Equipoise

[FREEKSHOW]

Pharmaceutical Name: Boldenone (as undecylenate)
Chemical structure: 1,4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-ol
Effective dose: 300-600 mg/week




For something that is generally injected into cows, horses and dogs boldenone is quite a popular and well-liked drug by most bodybuilders because of its unique make-up. It possesses several characteristics that aren't found in any other substance and its use is so varied its much desired year-round. Boldenone is a decent anabolic coupled with both a mild androgenic and a mild estrogenic effect. Sort of like a weak testosterone. In structure it doesn't differ all that much from testosterone, the main anomaly being a double bond in the one position as well as the 4 position. Its nonetheless quite good at promoting gains, but mostly through a combination of androgenic potential and other media than the androgen and estrogen receptors.

The strange thing about its androgenic component is that it is mostly not mediated by a 5-alpha-reduced form, as is the case for most steroids. While it does indeed form a very potent 5AR form (dihydroboldenone, roughly 7 times as anabolic as testosterone1) its shows a very low affinity for the 5-alpha-reducatase enzyme2. This leads to the conclusion that a large part of the anabolic effect boldenone exerts is formed by the hormone itself binding to the androgen receptor. This could also be the reason its had such a successful run as a veterinary drug, because despite differences in the metabolism of species it has always produced extraordinary results.

Like most anabolic steroids it increases muscle mass over time by increasing nitrogen retention and positively influencing protein synthesis or re-synthesis. An action that is not necessarily supported by an androgenic mediator as was shown with nandrolone. What boldenone has that other steroids don't is that it indirectly supplies the necessary means for that protein synthesis because it drastically increases the appetite. Thereby facilitating the high nutritional intake (especially protein wise) needed to book the best results when using anabolic androgenic steroids. Its more of a benefit than you think as a lot of people have theorized that it is this increase that is responsible for the great results booked when using boldenone. This theory may hold its own as there is indeed not much proof of the kind of anabolic activity with boldenone that would be responsible for the elicited effect.

Its estrogenic activities are slight, but present. This has more of a positive than negative influence. The aromatisation of boldenone is too small to cause real problems and in normal doses (300-400 mg/week) problems such as gynocomastia and too much fat retention are unheard of. However small aromatisation is desirable as estrogen too mediates anabolic activity. It can be responsible for better glucose utilization3,4 (repleting lost glycogen stores after exercise) and stimulating increased growth hormone release5. But most notably estrogen is responsible for an upgrading of the androgen receptor6 allowing hormones that act on the androgen receptor to exert a larger anabolic effect. This is why hormones that are strong androgens but also aromatize heavily, like anadrol and testosterone, can put the most mass on your frame. In that aspect boldenone is perhaps the most suitable steroid because of its moderate estrogen levels that allow for the benefits, but not the side-effects of aromatization. And no doubt the perfect balance is partially responsible for stimulation of the appetite.

For athletes of sports other than strength sports or bodybuilding will also note that boldenone is quite likely the most favorable steroid for them to use as it also stimulates the release of erythropoeitin in the kidneys. Erythropoeitin is a hormone known as EPO and heavily abused among endurance athletes because it signals the body to increase the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Red blood cells are the carrier of oxygen in the body, meaning that a higher maximal oxygen capacity can be obtained and better performance can be achieved over longer amounts of time before lactic acid is built up, which would in turn result in cramps and a cessation of the activity at that level. In short it improves your stamina. For bodybuilders this characteristic may be useful in promoting increased vascularity.

In that aspect boldenone combined with a non-aromatizing steroid like Winstrol or Primobolan may be perfect to help you get cut and ripped while improving vascularity. The downside to that is that you really need to try hard to suppress the increased appetite. Which is why its probably a better idea to stack a somewhat larger dose of boldenone with a mass building drug like testosterone or anadrol to elicit major gains.

The negative effects of boldenone are quite limited. In the normal doses of 300-400 mg a week estrogenic side-effects are almost never noted except in those who are very succeptible to estrogen. In terms of androgenic side-effects long-term use or very intense use of boldenone can cause slight virilizing effects such as acne and increased body-hair growth. Never really a problem for men, but women considering its use on account of its moderate androgenic qualities should be aware of this.

As an undecylenate ester, boldenone needs only be injected every week (staying active well over 4 weeks), but because the preparations come in 25 mg/ml, users most often opt for 25-50 mg every day to every other day. A use of 300-400 mg per week seems to be the normal recommendation. Its not hepatoxic to any serious degree and can therefore be used for longer cycles. The appearance of underground forms of boldenone in higher concentrations (200 mg/ml) has made it easier to inject only once a week, which is to be preffered over the multiple dosings because it has a more even release and the cumulative effect shows much sooner. Speaking of cumulative effect, the best results with boldenone are seen when a user front-loads. Usually that means he will use a high doses of 600-800 mg/week for 2 weeks and then lower that dose to the normal 300-400 mg/week for the remaining 8-10 weeks.

Boldenone is most often used for cutting. Its stacking partners for this purpose in particular are trenbolone, stanazolol and testosterone propionate. I'm no big fan of testosterone for cutting, although propionate is commonly used with great success by many users. Nonetheless I don't recommend test for cutting for beginners. Stanazolol is particularly useful in improving muscle hardness and strength while boldenone offers increased vascularity without overly aromatizing. The use of 50 mg of stanazolol every day, stacked with 300-400 mg per week of boldenone should serve the purpose of retaining gains and gaining increased definition and vascularity while shedding fat very well. Trenbolone would be a better match for those looking for moderate but very lean gains. Parabolan at 76 mg every other day for example will provide a decent increase in lean mass in combination with boldenone, without having to sacrifice shape or definition. Of course any combination of the above is an option as well. For example 300 mg of equipoise per week stacked with 76 mg of parabolan every other day and 50 mg of Winstrol every day, possibly with some test propionate at 50 mg a day.

But though rarely mentioned, I personally find boldenone the better choice for bulking. Due to its effect on vascularity it is mostly used for cutting, but if you had a drug that increased your appetite like boldenone does, would you really use it to lose weight? It makes more sense to use it in a stack with a testosterone ester like enanthate or cypionate for good gains, instead of nandrolone. Sort of as a base. It aromatizes less than nandrolone and doesn't have that pesky progestagenic effect either, and because it increases appetite it would provide you with the means to an end in terms of gaining weight. 300-400 mg a week of boldenone with 500 mg of sustanon or 500 mg of testosterone enanthate would form an incredible stack. Even for those who prefer deca, adding a small amount of boldenone will go a long way in improving appetite. But boldenone is stronger than Deca, mg for mg, as well as safer and less suppressive.

Boldenone makes a very poor match for nandrolone and methenolone though, since its very similar in action. The beauty of boldenone is that it can be an alternative for nandrolone when bulking due to its leaner results and more potent anabolic action, as well as an alternative for methenolone because while barely aromatizing its stronger than methenolone (Primobolan), gram for gram. The use of secondary drugs is rarely required. It doesn't aromatize at a great rate so the use of anti-aromatases is rarely implemented and the use of Nolva and clomid, during a cycle, is only necessary when stacked with aromatizing steroids like testosterone. Nolvadex or Clomid may have some use in restoring natural test post-cycle, because of the long-acting ester (11 carbons) and the mild estrogenic component. Normally 4 weeks of treatment is required, starting 1.5 to 2 weeks after the last shot.

[studmuffin]

Great post.

[fairdinkydi]

Awesome info mate cheers

[Dbolish]

i love eq, its like a fine wine, it gets better as time goes by

[tm1271]

Thanks for the info

[tm1271]

Test E, EQ and Dbol Some of my favorite things

[hockeytownpump]

Great post brother thanks a lot for this valuable information!

[NutritionGame]

awesome post, i was very interested in eq and now have a really good understanding of it.

[lipid]

EQ, either you love it or hate it. no inbetween, lol.

[Ironworker1]

Love me some EQ.....

[Symbion1]

Thanks bro good read

[Predator1]

Wats a typical dose for EQ these days 600mg minimum? I haven't touched it in about 7 yrs all I remember it made me vascular as hell tho I was a lot leaner , can't remember what dose I used but I'm thinking about throwing it in my cycle with tren and test

[james185]

Great info

[PAiN]

Wats a typical dose for EQ these days 600mg minimum? I haven't touched it in about 7 yrs all I remember it made me vascular as hell tho I was a lot leaner , can't remember what dose I used but I'm thinking about throwing it in my cycle with tren and test

That's the lowest I would go and still would rather be at atleast 800mg.

[Predator1]

Yeah I was gonna go around 800mg and go from there

[animal87]

600mg minimum for a experienced user imo.

[benlash74]

Got some 200mg/ml eq for my next cycle. 600mg sounds like alot to me. I was going to run it 1cc every four days. Along with 250mg of cyp every four days as well. Would that be an effective dose or should I bump it up?

[bobudafrudo]

600 is where it goes to work, its very very mild. Increase in RBC and an insatiable appetite are the sides. You will feel like you can run forever and ever and then what to eat everything you see.> Great drug.

[benlash74]

600 is where it goes to work, its very very mild. Increase in RBC and an insatiable appetite are the sides. You will feel like you can run forever and ever and then what to eat everything you see.> Great drug.

I will take your advice. 600 split into two shots a week or all at once?

[macho]

1000 ooooo yiiiaaa

[bobudafrudo]

Next cycle I'm bumping it to 1k/wk along with 400mg Deca & 500mg Sustanon along with 80mg var 1-7

Just waiting on the gear and then its on!

[Steez]

Never tried it, won my interest.

[sgtanal]

Going to try a EQ, Tren Ace and Prop cycle next year
Heard it is really great!

[perth_fit]

Eq is a must for my cycles.

Min 800mg per week.

Love that stuff helps heaps with appetite.

[Mountain-Man]

Love the stuff I stay on year round now

[benlash74]

Love the stuff I stay on year round now

How much do you run year round mountain man? I been running it now for four weeks at 800mgs. My endurance has improved by quite a bit. Looking at staying on for 12 weeks. Seen some people cruise on it, just wondering at what dose.

[Docmdnite]

Well the first post mentioned 300-400mg/week is typical dose. I always run at 400/week myself when I use it. Although most everyone here seems to run it at much higher doses

[Gator61]

Running now 1g test E , 600 mg Bold Cyp 200 mg bolde unde, 150 mg NPP. For my joins

[benlash74]

Well the first post mentioned 300-400mg/week is typical dose. I always run at 400/week myself when I use it. Although most everyone here seems to run it at much higher doses

I have noticed a big variation on dosages. Most if not all of the vets say run it at 600mgs to 1000mgs. I got it at 800mgs now just wonder if I could lower it to 600mgs and get the same results.

[DirtRider]

LOVE EQ

[MickStock]

Equipoise + tren ace all the way

[Tbrotherx]

Wow, great post. Thank you

[TheFisherman]

I would love EQ if it didn't give me the anxiety from hell it and this was at 500mg..maybe I'll try it next time at 3-400


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[Tbrotherx]

I would love EQ if it didn't give me the anxiety from hell it and this was at 500mg..maybe I'll try it next time at 3-400


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what is the anxiety like, or does it more exacerbate anxieties you already have?

I suffer some ocd and anxiety. Was told to avoid tren and eq, even deca in some circumstances completely

[Runfromsafety]

Thank you so much for taking the time to post that! Very beneficial! This information helped me quite a bit! Again, thank you!

[TheFisherman]

what is the anxiety like, or does it more exacerbate anxieties you already have?

I suffer some ocd and anxiety. Was told to avoid tren and eq, even deca in some circumstances completely

No I never had anxiety I don't suffer from it. But equipoise gave me crazy anxiety and panic attacks. I would be applying for jobs and would have to sit down before calling the place to see if they received my resume because I couldn't catch my breath lol. It's just intense fear I got from it and crazy tunnel vision from the adrenaline. I only ran it for 3 weeks and it took a while to leave the system. Funny because I ran equipoise two years ago and it didn't affect me like my last run.


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[Tbrotherx]

No I never had anxiety I don't suffer from it. But equipoise gave me crazy anxiety and panic attacks. I would be applying for jobs and would have to sit down before calling the place to see if they received my resume because I couldn't catch my breath lol. It's just intense fear I got from it and crazy tunnel vision from the adrenaline. I only ran it for 3 weeks and it took a while to leave the system. Funny because I ran equipoise two years ago and it didn't affect me like my last run.


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What was your dose? I've heard that the anxiety could be due to the raised hematocrit level, but not sure. I'm assuming anxiety could be avoided with lower doses,but longer cycles?

Another theory is how ugl eq supposedly has tons of impurities now... Not sure, but some say they didn't experience the sides with vet grade eq.

[TheFisherman]

What was your dose? I've heard that the anxiety could be due to the raised hematocrit level, but not sure. I'm assuming anxiety could be avoided with lower doses,but longer cycles?

Another theory is how ugl eq supposedly has tons of impurities now... Not sure, but some say they didn't experience the sides with vet grade eq.

I was running it at 500mg, crazy because I ran it before at 600mg but didn't get all the crazy side effects. You say impurities, you mean like dirty gear = increased side effects? I want to run it again but maybe try another lab. Probably 300-450mg this time.


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[Tbrotherx]

I was running it at 500mg, crazy because I ran it before at 600mg but didn't get all the crazy side effects. You say impurities, you mean like dirty gear = increased side effects? I want to run it again but maybe try another lab. Probably 300-450mg this time.


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The actual powder over the years has chemically changed and is less like eq than it was

If I run it, it will be at 300mg a week and just train hard, eat correctly to make gains. I definitely think you should try it lower with a good lab

[TheFisherman]

The actual powder over the years has chemically changed and is less like eq than it was

If I run it, it will be at 300mg a week and just train hard, eat correctly to make gains. I definitely think you should try it lower with a good lab

Yea I think I'm gonna go for that. It's nice to have a little mild anabolic added. A bottle will last me 9-10 weeks already.


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[Tbrotherx]

Yea I think I'm gonna go for that. It's nice to have a little mild anabolic added. A bottle will last me 9-10 weeks already.


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Thats a good plan bro, please keep us updated.


im on the fence between npp or eq, I think npp would be more appropriate.

[TheFisherman]

Thats a good plan bro, please keep us updated.


im on the fence between npp or eq, I think npp would be more appropriate.

Advantage of NPP, faster acting more mass and joint lubrication. Just gotta have extra ancillaries on hand with the pinning lol. Definitely would pick it over deca though.


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[Masse]

Good read brother

[JB ROBO]

Thankfully no anxiety from eq for me. Running 600 ew of robo though so that's a little low but I thought for sure it would fuck with me.
I like eq a lot. Always an underrated compound in cycles. It really is pretty effective.

[panda72]

The increased appetite worries me a little. Anyone got info on how bad the hunger is?

[Goldfinger]

The increased appetite worries me a little. Anyone got info on how bad the hunger is?

I don't think anyone's going to be able to nail this down for you. Everyone seems to react differently to EQ. Personally, I have never thought it was that bad. I could definitely tell a difference, but not to the point that it I couldn't work around it. Of course that being said, most of my experience with it was back in the day and I actually found it to be of benefit when I was bulking and even cutting. Back then, when i would cut, i'd follow Bodyopus and by around the 3rd or 4th week in I would really struggle with trying to get enough fat and protein down to hit my daily numbers. So in that instance a small spike in hunger really helped out. Hope this helps bro.

[Goldfinger]

Hey, i'm curious to know how many of you run your EQ by itself? I know Bro-science these days frowns upon ever running a cycle without test, but I and a number of guys used to run it solo years ago and never seemed to have any issues. I always loved the clean, permanent gains I would get from EQ by itself and didn't have to run as many ancillaries with my cycle. I also seemed to feel really good on cycle and the increased stamina was huge during cutting. I'd be interested to hear if anyone is still doing this.

[Scottsendeavor]

thanks for the thread, very good read on EQ,

[TheMan]

I agree with all, nice reading. Thank you for the post

[old fart]

Excellent write up, makes me favor EQ over Deca...

[davidvelezbian06]

Very comprehensive post bro look forward to reading further posts.

[Diesel1965]

After reading about EQ I can't wait to try it.

[Darkmatter86]

keen on starting The EQ and Test E stack in about a months time, was gonna add some Var in the last 4 weeks to see how it all went

[RETIC]

Great info, thanks

[anabolicos]

M/45yrs 6'1 225lbs around
15%BF. TRT for 1yr....@160mg Test-C weekly and .5 Adex every 3days.

Just finished a 10 week blast and back down to my TRT dose now.
Wasn't too happy with my blast results. Need suggestions.

Ran EQ at 600mg a week for 10-weeks. Also ran test at 300mg a week along side the EQ.
Ate clean, trained like an animal.
Wasn't very impressed with EQ.
Didn't do much for me. Couldn't really feel any difference. I lost BF from my diet and training. Just expected alot more. Trained like I was going for the gold medal. Can't say it was my training. Ate 2200 cal a day. 200g of protein or more per day. 40min of fasted cardio in the am with 1hr of heavy lift in at night.
5-days a week.

What is a good compound to run with Test for a Guy my age. Looking to plan my next program.

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[Herc]

M/45yrs 6'1 225lbs around
15%BF. TRT for 1yr....@160mg Test-C weekly and .5 Adex every 3days.

Just finished a 10 week blast and back down to my TRT dose now.
Wasn't too happy with my blast results. Need suggestions.

Ran EQ at 600mg a week for 10-weeks. Also ran test at 300mg a week along side the EQ.
Ate clean, trained like an animal.
Wasn't very impressed with EQ.
Didn't do much for me. Couldn't really feel any difference. I lost BF from my diet and training. Just expected alot more. Trained like I was going for the gold medal. Can't say it was my training. Ate 2200 cal a day. 200g of protein or more per day. 40min of fasted cardio in the am with 1hr of heavy lift in at night.
5-days a week.

What is a good compound to run with Test for a Guy my age. Looking to plan my next program.

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Start your own thread in the proper category "

Anabolic Steroid Discussion." You'll get much more help than posting at the tail end of someone elses thread. No one will see it here.

[NoXainNoGain]

Amazing info thanks

[NoXainNoGain]

Pharmaceutical Name: Boldenone (as undecylenate)
Chemical structure: 1,4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-ol
Effective dose: 300-600 mg/week




For something that is generally injected into cows, horses and dogs boldenone is quite a popular and well-liked drug by most bodybuilders because of its unique make-up. It possesses several characteristics that aren't found in any other substance and its use is so varied its much desired year-round. Boldenone is a decent anabolic coupled with both a mild androgenic and a mild estrogenic effect. Sort of like a weak testosterone. In structure it doesn't differ all that much from testosterone, the main anomaly being a double bond in the one position as well as the 4 position. Its nonetheless quite good at promoting gains, but mostly through a combination of androgenic potential and other media than the androgen and estrogen receptors.

The strange thing about its androgenic component is that it is mostly not mediated by a 5-alpha-reduced form, as is the case for most steroids. While it does indeed form a very potent 5AR form (dihydroboldenone, roughly 7 times as anabolic as testosterone1) its shows a very low affinity for the 5-alpha-reducatase enzyme2. This leads to the conclusion that a large part of the anabolic effect boldenone exerts is formed by the hormone itself binding to the androgen receptor. This could also be the reason its had such a successful run as a veterinary drug, because despite differences in the metabolism of species it has always produced extraordinary results.

Like most anabolic steroids it increases muscle mass over time by increasing nitrogen retention and positively influencing protein synthesis or re-synthesis. An action that is not necessarily supported by an androgenic mediator as was shown with nandrolone. What boldenone has that other steroids don't is that it indirectly supplies the necessary means for that protein synthesis because it drastically increases the appetite. Thereby facilitating the high nutritional intake (especially protein wise) needed to book the best results when using anabolic androgenic steroids. Its more of a benefit than you think as a lot of people have theorized that it is this increase that is responsible for the great results booked when using boldenone. This theory may hold its own as there is indeed not much proof of the kind of anabolic activity with boldenone that would be responsible for the elicited effect.

Its estrogenic activities are slight, but present. This has more of a positive than negative influence. The aromatisation of boldenone is too small to cause real problems and in normal doses (300-400 mg/week) problems such as gynocomastia and too much fat retention are unheard of. However small aromatisation is desirable as estrogen too mediates anabolic activity. It can be responsible for better glucose utilization3,4 (repleting lost glycogen stores after exercise) and stimulating increased growth hormone release5. But most notably estrogen is responsible for an upgrading of the androgen receptor6 allowing hormones that act on the androgen receptor to exert a larger anabolic effect. This is why hormones that are strong androgens but also aromatize heavily, like anadrol and testosterone, can put the most mass on your frame. In that aspect boldenone is perhaps the most suitable steroid because of its moderate estrogen levels that allow for the benefits, but not the side-effects of aromatization. And no doubt the perfect balance is partially responsible for stimulation of the appetite.

For athletes of sports other than strength sports or bodybuilding will also note that boldenone is quite likely the most favorable steroid for them to use as it also stimulates the release of erythropoeitin in the kidneys. Erythropoeitin is a hormone known as EPO and heavily abused among endurance athletes because it signals the body to increase the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Red blood cells are the carrier of oxygen in the body, meaning that a higher maximal oxygen capacity can be obtained and better performance can be achieved over longer amounts of time before lactic acid is built up, which would in turn result in cramps and a cessation of the activity at that level. In short it improves your stamina. For bodybuilders this characteristic may be useful in promoting increased vascularity.

In that aspect boldenone combined with a non-aromatizing steroid like Winstrol or Primobolan may be perfect to help you get cut and ripped while improving vascularity. The downside to that is that you really need to try hard to suppress the increased appetite. Which is why its probably a better idea to stack a somewhat larger dose of boldenone with a mass building drug like testosterone or anadrol to elicit major gains.

The negative effects of boldenone are quite limited. In the normal doses of 300-400 mg a week estrogenic side-effects are almost never noted except in those who are very succeptible to estrogen. In terms of androgenic side-effects long-term use or very intense use of boldenone can cause slight virilizing effects such as acne and increased body-hair growth. Never really a problem for men, but women considering its use on account of its moderate androgenic qualities should be aware of this.

As an undecylenate ester, boldenone needs only be injected every week (staying active well over 4 weeks), but because the preparations come in 25 mg/ml, users most often opt for 25-50 mg every day to every other day. A use of 300-400 mg per week seems to be the normal recommendation. Its not hepatoxic to any serious degree and can therefore be used for longer cycles. The appearance of underground forms of boldenone in higher concentrations (200 mg/ml) has made it easier to inject only once a week, which is to be preffered over the multiple dosings because it has a more even release and the cumulative effect shows much sooner. Speaking of cumulative effect, the best results with boldenone are seen when a user front-loads. Usually that means he will use a high doses of 600-800 mg/week for 2 weeks and then lower that dose to the normal 300-400 mg/week for the remaining 8-10 weeks.

Boldenone is most often used for cutting. Its stacking partners for this purpose in particular are trenbolone, stanazolol and testosterone propionate. I'm no big fan of testosterone for cutting, although propionate is commonly used with great success by many users. Nonetheless I don't recommend test for cutting for beginners. Stanazolol is particularly useful in improving muscle hardness and strength while boldenone offers increased vascularity without overly aromatizing. The use of 50 mg of stanazolol every day, stacked with 300-400 mg per week of boldenone should serve the purpose of retaining gains and gaining increased definition and vascularity while shedding fat very well. Trenbolone would be a better match for those looking for moderate but very lean gains. Parabolan at 76 mg every other day for example will provide a decent increase in lean mass in combination with boldenone, without having to sacrifice shape or definition. Of course any combination of the above is an option as well. For example 300 mg of equipoise per week stacked with 76 mg of parabolan every other day and 50 mg of Winstrol every day, possibly with some test propionate at 50 mg a day.

But though rarely mentioned, I personally find boldenone the better choice for bulking. Due to its effect on vascularity it is mostly used for cutting, but if you had a drug that increased your appetite like boldenone does, would you really use it to lose weight? It makes more sense to use it in a stack with a testosterone ester like enanthate or cypionate for good gains, instead of nandrolone. Sort of as a base. It aromatizes less than nandrolone and doesn't have that pesky progestagenic effect either, and because it increases appetite it would provide you with the means to an end in terms of gaining weight. 300-400 mg a week of boldenone with 500 mg of sustanon or 500 mg of testosterone enanthate would form an incredible stack. Even for those who prefer deca, adding a small amount of boldenone will go a long way in improving appetite. But boldenone is stronger than Deca, mg for mg, as well as safer and less suppressive.

Boldenone makes a very poor match for nandrolone and methenolone though, since its very similar in action. The beauty of boldenone is that it can be an alternative for nandrolone when bulking due to its leaner results and more potent anabolic action, as well as an alternative for methenolone because while barely aromatizing its stronger than methenolone (Primobolan), gram for gram. The use of secondary drugs is rarely required. It doesn't aromatize at a great rate so the use of anti-aromatases is rarely implemented and the use of Nolva and clomid, during a cycle, is only necessary when stacked with aromatizing steroids like testosterone. Nolvadex or Clomid may have some use in restoring natural test post-cycle, because of the long-acting ester (11 carbons) and the mild estrogenic component. Normally 4 weeks of treatment is required, starting 1.5 to 2 weeks after the last shot.

Wow that was a powerful post you really blew my mind I really need to learn about EQ and you literally give me all the answers thank you so much

[ironmaster]

Back in the day mid to late 90's would get EQ in 10ml vials @ 50mg/ml in vet form and would run it from as little as 6 weeks to 12 weeks doing 3ml shot 2xwk or 2ml eod what a pain in the butt if you know what I mean. Always got good results on a dose of 300/400mg per week. Made you really full. Sometimes would just run it by itself but if wanting more mass and body weight gain from the cycle would add test to the mix 200/300mg wk.

Moving into the 2000's along comes EQ @ 200mg/ml and this is when I really got the most out of EQ. Now you could run a good dose without as much volume of oil. But here is the secret no one really talks about. You here guys saying you must run EQ at least 16 weeks to see results due to the long ester. This is not true.

What we all did was what ever amount of EQ we used for the cycle we would all double the dose for the first two weeks and this enabled you to hit peak results after 8-12 weeks.

The first time I did it this way worked like a treat and from that day on this is who I have always cycled EQ.

I choose to do 400mg/wk so for the first 2 weeks I took 800mg and then the remaining 8 weeks of the 10 week cycle took 400mg/wk

here is a picture of one of those 10ml vet vials I use to use back in the day

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[Archey]

Eq is one of my favorite it takes time best results happen after 12 weeks right now running test eq and primo going to see how that works out first eq cycle results were amazing

[Diesel1965]

I'm looking forward to continuing to run it. I'll start off again at 400 mg a week and gradually ramp it up it up.

[ironmaster]

I'm looking forward to continuing to run it. I'll start off again at 400 mg a week and gradually ramp it up it up.
Front load it with double the dose first 2 weeks and it will kick in faster.

[Archey]

Front load it with double the dose first 2 weeks and it will kick in faster.

Fromt load is scary eq definitely can have anxiety issues most eq ive ever run was 900 and that was 13 weeks in had to go back to 800 my blood pressure got out of hand results were amazing

[Archey]

I'm looking forward to continuing to run it. I'll start off again at 400 mg a week and gradually ramp it up it up.

Try to take it to 800 im on it now and at 600mg im getting results but they came way faster at 800

[astevens2]

Very informative and very underrated drug imo. Most people claim they dont feel is so they deem it worthless.

[Gainzbruh]

I feel good on Test, Tren and EQ.

EQ fixes Tren’s fatigue and lack of appetite.

[Bullcrew]

EQ has made me hungry as hell....
I'm onion skinned normally so veins always pop out on me but eq has helped them to stick out a bit more...

Could definitely tell when it started to kick in for me it was week 7.....

I use it for lean gains, I need cardio, hiit training and speed....I have had no Ill side effects as far as blown out cardio....all remains solid...

[meatneck71]

Eq is arguably the best steroid out there next to test. The best cycle was my first - 250 test per week 1-10 and 400 eq 1-12, with winny 50 ed 6-12. 6% bf, benching 315 at 165.

[Jaggs91]

I like adding it to my test deca cycles..

[Kuahara]

Does eq really increase your appetite??

[Ranga]

I'm surprised this isn't stickied considering it's such a commonly used AAS.

[Archey]

Dhb is much better im on my 3rd week of dhb and its way stronger im way more vascular way stronger and thats at 500mg ive run eq 1g and havent had the results 500 is giving me i love eq to but if you want more for your money and faster results dhb is way better

[meatneck71]

I'm surprised this isn't stickied considering it's such a commonly used AAS.

It should be stickied, thought it was..

[chadmack282]

I know this question is individual specific but out of curiosity what mg/week of EQ increases your appetite?
I have done EQ several times a 500 & 600mg/week with no noticeable appetite increase.

[Jaggs91]

I know this question is individual specific but out of curiosity what mg/week of EQ increases your appetite?
I have done EQ several times a 500 & 600mg/week with no noticeable appetite increase.I'm running EQ at 800mgs a week right now and thats about where I've ran it in the past the times I've used it and I don't get much of an appetite increase at all from it.. I've always struggled with not having a big enough appetite to put down as much calories as id like but I recently gave ghrp-6 a try and it works wonders for appetite! I can eat as much as I want and I'm still always able to eat when taking it. I hear mk-677 is great for increasing appetite as well, I'd give one of those a try if your looking for a bigger appetite.

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[chadmack282]

I'm running EQ at 800mgs a week right now and thats about where I've ran it in the past the times I've used it and I don't get much of an appetite increase at all from it.. I've always struggled with not having a big enough appetite to put down as much calories as id like but I recently gave ghrp-6 a try and it works wonders for appetite! I can eat as much as I want and I'm still always able to eat when taking it. I hear mk-677 is great for increasing appetite as well, I'd give one of those a try if your looking for a bigger appetite.

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What's your ghrp-6 protocol?

[Jaggs91]

What's your ghrp-6 protocol?I started at 100mcgs twice a day but have bumped it up to 300mcgs in the morning and 200mcgs post workout. They say your body can desensitize to it quick but I've been using it for 3 weeks and still works great for me. Its pretty cheap too so definitely worth it imo.

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[nimrod1414]

Thanks for that - I am a guy who has problems keeping my hematocrit in check - probably not a good choice for me - would you agree?

[jrock645]

Running EQ next year... so looking forward to it.

[Booker]

I knew I could count on finding some good info on use of EQ. The increased in red blood cells for O2 transport make taking this on a cut cycle that much more intriguing to me. Also, the bulk cycle sounds simple enough. I have read that extending the cycle over 14wk is a good length and at a minimum of 12wks. That’s important because of the slow release from the undecylenate ester (14 Day Half-Life). Also, delay the PCT for 2 wks.

Booker

[rocknroll]

Did you ever run this an dog so, how’s it go? How log did you run the eq? Did you run the anavar 4 weeks as you mentioned? Just started eq a few days ago.


keen on starting The EQ and Test E stack in about a months time, was gonna add some Var in the last 4 weeks to see how it all went

[rocknroll]

Was planing on running:
EQ 400/wk
Test E 300/week
Test prop 200/week with Arimadex (TRT)

Thinking ill run above 12-16 weeks.

anavar the last 8 weeks

will see how it goes!

[Kingjay0]

Love it. Great Post

[rocknroll]

This should be a sticky in this section shouldn’t it with the other profiles?

[rocknroll]

Anyone have insight about running EQ at higher diesel than test…for example say a 2:1 ratio…400 EQ with 200 test? Or does it need to be more 1:1.

I believe EQ can do weird things to E2 and therefore might need more teat to avoid crashing e2?

[Mr.Smith45]

This should be a sticky in this section shouldn’t it with the other profiles?

The first post in this thread is like the sticky.

[Mr.Smith45]

Anyone have insight about running EQ at higher diesel than test…for example say a 2:1 ratio…400 EQ with 200 test? Or does it need to be more 1:1.

I believe EQ can do weird things to E2 and therefore might need more teat to avoid crashing e2?

Well, I've found EQ varies greatly person to person in dose required and side effects. 200mg/wk of test isn't much to run, so EQ may throw off your estro. That being said, I personally haven't got results from EQ under 600mg/wk and that's with a front load, so I may not be a good responder to EQ. I feel Deca/NPP is a much better bang for my buck.

[ironjunkie777]

Well, I've found EQ varies greatly person to person in dose required and side effects. 200mg/wk of test isn't much to run, so EQ may throw off your estro. That being said, I personally haven't got results from EQ under 600mg/wk and that's with a front load, so I may not be a good responder to EQ. I feel Deca/NPP is a much better bang for my buck.

800mg week is my sweet spot.


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[MarvelNerd]

800mg week is my sweet spot.


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At 800 mg a week I would have myself convinced the world was ending tomorrow.
I found out a few years back I was highly susceptible to the anxiety side of EQ. Not my best cycle.

[ironjunkie777]

At 800 mg a week I would have myself convinced the world was ending tomorrow.
I found out a few years back I was highly susceptible to the anxiety side of EQ. Not my best cycle.

Did you bail out on the cycle?? I’ve heard a lot people have that side effect


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[MarvelNerd]

Did you bail out on the cycle?? I’ve heard a lot people have that side effect


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Heck no, I ran it until the end. Never again though.
It was suppose to offset tren and it made the acetate that much more difficult to function with.
I like to think I am mentally tough enough, but it ruined the cycle. The sleep, the mentality, eating, and everything around the cycle was displaced as I tried to convince myself I could make it.
There were other issues too. I crashed my estrogen. Went hypoglycemic because of low carbs with tren. One for the record books.

[Mr.Smith45]

That sucks. Crashed estro could take a while to recover from, on top of everything else.

[MarvelNerd]

That sucks. Crashed estro could take a while to recover from, on top of everything else.

Stopped using adex after that cycle.
Started doing regular blood testing also.
Really started researching chemicals before they go together.
I wouldn’t run tren and EQ together now because I think it would be risky for the blood cell count.
Took a few months to be normal and not worried.

[Mr.Smith45]

That was a hard lesson, most of us probably learned the hard way. Bloods are a must and so is Aromasin for me, don't count on feeling your way through a cycle.

[MarvelNerd]

I pull bloods before and during a cycle now. Only use Asin.

[Dro]

At 800 mg a week I would have myself convinced the world was ending tomorrow.
I found out a few years back I was highly susceptible to the anxiety side of EQ. Not my best cycle.

Anxiety is the only reason I would not even consider EQ. Otherwise I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[MarvelNerd]

Anxiety is the only reason I would not even consider EQ. Otherwise I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I have heard it goes away in a week or two for some people. I never thought I had an issue with anxiety, but as I get older it can be more prevalent.

[rocknroll]

It definitely causes anxiety for me and paranoia a bit…but I love eq too much to not still use ��

[rocknroll]

Running now...hits me about week 12. Love EQ