First blood work, Advice appreciated

[JMaxwell]

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Ok BOP, I know when ask I for advice to be prepared for tuff love. That's why I trust the advice I get here. These bloods were drawn week 7, 48 hours after pinning. I am running 500mg Test E, and 600 mg EQ per week. I am also running 12.5 Exemestane eod, and 250 ui HCH 2x per week. I did not get pre cycle bloods done. I know that hurts my ability to get the most information from this test but it is what it is. I am educated now and it won't happen again. I thought my total Test number looked a little low for my dose. But like I said, I didn't get pre cycle bloods. I am also 41 years old and maybe this is a good number for me. Any thoughts, criticism, or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time!

[VallieFlag]

Yeah test is a little low, nothing to get crazy over. Estradiol is a little bit high but once again, nothing to be overly concerned about. If you're experiencing no estrogenic side effects, looks good to go to me.

[littlefrank]

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Ok BOP, I know when ask I for advice to be prepared for tuff love. That's why I trust the advice I get here. These bloods were drawn week 7, 48 hours after pinning. I am running 500mg Test E, and 600 mg EQ per week. I am also running 12.5 Exemestane eod, and 250 ui HCH 2x per week. I did not get pre cycle bloods done. I know that hurts my ability to get the most information from this test but it is what it is. I am educated now and it won't happen again. I thought my total Test number looked a little low for my dose. But like I said, I didn't get pre cycle bloods. I am also 41 years old and maybe this is a good number for me. Any thoughts, criticism, or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time!

Ugh um I'd say that number is quite a bit lower than it needs to be. 2700-3300 is where you want to stand around 500. I think I've seen the basis is Test number X 6 = range. That would be 3000. Plus with 500mg and 12.5mg aromasin your Estrogen should be bouncing around in the low 20's or even teens. I could see if you were taking 800-1g of test it be that high of 12.5g. Something is not correct here and that's just me. I'm sure other people will weigh in. Around 500 I Test at about 3200-3300 or so.

[JMaxwell]

Ugh um I'd say that number is quite a bit lower than it needs to be. 2700-3300 (tel:2700-3300) is where you want to stand around 500. I think I've seen the basis is Test number X 6 = range. That would be 3000. Plus with 500mg aromasin your Estrogen should be bouncing around in the low 20's or even teens. I could see if you were taking 800-1g of test it be that high of 12.5g. Something is not correct here and that's just me. I'm sure other people will weigh in. Around 500 I Test at about 3200-3300 (tel:3200-3300) or so.

I thought it looked much lower than other blood work results I have seen posted using the same dose. I Upped my Exemestane to 12.5 everyday instead of eod since getting these results. Thanks for your feedback.

[JMaxwell]

Yeah test is a little low, nothing to get crazy over. Estradiol is a little bit high but once again, nothing to be overly concerned about. If you're experiencing no estrogenic side effects, looks good to go to me.

Thank you, I am going to bump up my Exemestane to 12.5mg everyday just in case. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

[HardtoGain]

Jmax what are you weighing in at? 12.5 extremestane per day should be good.

[JMaxwell]

Jmax what are you weighing in at? 12.5 extremestane per day should be good.

5'9" 218 pounds. I was at 12.5 Exemestane every two days. I just bumped it to 12.5 every day after seeing my blood work. So you think that should work?

[HardtoGain]

5'9" 218 pounds. I was at 12.5 Exemestane every two days. I just bumped it to 12.5 every day after seeing my blood work. So you think that should work?

Yes, at your dose of test and weight I would say 12.5mg/day would be an excellent choice. If you notice signs of crashed Estro such as joint pain, usually in wrists, then you may need to dial back the dose a bit. I would still recommend taking the extremestane every day due to its short half life though.

[littlefrank]

Yes, at your dose of test and weight I would say 12.5mg/day would be an excellent choice. If you notice signs of crashed Estro such as joint pain, usually in wrists, then you may need to dial back the dose a bit. I would still recommend taking the extremestane every day due to its short half life though.

He was taking 12.5 eod which should be plenty at 500mg test and his esto is still way high and his test way to low. From the sounds your gear is a tad under dosed.

[HardtoGain]

He was taking 12.5 eod which should be plenty at 500mg test and his esto is still way high and his test way to low. From the sounds your gear is a tad under dosed.

I am suggesting that he double the dose of 12.5mg EOD to now take 12.5mg every day.

The total test numbers are a little low from what I usually test at. At 500mg I am usually 2500+ but everyone is a bit different. Also people pin differently. If he draws up exactly 1mL at 250mg/mL then by the time the pin gets changed and injection completed it could be 0.9mL actually entering the body. I know I always draw strong or slightly overshoot my goal dose because of the small loss during pinning. I don't remember the exact W.H.O./C.D.C. numbers but they actually published a study on loss when the 1mL vials became standard in hospitals and medical offices.

[littlefrank]

I am suggesting that he double the dose of 12.5mg EOD to now take 12.5mg every day.

The total test numbers are a little low from what I usually test at. At 500mg I am usually 2500+ but everyone is a bit different. Also people pin differently. If he draws up exactly 1mL at 250mg/mL then by the time the pin gets changed and injection completed it could be 0.9mL actually entering the body. I know I always draw strong or slightly overshoot my goal dose because of the small loss during pinning. I don't remember the exact W.H.O./C.D.C. numbers but they actually published a study on loss when the 1mL vials became standard in hospitals and medical offices.

That little bit left in there is actually not much and if you're drawing right you'll have more left in usually because you'll have some in the plastic of the pin and right before the 0 mark on the syringe. Which in turn makes it even. So I figure if you draw to 1mL there is some in the plastic and below.

And I see you did mention that and I agree with you either 12.5 ed or 25 eod. Personally I'd order the same exact shit different lab and run results. I always test around 32 or so at 500. Seems a grand lower seems way off but maybe I'm wrong.

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[HardtoGain]

3200 @ 500 is pretty damn good! It does depend on body weight as well. More body mass = more blood and it will take more testosterone to reach the same level in a larger volume of blood. I average around 230lb and know that I used to test higher when I was below 200lb.

[JMaxwell]

I am suggesting that he double the dose of 12.5mg EOD to now take 12.5mg every day.

The total test numbers are a little low from what I usually test at. At 500mg I am usually 2500+ but everyone is a bit different. Also people pin differently. If he draws up exactly 1mL at 250mg/mL then by the time the pin gets changed and injection completed it could be 0.9mL actually entering the body. I know I always draw strong or slightly overshoot my goal dose because of the small loss during pinning. I don't remember the exact W.H.O./C.D.C. numbers but they actually published a study on loss when the 1mL vials became standard in hospitals and medical offices.

Thank you very much for explaining that. I actually do try to draw exactly to the mL. Could definitely be contributing to the number on the lower side of things. And thank you very much for all of your other detailed comments and advice.

[JMaxwell]

That little bit left in there is actually not much and if you're drawing right you'll have more left in usually because you'll have some in the plastic of the pin and right before the 0 mark on the syringe. Which in turn makes it even. So I figure if you draw to 1mL there is some in the plastic and below.

And I see you did mention that and I agree with you either 12.5 ed or 25 eod. Personally I'd order the same exact shit different lab and run results. I always test around 32 or so at 500. Seems a grand lower seems way off but maybe I'm wrong.

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Thanks for your comments. I really thought my total Test would be higher. I did get my gear from a reputable source on this board. So it's a very good chance it's something to do with my body or something I am doing wrong due to my inexperience. I did not get pre cycle bloods so I definitely wouldn't want to jump to conclusions and accuse a sponsor of underdosed gear. I am getting results so I am not pissed or unhappy. I will take your advice and try same dose from a new source next cycle though. Thanks again!

[littlefrank]

Thanks for your comments. I really thought my total Test would be higher. I did get my gear from a reputable source on this board. So it's a very good chance it's something to do with my body or something I am doing wrong due to my inexperience. I did not get pre cycle bloods so I definitely wouldn't want to jump to conclusions and accuse a sponsor of underdosed gear. I am getting results so I am not pissed or unhappy. I will take your advice and try same dose from a new source next cycle though. Thanks again!

Ok cool. Yeah sometimes raws don't come back good. Just all depends. But as long as you're happy thats all that matters! Good luck my friends.