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jnxymkb
06-26-2017, 07:12 PM
normally im a reddit lurker, and i know site to site the community opinions different but this site from looking around seems to say the clomid is a must in pct, and hcg while optional is very very highly recommended. i guess my main question is there any scientific research which shows that clomid+nolva does a substainally better job at pct, especially in moderate dosed / moderate length cycles then nolva only. I come mainly from a community who advocates nolva only. Just looking for thoughts here.

thecycle/pct - steroids (https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/pct)

this is basically the FAQ im stating. Thoughts?

just to put it out there, im not trying to challenge anyone or convert anyone, or prove anyone wrong or anything like that, like most people im just trying to gain all the knowledge i can, so i can run as safe as possible. thanks.

bobhead
06-26-2017, 08:21 PM
I've done nolva only PCT.

bigeyed
06-26-2017, 08:24 PM
It's all preference Brother. I've done nolva only PCT and then with clomid and nolva. I personally like both ran together. PCT ran so much smoother and I recovered faster. Try running both and see what you think. Never know until you try.

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enrod
06-27-2017, 01:36 AM
Nolva blocks estrogen binding, while clomid tells your body to begin naturally producing testosterone again. Nolva only pct will only do half the job and make recovery take longer. If you have the ability to recover more thoroughly, why not add clomid?


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PAiN
06-27-2017, 02:04 AM
Nolva blocks estrogen binding, while clomid tells your body to begin naturally producing testosterone again. Nolva only pct will only do half the job and make recovery take longer. If you have the ability to recover more thoroughly, why not add clomid?


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^^^This. Clomid alone would be more beneficial than Nolva alone. Clomid is even prescribed as TRT. Clomid and Nolva together is the only way to go bro. If I only had to pick one it would be Clomid.


You will get those people who say I've been doing it this many years and this is the way and I'm fine. That doesn't mean they are right.

bigdaddy
06-27-2017, 05:20 AM
Physiologically this is absolutely a fact and can't be argued medically..


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Bombarinos
06-27-2017, 07:04 PM
Go w the proven nolva, hcg, hmg cruise w proviron cant go wrong clomed and nolva act the same takes more clomid to equal nolva benefits for pct

Bombarinos
06-27-2017, 07:05 PM
Clomid just dnt agree w me moody as fuck on it but pain is citrect most docs will orescribe clomid for rebound the top my proven prefrence for myself

stephen220
06-30-2017, 07:58 AM
Pain and Enrod are correct clomid is important and will be very beneficial to you during pct.

TheHound
07-12-2017, 04:37 PM
Same here, clomid is a bitch to my mood. Lethargic af too.

One Hairy SOB
07-12-2017, 04:38 PM
Same here, clomid is a bitch to my mood. Lethargic af too.

What is your dosage?

TheHound
07-12-2017, 07:05 PM
Day 1-250 clomid 60 nolva
Next 10 days-100 clomid 40 nolva
Next 10 days-50 clomid 20 nolva

PAiN
07-12-2017, 07:17 PM
Same here, clomid is a bitch to my mood. Lethargic af too.

Take it before bed.

One Hairy SOB
07-12-2017, 07:22 PM
As Pain mentioned, take it before bed. Also lower your dose 50 then 25 and see if that helps.

TheHound
07-12-2017, 08:36 PM
I'll give it a shot

Hornet
07-13-2017, 06:42 PM
I've done nolva only for my first cycle, and I have done nolva and clomid together for my second cycle. Both cycles were test only 500 mg wk. The nolva/clomid pct was far superior than the nolva only pct. Nolva only took me way too long to recover...

Kraken
07-19-2017, 11:41 AM
Reading the comments. So can you just run nolva and clomid without aromasin? Or should I run nolva, clomid, aromasin, and hcg. Thoughts please


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One Hairy SOB
07-19-2017, 02:29 PM
Reading the comments. So can you just run nolva and clomid without aromasin? Or should I run nolva, clomid, aromasin, and hcg. Thoughts please


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Depending on your cycle length and dosage, below is a pretty standard protocol. HCG isn't necessary for all.

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolvad: 40/40/20/20
Aromasin: 12.5 EOD
HCG: 1000ius per week for 4 weeks leading up to PCT. Don't use HCG in PCT.