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FREEKSHOW
11-26-2011, 03:16 AM
Pharmaceutical Name: Methenolone (orally as acetate, injections as enanthate)
Chemical structure: 17 beta-hydroxy-1-methyl-5 alpha-androst-1-en-3-one
Effective dose: 200-300 mg/week injections or 50-150 mg/day orally


Primobolan is a well-known and popular steroid as well. Like nandrolone it's most often used as a base compound for stacking with other steroids. Methenolone however, is a DHT-based steroid (actually, DHB or dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced of the milder boldenon). Meaning when it interacts with the aromatase enzyme it does not form estrogens at all. That makes it ideal for use when cutting when excess estrogen is best avoided because of its retentive effects on water and fat. Methenolone is mostly only used in such instances, or by people who are very succeptible to estrogenic side-effects, because the anabolic activity of methenolone is slightly lower than that of nandrolone, quite likely BECAUSE it is non-estrogenic.

Because it is a widely available steroid its often used as a replacement for nandrolone or boldenone to those who have no access to Deca-Durabolin or Laurabolin or Equipoise. When stacked with a heavy mass steroid like testosterone and/or methandrostenolone it can deliver almost similar gains. Those seeking to cut will most likely be very pleased stacking it with drostanolone, stanozolol or trenbolone. Women and beginners also stack methenolone WITH nandrolone because this gives a mildly anabolic stack that is generally regarded as one of the safer stacks around in an androgenic perspective. But alas, with the nandrolone, also a very suppressive stack.

Methenolone is available as an injection or as an oral. The injection is naturally regarded as better. Its an enanthate ester which is quite long-acting and only needs to be injected once a week in doses of 300-600 mg. Because it by-passes hepatic breakdown on the first pass, it also has a higher survival rate. The orals are a lot less handy, but often preferred by bodybuilders who are afraid of needles or who are already taking one or more injectable compounds. The tabs are in a short-lived acetate form, meaning that doses of 100-150 mg per day are needed, split over 2 or 3 doses, making the tabs quite inconvenient for use. The reason doses need to be split up, unlike most oral steroids, is because Methenolone is not 17-alpha-alkylated, but 1-methylated for oral bio-availability. This reduces the liver stress, but also the availability, hence the multiple and high doses needed daily.

Like nandrolone, methenolone is very mild on the system. Probably the reason why both are strongly favored as base compounds in stacks. Methenolone has no estrogenic side-effects whatsoever, on account of its structure. Its effects on the cholesterol levels are barely noticeable. In doses of 200 mg or less (injectable) blood pressure is rarely, if at all, altered. As for hepatoxicity, long-term use will of course increase liver values but gradually and only slightly. The injections of course, since they only pass the liver once, have roughly half the liver-toxic effects of the tabs. The low liver-toxicity is accounted for that the bio-availability of methenolone is carried by a 1-methyl-group, which lessens the need for a carrier attachment such as a 17-alpha-akylated group, the main culprit in steroid-related liver afflictions.

The strangest thing however, taking into account that Primo is still a DHT (or rather DHB) derivative, is that it is quite easy on the system androgenically as well. Women use methenolone often, usually the tabs, and find little virilisation symptoms in short term use of methenolone. Long-term use may induce some acne and a deepening of the voice however. Methenolone is also not overly suppressive of the HPT axis (endocrinal axis for the production of natural testosterone). These are both the result of DHB's 1,2-double bond, which, analog to the parent structure boldenone, reduces the androgenic binding by 50% as opposed to DHT.

For athletes who wish to maintain a "natural" status in competition, the tablets are quite well-suited as detection chances for the acetate-form are quite slim. However tests have improved and quite a number of metabolites1 of methenolone can be detected with a simple urine sample. But an English study documented that there is a liability in eating methenolone contaminated meats2, which could provide a possible defense if found out. One could always claim they ate the meat of a chicken or cow injected with methenolone since the test concluded eating such meat does not improve performance, but can deliver positive tests for several methenolone metabolites almost 24 hours after ingestion. That's for those of you seeking a viable defense against a possible methenolone-positive.

Methenolone comes in orals and injectables. The injectables are to be preferred as they can be used for quite some time and only require injecting once a week. The orals are taking every day, or multiple times a day. An oral passes through the liver twice. An injectable only once. The injectable is more effective since less is broken down.

Methenolone is not used all that often by experienced users. It makes a good product as an alternative to Deca or EQ in a cutting stack, because it has similar properties but does not aromatize and does not have progestagenic activity. But those at least slightly versed will prefer boldenone over methenolone as its more potent gram for gram. Its quite mild, so its not as prone to cause your standard side-effects. This too makes it quite popular with beginners. Methenolone was quite popular during the 70's in stacks with Methandrostenolone. Some of the all-time greats of bodybuilding were quite fond of this stack. The common use is similar to that of Nandrolone. 300-400 mg a week, in conjunction with other steroids mostly. Some attempt to make up for the lack of potency switching from nandrolone or boldenone to methenolone by using higher doses, in the neighbourhood of 600-800 mg a week. At that point I feel it would be cheaper to opt for boldenone at 300-400 mg a week though. Methenolone makes a poor stacking partner in mass stacks as both Deca and EQ provide better results while they are qualitatively similar. There is a slight merit in stacking Methenolone with boldenone, because apart from its 1-methyl group, methenolone is basically DHB, the 5-alpha-reduced form of boldenone. But since boldenone itself has very low affinity for 5-alpha-reduction, it should have a good synergistic effect stacking the two at 300 mg/week each.

MetalMonster63
01-18-2016, 01:27 AM
so deca is a little better than primo?

landmarkchem
01-20-2016, 07:36 AM
Nice post bro , helpful .

Hitman05
06-01-2016, 10:27 PM
Nice post bro! My wife wants to try something n I think this is best option she tinny but wants to tone more she is thin as shit but you know woman !!


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Mountain-Man
06-01-2016, 11:21 PM
I'll let the wife stick with primo

rocky83
06-08-2016, 11:59 PM
I'm gonna give it a shot soon.

Ludlowbrah
07-13-2016, 09:00 PM
I want to try Primo. Mostly because your bloats are limited and you gain more "lean muscle" that you end up mostly keeping after the cycle as opposed to Deca where you go up more, but then lose a great deal of it as a result of water retention.

Never done it though.

cricketnoise
05-09-2017, 04:06 AM
I am really looking for somebody who has some real long term experience with it. It seems to me that most of the info I found is consistent there are other ares of info I found that are contrary to each other.


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Steele7
06-13-2017, 01:15 AM
Pharmaceutical Name: Methenolone (orally as acetate, injections as enanthate)
Chemical structure: 17 beta-hydroxy-1-methyl-5 alpha-androst-1-en-3-one
Effective dose: 200-300 mg/week injections or 50-150 mg/day orally


Primobolan is a well-known and popular steroid as well. Like nandrolone it's most often used as a base compound for stacking with other steroids. Methenolone however, is a DHT-based steroid (actually, DHB or dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced of the milder boldenon). Meaning when it interacts with the aromatase enzyme it does not form estrogens at all. That makes it ideal for use when cutting when excess estrogen is best avoided because of its retentive effects on water and fat. Methenolone is mostly only used in such instances, or by people who are very succeptible to estrogenic side-effects, because the anabolic activity of methenolone is slightly lower than that of nandrolone, quite likely BECAUSE it is non-estrogenic.

Because it is a widely available steroid its often used as a replacement for nandrolone or boldenone to those who have no access to Deca-Durabolin or Laurabolin or Equipoise. When stacked with a heavy mass steroid like testosterone and/or methandrostenolone it can deliver almost similar gains. Those seeking to cut will most likely be very pleased stacking it with drostanolone, stanozolol or trenbolone. Women and beginners also stack methenolone WITH nandrolone because this gives a mildly anabolic stack that is generally regarded as one of the safer stacks around in an androgenic perspective. But alas, with the nandrolone, also a very suppressive stack.

Methenolone is available as an injection or as an oral. The injection is naturally regarded as better. Its an enanthate ester which is quite long-acting and only needs to be injected once a week in doses of 300-600 mg. Because it by-passes hepatic breakdown on the first pass, it also has a higher survival rate. The orals are a lot less handy, but often preferred by bodybuilders who are afraid of needles or who are already taking one or more injectable compounds. The tabs are in a short-lived acetate form, meaning that doses of 100-150 mg per day are needed, split over 2 or 3 doses, making the tabs quite inconvenient for use. The reason doses need to be split up, unlike most oral steroids, is because Methenolone is not 17-alpha-alkylated, but 1-methylated for oral bio-availability. This reduces the liver stress, but also the availability, hence the multiple and high doses needed daily.

Like nandrolone, methenolone is very mild on the system. Probably the reason why both are strongly favored as base compounds in stacks. Methenolone has no estrogenic side-effects whatsoever, on account of its structure. Its effects on the cholesterol levels are barely noticeable. In doses of 200 mg or less (injectable) blood pressure is rarely, if at all, altered. As for hepatoxicity, long-term use will of course increase liver values but gradually and only slightly. The injections of course, since they only pass the liver once, have roughly half the liver-toxic effects of the tabs. The low liver-toxicity is accounted for that the bio-availability of methenolone is carried by a 1-methyl-group, which lessens the need for a carrier attachment such as a 17-alpha-akylated group, the main culprit in steroid-related liver afflictions.

The strangest thing however, taking into account that Primo is still a DHT (or rather DHB) derivative, is that it is quite easy on the system androgenically as well. Women use methenolone often, usually the tabs, and find little virilisation symptoms in short term use of methenolone. Long-term use may induce some acne and a deepening of the voice however. Methenolone is also not overly suppressive of the HPT axis (endocrinal axis for the production of natural testosterone). These are both the result of DHB's 1,2-double bond, which, analog to the parent structure boldenone, reduces the androgenic binding by 50% as opposed to DHT.

For athletes who wish to maintain a "natural" status in competition, the tablets are quite well-suited as detection chances for the acetate-form are quite slim. However tests have improved and quite a number of metabolites1 of methenolone can be detected with a simple urine sample. But an English study documented that there is a liability in eating methenolone contaminated meats2, which could provide a possible defense if found out. One could always claim they ate the meat of a chicken or cow injected with methenolone since the test concluded eating such meat does not improve performance, but can deliver positive tests for several methenolone metabolites almost 24 hours after ingestion. That's for those of you seeking a viable defense against a possible methenolone-positive.

Methenolone comes in orals and injectables. The injectables are to be preferred as they can be used for quite some time and only require injecting once a week. The orals are taking every day, or multiple times a day. An oral passes through the liver twice. An injectable only once. The injectable is more effective since less is broken down.

Methenolone is not used all that often by experienced users. It makes a good product as an alternative to Deca or EQ in a cutting stack, because it has similar properties but does not aromatize and does not have progestagenic activity. But those at least slightly versed will prefer boldenone over methenolone as its more potent gram for gram. Its quite mild, so its not as prone to cause your standard side-effects. This too makes it quite popular with beginners. Methenolone was quite popular during the 70's in stacks with Methandrostenolone. Some of the all-time greats of bodybuilding were quite fond of this stack. The common use is similar to that of Nandrolone. 300-400 mg a week, in conjunction with other steroids mostly. Some attempt to make up for the lack of potency switching from nandrolone or boldenone to methenolone by using higher doses, in the neighbourhood of 600-800 mg a week. At that point I feel it would be cheaper to opt for boldenone at 300-400 mg a week though. Methenolone makes a poor stacking partner in mass stacks as both Deca and EQ provide better results while they are qualitatively similar. There is a slight merit in stacking Methenolone with boldenone, because apart from its 1-methyl group, methenolone is basically DHB, the 5-alpha-reduced form of boldenone. But since boldenone itself has very low affinity for 5-alpha-reduction, it should have a good synergistic effect stacking the two at 300 mg/week each.
Thanks FREEKSHOW,
I HONESTLY DON'T FEEL THIS POST COULD HAVE BEEN ANY MORE INFORMATIVE OR HELPFUL.
BIG UPS BROTHER

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bigdaddy
06-13-2017, 01:40 AM
Pharmaceutical Name: Methenolone (orally as acetate, injections as enanthate)
Chemical structure: 17 beta-hydroxy-1-methyl-5 alpha-androst-1-en-3-one
Effective dose: 200-300 mg/week injections or 50-150 mg/day orally


Primobolan is a well-known and popular steroid as well. Like nandrolone it's most often used as a base compound for stacking with other steroids. Methenolone however, is a DHT-based steroid (actually, DHB or dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced of the milder boldenon). Meaning when it interacts with the aromatase enzyme it does not form estrogens at all. That makes it ideal for use when cutting when excess estrogen is best avoided because of its retentive effects on water and fat. Methenolone is mostly only used in such instances, or by people who are very succeptible to estrogenic side-effects, because the anabolic activity of methenolone is slightly lower than that of nandrolone, quite likely BECAUSE it is non-estrogenic.

Because it is a widely available steroid its often used as a replacement for nandrolone or boldenone to those who have no access to Deca-Durabolin or Laurabolin or Equipoise. When stacked with a heavy mass steroid like testosterone and/or methandrostenolone it can deliver almost similar gains. Those seeking to cut will most likely be very pleased stacking it with drostanolone, stanozolol or trenbolone. Women and beginners also stack methenolone WITH nandrolone because this gives a mildly anabolic stack that is generally regarded as one of the safer stacks around in an androgenic perspective. But alas, with the nandrolone, also a very suppressive stack.

Methenolone is available as an injection or as an oral. The injection is naturally regarded as better. Its an enanthate ester which is quite long-acting and only needs to be injected once a week in doses of 300-600 mg. Because it by-passes hepatic breakdown on the first pass, it also has a higher survival rate. The orals are a lot less handy, but often preferred by bodybuilders who are afraid of needles or who are already taking one or more injectable compounds. The tabs are in a short-lived acetate form, meaning that doses of 100-150 mg per day are needed, split over 2 or 3 doses, making the tabs quite inconvenient for use. The reason doses need to be split up, unlike most oral steroids, is because Methenolone is not 17-alpha-alkylated, but 1-methylated for oral bio-availability. This reduces the liver stress, but also the availability, hence the multiple and high doses needed daily.

Like nandrolone, methenolone is very mild on the system. Probably the reason why both are strongly favored as base compounds in stacks. Methenolone has no estrogenic side-effects whatsoever, on account of its structure. Its effects on the cholesterol levels are barely noticeable. In doses of 200 mg or less (injectable) blood pressure is rarely, if at all, altered. As for hepatoxicity, long-term use will of course increase liver values but gradually and only slightly. The injections of course, since they only pass the liver once, have roughly half the liver-toxic effects of the tabs. The low liver-toxicity is accounted for that the bio-availability of methenolone is carried by a 1-methyl-group, which lessens the need for a carrier attachment such as a 17-alpha-akylated group, the main culprit in steroid-related liver afflictions.

The strangest thing however, taking into account that Primo is still a DHT (or rather DHB) derivative, is that it is quite easy on the system androgenically as well. Women use methenolone often, usually the tabs, and find little virilisation symptoms in short term use of methenolone. Long-term use may induce some acne and a deepening of the voice however. Methenolone is also not overly suppressive of the HPT axis (endocrinal axis for the production of natural testosterone). These are both the result of DHB's 1,2-double bond, which, analog to the parent structure boldenone, reduces the androgenic binding by 50% as opposed to DHT.

For athletes who wish to maintain a "natural" status in competition, the tablets are quite well-suited as detection chances for the acetate-form are quite slim. However tests have improved and quite a number of metabolites1 of methenolone can be detected with a simple urine sample. But an English study documented that there is a liability in eating methenolone contaminated meats2, which could provide a possible defense if found out. One could always claim they ate the meat of a chicken or cow injected with methenolone since the test concluded eating such meat does not improve performance, but can deliver positive tests for several methenolone metabolites almost 24 hours after ingestion. That's for those of you seeking a viable defense against a possible methenolone-positive.

Methenolone comes in orals and injectables. The injectables are to be preferred as they can be used for quite some time and only require injecting once a week. The orals are taking every day, or multiple times a day. An oral passes through the liver twice. An injectable only once. The injectable is more effective since less is broken down.

Methenolone is not used all that often by experienced users. It makes a good product as an alternative to Deca or EQ in a cutting stack, because it has similar properties but does not aromatize and does not have progestagenic activity. But those at least slightly versed will prefer boldenone over methenolone as its more potent gram for gram. Its quite mild, so its not as prone to cause your standard side-effects. This too makes it quite popular with beginners. Methenolone was quite popular during the 70's in stacks with Methandrostenolone. Some of the all-time greats of bodybuilding were quite fond of this stack. The common use is similar to that of Nandrolone. 300-400 mg a week, in conjunction with other steroids mostly. Some attempt to make up for the lack of potency switching from nandrolone or boldenone to methenolone by using higher doses, in the neighbourhood of 600-800 mg a week. At that point I feel it would be cheaper to opt for boldenone at 300-400 mg a week though. Methenolone makes a poor stacking partner in mass stacks as both Deca and EQ provide better results while they are qualitatively similar. There is a slight merit in stacking Methenolone with boldenone, because apart from its 1-methyl group, methenolone is basically DHB, the 5-alpha-reduced form of boldenone. But since boldenone itself has very low affinity for 5-alpha-reduction, it should have a good synergistic effect stacking the two at 300 mg/week each.

Good info but some of it not consistent with common beliefs about oral primo especially.
I have used this compound consistently for nearly 20 years. The half life of oral Primo acetate is considered to be 2-3 days so splitting of doses throughout the day is totally unnecessary.
It also seems to work best taken on an empty stomach and I usually have a very high protein meal first thing I take in as primo is extremely good at using and transporting all the nitrogen we take in through our protein sources. Using primo without ingesting a lot of protein is in my opinion an absolute waste of a very good compound. If diet isn't spot on and keeping muscle isn't important a person might as well use winstrol and Clen/T3 and put the money he saved on the primo in the bank...my 2 cents



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cricketnoise
06-13-2017, 03:02 AM
So basically what I am doing cutting out some calories of lesser value food sources and adding them with extra protein and quality fats


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goldenbrowninla
06-13-2017, 03:31 AM
Thanks for the post, makes me wanna run some primo

bigdaddy
06-13-2017, 03:34 AM
Its delicious stuff14274


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cricketnoise
06-13-2017, 03:39 AM
I am going to eat now suddenly I have the urge for chicken breast legs thighs juicy


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cricketnoise
06-13-2017, 03:41 AM
Thanks for the post, makes me wanna run some primo

I pin 1cc primo ace and 1cc trestolone ace ed
Test cyp and tren E 2 times a week and take oral winny 50 mg ed.
Overhauled my diet to match cycle needs and trading for lean lean body mass!!


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kremitt003
09-10-2017, 07:21 PM
Is Primo worth the money if you know your getting legit Primo?

bigdaddy
09-10-2017, 07:44 PM
It really depends on what your goal is and the reasons you are choosing to run it...


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Bombarinos
09-12-2017, 12:52 AM
It is just make sure if u giving to wife by test and test the purity i have had two brands and they tested as propionate bro so make sure

bigdaddy
09-12-2017, 02:58 AM
Hopefully not sponsors on any boards that would be a bummer.
Fortunately we get Primo when we order Primo.
My girl has used Eq very successfully also 50mg week really incredible results. Wish it was that easy for me.1697216973


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Bombarinos
09-12-2017, 06:54 PM
Na not from here bro lookin good

bigdaddy
09-12-2017, 07:11 PM
That's her primo look. Eq a little "fuller"


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ski748134
09-18-2017, 08:50 AM
Primo is 100% worth the money my best cycle to date primo e 800mg test cyp 400mg npp 600 Winny 50mg a week looked and felt like a million bucks went back to a deca test cycle and love it also but primo is the shit just do your homework

Bombarinos
09-18-2017, 05:33 PM
Ski you have to go that high on primo? For result?

Primemuscle
12-16-2017, 02:48 AM
Never thought of running primo with eq at 300mg per week. Interesting concept[emoji848]


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CourtneyScott
04-17-2018, 12:41 AM
running 1000mg EQ right now thinking of adding 600mg primo E or HGH for a very long term cycle. Primo seems like less of hassle than HGH.

Goal is just 7-10lbs of VERY lean mass over the course of 6 months, while training for powerlifintg. I just enjoy looking like bodybuilder. so i like non arromamtising compounds train like a powerlifter and do extra volume on accessory work.

mightymouse84
05-02-2019, 01:27 PM
On week 3 right now, no change in diet until earlier this week but midsection is tighter than ever at this many calories, libido is great, muscles are full and pumped, I can't wait to see the finished product. Pip after first few pokes, I feel fine now.

I'm hoping what I have is legit primo too, apparently it is faked alot.

HustleHard
05-07-2019, 05:46 AM
On week 3 right now, no change in diet until earlier this week but midsection is tighter than ever at this many calories, libido is great, muscles are full and pumped, I can't wait to see the finished product. Pip after first few pokes, I feel fine now.

I'm hoping what I have is legit primo too, apparently it is faked alot.

How much are you taking per week?

payton
05-07-2019, 06:51 AM
learnt a lot, thanks bro!

mightymouse84
05-07-2019, 03:25 PM
How much are you taking per week?

I'm running 500mg per week, stacking with 60 mg var (just increased from 50, 50 mg proviron, and 300 mg test Cyp. I started with Cyp at 400 but bloating was rediculous so I lowered to 350, then to 300. I started the blast in March and didn't add var/proviron until About 4 weeks in.

HustleHard
05-14-2019, 12:49 AM
I'm running 500mg per week, stacking with 60 mg var (just increased from 50, 50 mg proviron, and 300 mg test Cyp. I started with Cyp at 400 but bloating was rediculous so I lowered to 350, then to 300. I started the blast in March and didn't add var/proviron until About 4 weeks in.

I’m going to start a thread about a cycle I’m planning out gear should be to me sometime next week. Come check it out if you don’t mind, your input would be appreciated.

mightymouse84
05-14-2019, 02:31 PM
I’m going to start a thread about a cycle I’m planning out gear should be to me sometime next week. Come check it out if you don’t mind, your input would be appreciated.

For sure man, let me know when you and I will take a look.

HustleHard
05-15-2019, 04:30 PM
For sure man, let me know when you and I will take a look.

Primo Tren and more Cycle help
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Bozz77
01-06-2020, 06:51 AM
In anyone’s opinion who’s used both, is primobolan really like a mild tren or is that simply a stretch of the Imagination?


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Drillit
01-06-2020, 09:03 AM
In anyone’s opinion who’s used both, is primobolan really like a mild tren or is that simply a stretch of the Imagination?


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It’s effects can be similar but take longer, higher dosages and diet needs to be on point. I run it alongside tren.

kaarona1
01-06-2020, 09:27 AM
Alone with much inject primo ace experience? Thinking about adding for the last half of 8 week cycle when I drop the sdrol. Would there be any benefit to adding ace for 4 weeks? Or not long enough?

Drillit
01-06-2020, 12:42 PM
Alone with much inject primo ace experience? Thinking about adding for the last half of 8 week cycle when I drop the sdrol. Would there be any benefit to adding ace for 4 weeks? Or not long enough?

If your running E and ace the ace will give you a little while the E is kicking in. I ran ace at 500 and e at 1000 together.

Oldman85
01-23-2020, 01:54 AM
Someday Primo, someday. But for now, “the rent is too damn high”.

Ivery
01-26-2020, 06:23 PM
I've been having sleep problems while using primo. Restless nights and weird dreams! Could also be my prozac and buspirone

joko123
01-26-2020, 10:43 PM
In anyone’s opinion who’s used both, is primobolan really like a mild tren or is that simply a stretch of the Imagination?


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I’ve used both and I really don’t think there’s an single compound( 2 or more ye’s ) that can be compared to tren


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Mikeyz206
01-26-2020, 11:44 PM
Nice thread and post. Thank you!

Pcushion
01-28-2020, 03:59 PM
I’ve used both and I really don’t think there’s an single compound( 2 or more ye’s ) that can be compared to tren


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I agree no single steroid is comparable to tren. The flip side nothing will keep you as full during prep as Primo. Tren,mast,primo= showtime

Jaggs91
06-01-2020, 04:36 AM
Primo is the shit!

Caustic Charm
08-31-2020, 12:40 AM
Primo is the shit!

800 mg a week, run it with test. You will pack on the fucking muscle with no side effects.


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rocknroll
04-06-2024, 12:09 PM
1) And how long of a cycle for primo?
2) Anyone ever stack Primo with EQ?