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FREEKSHOW
12-01-2011, 02:15 AM
Oral Turinabol Profile

(4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone)
[4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one]
Molecular Weight:334.8854
Formula:C20H27O2Cl
Manufacturer: Underground Labs only
Effective Dose (Men): 10-40mgs/day
Effective Dose (Women): 5-15mgs/day
Active life: 16 hours
Detection Time: 6 weeks
Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: >100:>0

Oral Turinabol was first developed by scientists in East Germany for their Olympic and national-level athletes to use. This, plus the eventual removal of it from the market caused OT to become a very "sexy" drug for athletes to try and obtain. The East Germans studied this drug pretty extensively for many years and some of the success of this now defunct country was attributed to this drug, which made it?s first appearance to athletes in East Germany as little blue "Vitamins" their coaches gave to them. This drug has been discontinued by all of the major pharmaceutical houses, and is only found through certain underground labs. Even though some UnderGround Labs have access to this item, and it appears on their price-lists, it?s still rare enough. I believe it was first produced in the last half decade by a certain cat in Thailand. It?s my speculation that it?s on the cusp of either becoming very popular, to the point where every Underground Lab will start carrying their own version of it, or it will disappear again and only be carried by a select few, if any, suppliers.

The easiest way to explain this drug is that it is a derivative of Dianabol. Though it is a derivative of our old friend Diana, it?s still quite different...remember, Equipoise is estrified Dianabol, and really has nothing in common with it, in terms of real-world-effects. Let?s examine OT in relation to D-bol for now, though. The first similarity between the two is that they have both been 17-alpha-alkylated (a carbon atom was added at the 17th position) to survive the first pass through the liver. This, of course, increases hepatoxicity (liver toxicity). OT has a much lower level of androgenic activity compared to dianabol, but a better balance/ratio of anabolic and androgenic effects. It has a rating of a 0 (according to the Vida reference) for androgenic properties and a 53 for anabolic properties based on a score of 100 each for testosterone. This promotes more of a "hard" look, of what competition bodybuilders often call "quality" muscle. You do not get the same "puffy" look as you would on d-bol, and many people have thus compared the results they?ve gotten from OT to Anavar. Actually, though, this stuff is simply dianabol with a 4-chloro alteration, the same alteration found in Clostebol.

Due to this 4-chloro substitution in the A-Ring of its Steran Nucleus, this drug cannot be aromatized (3). This is, as you know, quite beneficial and is one of the reasons Oral Turinabol has been called a "gentle d-bol." You will probably not get any typical estrogenic side effects like water retention, acne, gyno, etc, at any dose of this drug. A couple of studies I read examining male athletes over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects. It has been recommended that men should take between 20-40mg every day and women a 5mg every day, and I generally think that it is not very strong (as compared to many other orals) and wouldn?t drop below the 40mg mark if I were to use it personally. It may perhaps be used in low(er) doses if it is simply being used for it?s ability to reduce SHBG?s binding (1) to other steroids. In this respect, it may have synergy with other drugs, since it has the ability to reduce SHBG and thus free up more testosterone for use in your body.

The only negative thing I have heard about this drug is that in high doses (10+mg) virilization has been seen in women(14) and there has been at least one case of testicular tumors, and one case of a guy who suffered adverse effects from 5 years of high-dose use of OT (2)(4). It should be noted that the former East Germans did many experiments with this drug in high doses though, and found it to be a very suitable compound for their athletes. Many of the women suffered virilization at higher doses, though. During the 68-72 Olympic cycles, the East German Sports OT program made its biggest impact. It was around this time, that the East German weightlifters were taking over 10g/year of OT, and their leading male sprinter was taking under 730mgs/year of OT (14). I think this tells me that for real weight gains, and huge gains in the weight room, you?re going to need bank-breaking dosages of this stuff. On the bright side, if you are an athlete looking to get faster, a little bit of OT will get you there pretty easily, and with minimal (if any) side effects). I think that it?s inability to cause negative side effects, and it?s ability to produce a favorable increase in lean body mass and thus a favorable increase in strength/speed and an athlete?s strength:bodyweight ratio is what turned the East German coaches and scientists on. It must be noted that, at the time, this stuff was mostly undetectable, and that was certainly a sought after trait by the East Germans, who were looking to circumvent the drug testing procedures of the IOC. Now, of course, OT is detectable, as once it?s administered to man, three major metabolites are formed: 6 beta-hydroxy-turinabol, 6 beta, 12-dihydroxy-turinabol, and 6 beta, 16-dihydroxy-turinabol (5)(8)(9).All of those metabolites are now detectable by drug screeners. In much smaller quantities at least another three metabolites are excreted, one of which could be identified as 17 epi-turinabol (5), and is easily detected by modern drug tests... No measurable amounts of OT itself is detected in any of the urine samples investigated in sports doping procedures, but the presence of the metabolites is enough to warrant a positive result, and a failed test. Keeping all of this in mind, it is still important to note that the rate of metabolism and urinary excretion or Oral Turinabol is reasonably fast (5), even though it is technically eliminated biphastically (in two stages) by the body, with a terminal 16hr ? life (1). I think that the sports-doping-party-poopers (The NCAA and IOC) OT is notorious for increasing the time it will take for your blood to clot because it has spontaneous fibrinolytic properties. "Fibrinolytic effects" means that the destruction of fibrin (an insoluble fibrous protein produced in the liver from the soluble protein) is happening in your body. Fibrinogen is important during the blood clotting process, as it is a soluble protein in the blood that is converted to insoluble fibrin by the action of the enzyme thrombin in response to tissue damage. (6)(7) Thus, you will bleed for longer than usual when on this stuff, combine that with the fact that steroids raise your hematocrit and you?ll be spending your entire morning trying to stop the bleeding if you cut yourself shaving. Well, that?s probably an exaggeration, but not by much.

martialartsman
09-13-2012, 08:35 AM
my training partner had very good results with this product

AryanSteel
10-19-2012, 03:51 PM
Good read, will be startin this late nov. after tukey day

abnranger
10-19-2012, 04:22 PM
Luv TBol my favorite oral usually run 75mgs to 100mgs with quality muscle gained

texas boy
10-19-2012, 05:00 PM
i love it, its a good kick start on a cutting cycle.

gym66
10-19-2012, 05:05 PM
The sides were a bit much on 100mg.

juni315
10-30-2012, 09:42 PM
Has anyone had night sweats while on T-bol? Im taking 60 mgs a day as a kick start to my test-eq cycle and have been waking up in the middle of the night soaking wet.

xmuscle
10-30-2012, 11:00 PM
Sounds like u have some tren in you

beanlicker
10-31-2012, 01:50 AM
Sounds like u have some tren in you

Agreed....I taken plenty of tbol and had that effect and I've never heard of anyone else having that reaction to tbol

ShortnWide
10-31-2012, 08:00 AM
Yeah I def have not had that effect with Tbol. I actually like Tbol, var, win because I don't get any sides really. My sides come from dbol, anadrol or halo.

juni315
10-31-2012, 06:06 PM
Maybe I just have the heat to high.LOL

gotgear
10-31-2012, 10:11 PM
Sounds like your tbol might be contaminated with something else. Ive never had night sweats from it. And I have used it several times.

rippedgolfer
12-12-2012, 12:47 PM
I used tbol in my last cycle and it was great. I was using 50 mg a day. I'll probably use it on my next blast.

bhcolex50x
12-12-2012, 07:33 PM
i want to try it again i ran it with a lot of other shit and couldn't really tell a diff

rippedgolfer
12-12-2012, 08:52 PM
i want to try it again i ran it with a lot of other shit and couldn't really tell a diff

It's very mild from what I remember. I used it to kickstart a cycle so I felt the effects. Made me hard with dry gains but I liked it.

bhcolex50x
12-12-2012, 09:48 PM
good deal, i think my next cycle might be prop, var, tbol and maybe tren...

johnnytats
01-31-2013, 07:08 PM
i get different body temp spikes from different gear. test will heat you up a little .three things stacked will heat you up a little at night .tren the worst. i was thinking tbol next cycle but i just ran tren to the point i cut my cycle short, could not stop sweating.

metromuscle
01-31-2013, 07:26 PM
I remember "experimenting" with T-bol some years back having been a Dianabol purist, and was surprised at the results and so few side effects, esp. in my liver and kidney blood labs. Been sold on it since, though I'm surprised at so many guys who aren't even aware of it. All they know is Dianabol and Anadrol.

overburdened
02-01-2013, 03:16 AM
Oral Turinabol Profile

(4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone)
[4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one]
Molecular Weight:334.8854
Formula:C20H27O2Cl
Manufacturer: Underground Labs only
Effective Dose (Men): 10-40mgs/day
Effective Dose (Women): 5-15mgs/day
Active life: 16 hours
Detection Time: 6 weeks
Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: >100:>0

Oral Turinabol was first developed by scientists in East Germany for their Olympic and national-level athletes to use. This, plus the eventual removal of it from the market caused OT to become a very "sexy" drug for athletes to try and obtain. The East Germans studied this drug pretty extensively for many years and some of the success of this now defunct country was attributed to this drug, which made it?s first appearance to athletes in East Germany as little blue "Vitamins" their coaches gave to them. This drug has been discontinued by all of the major pharmaceutical houses, and is only found through certain underground labs. Even though some UnderGround Labs have access to this item, and it appears on their price-lists, it?s still rare enough. I believe it was first produced in the last half decade by a certain cat in Thailand. It?s my speculation that it?s on the cusp of either becoming very popular, to the point where every Underground Lab will start carrying their own version of it, or it will disappear again and only be carried by a select few, if any, suppliers.

The easiest way to explain this drug is that it is a derivative of Dianabol. Though it is a derivative of our old friend Diana, it?s still quite different...remember, Equipoise is estrified Dianabol, and really has nothing in common with it, in terms of real-world-effects. Let?s examine OT in relation to D-bol for now, though. The first similarity between the two is that they have both been 17-alpha-alkylated (a carbon atom was added at the 17th position) to survive the first pass through the liver. This, of course, increases hepatoxicity (liver toxicity). OT has a much lower level of androgenic activity compared to dianabol, but a better balance/ratio of anabolic and androgenic effects. It has a rating of a 0 (according to the Vida reference) for androgenic properties and a 53 for anabolic properties based on a score of 100 each for testosterone. This promotes more of a "hard" look, of what competition bodybuilders often call "quality" muscle. You do not get the same "puffy" look as you would on d-bol, and many people have thus compared the results they?ve gotten from OT to Anavar. Actually, though, this stuff is simply dianabol with a 4-chloro alteration, the same alteration found in Clostebol.

Due to this 4-chloro substitution in the A-Ring of its Steran Nucleus, this drug cannot be aromatized (3). This is, as you know, quite beneficial and is one of the reasons Oral Turinabol has been called a "gentle d-bol." You will probably not get any typical estrogenic side effects like water retention, acne, gyno, etc, at any dose of this drug. A couple of studies I read examining male athletes over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects. It has been recommended that men should take between 20-40mg every day and women a 5mg every day, and I generally think that it is not very strong (as compared to many other orals) and wouldn?t drop below the 40mg mark if I were to use it personally. It may perhaps be used in low(er) doses if it is simply being used for it?s ability to reduce SHBG?s binding (1) to other steroids. In this respect, it may have synergy with other drugs, since it has the ability to reduce SHBG and thus free up more testosterone for use in your body.

The only negative thing I have heard about this drug is that in high doses (10+mg) virilization has been seen in women(14) and there has been at least one case of testicular tumors, and one case of a guy who suffered adverse effects from 5 years of high-dose use of OT (2)(4). It should be noted that the former East Germans did many experiments with this drug in high doses though, and found it to be a very suitable compound for their athletes. Many of the women suffered virilization at higher doses, though. During the 68-72 Olympic cycles, the East German Sports OT program made its biggest impact. It was around this time, that the East German weightlifters were taking over 10g/year of OT, and their leading male sprinter was taking under 730mgs/year of OT (14). I think this tells me that for real weight gains, and huge gains in the weight room, you?re going to need bank-breaking dosages of this stuff. On the bright side, if you are an athlete looking to get faster, a little bit of OT will get you there pretty easily, and with minimal (if any) side effects). I think that it?s inability to cause negative side effects, and it?s ability to produce a favorable increase in lean body mass and thus a favorable increase in strength/speed and an athlete?s strength:bodyweight ratio is what turned the East German coaches and scientists on. It must be noted that, at the time, this stuff was mostly undetectable, and that was certainly a sought after trait by the East Germans, who were looking to circumvent the drug testing procedures of the IOC. Now, of course, OT is detectable, as once it?s administered to man, three major metabolites are formed: 6 beta-hydroxy-turinabol, 6 beta, 12-dihydroxy-turinabol, and 6 beta, 16-dihydroxy-turinabol (5)(8)(9).All of those metabolites are now detectable by drug screeners. In much smaller quantities at least another three metabolites are excreted, one of which could be identified as 17 epi-turinabol (5), and is easily detected by modern drug tests... No measurable amounts of OT itself is detected in any of the urine samples investigated in sports doping procedures, but the presence of the metabolites is enough to warrant a positive result, and a failed test. Keeping all of this in mind, it is still important to note that the rate of metabolism and urinary excretion or Oral Turinabol is reasonably fast (5), even though it is technically eliminated biphastically (in two stages) by the body, with a terminal 16hr ? life (1). I think that the sports-doping-party-poopers (The NCAA and IOC) OT is notorious for increasing the time it will take for your blood to clot because it has spontaneous fibrinolytic properties. "Fibrinolytic effects" means that the destruction of fibrin (an insoluble fibrous protein produced in the liver from the soluble protein) is happening in your body. Fibrinogen is important during the blood clotting process, as it is a soluble protein in the blood that is converted to insoluble fibrin by the action of the enzyme thrombin in response to tissue damage. (6)(7) Thus, you will bleed for longer than usual when on this stuff, combine that with the fact that steroids raise your hematocrit and you?ll be spending your entire morning trying to stop the bleeding if you cut yourself shaving. Well, that?s probably an exaggeration, but not by much.


The fibrinolytic effects it possesses makes it a prime candidate for those who enjoy some of the more 'erythropoetic' aas(the one's that tend to make you body make way more red blood cells), such as anadrol, EQ, deca(to an extent), test(to an extent)... you get the idea...
by keeping your blood from clotting as easily, you can get by with higher RBC counts, as well as hematocrit, with less likelihood of clotting issues such as stroke, heart attack, etc.... Where this can REALLY come in handy is in precontest prep... When you are depleted, and dry as hell, from getting ready for a bodybuilding show, that is one of the most common SERIOUS issues that can result(especially when you have used highly erythropoetic aas leading up to the show...). And, in all reality, it makes you hold next to NO WATER, gives you a great pump, and is VERY effective at glycogen loading into muscles(all of which are what you look for in precontest aas, for the final weeks of prep).... So, you end up with a great oral to throw in there the last 4-6 weeks leading up to the show, and also GREATLY lower your risk of heart attack(due to a clot), or stroke, or a clot anywhere else in your body(which can, at any time, dislodge and end up in your brain, leaving you the victim of a stroke....)...

It is a little pricey, and for this reason, I would assume their are many UGL 'fakes' of it, that actually contain something else, which is less costly to manufacture... So, know your sources guys!!!! Don't get caught with your pants down cause you were trying to save a buck buying from a sponsor you don't know all that well(or that has a reputation for switching out products).... Once you have tried turinabol, its' going to be a little harder for someone to pawn something off on you, saying it's turinabol(when its not)... you will know for sure with in a week or so, if it is something else.... turinabol isn't like nearly any other aas, it it very unique in how it 'feels'

Anyway, I'm looking forward to starting my next var/tbol/prov caps(on top of my injectables)... It was a great combo last time, and I'm looking forward to it again:-)

anyone that hasn't tried it yet, and want to check it out... feel free to pm me, with stats, goals, and cycle history.. and I'll help you out with dosages...

Have at it guys!!! It's in my top 10 for sure!!

exphys88
02-01-2013, 05:13 AM
Def my favorite oral

gator-mclusky
02-01-2013, 05:30 AM
Love it. Did it last yr and loved it. Been on about a week now.

Enigmatic707
02-11-2013, 02:05 AM
I also love Tbol- I love to run it while I'm I'm competition season for BJJ-

For bb'ing purposes, I tend to really enjoy it at high doses 90-100mg a day... The pumps are amazing and recovery is second to none... Very steady lean gains.

vw4334
04-12-2013, 11:57 PM
Picking some up for my summer blast

crush
04-13-2013, 07:57 PM
Picking some up for my summer blast


Heck yeah me too.

vw4334
05-04-2013, 05:09 PM
50mg/day or 100mg/day ? Which is more effective and is 100mg/day a waste, can i get the same benefit from 50mg/day

JDM
09-10-2015, 12:57 PM
Awesome info. I'm definitely keen to give Tbol a go next cycle

miggymig
09-10-2015, 04:13 PM
I love tbol

maikolo33
09-11-2015, 12:05 AM
Used this last few weeks of my test cycle definitely is a good product nice lean mass/strength!

Mountain-Man
10-06-2015, 11:16 PM
The wife is doing great with it

aussieraven
10-25-2015, 09:05 AM
So far I'm liking tbol as much as anavar, makes me think the anavar I got was actually tbol



pretty good lean gains and vascularity!

MaxMark
11-06-2015, 07:33 PM
Enjoyed the article, great read. Tbol is at the top of the list of favorite orals

cominback22
11-07-2015, 02:34 AM
Thinking about trying tbol out this coming spring. Excited about it.

buster2000
11-11-2015, 02:51 PM
thank you for the info

dc_812000
01-24-2016, 07:30 PM
I like tbol ran it at 100mg. Still got sides from it. Just not as much as dbol.

dc.

Mountain-Man
01-24-2016, 11:13 PM
I like tbol ran it at 100mg. Still got sides from it. Just not as much as dbol.

dc.
Same here I'm at 120 Ed now and it is insane loving it I started at 40 my Ed and worked my way up

bdad
02-22-2016, 03:35 PM
I started at 40 have now worked up to 80. Pumps are insane.

21infantry
02-22-2016, 08:05 PM
TBOL is the shit, by far my favorite oral

21infantry
02-22-2016, 08:06 PM
I like tbol ran it at 100mg. Still got sides from it. Just not as much as dbol.

dc.


You got sides from Tbol? Tbol has less sides then almost anyghting except killer gains

Memphis
02-23-2016, 04:05 AM
Same here love tbol! I'm doing 80mg Ed and I haven't worked out in 5 days, busy with life, and I'm just swole from it, feels great!I started ordering Raws because I was spending to much on it So now I make my own liquid tbol!

Tbrotherx
08-14-2016, 06:11 PM
Tried it for a week but unfortunately was giving my horrible nose bleeds. No high bp, just nose bleeds. At the end of week 1 on legs day I was ripping my 6 rep max for 25 reps. My joints and muscle also felt more "fluid" and endurance was sky high. Great for performance.

50 was pribably too high but I prefer anavar

smartan
08-29-2016, 09:00 PM
I think Tbol is highly underrated. Its a very nice oral with quality slow gains Anyone highly concerned with Drol or Dbol Water retention and estrogen related sides, Tbol is a great alternative.

Jay0536
10-07-2016, 01:23 AM
I have seen a lot of great reviews on OT it will defiantly be in my next cycle.

TheHound
01-02-2017, 11:17 PM
Good info. I'm on my first dbol cycle. So far so good

Heavy
07-18-2017, 02:11 AM
Hopefully be trying this out very soon

big tom
08-10-2017, 02:49 AM
nice info, i am ready to run it.

TheMack
08-12-2017, 09:33 PM
nice info, i am ready to run it.

If you have never tried it big tom you should definitely run it. Slow and steady gains that you keep.

subunit
08-16-2017, 03:47 PM
i would compare it to a cross between var and dbol. As others have stated very maintainable gains.

SRHealthTech-Alvin
08-22-2017, 03:04 AM
most our customers has good results with tbol, as for women, 2.5mg-5mg/day is good.

bluebeast06
02-21-2018, 10:32 PM
This is my choice for a 4 week kicker and 4 week finisher on my next 12 week cycle

crossfire
05-03-2018, 01:41 PM
Looking at adding tbol at the beginning of a cut as a kicker and finishing it off with winstrol.

Kuahara
01-19-2019, 05:46 AM
Is tbol a good alternative to winstrol?

jrock645
06-17-2020, 01:34 AM
Def wanna try tbol. Sounds like good stuff.

mike312
06-17-2020, 01:37 AM
Excellent oral... Not harsh like winny and strength and muscle gain is a little better with no water... Won't dry you out like winny but overall really good quality hard gains...no aromatizing.. No water bloat.. . Also diet is key!

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iconpharma
06-17-2020, 08:35 AM
i love tbol, very lean dry gains, was east germanys steroid of choice with which they dominated sports for decades. lean lean big gains

Riggs
06-19-2020, 02:18 AM
IME Tbol helps offset the significant BP spike "I" experience with Boldenone. Call it broscience, call it what you will, I'm not recommending anyone else to do it, I'll still keep stacking em. When I run EQ w/Dbol, Sdrol, Abombs BP spikes. I don't experience this when I add Tbol to EQ. Tbol is under-rated IMO. I experience a significant mood enhancement and improved endurance. Vascularity improves but not the the degree of Var or Winny. Strength increase is there but not the biggest bennie IMO.

I'm anxious to stack Tbol/Sdrol. Just haven't had the right timing for it yet. Basically a dry version of both Dbol & drol.

Anyway I'm not a guy to delve in to the profile of AAS and rather try to share personal experience but make it clear I'm only sharing anecdotal evidence.

iconpharma
06-19-2020, 04:33 PM
Tbol is probably my 2nd most favorite compound as it can be used offseason and hardcore on season. recomp is easy with it. no wonder east germans used and invented this and dominated Olympics for 2 decades. very very clean no estro gains. incredible pumps but no water weight. its like winstrol and anadrol or dbol combined and best of both taken and put into 1

MarineOnGear92
10-14-2020, 06:14 PM
100mg/day has been good to me.

thebear
10-14-2020, 10:35 PM
IME Tbol helps offset the significant BP spike "I" experience with Boldenone. Call it broscience, call it what you will, I'm not recommending anyone else to do it, I'll still keep stacking em. When I run EQ w/Dbol, Sdrol, Abombs BP spikes. I don't experience this when I add Tbol to EQ. Tbol is under-rated IMO. I experience a significant mood enhancement and improved endurance. Vascularity improves but not the the degree of Var or Winny. Strength increase is there but not the biggest bennie IMO.

I'm anxious to stack Tbol/Sdrol. Just haven't had the right timing for it yet. Basically a dry version of both Dbol & drol.

Anyway I'm not a guy to delve in to the profile of AAS and rather try to share personal experience but make it clear I'm only sharing anecdotal evidence.

I agree. Tbol is one of my favorites. Tightens new up so well, I feel great and feel like I look like Nick Walker, then I look in the mirror. But I have run it with NPP and EQ as well. Minor BP spoke to 130/90 but once off it is fine.