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FREEKSHOW
11-26-2011, 03:22 AM
Pharmaceutical Name: Testosterone (as Propionate)
Chemical structure: 4-androstene-3-one,17beta-ol
Effective dose: 50-100 mg every two days
This is an esterified form of the base steroid steroid testosterone, much like enanthate, cypionate and sustanon 250. It's a superlipophillic, oil-based injectable that slows the release of the steroid into the blood stream. But compared to enanthate and cypionate, propionate is a very short ester and is still released quite fast. As such more frequent injections are needed. Levels will peak after 24-36 hours and begin tapering from there on out, making the longest possible time-span between injections, at least or proper results, about 3 days. Most athletes will opt to inject 50-100 mg every day to every other day.


It's not the most user-friendly steroid of them all. Frequent injections can be painful to begin with, to a point where users will begin scouting for different locations to stick the needle, in order to not aggravate the same spots all the time. To make matters worse, its not that pleasant to inject either. The injection-site can become irritated and swell, and sometimes give incredible itches or soreness when touched. All these factors combined, you can see that this is the best form of testosterone to start off on for most beginners. And still. As discussed with enanthate and cypionate, a long-acting ester requires some skill with ancillary drugs and familiarity with post-cycle protocol since simple discontinuation will not put a halt to all problems. In that aspect, for those who do not master ancillaries and post-cycle therapy, propionate is perhaps a better product to start off with. Levels of androgens and estrogens will drop within 2-4 days of discontinuation, effectively halting or reducing any occurring side-effects. Nonetheless, this is a testosterone with a high risk of side-effects (the characteristics of testosterone do not change despite the ester, which is just a carrier) so the use of Nolvadex/proviron/Arimidex and so forth is highly advised if you plan to see a cycle through.

What is of note with propionate, is that users have successfully incorporated it into cutting cycles as well. Especially people who tend to lose a lot of mass normally during extreme diet phases find this useful. By injecting every two or three days and using only 50-75 mg each time, no notable water builds up (or at least none that can't be fixed with proviron, arimidex or winstrol) and no fat is deposited, thus allowing a user to stay relatively lean. So this type of testosterone can be used to keep gaining or retaining mass until 2-3 weeks out of contest time with relatively little difficulty. Although most will choose to add Proviron (50-100 mg/day) out of precaution. Its best use is of course still in bulking phases to pack on mass. Testosterone is not the king of the hill of all mass-builders for nothing.

On the American black market propionate is not an extremely available item, its most popular in Europe, where its use is more wide-spread than that of the long-acting esters. Its nonetheless a desired item almost anywhere in the world because it's a very controllable form of what is no doubt the most powerful steroid ever. The cost is quite high too, easily running 2 to 3 times more for a weekly dose than enanthate, cypionate or sustanon 250.

As a short-lived oil based injectable, most will want to opt for doses of 50-100 mg every day to every other day. Those of a lighter stature seeking to use it for cutting purposes may want to make that every 2nd or 3rd day, or add proviron as a precaution instead, 50-100 mg/day sufficing in most cases. The site of injection is best rotated each time, or problem can occur. The compound is irritative and the damage to the skin and underlying tissue can cause some cosmetic problems if it becomes repetitive. Subcutaneously , balls of fat or tissue can build up. In most cases these need to surgically removed. So rotating is wise.

For bulking purposes one is best to stack testosterone with a base compound such as Deca-durabolin (nandrolone) or Equipoise (boldenone), and can addition Dianabol (methandrostenolone) or Anadrol (oxymetholone) for 5-6 weeks, at the beginning, to kickstart the gains a bit. Most will choose for a more user-friendly, longer-acting testosterone for bulking purposes however. For cutting, the best and primary addition is that of Proviron, which will reduce if not stop estrogen build-up, increase muscle hardness and strength and allow for a higher free testosterone level. But naturally other compounds lend themselves quite well too. Base compounds such as Equipoise or Primobolan (methenolone) making a good match for longer stacks, and towards contest time steroids such as Anavar (oxandrolone), finaplix (Trenbolone) or Winstrol (Stanazolol) make the best matches, as they too will help increase muscle hardness and decrease body-fat, while maintaining lean muscle mass. With testosterone, most any combination is possible. Because testosterone is always the stronger compound in a stack. In terms of ancillaries, the use of anti-estrogens is advised. For cutting puposes one will want to run Proviron alongside the testosterone for the length of the stack, which will rarely make the use of other anti-estrogens a necessity. If no Proviron or arimidex is used, you may want to keep some Nolvadex handy. Should problems arise starting on 20-40 mg of Nolvadex until a while after problems subside should be sufficient for all intents and purposes. Testosterone, being a heavily aromatizing compound, is also quite suppressive of natural testosterone (most so, safe for nandrolone) so a post-cycle therapy with Nolva/Clomid and HCG is necessary. Usually one will start HCG the last week or two weeks of a stack and run it about 4 weeks. HCG shots of 1500-3000 IU given every 5th or 6th day. That means during the end of a cycle, one shot of HCG is given per two shots of testosterone. A user should also opt to wait on using clomid or Nolvadex until the androgen is cleared. For longer esters that was 1.5 to 2 weeks, obviously that time-frame should be reduced to 1 week or even half a week for propionate. One will then start on either 40-50 mg of Nolvadex or 150 mg of Clomid per day for a period of two weeks, and then follow it up with 20-25 mg of Nolvadex or 100 mg of Clomid per day for another two weeks. Post-cycle therapy will facilitate the return of natural testosterone and make it more likely for the user to retain most of the mass he gained while on the cycle.

urajokemc
05-14-2014, 07:49 PM
Of all the Test out there propionate is by far my favorite....especially for cutting up. My first cycle was Var, and prop with awsome results. The prop was super clean. No problems with using the same injection site area. I used BD prop (from back in the day) and also Body Research. Loved em both. Id do 75 mgs EOD, along with the name brand pharmaceutical Oxandin (very expensive) but totally worth it. No water retention (well thats a problem I never had with anything) no sides, just great gains. Im just not a huge fan of sit king myself EOD, so I use Watson test cypoinate now. Quite a bit more sides with cypoinate, but with a good anti e, a d some finistrad im g2g

tm1271
10-14-2014, 01:49 AM
Test prop should be used to front load every time you start a new cycle. Gets in fast and gets everything going.

Clark Kent
10-14-2014, 02:27 AM
Prop is the cock and the balls!

Hatefactory
10-14-2014, 12:11 PM
I'm a converted prop man. I used to be all about the long esters but good prop is just so clean and effective. I also get WAY less sides from prop

studmuffin
11-17-2014, 05:40 PM
Great idea to front load test p at the beginning of a cycle.

chrisotpherm
11-17-2014, 06:46 PM
Great idea to front load test p at the beginning of a cycle.
Agreed. I've used prop while waiting for my long esters to become functional in my body.

lipid
06-17-2015, 08:11 PM
love test prop, feel it within the first week.

slaughter15
06-19-2015, 03:07 AM
I always do prop as well

Mountain-Man
06-28-2015, 10:04 PM
Prop or tne for me

roomy
12-18-2015, 01:59 PM
might use this for my first cycle, kinda worried about the corks though

Shortwhitesprinter
12-19-2015, 05:50 PM
I agree gentelmen...Prop, mast, tren, TNE...cruise on test every 6-8 weeks for 2-3 weeks...IM 273# Long esters take my BW as high as 290#...so the PROP and small cruise of test E keeps me feeling tighter and leaner...SO being 44yo, Longer esters, water retention, and Bpressure, I dont get the sides with prop...LOVE it...plus its smooth, inject into Biceps, chest... delts, shit even traps once or twice...

cominback22
12-19-2015, 06:32 PM
Thinking about going this route SWS. Currently off all AAS(trying to make a baby)and soon after will most likely start TRT. Last bloods showed my test at 210.....

Shortwhitesprinter
12-19-2015, 06:59 PM
Thinking about going this route SWS. Currently off all AAS(trying to make a baby)and soon after will most likely start TRT. Last bloods showed my test at 210.....
Hey Cominback-
Bro I was tested about 3 years ago at 41 at 322. I used AAS 3-4 cycles prior, but stopped and took my fitness into another area, did POST CYCLE T. Then no more PL, OLy lifting periodically, just Bodybuilding and started a business...so I thought it was fatigue, long hours...started another Business, yet felt like shit...tired allllllll the time and no sex drive.
Went to Doc got tested and walla! LOW T. SO now I, administer my own Rx, I was granted a scrip for TEST C and used it, made me bloated and felt like shit...So now I run the short esters and I feel great. I dont mind the frequent injects...I rotate biceps, chest, delts...then glutes...

Cruise on TEST E when I need a pump, front load with Prop and I feel better...the only thing is in the beginning it was tough finding a baseline to hover around 550-650, I was high as 800, too high...with the long esters-blood pressure was up, so I drop down and use short esters...If I need to lower dose I do and the sides subside immmediatly...
So my weekly cocktail is aporox: tren e 150-200, test prop 250-300 on light cycles which is now...march ill bring it up to about: 125/tren...250-300/prop then mix in some mast:)

Great to hear on the family building:) Hopefully next Xmas youlll have an addition!

cominback22
12-19-2015, 07:09 PM
Yeah I'm pretty much always drained. I got a pretty laid back doc and we have an action plan of sorts. This is my first time ever trying for a kid so we're are holding off on the hormones as of now. If we have trouble we have some outline as to what we are going to do. Glad I got cool doc.

Good news was all my other endocrine test came back good. I'm pretty young to have that low.of test. My PCP has a few ideas as to why so many young men have low t. All of my previous cycles I did great after pct, so Im not sure how long it was low. All I know is test makes me feel great when I'm on.

Shortwhitesprinter
12-19-2015, 07:26 PM
Yeah I'm pretty much always drained. I got a pretty laid back doc and we have an action plan of sorts. This is my first time ever trying for a kid so we're are holding off on the hormones as of now. If we have trouble we have some outline as to what we are going to do. Glad I got cool doc.

Good news was all my other endocrine test came back good. I'm pretty young to have that low.of test. My PCP has a few ideas as to why so many young men have low t. All of my previous cycles I did great after pct, so Im not sure how long it was low. All I know is test makes me feel great when I'm on.
Good to hear...Cool Docs go a long way...I refer all my homies to mine...lol
YEah LOw T is more common now its weird...or more men are getting checked vs. living with it and dying a slow death...LOW T=Increased rate of mortality...

meatneck71
11-20-2018, 04:43 AM
good read! Love prop myself.. Whenever I have issues with dealing with sides from long esters, esp. cyp, prop always straightens things out..(if you know what I mean)