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VallieFlag
01-17-2017, 07:56 PM
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Anzel
01-17-2017, 08:20 PM
Yup... same convo over and over again.
Had this talk with an old high school friend. He has all sorts of health issues with low test being one of them. He wouldn't listen

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ilfirin
01-17-2017, 08:28 PM
My girlfriend is okay with me doing roids but when I brought up that I'd like to try HGH she freaked out.

HardtoGain
01-17-2017, 08:50 PM
I don't tell anyone. My friends that are on gear can tell but I still don't talk about it. It would be the first thing out of every ones mouth about me.

VallieFlag
01-17-2017, 09:16 PM
I don't tell anyone. My friends that are on gear can tell but I still don't talk about it. It would be the first thing out of every ones mouth about me.

I'm sorta similar. Only two of my friends know and I can trust them not to spill the beans to my partner who is completely ignorant to steroids and hormones and stuff like that. Not to mention I'm more athletic looking than bodybuilder aswell.

The other friend just sorta makes jokes now. Whenever I'm even remotely upset about anything she jokers about me roid rage and saying its my version of having a period. And how shes going to miss me when I die at 40 lol. Factually incorrect but at least she's cool about it.

Rickx
01-17-2017, 10:09 PM
My girlfriend is okay with me doing roids but when I brought up that I'd like to try HGH she freaked out.

Just told my girl she was all good with it shocked the shit out of me

Rickx
01-17-2017, 10:17 PM
My girlfriend is okay with me doing roids but when I brought up that I'd like to try HGH she freaked out.

Just told my girl she was all good with it shocked the shit out of me

Rickx
01-17-2017, 10:20 PM
My bad I didn't mean to do that

SC
01-18-2017, 01:53 AM
I don't tell anyone. My friends that are on gear can tell but I still don't talk about it. It would be the first thing out of every ones mouth about me.

Same here bro. I have told very, very few people, and they use too. As much as I want to help those who I suspect have low T cause I experienced it and know how badly it sucks, I don't bring it up because of the inevitable conversation that will follow. At that point all the work that has been put in is completely disregarded cause "steroids." There is so much ignorance out there that people even look at TRT as "cheating." Like you inject the shit and suddenly wake up jacked the next day.

Anzel
01-18-2017, 01:57 AM
Exactly this is what I tried explaining to my friend with low test. He just couldn't get it in his mind that trt was giving him a healthy test level. So if he doesn't get that then forget trying to explain a full out blast!

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jsnm
01-18-2017, 02:54 AM
Yea I hear that,I get the same from a couple people,they're so brain washed from the media and how they portray it as this evil thing.Its really fucking pathetic I think,not many look into it enough to appreciate what it can do for you and make you feel better as a person. I just keep it to myself besides a couple of my buddies that are into it as well.


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Anzel
01-18-2017, 10:14 AM
Anytime a wrestler dies everyone says oh it was steroids. Yeah nevermind the painkillers and recreational drugs they abuse the hell out of!
What about Lance Armstrong? He one 7 Tours in a row with the whole field doing the same thing he was doing. Outside of getting caught he is alive and well and so are all the guys that he rode with or against.


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Torcha
01-18-2017, 11:25 AM
Exactly this is what I tried explaining to my friend with low test. He just couldn't get it in his mind that trt was giving him a healthy test level. So if he doesn't get that then forget trying to explain a full out blast!

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just no helping some people.. he will be angry old man syndrome'd up in no time... funny how piss and meth heads look down on juicers huh!

Electromass
01-18-2017, 11:56 AM
just no helping some people.. he will be angry old man syndrome'd up in no time... funny how piss and meth heads look down on juicers huh!
You know....this is a great example of, it takes hard work to enjoy the high we bros get from our "steroids"!!
Other recreational drugs take no effort at all to enjoy.....just take it and sit there till your high. We, on the other hand have to bust our asses to get our high!
A big difference.
You guys, and my wife are the only ones who know "for sure" what I do. If someone I know asks "are you doing roids?"
I simply say, "no, but thanks for the compliment".

Fast Willie from Philly
01-18-2017, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I always get your gonna RAGE ans be mean. People always want to open their mouths and have an opinion about shit they have no experience in. I have always been cool on gear. In fact Im most of the time happier ans feel better than clean. If your already a jerkoff than you might be a bigger jerkoff. Even though im kinda an asshole it does really make me worse. I always tell them your fat so eating is going to make you fatter. your lazy so sitting there smoking cigs is gonna make you a lazier bitch. and your already a bitch so sitting there whining about my suppliment use when I never have done anything but listening to your bitch ass make your pussy swell!
Ok, maybe gear does make me a little more honest!

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 02:57 PM
Ugh I hate hearing about roid rage. Listen, if I'm not taking halo or cheque drops, I'm not going to have roid rage. I promise. Its that simple. I'd go as far as to say 0.1% of steroid users have ever heard of cheque drops, let alone used it.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 03:26 PM
You know....this is a great example of, it takes hard work to enjoy the high we bros get from our "steroids"!!
Other recreational drugs take no effort at all to enjoy.....just take it and sit there till your high. We, on the other hand have to bust our asses to get our high!
A big difference.
You guys, and my wife are the only ones who know "for sure" what I do. If someone I know asks "are you doing roids?"
I simply say, "no, but thanks for the compliment".

I ask them, arnt steroids illegal.. walk off..

if only they knew how many chicken fillets and eggs it takes to do wat we do..


I care little of non juicers opinions on me.. I quite like the attention from clients wifes whilst working at their homes.. the sneaky looks the girls do at the shops, and that moment you catch them staring. even better, the little big dude, you know, been lifting a month, imaginary lats, flat chest puffed out bouncing his way around like his feet have springs, that dude.. i like to watch him shrink wen he sees me coming!!!! even the nans at the lawn bowling club, they have no shame, they just walk right up have a squeeze, say something nice.. confident ol dears they are!
i even like to see my Mrs's daughters friends just stare at my arms, like they are lost in the sun. hell, even busting the mrs having a perv..
shes a fukin shocker truth be told....its almost sexual harassment, the amount of bum slapping.. id rather have my girl, have abs to run her hands on than a big beer belly...guess those guys wear tshirts or turn off the lights
the spreading of people in a busy shopping center. feels a bit wrong wen the ol nans move right to side.. still. im noticed!!
so juice or not, these things happen, and are where I find my reward for my hardwork...so fuk em, that's right fuk em, I say!!!! say it loud, flash your abs to the haters wife in front of him.. that will do some nice mental damage..
. hahaha.....after all its their insecurity..
wonder if its the same as a chick going up to another chick and asking if her boobs are real? regardless, they are great to look at and id love to squeeze em....ok so maybe not quite the same...pretty sure girls can say that and have a squeeze...

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 03:29 PM
even the nans at the lawn bowling club, they have no shame, they just walk right up have a squeeze, say something nice.. confident ol dears they are!


Omg, this made me crack up laughing.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 03:40 PM
Omg, this made me crack up laughing.

funny as huh. the mrs actually gets a bit jealous.. thou I enjoy that too....

SC
01-18-2017, 04:10 PM
I ask them, arnt steroids illegal.. walk off..

if only they knew how many chicken fillets and eggs it takes to do wat we do..


I care little of non juicers opinions on me.. I quite like the attention from clients wifes whilst working at their homes.. the sneaky looks the girls do at the shops, and that moment you catch them staring. even better, the little big dude, you know, been lifting a month, imaginary lats, flat chest puffed out bouncing his way around like his feet have springs, that dude.. i like to watch him shrink wen he sees me coming!!!! even the nans at the lawn bowling club, they have no shame, they just walk right up have a squeeze, say something nice.. confident ol dears they are!
i even like to see my Mrs's daughters friends just stare at my arms, like they are lost in the sun. hell, even busting the mrs having a perv..
shes a fukin shocker truth be told....its almost sexual harassment, the amount of bum slapping.. id rather have my girl, have abs to run her hands on than a big beer belly...guess those guys wear tshirts or turn off the lights
the spreading of people in a busy shopping center. feels a bit wrong wen the ol nans move right to side.. still. im noticed!!
so juice or not, these things happen, and are where I find my reward for my hardwork...so fuk em, that's right fuk em, I say!!!! say it loud, flash your abs to the haters wife in front of him.. that will do some nice mental damage..
. hahaha.....after all its their insecurity..
wonder if its the same as a chick going up to another chick and asking if her boobs are real? regardless, they are great to look at and id love to squeeze em....ok so maybe not quite the same...pretty sure girls can say that and have a squeeze...

Hahaha!!!! After my wife got her boobs her friends were constantly asking to see them and squeeze them. It was pretty hot.

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 04:45 PM
At bowling the other night, the wife's friend's husband tagged along and he is probably the biggest roider I know. Built like a fridge basically. I later commented in the night jokingly 'oh I forgot my creatine today, i feel small next to him' and my wife very seriously turned to face me and said 'um, he uses steroids. hes a cheater!'. The fact is the guys on PEDs generally workout much harder and take better care of themselves than the nattys. I notice guys on PEDs eat much cleaner too, turning down dessert and avoiding fries.. stuff like that. There's obvious downsides and I guess when someone hasn't done the research its easy to jump to conclusions, but still, the way she said it so seriously made me laugh.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 04:54 PM
Hahaha!!!! After my wife got her boobs her friends were constantly asking to see them and squeeze them. It was pretty hot.

not that i want to go around and squeeze dudes muscles...but that's just plain unfair...definalty hot to see chicks do that...u lucky bugger, wonder how easy it would be to have the mrs say, squeeze the nipples, they are still so soft...haha..tell me that happened! lie to me if you have too .. ill be getting a boob job in a couple of years.. oh, I mean her boobs.. well actually her ass is mine so guess the titties are too.....good ol Thailand holiday, she can heal while I eat and train in peace.. perfect!! quite a painful process I hear. the whinging part I mean!!..pretty sure Thailand has valium..

SC
01-18-2017, 05:01 PM
not that i want to go around and squeeze dudes muscles...but that's just plain unfair...definalty hot to see chicks do that...u lucky bugger, wonder how easy it would be to have the mrs say, squeeze the nipples, they are still so soft...haha..tell me that happened! lie to me if you have too .. ill be getting a boob job in a couple of years.. oh, I mean her boobs.. well actually her ass is mine so guess the titties are too.....good ol Thailand holiday, she can heal while I eat and train in peace.. perfect!! quite a painful process I hear. the whinging part I mean!!..pretty sure Thailand has valium..

She went under the muscle so they look more natural and it takes longer to recover. Didn't get to fully enjoy them for a couple weeks during the recovery. As she's grown more chest muscle, now when she flexes her boobs kinda push over to the side and she doesn't like it. So! She plans on getting them done again in the future and just going full porn-star. No complaints here!

And yes, from my perspective there was a great deal of petting while wifey holds her shirt up like a chick from girls gone wild. Girls doing the caressing were from the gym and some had lost their boobs from lifting, so of course they're also hot and wearing short shorts or leggings. Good times.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 05:04 PM
At bowling the other night, the wife's friend's husband tagged along and he is probably the biggest roider I know. Built like a fridge basically. I later commented in the night jokingly 'oh I forgot my creatine today, i feel small next to him' and my wife very seriously turned to face me and said 'um, he uses steroids. hes a cheater!'. The fact is the guys on PEDs generally workout much harder and take better care of themselves than the nattys. I notice guys on PEDs eat much cleaner too, turning down dessert and avoiding fries.. stuff like that. There's obvious downsides and I guess when someone hasn't done the research its easy to jump to conclusions, but still, the way she said it so seriously made me laugh.

she was fluffing your ego. actually a nice gesture... quite cute of her really... damn the press and mainstream have gone wild on the term 'cheating'...there is no cheating, just getting caught...

so another pov...girls...high heels, you aint that tall and your calfs don't look that great wen you take them off, make up.. umm you aint that pretty, push up padded bras, er girl, your titties aint that pert or large (note. titties lying does not apply to SC 'this weeks lucky bugger' award, his girls are as they are). , girl you aint that brown, I see white feet and dark hands, fake tan, pick up a '9' at a club..wake up with a wilderbeast haircut and rating a '6'.. that's cheating!!

SC
01-18-2017, 05:05 PM
At bowling the other night, the wife's friend's husband tagged along and he is probably the biggest roider I know. Built like a fridge basically. I later commented in the night jokingly 'oh I forgot my creatine today, i feel small next to him' and my wife very seriously turned to face me and said 'um, he uses steroids. hes a cheater!'. The fact is the guys on PEDs generally workout much harder and take better care of themselves than the nattys. I notice guys on PEDs eat much cleaner too, turning down dessert and avoiding fries.. stuff like that. There's obvious downsides and I guess when someone hasn't done the research its easy to jump to conclusions, but still, the way she said it so seriously made me laugh.

Your wife doesn't know you're on gear?

I can attest to what you said about working harder and eating better. Only thing I would change is that I notice the guys on PED's that have results (add emphasis on results) are the guys that push harder in the gym and have their diet dialed in. Some guys don't push themselves at all and eat like shit and their results show it.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 05:11 PM
She went under the muscle so they look more natural and it takes longer to recover. Didn't get to fully enjoy them for a couple weeks during the recovery. As she's grown more chest muscle, now when she flexes her boobs kinda push over to the side and she doesn't like it. So! She plans on getting them done again in the future and just going full porn-star. No complaints here!

And yes, from my perspective there was a great deal of petting while wifey holds her shirt up like a chick from girls gone wild. Girls doing the caressing were from the gym and some had lost their boobs from lifting, so of course they're also hot and wearing short shorts or leggings. Good times.

WONDER IF VAGINA RECONSTRUCTION HAS THE SAME EFFECT... haha... omg, it looks so neat, can I feel for tightness..ok so that's never gonna happen.. my girl had kids make a mess, plus the up and down of weight. so I want to regain her confidence and feel good about herself.. by memory I think we share having our mrs be our training partner.. thou SC we train at home.... haha... the cross over, the leg press, chin up bar all easily turned into bdsm tie downs..

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 05:31 PM
Your wife doesn't know you're on gear?

I can attest to what you said about working harder and eating better. Only thing I would change is that I notice the guys on PED's that have results (add emphasis on results) are the guys that push harder in the gym and have their diet dialed in. Some guys don't push themselves at all and eat like shit and their results show it.

No she doesn't. I generally do mild compounds and dosages so its not a problem. I mostly look for enhanced recovery and better performance in my grappling. I'm not a bodybuilder per se. But this last cycle has just blown me up by 20lbs, and I've got my genotech ready to go for my next cycle too, so we'll see if she says anything.

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 05:33 PM
she was fluffing your ego. actually a nice gesture... quite cute of her really... damn the press and mainstream have gone wild on the term 'cheating'...there is no cheating, just getting caught...

so another pov...girls...high heels, you aint that tall and your calfs don't look that great wen you take them off, make up.. umm you aint that pretty, push up padded bras, er girl, your titties aint that pert or large (note. titties lying does not apply to SC 'this weeks lucky bugger' award, his girls are as they are). , girl you aint that brown, I see white feet and dark hands, fake tan, pick up a '9' at a club..wake up with a wilderbeast haircut and rating a '6'.. that's cheating!!

Yeah thats a good point actually. I didn't think of it like that.
I actually said to her once a year ago 'if you ever get cosmetic surgery or a lap band or any of that, I get to do tonnes of roids' but she didn't agree lol.

Torcha
01-18-2017, 05:36 PM
No she doesn't. I generally do mild compounds and dosages so its not a problem. I mostly look for enhanced recovery and better performance in my grappling. I'm not a bodybuilder per se. But this last cycle has just blown me up by 20lbs, and I've got my genotech ready to go for my next cycle too, so we'll see if she says anything.

ill be looking for your tren post in the future... she will know man, she knows you best... better to be honest.. trust is hard to regain...20 pounds is a great effort on a strong compounds let alone mild.. good work!!

VallieFlag
01-18-2017, 05:46 PM
ill be looking for your tren post in the future... she will know man, she knows you best... better to be honest.. trust is hard to regain...20 pounds is a great effort on a strong compounds let alone mild.. good work!!

Thanks man. I did test + tbol. Not as much fun as anadrol though, I have to admit. If I was smart I would have done EQ aswell, get some more nice lean gains.

Yeah got tren, anavar test and proviron from those guys so we'll see! Elvia is a very cool generous guy.

SC
01-18-2017, 05:50 PM
ill be looking for your tren post in the future... she will know man, she knows you best... better to be honest.. trust is hard to regain...20 pounds is a great effort on a strong compounds let alone mild.. good work!!

Sounds like he's got an uphill battle to fight if she's one to jump straight to the cheating accusations. People just have no clue!

I got lucky as to have a very level-headed wife. Before I ever touched anything I told her my thoughts and then had her do her own research. Then she ended up giving me my injections for awhile! (Now I just do it myself unless I cramp up too bad trying to hit a glute muscle)

VallieFlag
01-19-2017, 02:24 PM
So I reluctantly told my boss about my steroid use the other day and he starts telling me how his mum was the champion arm wrestler in her state and he did some a deca cycle back in the day and won about a grand a night arm wrestling guys at clubs haha. And then today he asks me to forward him the list so him and his friend can look into starting cycling again. So a happy ending there.