Should you take test E and tren on a 2:1 ratio

[wbrinkley1025]

Should you take test E and tren on a 2:1 ratio

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[osiris7582]

I was advised to take 2:1 tren and test because test's side effects are more brutal and it's worked out well so far. I'm in week 4 of 12

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[auswest]

Can do what ever you lile different ratios affect people differently give it ago and see how you get on, adjust next time around and find your sweet spot

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[joko123]

That's broscience that who knows where it came from some people run their test lower than their tren and expiernces less side effects others don't. I believe it's more of an individual thing. Although if you run yor test lower you will most likely hold less water

[stephen220]

Yea I keep my test just above a trt dose so 200mgs and whatever I run of tren and I haven't really experienced terrible side effects. Also with ace I think pinning ed at the same time helps bring down negative sides also

[Fancycat69]

Maybe that's a guideline for some people but I definitely wouldn't call it necessary

[VallieFlag]

You can do whatever you want. I would suggest them around the same, but some people love a nice 700 a week with 350 test. its impossible for us to say as its mostly trial and error. I get plenty of results on 300-400 a week and I avoid most of the side effects.

Whatever you do please start low and slow.

[VallieFlag]

If you haven't already, google 'tren prolactin' and make sure you're knowledge on that topic is very strong.

[350zsidewayzz]

lol the number of threads on this. i lowered my test lower than tren and my hair started falling out. so im keeping it this way. hopefully more gains. lol

[VallieFlag]

You lowered your test but want more gains?

[350zsidewayzz]

i lowered it cuz im running low otherwise i wouldnt of. but maybe im saying the test was overpowering the tren who knows, (im aware of the stronger binding affinity of tren) (also aware of the theory of over saturating receptors) im testing all theories that people have on this, ive read both sides of it

[VallieFlag]

Yeah there is some truth to that I believe. But you are assuming that the receptors are already at max capacity.

[VallieFlag]

Previous in vitro binding studies with androgen receptors in rat seminal vesicles (Toth M. and Zakar T., J. steroid Biochem. 17 (1982) 653-660) have shown that the difference in the effects of nandrolone (N) and testosterone (T) is caused by the fact that 5 alpha-reduction increases the affinity of T and decreases the affinity of N. We confirmed this result using androgen receptors in rat prostate and intact human MCF-7 cells.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4021486

Its certainly an interesting topic.

[350zsidewayzz]

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Its certainly an interesting topic.

thats actually a really good study, i had low dht b4 trt idk what it is now, so if its still low then i guess i wouldnt have to worry about the affinity of test, but if its higher now then shit.

all i gotta say is where has this study been in all the other forums threads ive read about test tren ratio

on ur first reply though... ive been on for quite awhile, was on 1g of test, 20mg sdrol 700mg tren, sometimes ill take dbol or mtren preworkout for aggression or energy, been on close to 5 months now so i need to squeeze out all i can from these receptors before i take a break after this cycle

[Locodice]

Should you take test E and tren on a 2:1 ratio

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Do what works for your body best. I'm running 750 cyp with 500 tren e and haven't had any real bad sides


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[VallieFlag]

thats actually a really good study, i had low dht b4 trt idk what it is now, so if its still low then i guess i wouldnt have to worry about the affinity of test, but if its higher now then shit.

all i gotta say is where has this study been in all the other forums threads ive read about test tren ratio

on ur first reply though... ive been on for quite awhile, was on 1g of test, 20mg sdrol 700mg tren, sometimes ill take dbol or mtren preworkout for aggression or energy, been on close to 5 months now so i need to squeeze out all i can from these receptors before i take a break after this cycle
Haha wow. Thats not going to be fun coming off that. How long you been on the superdrol? Don't you dare say the whole 5 months.

[350zsidewayzz]

Haha wow. Thats not going to be fun coming off that. How long you been on the superdrol? Don't you dare say the whole 5 months.

lmao no way, sdrol i took for like 2 weeks at start of cycle. didnt do shit cuz wasnt eating, then i was messin with adrol, then a week off then back on the sdrol for like 2 more weeks, low dose 10mg cuz of lethargy. then got some ael sdrol and havent had nearly as bad lethargy as geneza so im not really being too careful with it, been on for around 2 weeks got 1 pill left. but my m1t is arriving today. LOL lets hope it lives up to the hype

and im on trt so coming off will be no problem, believe me i wouldnt go this kamikaze if i wasnt on trt haha

[VallieFlag]

Oh I see. Okay, phew! You had me worried 350.

[wbrinkley1025]

Do what works for your body best. I'm running 750 cyp with 500 tren e and haven't had any real bad sides


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I was gonna run, 500 test E and 100 tren eod, is that to much, i was told to run. I blow up from any test, but i dont want to this time. Any suggestions. This is a no test cycle. But at 39 im feeling very tired and no sex drive so i want to add testhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/3270c86b035aa4c3b9e10ba102899f44.jpg

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[wbrinkley1025]

thats actually a really good study, i had low dht b4 trt idk what it is now, so if its still low then i guess i wouldnt have to worry about the affinity of test, but if its higher now then shit.

all i gotta say is where has this study been in all the other forums threads ive read about test tren ratio

on ur first reply though... ive been on for quite awhile, was on 1g of test, 20mg sdrol 700mg tren, sometimes ill take dbol or mtren preworkout for aggression or energy, been on close to 5 months now so i need to squeeze out all i can from these receptors before i take a break after this cycle
You got pics

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[350zsidewayzz]

I was gonna run, 500 test E and 100 tren eod, is that to much, i was told to run. I blow up from any test, but i dont want to this time. Any suggestions. This is a no test cycle. But at 39 im feeling very tired and no sex drive so i want to add testhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/3270c86b035aa4c3b9e10ba102899f44.jpg

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not too much. tren 100 eod is a good starting tren dose. 500 test would be good with that but even 250mg a week would work fine with that tren dose and u would be more dry. with ur amount of mass id almost recommend a lower test dose.

[350zsidewayzz]

i mean i can upload, but im nothing impressive right now. my bodyfat percentage is a bit too high. keep in mind i ran these doseages because ive been on a 5 month cycle. and gains are harder to come by. but dont worry. i will have transformation pics eventually.

to give u an idea of strength gains on this cycle though. 100 pounds on bench. or about 90. thats reps not max. 100 on squat. 150 on deadlift.
40 pounds lean mass i would say. was pretty small before january 2017. can still say i woulda made more gains if i followed time on time off protocol. my receptors are pretty worn out

[wbrinkley1025]

not too much. tren 100 eod is a good starting tren dose. 500 test would be good with that but even 250mg a week would work fine with that tren dose and u would be more dry. with ur amount of mass id almost recommend a lower test dose.
So your thinking 100 eod of tren and i didnt want to do any less than 300 a week of test. This time last year i was at 1000mg of test. Cant imagine going under 500 but its been recommended so im gonna try.

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[VallieFlag]

So your thinking 100 eod of tren and i didnt want to do any less than 300 a week of test. This time last year i was at 1000mg of test. Cant imagine going under 500 but its been recommended so im gonna try.

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Totally depends on your goals man. A strength athlete would gladly eat up a gram a week but someone trying to stay lean could run 30 and add a big chunk of a DHT and be happy with that. Whats your training style?

I recently changed from strongman to bodybuilding so my cycle has changed dramatically.

[cherrybombfitnes]

That's broscience that who knows where it came from some people run their test lower than their tren and expiernces less side effects others don't. I believe it's more of an individual thing. Although if you run yor test lower you will most likely hold less water

Exactly. And so it is with all hormone usage. Some people aromatize less and so get less effects from tren or test or whatever and so on, and so forth. You can't predict how another will react or feel.


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[cherrybombfitnes]

I was gonna run, 500 test E and 100 tren eod, is that to much, i was told to run. I blow up from any test, but i dont want to this time. Any suggestions. This is a no test cycle. But at 39 im feeling very tired and no sex drive so i want to add testhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/3270c86b035aa4c3b9e10ba102899f44.jpg

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Keep the test low then. Do 150-200 test and 400 tren and see if libido works out. That much test won't blow you up.


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