Can ya help a Brother out?

[Plumcrazy]

This is from a post I responded to but didn't get any advice back, maybe you all can help me out. I had said I would be ordering soon, probably purity source, they seem to get good reviews unless you guys know a better source. I had said I wanted to do Test/Dbol/Deca/Anavar. I read that deca and test are a good combo but Dbol and Anavar are too, I wanted to stack them all and use anti-estrogens or whatever was suggested for liver and gyno protection. I said I was on 200mg/ml test inj. and then recently switched to gel (prick MD!) but actually now I'm on nothing because the gel is worthless. I Dropped off from the gym for nearly a month now, motivation, drive, and libido are tanked. I need a serious jump start because I know if I start feeling better I will be at the gym every day. For now I'm in a rut. Read my response below sent to the member who said "you don't know what your doing"....
My response:

"I dont know what Im doing, I guess I just figured it would work out ok. Other people doing the same combinations, getting good results, but your right I need to stop and think it through some more. Gains are just coming harder these days, I still kill it, maybe too hard, but its been a lifetime of heavy weight through my body and changing that isnt an option. Anything less than total exhaustion each and every time and I get depressed and down on myself, I know its messed up. Its not the recipe for gains, its the recipe for injury...this I know. So help me out, point me in a new direction, a basic plan for packing on size and getting through this next tricky phase of a long time lifters life, the wake up feeling like a truck ran you over phase because you beat the shit out of yourself for too long.

Stats:
age - 40
weight - 200
height - 5'11"
years lifting - Forever
cycles ran - only when I was younger, 18-25 or so. I played with what was available in the gym test and dbol, I never had anyone to help me set up an intelligent stack, thats what Im hoping for here. Im on TRT, 200mg/wk but thats been forever so Im sure Im used to it by now. The products I mentioned above are ones I have tried before but not all together.
diet - I stay lean, avoid sugar and fats, keep carbs to a minimum but not on any special diet. I take Synth-6 after and drink Hyde before.
goals - Like I said I have been lifting forever, started at 12 with plastic weights filled with cement, I couldnt get enough. When I got old enough to join a gym I hit it so hard, obsessed Id say, sometimes twice a day, borderline addiction. I have lifted heavy my entire life because its what my body and mind want, I never concerned myself with gains or appearance, if it came it came, I didnt care I just wanted to crush myself. Cycle heavy and Light routines? Never. Now, 8 orthopedic surgeries later and some pain to deal with , I want one more trip back to the top, no not like I did before but I do want to put size on, bulk up, screw definition, size size and more size.

So I still have the drive and motivation, just like you will no matter how old you get, I mean everyone has a last day in the gym or we would see more 80 year olds in there, but Im no where near ready to stop, I just want to maximize my gains to match my effort.
Any direction would be greatly appreciated, its been a great site so far so Im hoping for the best. One other thing, I added Deca to my list because I read that it aids in joint pain, that would be a plus for me. Im not so sure how good the oxyvodkacreatine drink is for me. lol, yeah, I know Im not alone!!

Thanks for your help."

So that's it in a nutshell, if you could just steer me to a bulking cycle, inj. Frequency , dose size, and length of cycle I'd be very happy and post all results. Your probably like, jeeze is that all!! Whatever you can do to help would be great.
Thanks again
PlumCrazy

[FrankTheTank]

Why not just do Test to get back in the swing of things? Keep it simple. Do 500mgs Test Enanthate a week that will help you feel better and get you out of the funk.

[bulk_cut]

Here's the problem as I see it. You're asking for other people who have taken the time and dedication to educate themselves about everything that's involved with steroids, building cycles, nutrition and safety to do all the work for you - when in fact you should and NEED to spend the time doing it YOURSELF!!! How would you know of someone gives you bad advice? Do you just plan on doing whatever anyone says? What if you have a problem during your cycle how are you going to know what to do? What happens the next time you want to blast are you just going to ask more people to tell you what to do? I could probably understand your post if you were 20 and didn't know any better but not at 40. It's your life bro! Steroids come with risks and educating yourself comes first and for most before doing the cycles. So, with that said - spend more time on here reading, asking questions and also use Google a LOT!! but don't believe everything you hear - this goes back to the asking questions part!!


Good luck!!!

[JohnDoe]

I would start with test cypionate & deca. If you absolutely want to use an oral - try Tbol or Dbol. Get something for your liver though like NAC, Milk Thistle, and/or TUDCA.

Come on over and checkout the Advanced Elite Labs section and we will take good care of you. [emoji1303]

[Plumcrazy]

That's why I came here, brutal honesty. I am educating myself daily, reading all I can but while I'm learning I wanted to get some basic gear and advice to get rolling, not an exotic plan or something geared towards a professional bodybuilder. If the advice came in the form of chemical structures I would know better and leave it for another day. I hope I'm smart enough to confirm the advice I'm given through long time members and other trusted sources. I am a weight lifter, when I go into the gym I pound the shit out of myself, over training? Probably but we all go in for our own personal reasons, I had a shitty life as a young guy and thank God I chose lifting steel over drinking, it also helped me manage my anger and keep my family together. So, if I do a basic cycle and feel more motivated and get out of this funk then I'm good. At 40 I don't care anymore, I don't need mirrors in the gym, I just need to feel strong and push heavy shit around so I don't feel like killing people :o)
Advance Elite offered a basic plan, Test and Deca, I think that's a safe choice and what I wanted to do anyway. I personally think it's fine to tap into the knowledge base and expertise of the members of this outstanding website, I will never reach a full level understanding of AAS at a molecular level or use words like synergy or aromatize but I will gain enough knowledge to be able to understand what people are recommending. So I will let this run on a little longer to see if any other members want to tell me to go research or maybe just give me some basic advice, If I was super knowledgeable about AAS, I would have no problem sharing that knowledge with anyone who asked me a question , why would I let them walk away to figure it out themselves and potentially fuck up bad when I could have helped, I think most here would agre, that's what brothers do for each other.
Peace

[Fist]

You don't need brutal honesty, you need time reading and learning in the compounds you want to run. Also what about on cycle dieting and nutrition? Post cycle?? Have all the pse things lined up an rally your tools ready to go before you start. Then you will. E ready for some of the vets to answer questions instead of someone making the decision for you:)

[Plumcrazy]

Sounds good to me. Thanks for the advice, you guys are legit and actually it surprised me at the level of effort you put into what I thought initially was just just point and shoot. I had no idea before coming here how thought out these plans really were and I have much more respect now for you guys that truly walk the walk. I guess I will step back and see what I can learn.

[sledgehammer]

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[Plumcrazy]

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[PAiN]

I would jump back on TRT asap 200mg every week like you were doing and during that time research the other compounds you are wanting to add in here. We can help you out no problem with any questions you have about compounds along the way.

All the sponsors here are legit, just read through the forums and decide who you would like to use. No reviews are ever edited or deleted so you can make and informed decision who to use.

[suraonyx23]

You don't need brutal honesty, you need time reading and learning in the compounds you want to run. Also what about on cycle dieting and nutrition? Post cycle?? Have all the pse things lined up an rally your tools ready to go before you start. Then you will. E ready for some of the vets to answer questions instead of someone making the decision for you:)
This right here.

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[crazylegs80]

I throw in my opinion here, I'm with the other fellas about research, and you've said you are doing that, so that's good, keep it up. The only compound advice that I'll throw out there is you seem like a guy that needs a boost with some quick results, although I don't agree with that outlook, I do understand it. So if that is the case, and you don't mind frequent injections, look at short esters. Test Phenylpropionate or propionate instead of test e or cyp, NPP instead of Deca, Masteron Propionate instead of Masteron E, ETC...
Good luck with whatever you decide bro.

[sledgehammer]

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I had replied but realized I already did in another post you made.


Quote Originally Posted by Plumcrazy View Post

swimfan.65:

Your right, I dont know what Im doing, I guess I just figured it would work out ok. Other people doing the same combinations, getting good results, but your right I need to stop and think it through some more. Gains are just coming harder these days, I still kill it, maybe too hard, but its been a lifetime of heavy weight through my body and changing that isnt an option. Anything less than total exhaustion each and every time and I get depressed and down on myself, I know its messed up. Its not the recipe for gains, its the recipe for injury...this I know. So help me out, point me in a new direction, a basic plan for packing on size and getting through this next tricky phase of a long time lifters life, the wake up feeling like a truck ran you over phase because you beat the shit out of yourself for too long.

Stats:
age - 40
weight - 200
height - 5'11"
years lifting - Forever
cycles ran - only when I was younger, 18-25 or so. I played with what was available in the gym test and dbol, I never had anyone to help me set up an intelligent stack, thats what Im hoping for here. Im on TRT, 200mg/wk but thats been forever so Im sure Im used to it by now. The products I mentioned above are ones I have tried before but not all together.
diet - I stay lean, avoid sugar and fats, keep carbs to a minimum but not on any special diet. I take Synth-6 after and drink Hyde before.
goals - Like I said I have been lifting forever, started at 12 with plastic weights filled with cement, I couldnt get enough. When I got old enough to join a gym I hit it so hard, obsessed Id say, sometimes twice a day, borderline addiction. I have lifted heavy my entire life because its what my body and mind want, I never concerned myself with gains or appearance, if it came it came, I didnt care I just wanted to crush myself. Cycle heavy and Light routines? Never. Now, 8 orthopedic surgeries later and some pain to deal with , I want one more trip back to the top, no not like I did before but I do want to put size on, bulk up, screw definition, size size and more size.

So I still have the drive and motivation, just like you will no matter how old you get, I mean everyone has a last day in the gym or we would see more 80 year olds in there, but Im no where near ready to stop, I just want to maximize my gains to match my effort.
Any direction would be greatly appreciated, its been a great site so far so Im hoping for the best. One other thing, I added Deca to my list because I read that it aids in joint pain, that would be a plus for me. Im not so sure how good the oxyvodkacreatine drink is for me. lol, yeah, I know Im not alone!!

Thanks for your help.


"I know your looking for swimfan.65 to reply but I will chime in if that's cool.

A very famous bodybuilder Lee Haney would say Train to stimulate, not annihilate. Sounds like your overtraining which kills gains. Over taxes the central nervous system, leaving it hard to recover, hence sore for days.


I'm too 40, and on TRT. Since you been training, but haven't put on size, I would say check your diet. Diet is 80% bodybuilding. You could increase your test and add in some deca or NPP(which I prefer, hits faster). Plan on being on for 12wks. Do like 500mg test, 300 deca. The plus is you don't need to do a PCT. See how you do, but until u get your training and diet together, no matter what you take, nothing will change. That's not to say you don't know what your doing, its just that you need to make some tweeks. Hope this helped"

[Plumcrazy]

Thanks Pain.
Hoping to win the Ganabol auction so I can do just that. I know you must have been to the "made in China" website right? What are your thoughts on ordering from there? I'm the grandson of a master brewer, if I can make my own beer I should be able to make my own gear.