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FREEKSHOW
11-26-2011, 04:21 PM
Pharmaceutical Name: trenbolone (as acetate)
Chemical structure: 17-beta-hydroxyestra-4, 9-11-trien-3-one
Effective dose: 40-70 mg every 2-3 days either transdermally, nasally or by injection

According to many an opinion this drug delivers the best gains, qualitatively speaking, for money. You notice two names on top of this profile, but unfortunately finaject hasn't been made in quite a while now. Since 1987. This is quite a shame. Both Finaplix and finaject are veterinary steroids and were readily and easily available for democratic prices. Finaject was an injectable and provided you could find a sterile source it was quite convenient. Now only finaplix remains as the original source of trenbolone acetate. The Ttokkyo brand trenbol75 surfaces from time to time as well, but its derived from the same material, though qualitatively not as pure. The problem with finaplix as opposed to finaject is that it comes in veterinary implant pellets, and trust me, you don't want to get one of these babies shot in your butt. So it needs to be converted to either a transdermal (often using DMSO) or an injectable. There are kits to achieve both. Trenbolone nasal sprays are gaining popularity as well.


Trenbolone acetate is rather short-acting but well liked because of its great availability and price. The alternative is the limited availability of Parabolan, a longer-acting trenbolone ester made for human use. Unfortunately certain lots only surface from time to time and they never sell cheap. They do act quite a bit longer. Parabolan (trenbolone as hexahydrobencylcarbonate) has the half-life of an enanthate meaning it requires less frequent injections. One of the major problems with finaplix however is that beginners making sterile injectable compounds isn't a wishful thing, and often leads to abscesses and infections.

The fun with Fina is that it causes small, well-maintainable and quality gains. Naturally it won't give you the sort of mass that testosterone or methandrostenolone would give, but it makes up for it by adding only quality mass (no estrogen formation, so no fat and water retention) which is quite easy to keep on your frame. In contradiction to many aromatizing steroids such as testosterone where a large portion of the gained mass is quickly lost again after discontinuation of the product.

It's also a very versatile product that can be used in a lot of different ways. One could easily stack it with testosterone, anadrol or dianabol for mass gains where the actions of trenbolone cause severe strength gains and add some quality to the mass. Since trenbolone was found to be roughly 3 to 4 times as anabolic as most testosterone esters it quite easily boosts strength over short periods of time. It acts well on the androgen receptor with as a result that it can have certain side-effects. Most notably the normal androgenic side-effects such as increased acne and a risk for prostate hypertrophy, definitely increased aggression leading to roid rage in prolonged use of high doses and in some cases an aggravation of an existing hair loss problem.

On the other hand trenbolone just as easily combines with stanozolol or methenolone for purposes of reducing body-fat. Bill Roberts recently claimed that trenbolone doesn't reduce body-fat and that nothing in the literature proves it does. But I beg to differ. Either Mr.Roberts isn't too bright or he doesn't know how to perform a medline search, since after a mere minute of searching I found a study1 that clearly documented the fat-loss aspects of trenbolone acetate. It clearly concluded (even said so in the abstract) that trenbolone does indeed reduce body-fat (as androgens do, we discuss this in our profile of Masteron), but only when not competing with circulating estrogen. This means as a fat-loss agonist, trenbolone is best used late in a cycle and only combined with non-aromatizing steroids since it competes with circulating estradiol. Body-fat percentage when cutting would drop regardless, simply because of the qualitative lean mass gain made while no extra body-fat is deposited.

And finally in doses of 50-100 mg daily, trenbolone acetate can be used just fine by itself and quite favorably. In fact for people starting out, not too concerned with the side-effects and looking solely for a quality increase in lean muscle, small doses of fina (50mg/day injectable) would be very suitable.

The mechanism by which trenbolone mediates skeletal muscle hypertrophy is diversified and not very well understood. On the one hand trenbolone is a very active agonist of the androgen receptor, as illustrated by its increasing strength and aggression at the level it does. While this is a large contributor there is evidence that it mediates muscle growth by another pathway entirely2,3, namely the increasing of satellite cell sensitivity to an increase in IGF-1 (Insulin-Like growth factor 1) and FGF (Fibroblast growth factor). This would result in a much, much greater nutrient uptake and protein synthesis and explain why trenbolone is so much more potent in building lean muscle than other non-aromatizing, AR-mediated steroids like drostanolone and mesterolone.

In fact, in veterinary cycles the androgenic hypertrophy is regarded as the strongest of any steroid, which is why instead of using aromatizing compounds to enhance mass in cattle, they now inject them with products like Revalor-S, which contains trenbolone and estradiol, to make up for the lack of estrogenic mass accrual.

The points one may wish to consider during use of Fina is the low sterility of some home-brewed concoctions along with the already relatively painful injections (high alcohol content). This can lead to multiple problems when it is injected daily. Lumps due to plentiful same-site injections, abscesses and infections caused by faulty filtering and so on. Trenbolone is not particularly toxic though. Liver values are barely elevated while using it. Though there is no evidence or explanation to support this, some users reported a certain kidney-toxicity. Blood in urine and all that. While this was no doubt the result of a fake (Finaject used to be an often faked steroid shortly after its discontinuation) but I figured I'd mention it. Other than that mild androgenic effects such as acne and an increase in hair loss are noted as well.

Trenbolone is relatively safe steroid all in all. There is some concern about kidney toxicity, but usually exaggerated. The beauty of trenbolone is that its one steroid that has it all : Its highly effective in its own, provides all lean gains which are fairly easy to maintain and isn't very prone to cause side-effects. Finaplix particularly provides you with a cheap source of trenbolone as well. The problem is making the cartridges into a sterile injectable or transdermal.

To get the maximum it is recommended that you inject the stuff of course, but that's slightly more complex as you need to get rid of a lot of the crap they put in these cartridges. You will need sterile oil, solvent (lipophillic), 1 empty sterile container, A syringe filter, two syringes and 2 18gauge needles. Start by putting your pellets in your solvent, and let it sit. You want the pellets to become completely undone and dissolved in your fluid. This is imperative. Shake it up real good and then let it sit for 12-48 hours to let all the crap sink to the bottom. Now take one of your syringes and start transferring the fluid into the sterile oil. You can decant as well, but you really don't want any of the crud on the bottom to make it into this solution, so using the syringe and doing it slowly is the best way. Now take your empty sterile container and use a new syringe to transfer the oil. Attach a syringe filter between syringe and needle and slowly put the oil into your container, slowly filtering it. For everytime you repeat this step you need uncouple the filter/needle from the syringe, or else dirt will gather at the wrong side of the filter and get into your solution. In fact, if your container is a vial its advised that you leave the needle in the vial with the filter on it and you just use the syringe to refill and filter. This solution is now fit to be injected. Its still advised to hold the syringe with the trenbolone under some hot streaming water before injecting first though.

Nasal sprays and sublingual forms are also popular, and while they too have some minor success, they are the worst way to go. It's a steroid, and with the added ester its even more lipophillic. Since the mucous membranes in the mouth and nose only let hydrophilic substances through, the rate of absorption is extremely limited. Usually to achieve this cyclodextrins are used, sugars that are lipophillic on the inside and can hold a steroid inside, but are hydrophilic on the outside, making the whole absorbable through these channels. But since fina does not have this and most of us do not possess the skills to make cyclodextrin complexes in our own kitchens, this is not a path one should consider. There is little or no need to stack secondary drugs with fina. It does not aromatize. There is some concern as to fina being progestagenic, so you should you opt to stack it with an aromatizable compound it may worsen potential gynocomastia so adding winstrol or Nolvadex, or even both to such a stack may be wise. But in itself or in a non-aromatizing stack this is not necessary. The use for post-cycle estrogen antagonists is limited as well, so Nolva or clomid to boost natural test will have little use. It is a very strong androgen receptor agonist however, so perhaps using some HCG after a cycle may help you retain more gains and prevent testicular shrinkage, but since HCG does increase estrogen that does reinstate the use of Nolvadex or clomid as well.

bigdude
07-07-2013, 06:22 PM
How many weeks can someone run this compound?

ShortnWide
07-09-2013, 01:21 AM
Depends on a few things.
What dose will you be running?
Are you running it for cutting or bulking?

bigdude
07-09-2013, 02:37 AM
Depends on a few things.
What dose will you be running?
Are you running it for cutting or bulking?

I guess both....
I'm trying to figure out how long is too long

Gopro
07-10-2013, 08:46 AM
interesting read. Sorry, can't help ya here.

Patriot1405
07-10-2013, 09:41 AM
Nice read Freak!!

Patriot1405
07-10-2013, 09:44 AM
Tren A is usually run from 8 to 12 weeks depending on cycle history.

bigdude
07-10-2013, 11:34 AM
Tren A is usually run from 8 to 12 weeks depending on cycle history.

I have yet to try tren.... but I blow up with test, dbol, and deca so if it lives up to its rep I'm gonna explode.....my only reservation is its effect on cardio......
Has anyone used with out there cardio being effected? That can't be good for the ticker

TheTrain
07-10-2013, 12:12 PM
I can't do cardio on it as my calf and lower back pumps get so extreme I have no movement. I'm already not flexible at all. Ha I now run 6 months at a time on rotating. I've run 20 weeks with nothing different than you'd get from test alone.


cholesterol gets a little high, but all my values(kidney liver) all are good.

bigdude
07-10-2013, 12:36 PM
Part of the reason I want to run this is to lose fat and from what I read tren is cannibalistic when it comes to fat. Ijust don't wanna be in the pool or on the treadmill and fall over dead...lol

ShortnWide
07-11-2013, 03:02 AM
I guess both....
I'm trying to figure out how long is too long


Idk what your goals are but some run it for 6-8 week blasts, some for 10-12 weeks. Your diet and additional compounds are what helps dictate if your going to lean out or gain up.
I know a few guys that run it in high doses then when they cruise still keep tren-A in but at around 25-50mg EOD. (I def wouldn't do this)

Ofcourse the smartest way is to get blood work and see where your values are and go from there. If all is ok......the balls in your court.
If someone doesn't care about health.....run it till your liver shuts down.

IMO:
Tren-A is a strong ass compound that is not for everyone.
If your in a sport that basically requires it for whatever reason then YES run it how you will.
If your doing it to look good for girls, to beat that guy at the gyms bench press weight or anyone in general....maybe the higher doses and more frequent usage isn't the best decision.

www.37
07-11-2013, 03:33 AM
I like tren A @ 75-100 ED along with Test E @ 300mg EW maybe throw some mast in. For 12 weeks. Caber and aromasin as well.

TheTrain
07-31-2013, 10:08 AM
I thought it was hard on kidneys supposedly? Not hepatoxic( liver)?? All my values are good, only time liver got bad was because I was taking Tylenol everyday for months in pain pills and it still was ok.

tylenol is actually just as if not more liver toxic than basically all oral aas. Guys don't realize this... I'm not sure about if you ran 500mg of anadrol a day of course;)

jdb3
07-31-2013, 12:46 PM
tylenol can be...depends on dose and fequency, otherwise it is very safe

Tattz
07-31-2013, 01:05 PM
.5 ED for me with Tren A. I see more results then if I do 100mg EOD

Buckshot713
03-02-2014, 05:30 AM
PostGreat Post

studmuffin
05-14-2014, 01:19 AM
Good post,I have some tren but will not use it for a while.

junkyarddips
05-14-2014, 06:39 PM
Accurate profile!

Mhuddleston
11-18-2015, 09:50 AM
If people are Reporting they cant even do cardio, have Hard time walking up the steps, walking for a couple Hundred Yards ETC.(All Tasks that SENIOR CITIZENS and my 80y/o Grandma can Do) off of this Trenbolone HOW in the Hell could one Go in the Gym and Pump Hundreds and Hundreds Pounds Of Iron for Hours eeach Week? I dont see How it can be that bad where people are saying they Cant get on a Treadmill for 5mins but Can Lift Tonage of weight. Calf Pumps "are too bad to walk" etc. But can Lift. Reps and reps and sets of sets working ALL of your Other Muscles including your calves... I HONESTLY think Some people are exaggerating This.. They gained 20lbs of mass in 10weeks but couldnt walk cuz the "pumps" were Sooo bad.. C'mon.. The Effects of Tren on the cardiovascular system YES, I believe.. But C'mon to the guys that are saying or Trying to say their Tren is Killer and Cant walk get Winded from walking to grab the Morning paper then the next sentence saying they had a massive 2hour Long workout and the pumps were insane and after 10weeks put on all the mass, but couldnt get out of bed without beibg winded..

Cobra Strike
11-19-2015, 01:51 PM
If people are Reporting they cant even do cardio, have Hard time walking up the steps, walking for a couple Hundred Yards ETC.(All Tasks that SENIOR CITIZENS and my 80y/o Grandma can Do) off of this Trenbolone HOW in the Hell could one Go in the Gym and Pump Hundreds and Hundreds Pounds Of Iron for Hours eeach Week? I dont see How it can be that bad where people are saying they Cant get on a Treadmill for 5mins but Can Lift Tonage of weight. Calf Pumps "are too bad to walk" etc. But can Lift. Reps and reps and sets of sets working ALL of your Other Muscles including your calves... I HONESTLY think Some people are exaggerating This.. They gained 20lbs of mass in 10weeks but couldnt walk cuz the "pumps" were Sooo bad.. C'mon.. The Effects of Tren on the cardiovascular system YES, I believe.. But C'mon to the guys that are saying or Trying to say their Tren is Killer and Cant walk get Winded from walking to grab the Morning paper then the next sentence saying they had a massive 2hour Long workout and the pumps were insane and after 10weeks put on all the mass, but couldnt get out of bed without beibg winded..

Lmao love the rant brother!!!

Tren does make my cardio worse...i can still do it but im huffin and puffin. Atleast during my work outs i can catch my breath before hanmering the next set.

Bullseye Forever
11-21-2015, 03:30 AM
Lmao love the rant brother!!!

Tren does make my cardio worse...i can still do it but im huffin and puffin. Atleast during my work outs i can catch my breath before hanmering the next set.dude wish I could try the stuff lol

maikolo33
11-21-2015, 04:44 AM
.5 ED for me with Tren A. I see more results then if I do 100mg EOD
Im currently doing this as well. Just waiting for that tren train to hit hopefully will be soon im 6 days in

panda72
06-28-2016, 03:26 AM
At what doses does aggression become a factor. Tren sounds like the perfect drug, but I'm not trying to catch a charge lol

SC
06-28-2016, 03:36 AM
At what doses does aggression become a factor. Tren sounds like the perfect drug, but I'm not trying to catch a charge lol

It seems everyone responds differently to the stuff. I'm currently on my first run and capped it at 400mg/week. I'm experiencing very little sides besides the occasional trensomnia. Very happy with the results too.

Being wary of the sides, like you, I chose to run ace at a low dose and slowly work my way up. When I was at 60mg ace/day I did notice that my aggression was up a tad, but only when driving. At home I would get annoyed by stupid things, but not enough to where I was being an asshole to my spouse. I swapped over to Enanthate at 400/week (I've used two different sponsors at the same dose for Tren E now) and that aggression and irritability has vanished.

Oh, and for informations sake I'm running 600/wk Sust and 50mg/day Proviron. A lot of the experienced Tren guys all seem to agree that Proviron really helps cool the Tren sides.

panda72
06-28-2016, 03:36 PM
It seems everyone responds differently to the stuff. I'm currently on my first run and capped it at 400mg/week. I'm experiencing very little sides besides the occasional trensomnia. Very happy with the results too.

Being wary of the sides, like you, I chose to run ace at a low dose and slowly work my way up. When I was at 60mg ace/day I did notice that my aggression was up a tad, but only when driving. At home I would get annoyed by stupid things, but not enough to where I was being an asshole to my spouse. I swapped over to Enanthate at 400/week (I've used two different sponsors at the same dose for Tren E now) and that aggression and irritability has vanished.

Oh, and for informations sake I'm running 600/wk Sust and 50mg/day Proviron. A lot of the experienced Tren guys all seem to agree that Proviron really helps cool the Tren sides.


I wonder if it is because the acetate dumps the hormone so quickly that is causes a huge spike. Thanks for the info, clever.

SC
06-28-2016, 03:39 PM
I wonder if it is because the acetate dumps the hormone so quickly that is causes a huge spike. Thanks for the info, clever.

One thing that is commonly mentioned is that due to the different esters, you're getting a different amount of hormone with the same dose. So with ace you're getting a little more Tren than with E. At least that's my understanding. There are guys here that can explain it much better than me.

Amber Jones
08-08-2016, 05:47 AM
tren is too strong cannot use it in your frst cycle

Tbrotherx
08-14-2016, 11:24 PM
How low can you run tren while still making gains, but keeping sides at a min

SC
08-14-2016, 11:47 PM
How low can you run tren while still making gains, but keeping sides at a min

General consensus seems to be that everyone is different. I'm at 400mg/wk Tren E and have very little sides. Occasional trensomnia, but that's it besides cardio possibly being a bit harder to get through and my appetite falling off a bit.

When I first made the decision to start Tren, I used ACE so when the sides became apparent I could back it off quickly and not be stuck with them for a couple weeks. Started at 30 mg/day and increased 10mg after 1.5-2 weeks to try to find a happy balance. At 490/week of ACE (administered 70 everyday) I started soaking the sheets with night sweats, bad insomnia every night, and I was definitely more irritable. Amazing the difference 90mg makes. (Ran three different sources so far)

Anyway, my happy limit seems to be 400E/wk. Seeing great gains and I'm not hating life.

Tbrotherx
08-15-2016, 01:22 AM
General consensus seems to be that everyone is different. I'm at 400mg/wk Tren E and have very little sides. Occasional trensomnia, but that's it besides cardio possibly being a bit harder to get through and my appetite falling off a bit.

When I first made the decision to start Tren, I used ACE so when the sides became apparent I could back it off quickly and not be stuck with them for a couple weeks. Started at 30 mg/day and increased 10mg after 1.5-2 weeks to try to find a happy balance. At 490/week of ACE (administered 70 everyday) I started soaking the sheets with night sweats, bad insomnia every night, and I was definitely more irritable. Amazing the difference 90mg makes. (Ran three different sources so far)

Anyway, my happy limit seems to be 400E/wk. Seeing great gains and I'm not hating life.

Thanks bro, this was very informative.

Id definitely start with either ace and I was thinking about going 20 - 30 mg ed. I'm naturally already an insomniac, but I fear the possibility of anxiety.
Weird how some say tren kills their appetite while I heard that it makes some go very hypoglycemic.

What do you prefer more ace or enth?

Rachel Whiseley
08-15-2016, 09:29 AM
have u run with N2guard?

Tbrotherx
08-15-2016, 04:24 PM
have u run with N2guard?

Don't waste your money lol

SC
08-15-2016, 10:02 PM
Thanks bro, this was very informative.

Id definitely start with either ace and I was thinking about going 20 - 30 mg ed. I'm naturally already an insomniac, but I fear the possibility of anxiety.
Weird how some say tren kills their appetite while I heard that it makes some go very hypoglycemic.

What do you prefer more ace or enth?

I like Enanthate as I don't need to pin everyday. Just used the ace at the beginning to figure out my preferred dose since it is my first run. Got that figured out then swapped over to the easy equivalent of E, which happened to be 400/wk.

If I were to do it again, I would say rather than trying to taper down the ace as the Enanthate slowly releases, just stop the ace after injecting the E and be patient. I was a bit of an asshole during the overlap and the night sweats/insomnia were brutal.

Bulking4775
01-15-2017, 08:05 PM
Pharmaceutical Name: trenbolone (as acetate)
Chemical structure: 17-beta-hydroxyestra-4, 9-11-trien-3-one
Effective dose: 40-70 mg every 2-3 days either transdermally, nasally or by injection

According to many an opinion this drug delivers the best gains, qualitatively speaking, for money. You notice two names on top of this profile, but unfortunately finaject hasn't been made in quite a while now. Since 1987. This is quite a shame. Both Finaplix and finaject are veterinary steroids and were readily and easily available for democratic prices. Finaject was an injectable and provided you could find a sterile source it was quite convenient. Now only finaplix remains as the original source of trenbolone acetate. The Ttokkyo brand trenbol75 surfaces from time to time as well, but its derived from the same material, though qualitatively not as pure. The problem with finaplix as opposed to finaject is that it comes in veterinary implant pellets, and trust me, you don't want to get one of these babies shot in your butt. So it needs to be converted to either a transdermal (often using DMSO) or an injectable. There are kits to achieve both. Trenbolone nasal sprays are gaining popularity as well.


Trenbolone acetate is rather short-acting but well liked because of its great availability and price. The alternative is the limited availability of Parabolan, a longer-acting trenbolone ester made for human use. Unfortunately certain lots only surface from time to time and they never sell cheap. They do act quite a bit longer. Parabolan (trenbolone as hexahydrobencylcarbonate) has the half-life of an enanthate meaning it requires less frequent injections. One of the major problems with finaplix however is that beginners making sterile injectable compounds isn't a wishful thing, and often leads to abscesses and infections.

The fun with Fina is that it causes small, well-maintainable and quality gains. Naturally it won't give you the sort of mass that testosterone or methandrostenolone would give, but it makes up for it by adding only quality mass (no estrogen formation, so no fat and water retention) which is quite easy to keep on your frame. In contradiction to many aromatizing steroids such as testosterone where a large portion of the gained mass is quickly lost again after discontinuation of the product.

It's also a very versatile product that can be used in a lot of different ways. One could easily stack it with testosterone, anadrol or dianabol for mass gains where the actions of trenbolone cause severe strength gains and add some quality to the mass. Since trenbolone was found to be roughly 3 to 4 times as anabolic as most testosterone esters it quite easily boosts strength over short periods of time. It acts well on the androgen receptor with as a result that it can have certain side-effects. Most notably the normal androgenic side-effects such as increased acne and a risk for prostate hypertrophy, definitely increased aggression leading to roid rage in prolonged use of high doses and in some cases an aggravation of an existing hair loss problem.

On the other hand trenbolone just as easily combines with stanozolol or methenolone for purposes of reducing body-fat. Bill Roberts recently claimed that trenbolone doesn't reduce body-fat and that nothing in the literature proves it does. But I beg to differ. Either Mr.Roberts isn't too bright or he doesn't know how to perform a medline search, since after a mere minute of searching I found a study1 that clearly documented the fat-loss aspects of trenbolone acetate. It clearly concluded (even said so in the abstract) that trenbolone does indeed reduce body-fat (as androgens do, we discuss this in our profile of Masteron), but only when not competing with circulating estrogen. This means as a fat-loss agonist, trenbolone is best used late in a cycle and only combined with non-aromatizing steroids since it competes with circulating estradiol. Body-fat percentage when cutting would drop regardless, simply because of the qualitative lean mass gain made while no extra body-fat is deposited.

And finally in doses of 50-100 mg daily, trenbolone acetate can be used just fine by itself and quite favorably. In fact for people starting out, not too concerned with the side-effects and looking solely for a quality increase in lean muscle, small doses of fina (50mg/day injectable) would be very suitable.

The mechanism by which trenbolone mediates skeletal muscle hypertrophy is diversified and not very well understood. On the one hand trenbolone is a very active agonist of the androgen receptor, as illustrated by its increasing strength and aggression at the level it does. While this is a large contributor there is evidence that it mediates muscle growth by another pathway entirely2,3, namely the increasing of satellite cell sensitivity to an increase in IGF-1 (Insulin-Like growth factor 1) and FGF (Fibroblast growth factor). This would result in a much, much greater nutrient uptake and protein synthesis and explain why trenbolone is so much more potent in building lean muscle than other non-aromatizing, AR-mediated steroids like drostanolone and mesterolone.

In fact, in veterinary cycles the androgenic hypertrophy is regarded as the strongest of any steroid, which is why instead of using aromatizing compounds to enhance mass in cattle, they now inject them with products like Revalor-S, which contains trenbolone and estradiol, to make up for the lack of estrogenic mass accrual.

The points one may wish to consider during use of Fina is the low sterility of some home-brewed concoctions along with the already relatively painful injections (high alcohol content). This can lead to multiple problems when it is injected daily. Lumps due to plentiful same-site injections, abscesses and infections caused by faulty filtering and so on. Trenbolone is not particularly toxic though. Liver values are barely elevated while using it. Though there is no evidence or explanation to support this, some users reported a certain kidney-toxicity. Blood in urine and all that. While this was no doubt the result of a fake (Finaject used to be an often faked steroid shortly after its discontinuation) but I figured I'd mention it. Other than that mild androgenic effects such as acne and an increase in hair loss are noted as well.

Trenbolone is relatively safe steroid all in all. There is some concern about kidney toxicity, but usually exaggerated. The beauty of trenbolone is that its one steroid that has it all : Its highly effective in its own, provides all lean gains which are fairly easy to maintain and isn't very prone to cause side-effects. Finaplix particularly provides you with a cheap source of trenbolone as well. The problem is making the cartridges into a sterile injectable or transdermal.

To get the maximum it is recommended that you inject the stuff of course, but that's slightly more complex as you need to get rid of a lot of the crap they put in these cartridges. You will need sterile oil, solvent (lipophillic), 1 empty sterile container, A syringe filter, two syringes and 2 18gauge needles. Start by putting your pellets in your solvent, and let it sit. You want the pellets to become completely undone and dissolved in your fluid. This is imperative. Shake it up real good and then let it sit for 12-48 hours to let all the crap sink to the bottom. Now take one of your syringes and start transferring the fluid into the sterile oil. You can decant as well, but you really don't want any of the crud on the bottom to make it into this solution, so using the syringe and doing it slowly is the best way. Now take your empty sterile container and use a new syringe to transfer the oil. Attach a syringe filter between syringe and needle and slowly put the oil into your container, slowly filtering it. For everytime you repeat this step you need uncouple the filter/needle from the syringe, or else dirt will gather at the wrong side of the filter and get into your solution. In fact, if your container is a vial its advised that you leave the needle in the vial with the filter on it and you just use the syringe to refill and filter. This solution is now fit to be injected. Its still advised to hold the syringe with the trenbolone under some hot streaming water before injecting first though.

Nasal sprays and sublingual forms are also popular, and while they too have some minor success, they are the worst way to go. It's a steroid, and with the added ester its even more lipophillic. Since the mucous membranes in the mouth and nose only let hydrophilic substances through, the rate of absorption is extremely limited. Usually to achieve this cyclodextrins are used, sugars that are lipophillic on the inside and can hold a steroid inside, but are hydrophilic on the outside, making the whole absorbable through these channels. But since fina does not have this and most of us do not possess the skills to make cyclodextrin complexes in our own kitchens, this is not a path one should consider. There is little or no need to stack secondary drugs with fina. It does not aromatize. There is some concern as to fina being progestagenic, so you should you opt to stack it with an aromatizable compound it may worsen potential gynocomastia so adding winstrol or Nolvadex, or even both to such a stack may be wise. But in itself or in a non-aromatizing stack this is not necessary. The use for post-cycle estrogen antagonists is limited as well, so Nolva or clomid to boost natural test will have little use. It is a very strong androgen receptor agonist however, so perhaps using some HCG after a cycle may help you retain more gains and prevent testicular shrinkage, but since HCG does increase estrogen that does reinstate the use of Nolvadex or clomid as well.
shit that is way more complex then just injection eod… so I would have to prepare every dose 48 hours ahead? Pretty much?
I'm not on tren or anything I have thought of using in the future but I just never heard all that about transferring oils I thought all this shit came sterile

Fast Willie from Philly
01-15-2017, 11:24 PM
Thank You FREEKSHOW. There is alot of good info in there. I did a small amount of Parabolin a couple of years ago but that is my only Experiance with this type of compound. Im about to start a cycle of 50mg Tren A, 50 mg of Test P and 50mg of Masteron a day for 8 weeks. I will be taking 60mg a day of T-Bol for my oral. So I thank you for your post. I was going to post a thread about my cycle and ask some questions but my DUMBASS cant figure out how to start a thread. lol

CousinKAP
08-10-2020, 01:09 AM
I wish i came across this post before i ordered. Fortunately, I was concerned with the side effects with Ace and ordered the E. SO far the side effects arent too bad but my legs have been fatigued for no reason.

JBHulk58
08-17-2020, 09:55 PM
I can’t handle Tren A. I’m a maniac. I love running Tren E though. Acetate makes me a raging madman. I do stuff I don’t even know I’m doing until someone tells me. And the wife knows I’m running it almost immediately. I’ve gotten caught every time.

superboy1
08-31-2020, 06:42 PM
I can only run tren between 200-300 anything more I'll say goodbye to my relationship lol

BigswoleMartin
04-20-2021, 09:05 PM
Anyone who has run tren ace at 50 to 100mg Ed how fast did you start to see a difference in your body and what kind of results did you get from running it Ed?

blakeneyadam1988
05-30-2021, 07:24 PM
Anyone like mixing tren and primo?

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blakeneyadam1988
06-07-2021, 04:49 AM
Anyone who has run tren ace at 50 to 100mg Ed how fast did you start to see a difference in your body and what kind of results did you get from running it Ed?I just started tren around a week ago. First day was 30mg second was 40mg and 50 mg the since. The first couple nights I could not sleep good at all. Since then I am sleeping like a baby. My appetite has been fluctuating I normally eat double but there's also a heat wave here so very well could just be do to that. And in the past five days I have gotten abit stronger my reps have went up a few with the same weight. But I have noticed my body fat dropping every morning when I wake up and look in the mirror and my arms and shoulders are popping. But I also was in extremely bad shape and haven't done near enough excersize in a while so I may be gettin faster results because of how bad of shape I was in lol.

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rocknroll
08-06-2022, 06:56 PM
So does one still have to do some weird mixing or whatever Freakshow mentioned in this post or have they refined it now to where you can just inject it like anything else?