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tc80
03-22-2017, 03:35 AM
Been having escalating gyno. After gathering and even balancing all my levels i'm still having an issue and cant figure out why. Ill post all my tests and any input would be greatly appreciated:


Prior to starting TRT

9-27-2016
Testosterone 337 (Range 348-1197)
Free test 9.2 (Range 8.7-25.1)
Prolactin 7.4 (Range 4.0-15.2)

Started TRT 10-16-2016 (200mg dosed at 100 twice a week)
Ran out on 12-28-16 and doctor couldn’t see me so next shot was 1-10-17

1-7-17 (after missing shot for 13 days)

Testosterone 445 (range 249-836)
Free test 92.63 (range 48-250
% Free Test 2.08 (range 1.29-2.87)
SHBG 31.1 (range 19.3-76.4)
PSA 0.590 (range 0-4.0)
Hematocrit 49.7 (range 39-52)
Estradiol- doc said no need to test even though I specifically said I felt every symptom of high E2

1-31-17 (still 100mg twice per week=200)

Testosterone 1226 (range 249-836) HIGH
Free Test 23.28 (range 4.25-30.37)
DHT 929 (range 106-719) HIGH
Progesterone 0.30 (range <0.16) HIGH
PSA 0.62 (range <4)
SHBG 19 (range 10-57)
Estrdiol Sensitive 49.5 (range 8-35) High red flag
*Showed doc gyno seems to be forming for week or two and E2 slightly high, she said I cant give you breast cancer meds (AI’s). Ordered them online but didnt have till 2-20-16 ). DHT high, Progesterone high, Estradiol high




2-20-17 Lowered Test dose to 130mg (65 twice per week)
10mg Aromasin every day
20mg Nolvadex everyday
Gyno seemed to almost regress then come back for a week or two. Now it always looks evident and growing


2-28-17 Ultrasound showed no gyno but they said it wont def show. Possible mammogram or surgeon consult needed to confirm. But I am sure, I have pictures I can share showing def gyno and have always been lean and cut since I was a kid never any pre gyno or chest fat.


3-16-17 (Test dose 130, 65 twice per week, for a month now)


Testosterone 770 (range 249-836)
Free Test 16.05 (range 4.25-30.37)
Progesterone 0.13 ( range <0.16) Borderline high still
DHT 632 (range 106-719)
SHBG 19 (10-57)
Estradiol 10.46 (7.02-49.06)

So now my numbers are all in range but again I am still on 10mg Aromasin Everyday and 20mg Nolvadex everyday and my gyno problem is still getting worse instead of better or stable. I just don’t understand why. I have read some things about prolactin and only have that first test but from most information out there everyone focuses on estrogen when dealing with testosterone and mine was never very high and is actually too low right now. Except the ratio of T to E was bad when I had no shot for 13 days. 430 test to 50 E2. I am not on nor have I ever done any AAS and this is doctor prescribed cypionate in cottonseed oil. Anyone have any info to possibly add or other things to look at?? Thanks for your time

enrod
03-22-2017, 03:53 AM
Prolactin can definitely cause puffiness in the nipples, regardless what bro science you've come across. I'm sensitive to it, but I can't say I've experienced it from test. If it's not estrogen causing it, as your bloods do show lower estradiols, perhaps look into picking up cabergoline or bromo is a good cheaper alternative. These meds are known as dopamine agonists and they will reduce prolactin levels. Do not dose high, as low prolactin also can cause unwanted sides.


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