out should make the end phase less painful. I am just happy that all of this is from nutrition and training....drugs haven't changed yet with the exception of eq. First time using PSL and I hope it is as good as my coach says. Gonna be a wild ride!!

[jtip1810]

Yeah I am curious to see what coach says when I see him next week as far as cardio/nutrition. If I can keep metabolism high and eat like I am now and keep leaning out should make the end phase less painful. I am just happy that all of this is from nutrition and training....drugs haven't changed yet with the exception of eq. First time using PSL and I hope it is as good as my coach says. Gonna be a wild ride!!

PSL is solid bro you have nothing to worry about...they been around for a long time and always had a good rep.

You are very lean now, I assume your coach will slow you down a bit so that you don't peak at the wrong time....I could be wrong not a coach just been a part of a few preps with my coach. Either way bro when those sups change look out, your gonna look amazing!!!

[elmo33]

One more....eating roughly 4,000 cals a day

[elmo33]

PSL is solid bro you have nothing to worry about...they been around for a long time and always had a good rep.

You are very lean now, I assume your coach will slow you down a bit so that you don't peak at the wrong time....I could be wrong not a coach just been a part of a few preps with my coach. Either way bro when those sups change look out, your gonna look amazing!!!
Your probably right. This is why I'm so glad I hired a coach. His decision. His specialty

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, we got gainz to make today!

[elmo33]

Aright BOP checking in here about 2 weeks in to contest prep. Feeling great, weight is the same at around 208-210 but fuller and leaner. Running PSL test cyp 750mg/week and eq 600mg/week , 40mg anavar ED as soon as it arrives, proviron 25mg a day for now and 4iu hgh preworkout. Meet with coach tomorrow to see how he thinks my body has reacted to all the FOOD and I think he will be pleased. Nutrition has been 100% perfect. I have eaten every meal, on time, to the ounce. Only had water and black coffee that's it.
When anavar is here I will labmax it and post it and bloods will be done for PSL test cyp in about 3 more weeks and I will post those as welll.
Here's a pic from chest day yesterday.

[jtip1810]

Looking good bro, I would double that var dose though.


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[elmo33]

Looking good bro, I would double that var dose though.



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gonna do my best to do exactly what my coach says. He may up it as we get closer. Still over 14 weeks out

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, yes always listen to your coach...sure he's waiting to see how you react before changing any dosing since gaining weight isn't ideal in prep.

[elmo33]

Little update for everyone. A little over two weeks in. Will keep food the same for two more weeks and reassess. Still just the cypionate, eq, proviron, and aromasin for now until the anavar gets here. It was out of stock so PSL is shipping ASAP. Going to put my order in for all the other goods soon and start primo a little early around 12 weeks out and run it 600mg throughout. Back is feeling good and should look even better once the waist slims out. Little back shot from today

[jtip1810]

Looking good bro, that primo will help out appearance a bit.


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[elmo33]

yeah clean gainz. Remember, I'm doing MP not BB. So I'm not a mass monster. 6'1-2ish and 208 this morning. Gonna come in shredded and try to put on a good 10-15lbs this next year and do it again.

[jtip1810]

I love primo bro...I'm more of a BB and almost all my cycles are geared towards clean lean gainz.


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[ajdonutz]

Thickening and tightening up man! Keep it up! Should do well in npc physique once you get stage ready

[elmo33]

Thanks brother. I feel good about where I'm at being 14 weeks out with really no different AAS than ive ran just recreationally when not competing. Excited to see what busting ass and once I start the tren, mast, primo, var, winstrol does :D

[crazylegs80]

Just got caught up here, I was late! Looking great bro!

[elmo33]

Gonna make sure I log my weight at least every two weeks and more frequent as I get closer So I don't forget.
7/10/16: weight 207

just had my glorious breakfast 4oz lean ground beef, 3 whole eggs, 1 cup oats with cinnamon and stevia, and 2 slices of Ezekiel bread. Mmmmmm. Now it's time to blast these arms. Off to the gym!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

[elmo33]

Morning bro, rise and grind!!!

Yessir time to go smash back and burger and fries afterwards, coaches orders.mmmmm

[elmo33]

Anavar TD! Added to the mix! Thanks Macedog for your communication help.

[TexasRock]

Awesome progress! Good luck in your contest

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, so how was that cheat meal?? I have not had one in oh 3wks now and on top of that we got more cardio added in...fun times over here bro lol.

[elmo33]

Morning bro, so how was that cheat meal?? I have not had one in oh 3wks now and on top of that we got more cardio added in...fun times over here bro lol.
Cheat meal was good but honestly I wasn't craving anything so wasn't all that great. Also had me bloated for 3 days. Delicious though. Ready to get this week started back tomorrow. Primo starts now. Went with EGH for the last 8 weeks of injectables and running PSL for front 8. Test cyp, anavar, EQ, proviron is PSL, then primo, masteron, tren ace, test prop is EGH. PSL has been good so far. Little too early to tell. 2 more weeks and Ill get total T tested for the PSL cyp. Exicted to start the primo from EGH which is a first time for me.

[jtip1810]

Yeah I know what your saying cheat meal is a love/hate thing...never as good as you remembered but still good enough and then feel like shit for a few days afterwards.

[elmo33]

Little update for everyone following. Weight is 217 last 3 mornings. Still running PSL cyp at 750 eq at 600 var 40 a day, proviron 25 a day, and EGH primo at 700/week. Will probably start the masteron and tren next week and switch cyp to prop and drop eq. Will be 12 weeks out this Friday. Feeling and looking great on all products. EGH and PSL are extremely smooth and painless. 4cc through a 25g no problem. I am getting total and free T done this week and will post results which will be from 750mg of PSL cyp for the last 4 weeks.
Decided to go with EGH for the last 8 weeks of gear for contest since they had a sale. Can't wait to try them and I love the 20ml jugs!!!

[jtip1810]

12 weeks out...shit just got real bro.


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[elmo33]

12 weeks out...shit just got real bro.


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Yes it did!!! Ready to get peeled. Only issue I'm having is slight water retention in ankles and abdomen. Happens with hgh with me but I haven't upped the dose or anything so not sure why I'm retaining. Will increase water intake and try potassium tabs with meals for the next few days. First time I took hgh it took HCTZ for the water to shed

[jtip1810]

Yes it did!!! Ready to get peeled. Only issue I'm having is slight water retention in ankles and abdomen. Happens with hgh with me but I haven't upped the dose or anything so not sure why I'm retaining. Will increase water intake and try potassium tabs with meals for the next few days. First time I took hgh it took HCTZ for the water to shed

Gh does that to me to bro...sides should lessen the longer your on though.


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[elmo33]

Yeah been on for about 4 months just weird it left and now coming back but didn't increase any dose

[jtip1810]

Yeah been on for about 4 months just weird it left and now coming back but didn't increase any dose

Very strange...same brand/batch of hgh the entire time? Is it possible you had some bad gh before?

The only other thing I would suspect would be estro is a lil high. Your doing bloods soon and that should help in determining the factor for the water retention at the very least.


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[elmo33]

Very strange...same brand/batch of hgh the entire time? Is it possible you had some bad gh before?

The only other thing I would suspect would be estro is a lil high. Your doing bloods soon and that should help in determining the factor for the water retention at the very least.


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same hgh all bought at same time and I know it's real because baseline igf1 went from 169 to 550. Could definitely be estrogen related

[jtip1810]

same hgh all bought at same time and I know it's real because baseline igf1 went from 169 to 550. Could definitely be estrogen related

Sounds like an estro related issue then...try adding a little more AI over the next few days and see if that helps at all.


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[elmo33]

Will do brother. Your looking stacked!! What's your end goal? Do you want to compete?

[jtip1810]

Will do brother. Your looking stacked!! What's your end goal? Do you want to compete?

Thanks bro...no real end game just see how far I can go. Competing is prolly in my future, coach wants me to gain a lil more before this next cut after that we make a decision on competing. We have my wife doing 2 shows in October (women's physique)...we are slightly competitive in nature so that will push me to do it as well lol.

I can honestly say I/we do this for fun and it's quality time in the gym away from all the real life everyday drama.


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[elmo33]

Thanks bro...no real end game just see how far I can go. Competing is prolly in my future, coach wants me to gain a lil more before this next cut after that we make a decision on competing. We have my wife doing 2 shows in October (women's physique)...we are slightly competitive in nature so that will push me to do it as well lol.

I can honestly say I/we do this for fun and it's quality time in the gym away from all the real life everyday drama.


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You sound about like me. It's been just a passion of mine for a few years but now decided to take it to another level and compete. I love the sport because I feel it makes me a more well rounded person in all aspects of life and more motivated at work, home, and not just in the gym

[badgalaxie]

Thanks bro...no real end game just see how far I can go. Competing is prolly in my future, coach wants me to gain a lil more before this next cut after that we make a decision on competing. We have my wife doing 2 shows in October (women's physique)...we are slightly competitive in nature so that will push me to do it as well lol.

I can honestly say I/we do this for fun and it's quality time in the gym away from all the real life everyday drama.


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Hey what are those dates in October?. I'm pretty sure we don't live to far apart. I mean like within 3 hours. I'm doing one at the end of October


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[elmo33]

Hey what are those dates in October?. I'm pretty sure we don't live to far apart. I mean like within 3 hours. I'm doing one at the end of October


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October 15th brother

[elmo33]

October 15th brother

Whoops you were talking to jtip my bad

[jtip1810]

Hey what are those dates in October?. I'm pretty sure we don't live to far apart. I mean like within 3 hours. I'm doing one at the end of October


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My bad long morning just now logging on....October 8th and 29th...how close are you to the St. Louis area???

[elmo33]

Update for everyone following. Weight is 212 this morning. Looking leaner and fuller. Great strength and energy. Friday everything switches to short esters and the fun stuff.
Last 11 weeks will be:
50mg test prop ED (EGH)
200mg test cyp every four days (EGH)
50mg tren ace ED (EGH)
75mg primo ED (EGH)
50mg masteron ED (EGH)
40mg Var ED (EGH)
12.5 aromasin (EGH)
50-125mg proviron daily ramping up as directed by coach (EGH and PSL)
8 weeks out will start 50mg winny ED (EGH)
3-4 weeks out will start halo 30mg a day (pharmacon)
both PSL oils are smooth and PIP free so I am pleased with that. Awaiting free and total T from PSL cyp at 750mg a week after 4 weeks on. I will post the labs here when I get them.
progress pics

[badgalaxie]

You should kill it at the show.


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[elmo33]

You should kill it at the show.


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thats the plan brother. This will be my first time competing so it's only up from here!!

[jtip1810]

Looks like a comp cycle to me...lots of pinning lol. Looking good bro and that tren/mast/winni will change your entire look...keep on grinding!!!

[ironjulius]

alright brother im following along. keep it up

[elmo33]

AM Weight is 214. Under 11 weeks to go. See coach on Friday and I'm assuming my food will be ripped from me. It's about that time though. Cardio will intensify too I'm sure.
My diet the last 5 weeks was exactly this:
meal 1- 4oz lean ground beef, 3 whole eggs, 1 cup oats, 2 slices Ezekiel bread.
1 scoop glycofuse+bcaas intraworkout, 2 scoops glycofuse 10g glutamine, 2 scoop whey postworkout
meal 2- 7oz chicken, 1.5 cups jasmine rice
meal 3- 7oz chicken, 10oz red potatoes, 1 cup broccoli
meal 4- 7 oz lean ground beef, 10oz sweet potato
meal 5- 7oz chicken, 1 cup brown rice, 1 cup brocoli
meal 6- 5 whole eggs, 2 cups spinach, 35g casein protein

excited to see what will change!

[badgalaxie]

My bad long morning just now logging on....October 8th and 29th...how close are you to the St. Louis area???

3 hours. I'll be in KC so we should definitely meet.


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[jtip1810]

3 hours. I'll be in KC so we should definitely meet.


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No shit...my coach is in KC! Wife is doing Allstars in KC in October as a 2nd show so we can meet up for sure.

[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo...arms day over here bro!!

[elmo33]

Morning Elmo...arms day over here bro!!
Just hit some shoulders, calves, and abs!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, how was the workout??

[elmo33]

It was good man. Been a shitty week though. Been so tired not feeling right got bloods and estriadol was 163....I've used all American peptides for years for there aromasin but this is definitely bunk. Got some Natco aromasin (xtane) from ADC on the way

[jtip1810]

It was good man. Been a shitty week though. Been so tired not feeling right got bloods and estriadol was 163....I've used all American peptides for years for there aromasin but this is definitely bunk. Got some Natco aromasin (xtane) from ADC on the way

HOLY SHIT...163 I'm sure you felt bad. Props for getting bloods and figuring out the problem there are to many guys that just place little importance on bloods. If you can afford a cycle then you can afford a $60-$70 blood panel but to many bypass this entirely.

[elmo33]

I always get bloods because sometimes high and low feel very similar. Major difference for me is bloating with high. Will recheck next week hopefully it will be better. Lesson learned. Only human grade AIs from now on...

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, yeah get some good AI and remedy that estro issue with a quickness.

[elmo33]

Alright brothers time to put the pedal down! Less than 10 weeks out now. Coach made a few diet changes for the next two weeks but not many. Cardio stays at 30mins 4x a week for now.
Meal 1- 4oz ground beef, 3 whole eggs, 1 cup oats
Meal 2- 7oz chicken, 1 cup jasmine roce
Meal 3- 7oz chicken, 10oz red potatoes, 1 cup broccoli
Meal 4- 7oz chicken, 10oz sweet potatoes
Meal 5- 7oz chicken, 1 cup brown rice, 1 cup broccoli
Meal 6- 5 whole eggs, 2 cups Spinach, 30-40g Casein
pre workout I have 1tbsp MCT oil, intraworkout is 1 scoop glycofuse and 10g BCAAs, post workout is 1.5 scoop glycofuse and 10g glutamine, also 2 scoops whey isolate.
gear
50mg EGH prop ED
50mg EGH tren ace ED
50mg EGH Masteron P ED
75mg EGH Primo E ED
250mg PSL Test Cyp every 4 days
40mg Var ED
25mg Pfizer aromasin from the dictator
25mg Bayer Proviron
50mg pharmacom winny will start in two weeks
30mg pharmacom halo last 3 weeks
3iu hgh preworkout

Will post update pics this week

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, looks like you still get quite a bit of food...I can't handle all the carbs my body hates them but man do I like em lol.

[elmo33]

Morning bro, looks like you still get quite a bit of food...I can't handle all the carbs my body hates them but man do I like em lol.

Yeah I thought I would be eating less and I feel like I'm behind conditioning wise but coach keeps telling me I'm ahead....he's the pro so ill listen to him. I imagine at 8 weeks out we will change a lot

[jtip1810]

Yeah I thought I would be eating less and I feel like I'm behind conditioning wise but coach keeps telling me I'm ahead....he's the pro so ill listen to him. I imagine at 8 weeks out we will change a lot

Yeah listen to your coach bro...most of the change usually happens from the 6wk out point. That's about the time you really get into the heart of things and making changes more frequently to diet and cardio but as lean as you are now that may not be the case for you. Keep grinding bro.

[elmo33]

Morning fellas. Feeling much better after just 2 days on the Pfizer aromasin. Not nearly as bloated. Will get bloods done on Monday to see where estrodaol and test levels are. Just under 9 weeks out. Will meet with coach next Friday and he has warned me there will be lots of changes but I'm ready! Winny starts next Friday and my gear will be as follows until I add the halo last few weeks.
test prop 50mg ED
mast prop 50mg ED
tren ace 50mg ED (may go up)
primo 75mg ED
test Cyp 250mg every 4 days
50mg var ED
50mg winny ED
25-150mg proviron ED ramping up as directed by coach.
12.5-25mg aromasin depending on bloods
last 3 weeks 30mg halo ED
pic I took this morning. I think I'm on track just got to keep grinding and get peeled

[jtip1810]

Looking good bro and that winni will make you look insane...love that stuff with some var added!!!

[elmo33]

Thanks brother! Excited to see what I'll look like cause I'm already leaner than I've ever been because this is my first time competing

[jtip1810]

Morning brother, chase it today bro make the last day of the week count!!!

[elmo33]

Alright so I'm 8 weeks out this Saturday. Met with coach today and made some adjustments to diet and cardio. Also added in winny, nolva, and upped the proviron to 50mg ED.
new diet
meal 1 4oz chicken 2 whole eggs 1 cup oats
meal 2 7oz chicken 1 cup jasmine rice
meal 3 7oz chicken 8oz red potatoes, 1 cup brocoli
meal 4 7oz chicken 8oz sweet potatoes
meal 5 7oz chicken 1 cup brown rice 1 cup brocoli
meal 6 5 whole eggs 2 cups spinach 30g casein
intraworkout shake is down to 1/2 cup glycofuse 10g bcaas and post is 2 scoops whey 1/2 scoop glycofuse 10g glutamine

cardio is upped from 4x a week 30 minutes to 6x a week for 40 minutes.
Gear is as follows
50mg test p ED
50mg tren a ED
50mg mast p ED
75mg primo ED
40mg var ED
40mg winny ED
25mg aromasin ED
20mg nolva ED
50mg proviron ED
3iu hgh preworkout.

I will post a progress pic in 2 weeks when I'm 6 weeks out. It's time to buckle down and get peeled! Dickskin is the goal. Weighing 214.8 this am.

[badgalaxie]

Man I wish I had that much to eat. I'm dying. Lol


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[elmo33]

I'm really surprised I'm still eating this much. He is happy with conditioning but I will be seeing him weekly from here on out and I'm sure we will change things up weekly

[badgalaxie]

I'm really surprised I'm still eating this much. He is happy with conditioning but I will be seeing him weekly from here on out and I'm sure we will change things up weekly

You are looking good. I haven't been cut on any more calories but between 10-3 I'm so hungry


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[elmo33]

Yeah I bet so your not eating much at all

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...

[elmo33]

Morning brother! Smashing some shoulders, abs, and calves as we speak!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, killed back and rear delts last night and after work gonna kill some shoulders and chest...we finally get a cheat meal tomorrow so I'm excited lol. After that we get more cardio and a diet adjustment so give and take away...

[elmo33]

Awesome brother. I'm about to go hit arms and abs. Cardio is basically everyday now for me at 6 days a week. I expect some drop in weight this week

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, how you doing over here?

[elmo33]

Doing good brother on vacation but still doing two a days once for cardio and one for weight training. My wife is not happy lol. No time for skipping sessions less than 8 weeks to go!! Here's an updated pic. Feeling a little tighter

[jtip1810]

Looking great bro...enjoy that vacation!!!

[elmo33]

Thanks brother. Proud of myself. Wife and kids ate burgers, fries, pizza, hellava lot of ice cream, candy bars, brownies, gummies, pb&js, chic fil a and tons of other delicious goodies. I didn't have even a taste of any of it. Cooked and brought all my meals for the week, hit every gym session twice a day cardio and weights and now I feel good heading home knowing I did everything needed this week to be the best I can be despite bein on vacation. I'm trying to win!!!

[QuestBar_and_Juice]

Doing good brother on vacation but still doing two a days once for cardio and one for weight training. My wife is not happy lol. No time for skipping sessions less than 8 weeks to go!! Here's an updated pic. Feeling a little tighter

Nice shorts bro lol. Good job not touching all that "good food "your family was eating. That's discipline !!!

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[jtip1810]

Morning bro...time to get after it, the gainz are waiting...

[elmo33]

Met with coach today. Definitely tighter in the last week. Made some diet changes two meals are tilapia instead of chicken and rice meals are down to 1/2 cup and potato meals are at 7 oz now. Pre bed meal changed out casein for 4 oz chicken. Cardio staying the same at 6 days a week for 40 minutes. I'm getting lean and weight is staying the same. The tren,mast, primo, var winny combo is shining!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro....these changes will make a huge difference in 2 wks time. Your already lean as hell can't wait to see you all dried out and shredded!!!

[elmo33]

I'm excited to see the changes! Only negative thing is I'm having some right knee pain that is bearable but hindering leg workouts and noticeable with cardio. I'm pushing through though. Started clen today as well

[PawelTRT]

Great prep !!!
Are you planning on using T3 as well or just clean?


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[PawelTRT]

Clen


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[elmo33]

Just clen. Started at 40mcg and trying to decide whether to do 2 week on 2 week off approach or get some ketofin and just run it last 6 weeks until show. Coach doesn't think I need thyroid hormones at all says I will be shredded without them and they would make me flat

[jtip1810]

Just clen. Started at 40mcg and trying to decide whether to do 2 week on 2 week off approach or get some ketofin and just run it last 6 weeks until show. Coach doesn't think I need thyroid hormones at all says I will be shredded without them and they would make me flat

Do 2 on 2 off its works better and your CNS gets a much needed break IMO.


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[elmo33]

That's what I'm thinking too

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, time to chase those gainz

[PawelTRT]

10/4
Keep grinding brother


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[elmo33]

Son of a bitch. Day 2 on PSL clen at 80mcg. Shake city over here. Thanks for the clen macedog

[jtip1810]

Son of a bitch. Day 2 on PSL clen at 80mcg. Shake city over here. Thanks for the clen macedog

Bro I'm telling you its no worse at 160mcg....well not IMO anyways.

[elmo33]

Whew....I don't know brother lol. Gonna stay at 80mcg for a few more days then may go up. Weirdly enough the best i have felt is after taking preworkout. It seems to relax the shakes which i would expect it to exacerbate it but it did the opposite. I am feeling tighter by the day though so loving it

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...hey how are you sleeping on clen???

[elmo33]

Funny that you ask because last night I think I got two hours max....don't know if the clen or the fact like my 10 month old was up all night running a fever. I definitely did not sleep well. Think I'm gonna grab some ketofen or Benadryl and see if that helps

[jtip1810]

Funny that you ask because last night I think I got two hours max....don't know if the clen or the fact like my 10 month old was up all night running a fever. I definitely did not sleep well. Think I'm gonna grab some ketofen or Benadryl and see if that helps

LOL, how'd I know right...keto will help just take it like an hr before bed and you'll be out. How's the weight loss going on it so far?? I'm dropping like half a lb a day right now, it'll slow up soon but great start for my cut.

[elmo33]

My weight is not dropping all that fast but I don't think coach wants me to drop too fast. I'm down about 2 lbs in the last week but looking way tighter

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...

[elmo33]

Morning man. 50mg Benadryl and I slept like a baby last night :) feel refreshed. Already smashed arms this am and will hit cardio later

[jtip1810]

Morning man. 50mg Benadryl and I slept like a baby last night :) feel refreshed. Already smashed arms this am and will hit cardio later

I took Keto and did the same finally...feel so much better today, I'm getting near 100% just a few more day of antibiotics.

[elmo33]

Weight was 209.2 this morning which is 6lbs down from last Friday. Met with coach and he wants me to refeed tomorrow. 150g of extra carbs :) I'm gonna be a happy guy!! Small changes in diet no more post workout shake it's tilapia and rice. Rice meals lowered to 3/4 cups post training and 1/2 cups in eve ring. Potato meals from 7 to 6oz. Not much chang since I dropped so much this week and he said I was a little flat
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[jtip1810]

Weight was 209.2 this morning which is 6lbs down from last Friday. Met with coach and he wants me to refeed tomorrow. 150g of extra carbs :) I'm gonna be a happy guy!! Small changes in diet no more post workout shake it's tilapia and rice. Rice meals lowered to 3/4 cups post training and 1/2 cups in eve ring. Potato meals from 7 to 6oz. Not much chang since I dropped so much this week and he said I was a little flat
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Nice brother....clen and a clean diet does amazing things right!!! I also get a refeed this weekend so looking forward to it. Not sure what I want to have though hmmm....what about you bro???


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[elmo33]

He said 150g of carbs from either oats, sweet potatoes, or jasmine rice. I'm gonna do an extra cup of oats 3x cause oats are my favorite!!

[jtip1810]

He said 150g of carbs from either oats, sweet potatoes, or jasmine rice. I'm gonna do an extra cup of oats 3x cause oats are my favorite!!

Yeah your in full prep like my wife so hers is also programmed. Take some of that powdered PB and sugar free syrup add that to your oats...that's some good shit lol.


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[elmo33]

I've ate it the same way the whole prep and love it! Cinnamon, Splenda, walden farms sugar free calorie free syrup, and just a little bit of walden farms sugar free Calorie free apple butter....THE BOMB!!!

[jtip1810]

I've ate it the same way the whole prep and love it! Cinnamon, Splenda, walden farms sugar free calorie free syrup, and just a little bit of walden farms sugar free Calorie free apple butter....THE BOMB!!!

That's what I'm talking about...apple butter is awesome. I'll have to look for the sugar free...I have some homemade but can't really eat it at the moment lol.


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[elmo33]

That's what I'm talking about...apple butter is awesome. I'll have to look for the sugar free...I have some homemade but can't really eat it at the moment lol.


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walden farms man. Buy from vitacost.com they have zero calories I don't know how they do it. There jellies and syrups are amazing

[elmo33]

Yep I'm sure they add a minimal amount of calories. I use them so sparingly I have never worried about it. The thing with condiments is use them in moderation and consistently so one day your not consuming 200 cals in calories in condiments with 5,000 mg sodium snd the next day 20 calories and 1,000 mg sodium.

[elmo33]

Ok fellas I'm 6 weeks out today from my first Men's Physique competition. I woke up at 207.2 this morning which is 2lbs less than yesterday and 8lbs I lost this week. Lost too much this week metabolism is cranking. So coach is giving me an extra 150g of carbs which will come from oats. I imagine I am about 6 percent bodyfat at 207.2 so I will probably be on stage at around 198 after losing water. I have to say o am impressed with all the oils from EGH, the orals from pharmacom, and the clen from PSL that macedog let me review is definitely legit. Some great sponsors here. Here's a pic from this morning. flat as a pancake but hopefully this refeed will help

[elmo33]

Thanks brother. Hopefully I will try some of your products in the future. I'm more than stocked up at the moment though. Always exciting to get new sponsors!

[jtip1810]

Ok fellas I'm 6 weeks out today from my first Men's Physique competition. I woke up at 207.2 this morning which is 2lbs less than yesterday and 8lbs I lost this week. Lost too much this week metabolism is cranking. So coach is giving me an extra 150g of carbs which will come from oats. I imagine I am about 6 percent bodyfat at 207.2 so I will probably be on stage at around 198 after losing water. I have to say o am impressed with all the oils from EGH, the orals from pharmacom, and the clen from PSL that macedog let me review is definitely legit. Some great sponsors here. Here's a pic from this morning. flat as a pancake but hopefully this refeed will help

Morning bro, hey you think you look lean now just wait until you see what this next 6wks brings....your gonna be amazed!!!

[elmo33]

I am very excited. Coach is worried I'm losing too fast so wants me to refeed tomorrow as well. I guess he's right 8 lbs in a weeks is too much

[mike0715]

Hey bro I read this entire thread and want to thank you for taking time out of your day to do it. I got a lot of great diet tips, workout routines, cycle suggestions and a ton of meal ideas. Great thread. Did you ever post your labs for psl cypionate? I didn't see it.

UOTE=elmo33;436833]I am very excited. Coach is worried I'm losing too fast so wants me to refeed tomorrow as well. I guess he's right 8 lbs in a weeks is too much[/QUOTE]

[mike0715]

What about your test levels?

OTE=elmo33;425172]It was good man. Been a shitty week though. Been so tired not feeling right got bloods and estriadol was 163....I've used all American peptides for years for there aromasin but this is definitely bunk. Got some Natco aromasin (xtane) from ADC on the way[/QUOTE]

[jtip1810]

I am very excited. Coach is worried I'm losing too fast so wants me to refeed tomorrow as well. I guess he's right 8 lbs in a weeks is too much

same here I lose scout the same but that's clen for ya.


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[elmo33]

Test levels 2521

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...busy few days for me but ready to rock and roll. How's the clen treating you??? I'm off starting today and sad but happy at the same time...it's good to have the break but man I'll miss the fat loss.

[elmo33]

Hey bro the clen is definitely working. Even after two refeed days in a row my weight still dropped a pound the following day. Weird though I am feeling super flat. Not sure if I'm just on metabolic overload and need more carbs or what the deal is. Estrogen is super low which can cause to be flat I know but coach wants me low low so I guess I'll be flat until the day of show when i carb up

[elmo33]

Pretty good week for me this week. Had two refeeds after dropping about 8lbs from last week. Weight is stable at 207 last three days after refeeds. Feeling kinda flat but that's part of the process. The PSL clen is 100% legit. Shakes, increased temp, all the usual sides and I don't think it's a coincidence I dropped 8lbs the first week on it.

[jtip1810]

Pretty good week for me this week. Had two refeeds after dropping about 8lbs from last week. Weight is stable at 207 last three days after refeeds. Feeling kinda flat but that's part of the process. The PSL clen is 100% legit. Shakes, increased temp, all the usual sides and I don't think it's a coincidence I dropped 8lbs the first week on it.

Morning bro, we have similar result this week on clen and on a refeed I gained nothing...in fact the next day or so I dropped a few lbs. I have ran clen each of last few cuts the stuff works fantastic if your dialed in and using it correctly...its my 2wks off it now though and I'm sad lol.

[elmo33]

Yeah I am very pleased. As you said the side effects are barely noticeable after a few days. Feels more like extra energy now that the shaky/jittery feeling in the beggining. I think I'm just gonna do one week off and then go back on for 2 more weeks which will be the last two weeks before the competition.

[jtip1810]

Yeah I am very pleased. As you said the side effects are barely noticeable after a few days. Feels more like extra energy now that the shaky/jittery feeling in the beggining. I think I'm just gonna do one week off and then go back on for 2 more weeks which will be the last two weeks before the competition.

If so take keto or benydril to help reset the receptors


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[elmo33]

Benadryl every night my friend

[jtip1810]

Benadryl every night my friend

You got it [emoji106]


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[jtip1810]

Morning brother...time to rise and grind!!!

[elmo33]

Woke up at 202.8 this morning! Damn! 4 lbs loss in a day. Saw coach this morning he said another refeed is due. My metabolism must be kicking!! Definitely tighter by the day

[jtip1810]

Woke up at 202.8 this morning! Damn! 4 lbs loss in a day. Saw coach this morning he said another refeed is due. My metabolism must be kicking!! Definitely tighter by the day

Killing it bro...I'm off clen right now and added my other sups so weight stalling.


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[elmo33]

I got a few more days then gotta take time off clen. 5 weeks out tomorrow!

[twisted]

Morning elmo ...congrats on bein chosen for review of offshore products ....;)

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...time to chase some gainz big dawg!!! You win some products??? Congrats...I have used asia pharma that is some amazing stuff right up there with watsons!!!!

[elmo33]

Morning bro. Yeah I'm stoked to try them out! Man it is crazy how The body responds on a daily basis when being so strict. Was 202.8 so have extra 200g carbs. 204.6 yesterday and then wake up today at 202.2. First time experiencing how well refeeds work when depleted!! This is getting fun now!! 10 more days and I start the halo! Wish me and anyone I come in contact with luck haha and also upped the tren to 75mg ED

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, 75mg ED that's a lot of pinning right there lol. How's the sides on the current dose treating you???

[elmo33]

Morning homie. Sides are not bad honestly. One thing I've noticed is I cannot stand to hear whining or babies crying lol. And I have to boys under 2 so I keep having to talk myself down when they are screaming haha. Other than that I'm good. Woke up at 201.0 this morning which is lightest I have been this prep and probably the lightest I've been since high school. I'm probably about 5% body fat and vey happy with progress. I got some Humatrope on the way should be here this week and I cannot wait to see what pharm hgh does to me.

[jtip1810]

Morning homie. Sides are not bad honestly. One thing I've noticed is I cannot stand to hear whining or babies crying lol. And I have to boys under 2 so I keep having to talk myself down when they are screaming haha. Other than that I'm good. Woke up at 201.0 this morning which is lightest I have been this prep and probably the lightest I've been since high school. I'm probably about 5% body fat and vey happy with progress. I got some Humatrope on the way should be here this week and I cannot wait to see what pharm hgh does to me.

Morning bro...I wish my metabolism worked like yours lol. As for the tren I usually pin mine 3x a week to cut down on pinning...I tried them all ED/EOD/3xwk and can't tell a difference honestly. Sounds like your still killing it bro...keep grinding your gonna do great on stage!!!

[elmo33]

Yeah I'm weird I don't mind pinning every day. I'm giving it hell. Been tired as a mofo this week but pushed through. Can't believe This weekend will be 4 weeks out! Getting close!!

[twisted]

Top of the morning elmo ....:5557f:

[jtip1810]

Morning brother...time to rise and grind!!!

[elmo33]

Been a little under the weather fellas but haven't missed any training or meals. Pushing through this week hope to be back to 100% next week! Weight is staying at 201.8 last three days. Definitely leaner every week. This Saturday will be 4 weeks out! Man it has flown by! Start the halo next week!!

[jtip1810]

Make sure your resting bro a day or two will not derail you in anyway....I know its hard to do but worth it!!!

[elmo33]

Make sure your resting bro a day or two will not derail you in anyway....I know its hard to do but worth it!!!
No rest for the wicked!!!

[twisted]

Top of the morning elmo :) ......:0010:

[elmo33]

Good day for me my biggest refeed all prep :) extra 200g carb from oats and rice PLUS 4 pop tarts, 4 rice crispy, 2 bagels!!! Coaches orders of course!! On cloud 9 ☁️☁️

[elmo33]

Chest workout was amazing of course!! Fueled by 4oz chicken, 2 eggs, 2 whole bagels, 1.5 cups oats, 1 pop tart, 1 rice crispy!! Love refeed days!!!

[jtip1810]

Chest workout was amazing of course!! Fueled by 4oz chicken, 2 eggs, 2 whole bagels, 1.5 cups oats, 1 pop tart, 1 rice crispy!! Love refeed days!!!

Sounds good bro...re feed this weekend for me!!!!

[Flankstar]

How many weeks out are you now brother? And yeah that's a highhhhhhh glycemic refeed Lolol do you even sugar?! :):):) I'm right there with ya tho sounds bomb for a refeed. Little dirty but sounds dope!! Pop tarts for the win!

[Papigordohua]

Hey bro Ima send you a PM, decided to do a show last minute

[elmo33]

Hey bro Ima send you a PM, decided to do a show last minute
Sounds good

[elmo33]

How many weeks out are you now brother? And yeah that's a highhhhhhh glycemic refeed Lolol do you even sugar?! :):):) I'm right there with ya tho sounds bomb for a refeed. Little dirty but sounds dope!! Pop tarts for the win!
ill be 4 weeks out on Saturday. This is my first dirty refeed on prep in 12 weeks. He wants to see how I respond to the simple carbs. I dropped 14lbs in two weeks so he thinks I need it and I agree

[Flankstar]

Uhhh?? Why would you ever in a million years want or even NEED to drop that much weight? That's a severe deficit either by calorie and/or cardio marathons overdone. That's a lot of precious tissue my friend. May I ask if you do body comp tests each week. Especially for dropping that much.


ill be 4 weeks out on Saturday. This is my first dirty refeed on prep in 12 weeks. He wants to see how I respond to the simple carbs. I dropped 14lbs in two weeks so he thinks I need it and I agree

[jtip1810]

That clen really did its thing bro...14lbs in 2wks. You should be looking really lean now, in for updated pics bro!!!

[elmo33]

We didn't want or need to drop that much. I had two refeed days in a row after dropping 7lbs in three days and woke up lighter 2 days after refeed. My metabolism is just on fire. My base calories are still high. 300g carbs, 275-300 protein, 40g fats. And I've been refeeding on top of that. Test, Tren, mast, primo, var, winny, proviron, aromasin, clen, hgh.....I'm a fat burning machine. I have NOT lost muscle mass....

[Flankstar]

Gotcha just seems to be quite a bit of loss. I'm interested to see the bf% before and after the weight drop and also pictures.

Calorie are a bit whacky but seems to be working although I would be concerned with my fats that low and protein that high. 43/43/14 ratio is different but your body seems to be responding and on fire. I just get concerned when dropping that much. No way could you have 14lbs to lose at 4wks out is what I'm getting at.

4 weeks out is gonna come fast brother.


We didn't want or need to drop that much. I had two refeed days in a row after dropping 7lbs in three days and woke up lighter 2 days after refeed. My metabolism is just on fire. My base calories are still high. 300g carbs, 275-300 protein, 40g fats. And I've been refeeding on top of that. Test, Tren, mast, primo, var, winny, proviron, aromasin, clen, hgh.....I'm a fat burning machine. I have NOT lost muscle mass....

[elmo33]

I'm not carb sensitive and I respond better to more carbs less fat. I probably only have about 5-8 lbs left to lose. I'll post pics this week

[twisted]

Tgif brother .....;)

[jtip1810]

Flex Friday bro..show off that new leaner look!!!

[elmo33]

Sup brothers. Just saw coach. I filled out nicely very full and hydrated but spilled over with all those carbs yesterday. (I think it was about 800-900g. Only up 2lbs today but I am sure will be back to baseline and less water and leaner tomorrow will post pics brothers

[elmo33]

Man I love the way your body responds at his point in prep. Huge refeed with 800+ carbs on Thursday. Woke up 2 lbs heavier next day and spilled over, woke up today 4 lbs lighter at 199.8 still full but no spill! Feeling good! 4 weeks out today!! Here's a late flex Friday pic!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, you really leaned out and I see no muscle loss at all!!!

[elmo33]

Thanks brother hitting shoulders now and this is by far the best I've looked. Full but lean. Usually I'm either full and bloated or flat and lean. Best of both worlds today!!

[twisted]

Morning broski .....time to make the donuts :56zEO0U79M6XH.jpg:

[elmo33]

Morning twisted!! Fasted cardio done, now it's time for breakfast and a chill day! Football all day!

[twisted]

Morning twisted!! Fasted cardio done, now it's time for breakfast and a chill day! Football all day!

Enjoy that breakfast .....kick feet up and watch some ball :dLfw5F9043B8MWh.jpg

[elmo33]

Enjoy that breakfast .....kick feet up and watch some ball :dLfw5F9043B8MWh.jpg
Couldn't help myself came to hit Arms real quick before the games ����

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...same plan here but got quads today!!

[twisted]

Happy monday sir :)

[elmo33]

FasTed cardio here I come!

[elmo33]

40 minutes LISS on stairs or incline treadmill. Try to keep heart rate around 130

[elmo33]

Just once a day I don't foresee us going any higher. Weight is dropping easily. 199.2 to morning and best I've looked.

[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo...it's Monday so we have a new week of challenges and goals to meet!!!

[mastermolnar]

Looking really good bro. You got great rear delts. Id work on bringing up your tris a bit becausr they get washed out with such developed rears. Good luck my dude!

[mastermolnar]

Man I love the way your body responds at his point in prep. Huge refeed with 800+ carbs on Thursday. Woke up 2 lbs heavier next day and spilled over, woke up today 4 lbs lighter at 199.8 still full but no spill! Feeling good! 4 weeks out today!! Here's a late flex Friday pic!!

And thats what im talking about!!! The arm proportion is much more symmetrical here. Looking mean brother. Cant wait to hear how you do. What division and class are you showing?

[elmo33]

Thanks brother. Men's physique class D brother

[mastermolnar]

Thanks brother. Men's physique class D brother

Good shit. Youll do well in mens physique. Just keep peeling back the layers and come in full. Thats the tough part with competition is the ultra lean and dry product without the flatness that comes with depletion. Any idea what your carb up will look like and timing? Got a coach or flying solo?

[elmo33]

I've got a coach. It will all depend on condition. He said if I'm lean enough he probably will try to keep it similar to diet I've followed throughout. He's not big on drastic changes

[jtip1810]

Morning big dawg....time to rise and grind and exceed our goals!!!

[elmo33]

Yessir had a killer chest workout this morning! I am starting to see all the hard work paying off! less than 4 weeks to go!

[elmo33]

You always train in the morning?
80% of the time I train at 5am. Up at 345. Breakfast at 4. Gym at 5. Cardio at 9pm before bed. It's tough some days. On weekends I usually do fasted cardio around 7am and gym around 11am

[twisted]

80% of the time I train at 5am. Up at 345. Breakfast at 4. Gym at 5. Cardio at 9pm before bed. It's tough some days. On weekends I usually do fasted cardio around 7am and gym around 11am

I got to hit gym early also !!:56zEO0U79M6XH.jpg:

[twisted]

Top of the morning brother .......:U2D5Ax0KpyjYZ7c89.j

[elmo33]

5 am fasted cardio wooohoo. NOT. Can't wait for my damn oats I am hangry!!! 25 days out !!

[twisted]

Top of the morning elmo ;):entr542:

[elmo33]

Morning twisted! Taking a complete test day today. Been about 3 weeks since I had a total rest day with no cardio or training. Yesterday I could tell my CNS system needed rest. Could literally barely finish my leg workout. Also had been able 10 days straight of training and cardio. As much as I hate a full rest day. I really think my body needs it

[elmo33]

One of the signs of maturity is to notice and listen Your body. Nothing worse like rest day but a must is a must. Recovery is a very important part.

Being my first contest my instinct is to do more more more. This is the one thing I have not been the best at. My coach recommended a rest day at least every 4 days but I have not being doing that. I need to be better about this and realize the importance of rest

[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo...rise and grind brother!!! Listen to your coach bro he's got your best interests in mind and you will feel amazing after a rest day....I had to learn the hard way more is not always better!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning brother .....tgif :lifghn153:

[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo...rise and grind bro there is progress to make and its Flex Friday!!!

[elmo33]

Felt so much better after rest day yesterday. Woke up lightest I've ever been at 197. Saw coach, he is very happy and I'm getting a refeed tomorrow. Things are going well!! Told him I trained seven days straight and he said DO NOT TRAIN MORE THAN 3 DAYS IN A ROW. Noted. I have overlooked rest this prep but Ive made great progress

[twisted]

Imagine the progress with the component called REST :)

Keep going bro not far now.

Very true ^^^^^ rest is key in muscle growth

[elmo33]

I'm excited for after the show as well it's gonna be GAINZVILLE! Got my gh, slin, diet protocol lined up. Looking to add 10-15lbs of lean mass this offseason

[twisted]

I'm excited for after the show as well it's gonna be GAINZVILLE! Got my gh, slin, diet protocol lined up. Looking to add 10-15lbs of lean mass this offseason

I wanna do slin ....shit I have 2 slin pens .....but I havent used it before and its something you dont wanna guess about haha.....so hey I wanna hear your feed back about it and how you used it !!

[elmo33]

I haven't really used it but maybe two or three times preworkout but this will be every day multiple times a day. I'm very comfortable with slin as I give it to patients everyday at my job. IMO it is NOT dangerous unless you are uneducated. You must know how to accurately dose and always have carbs and a glucometer on hand in case. People that get in trouble with slin are people who don't use insulin syringes or don't know units vs ius etc. or are dumbasses and take 10iu the first time. I'll start a post show log for yall don't worry

[jtip1810]

Morning bro...slin scares the shit out of me, coach keeps trying to get me to try it out though.

[elmo33]

Seriously it's not dangerous unless you are medically clueless. I guess I feel different cause I'm an RN and give it daily

[twisted]

I haven't really used it but maybe two or three times preworkout but this will be every day multiple times a day. I'm very comfortable with slin as I give it to patients everyday at my job. IMO it is NOT dangerous unless you are uneducated. You must know how to accurately dose and always have carbs and a glucometer on hand in case. People that get in trouble with slin are people who don't use insulin syringes or don't know units vs ius etc. or are dumbasses and take 10iu the first time. I'll start a post show log for yall don't worry

I will appreciate that brother .....I agree I wanna use it and try it ...I invite the size it brings to the table .....I am alittle worried that size will look fluffy and bloat , but then again Im fine with that to a degree ....I will be following you !

[elmo33]

With slin less is more. If your slammin 10units 5xa day your probably gonna get fluffy. I think 5 or less timed with high carb low fat meals pre and post workout will shuttle nutrients into the muscles when they can absorb them and not store as fat.....guess we will see :)

[twisted]

With slin less is more. If your slammin 10units 5xa day your probably gonna get fluffy. I think 5 or less timed with high carb low fat meals pre and post workout will shuttle nutrients into the muscles when they can absorb them and not store as fat.....guess we will see :)

Makes perfect sense .....I cant wait to see/hear the outcome of this :av-6743:

[twisted]

Top of the morning brother .....its sunday hope your weekend was a decent one :)

[elmo33]

Morning twisted! Back today! Had an extra 200g carb yesterday for refeed and didn't gain a pound actually woke up .2lb lighter. Will see what coach says

[jtip1810]

Morning twisted! Back today! Had an extra 200g carb yesterday for refeed and didn't gain a pound actually woke up .2lb lighter. Will see what coach says

Morning bro, did the same thing only about 400g carbs lol and lost a lb...funny how that works out.

[twisted]

Nothing wrong with eatin more and still losing weight .....happy monday sir ;)

[elmo33]

Feeling good today fellas! 198.0 and looking lean and mean! Less than 3 weeks out! Balls to the wall now! Can't wait to see finished product!!

[jtip1810]

Feeling good today fellas! 198.0 and looking lean and mean! Less than 3 weeks out! Balls to the wall now! Can't wait to see finished product!!

Get it brother...

[badgalaxie]

Your killing it!!!!


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[twisted]

Morning sir ......time to make some donuts :stewiesteroidssmall

[elmo33]

Hitting some chest now at 5am lets get it

[jtip1810]

Good morning Elmo....you should really be dialed in now and leaner than ever bro. Hope the chest workout was good!!

[elmo33]

Damn brothers 195.6 this morning. Lightest I've been seen a teenager!! Feeling good today legs were smashed at 0500 now it's work time. Cardio before bed tonight. Will see coach Friday and get yall some flex Friday pics!!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro....looking forward to the Flex Friday's!!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning elmo ......time to make the donuts ;)

[elmo33]

Morning brothers! Woke up at 194.8 and hit fasted cardio. Sent coach pics and he wants a refeed today so extra 200g carbs from rice and oats. I'll see him tomorrow so curious to see what weight does and how I fill out! It's flex Friday for all you picture whores tomorrow!!!!

[twisted]

Goodmorning elmo .....time to make the donuts ....tgif :bodsmileqw:

[elmo33]

Okay brothers it's flex Friday! Saw coach today and he says I'm lean as needed but holding water. Got bloodwork done last week and it came back today....estrogen through the roof wtf!!!! 283 highest it has ever been. Using 25mg pfiZer aromasin but upping to 50 and adding 40mg nolva. Should be shredded when the water leaves! Oh yeah he wants a another tefeed today as I didn't gain a ounce on my tefeed yesterday. Here's my flex Friday pic! As you can see lean but abs are holding water

[jtip1810]

Damn bro your looking great...

[badgalaxie]

Lookin good


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[elmo33]

Thanks guys but you ain't seen nothing yet!! When I get estrogen down I will be peeled. Bloodwork is crucial. Thought it was the hgh holding water but I always get bloodwork if there is any question

[Papigordohua]

shredddedddddd!!!!!

[jtip1810]

Morning bro, love to hear when guys are doing blood work to many of us bypass this most important aspect of what we do...smart on your part brother!!!

[twisted]

Good afternoon elmo ....enjoy your weekend and make some gainz sir ;)

[elmo33]

So guys did yall know that tren will give false high e2 readings is estriadol is checked using Roche ECLIA method?!?!? This is definitely true as no way my estrogen is 283 on same dose of aromasin and LESS TEST than last time when estrogen was 3 but it was checked using LC/MS/MS method. Guys, if your on tren, you have to get the estriadol tested using the LC/MS/MS method or it will be false high!! I can't believe I just realized this....I bet my estrogen is really tanked....

[elmo33]

Yeah I started doing research because me and my coach were like there is no way...makes no sense. Test dose is cut in half since last check when estrogen was 3 and proviron has doubled to 100mg and masteron in my system too which can help with estro control too. And what really got me thinking was my second cycle I got legit gyno from not running an AI (dumbass) and my estrogen was only 95 and I had bitch tits with huge nots that only went away by pounding letro and nolva. So if it was 283 I would have hella gyno and nipple sensitivity and I have none......so glad I figured this out and I bet there are a shit ton of guys crashing there estrogen because of this!!

[jtip1810]

Yeah I started doing research because me and my coach were like there is no way...makes no sense. Test dose is cut in half since last check when estrogen was 3 and proviron has doubled to 100mg and masteron in my system too which can help with estro control too. And what really got me thinking was my second cycle I got legit gyno from not running an AI (dumbass) and my estrogen was only 95 and I had bitch tits with huge nots that only went away by pounding letro and nolva. So if it was 283 I would have hella gyno and nipple sensitivity and I have none......so glad I figured this out and I bet there are a shit ton of guys crashing there estrogen because of this!!

Damn bro, I just assumed you knew this already or I would have said something to you. When on tren there is an estro sensitive panel to use that will give you correct readings. If you tanked you then you would know brother...joints would be achy and you would feel like shit not to mention hella lack of sex drive.

[elmo33]

Damn bro, I just assumed you knew this already or I would have said something to you. When on tren there is an estro sensitive panel to use that will give you correct readings. If you tanked you then you would know brother...joints would be achy and you would feel like shit not to mention hella lack of sex drive.

To be honest I don't feel that bad. Sex drive is not great but 100mg vitamin V and I'm a concrete pole for an hour whether I like it or not :D

[twisted]

To be honest I don't feel that bad. Sex drive is not great but 100mg vitamin V and I'm a concrete pole for an hour whether I like it or not :D

Hahah vitamin V hahaha .....yeah tren will give false elevated e2 level ... I was fortunate enough to find out myself about 1 yr and half ago :(

[elmo33]

Well guys had a major setback. Caught a stomach virus and threw up and diarrhea for 24hours. No food, no fluids could be kept down. Extremely dehydrated and almost 24 hours without food. I lost 10 lbs. not want i needed 2 weeks out. Yall say a quick prayer for a quickl recovery and that it won't hurt me too bad

[twisted]

Well guys had a major setback. Caught a stomach virus and threw up and diarrhea for 24hours. No food, no fluids could be kept down. Extremely dehydrated and almost 24 hours without food. I lost 10 lbs. not want i needed 2 weeks out. Yall say a quick prayer for a quickl recovery and that it won't hurt me too bad
Uh oh !!! Wtf cmon !!!! Dont be discouraged !!! Get up dust yourself off and keep it moving !!!

[elmo33]

Trying to get down some tilapia and rice hope it stays!!

[badgalaxie]

Just like everyone else said. Keep your head up , this will pass in a couple days and you will right back up. Dude your looking great so don't let this get you down. Get some rest. We all will be thinking about you buddy.


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[twisted]

Goodmorning elmo ..hope your feeling better :)

[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo...hope your feeling better today bro.

[elmo33]

Feeling much better! Coach wants me to rest today and make sure I get all my meals and h20 in. Back at it hard tomorrow for the last 11 days!!

[badgalaxie]

Glad your feeling better buddy


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[jtip1810]

Morning Elmo, hope your resting up brother!!!

[elmo33]

Man I feel like a million bucks! Woke up a very lean 189.4 and gave the stair masters hell for fasted cardio! Time to give it all I got these last 12 days!! Feels so good to feel good again!! I'm glad I took the two days to rest as I feel re energiZed

[jtip1810]

Man I feel like a million bucks! Woke up a very lean 189.4 and gave the stair masters hell for fasted cardio! Time to give it all I got these last 12 days!! Feels so good to feel good again!! I'm glad I took the two days to rest as I feel re energiZed

Damn bro we are almost the same weight now lol...your much leaner than I am though. Glad your doing well, kill this last few days brother. I have another 3wks myself so gonna start doing some 2 a day sessions of cardio after her show this weekend.

[twisted]

Top of the morning elmo ...hope your all back to normal brother :muscu0:

[elmo33]

Morning fellas! Feeling good just knocked out my 50 minutes on the stairs fasted now time to eat! 187.4 this am and flat as a pancake. Coach called for a refeed so will have an extra 200g carbs today from oats and rice. Will see coach this afternoon too