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FREEKSHOW
12-01-2011, 02:17 AM
Trenbolone Enanthate Profile:
(Trenbolone Base + Enanthate Ester)
[17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one]
Formula (base): C18 H22 O2
Formula (ester): C7 H12 O
Molecular Weight (base): 270.3706
Molecular Weight (ester): 130.1864
Melting Point (base): 183-186C
Manufacturer: Stark, Dpharm, Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-600mgs/wk
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 8 days
Detection Time: 5 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 500/500

Trenbolone enanthate was the steroid produced by underground labs to take the place of Parabolan, and its obscure ester. Tren enanthate basically is the longest acting version of tren we have available on the market right now, and it actually offers a couple of advantages over the traditional Tren A that's been available for the last couple of years as either an UG Product, or from converting Finaplex Pellets into an injectable.

I had the opportunity to be one of the first athletes in the world to try this product, from the UG "Stark Labs." It was so new, in fact, that when I sent it away for testing, the lab told me that they had nothing to really compare it to, and that they were simply estimating potency and legitimacy based on the respective values for the Trenbolone molecule and the Enanthate ester.

I'm not going to go into the various merits of trenbolone, but I would like to discuss some unique properties the Enanthate version has. For one reason or another, this stuff doesnt give me tren cough, and I am particularly susceptible to this side-effect of Tren, which basically cripples me for the first week I use it. Regardless of whether I use home-brewed Tren, UG lab Tren, or Vet-Grade, I was basically crippled for the first week of use. I can't tell you why, exactly, this was, and can only speculate that it was due to a rise in prostaglandins. Tren enanthate didn't have this effect on me, however. Yeah, that's right. I know that the ester attached to a steroid doesn't dictate any of its properties, but in this particular case, I believe that the enanthate ester provided less of a sharp rise in prostaglandin levels and allowed my body to not develop the dreaded "tren-cough" that usually side-lines me when I start a cycle including Tren.

There is a method of prostaglandin production whereby prostaglandins made from one pathway in particular happen to dictate some muscle constriction as well as platlet aggregation, while the other method of production dictates bronchial constriction, and this could possibly be the means by which Tren Acetate causes that vicious cough. The reason why though this is speculation the enanthate version doesn't cause this rapid rise in prostaglandins is because of its more steady release, and my body's ability to gradually acclimatize itself to this. If you look at the graphs in the Minto studies (in the Deca profile), you'll see that the rise and rapid peak in blood plasma levels afforded by short esters are profoundly higher than those provided with longer esters, and it's my belief that the enanthate ester provides a lower peak level and less rapid rise in prostaglandin levels, especially the ones which dictate that second form of prostaglandin release which causes bronchial constriction. I feel that this bronchial constriction never really leaves you while you use any form of Tren, and this is what causes the shortness of breath experienced by many athletes on Tren.

Anyway, clearly the long estered Tren is a viable compound for those who wish to make minimal injections, and still use a nice lean-mass providing, non-aromatizing anabolic.

paolo123
12-01-2011, 02:24 AM
Oh shit freek posting 411, my brotha.lol

lost1
12-24-2011, 03:31 PM
Should Tren E be injected twice a week like Deca or Test E and does it depend on how much test your using on a cycle? Just wondering thinking of trying it after the first of the year. Is a good starting point 300ml a week 150 per injection?

paolo123
12-24-2011, 04:15 PM
2 x's a wk

JTizzle
12-24-2011, 04:47 PM
Great info FREEK , I have been a Tren Ace fan for years but lately the long ester is making me drool a bit.. Thanks for sharing you specific experiences and all the info..

lost1
12-25-2011, 06:31 PM
thanks bro

martialartsman
09-13-2012, 08:34 AM
by far my favourite compound, my sweet spot is 750mg wk

BIGBOSS
09-13-2012, 12:03 PM
TREN E is my favorite!!!

metromuscle
09-13-2012, 09:45 PM
As for the famous "tren cough", I realize it's different for everyone, but I'd always seem to get it the first day or so after injecting, then I would be ok...It did drive me nuts though

1tuffcookie
09-17-2012, 03:26 PM
Does anyone else feel like when doing tren you get winded alot easier???

almonster
10-20-2012, 02:33 PM
Does anyone else feel like when doing tren you get winded alot easier???

i do notice a big difference

bionic redneck
10-21-2012, 12:47 PM
test and tren are the only two compounds i run.. period.. for 2 reasons.. they are cost effective and u can do a bulker or a cutter on the same combo..

vw4334
10-22-2012, 07:26 PM
How many mgs are effective

beanlicker
10-22-2012, 10:21 PM
In order to give the proper dosing/cycle advice, it would help to know your:

age
height
weight
BF%
Years of Lifting experience
# of previous cycles

gotgear
10-23-2012, 05:54 PM
i do notice a big difference

On tren I get winded just taking a crap.

almonster
11-12-2012, 10:27 AM
On tren I get winded just taking a crap.

lmao

Mr. Wayne
12-30-2013, 06:54 PM
I Love Tren E. It and Test E are in every one of my cycles. I absolutley have some sides at first but they go away after a few days. I have a friend though that I believe is getting some Progesten build up to give him gyno like effects I know what to use to combat it but I was wonder if someone could direct me to a page that explains the prolactin/Progestin build up so I can show him what I am trying to teach him. He is already having issues after three weeks on Tren e. I am trying to convince him to switch to something more mild as it is only his second cycle. Im thinking equipose. Any input is greatly appreciated. I know the info is here and I have been looking. I knew where it was at my old home but I am still learning this board which I consider my new home. I normaly hate to ask and prefer to research but time is a factor; however, that is why I asked for directions to the thread. I will research it. Thanks in advance for any input. I know I would need Caber but I feel it would be easier to switch him and safer.

Traxm
01-19-2014, 03:47 AM
Gonna be my first cycle on tren in a few weeks! Cant wait!

Wicked
04-06-2016, 06:01 AM
Appreciate all the knowledge. Thanks for this post.

Aussiejim
04-29-2016, 02:51 AM
Great thread fellas

stolle
01-31-2017, 03:33 PM
Here is some gear porn on the strongest tren around 300 mg/ml 1170611707

fitraver
01-31-2017, 03:39 PM
That packaging is sick lookin!

bobhead
02-01-2017, 06:32 AM
That says test 250. Would love some tren 300 though.

BobbyJake
02-01-2017, 11:02 PM
Says test on box, tren on vial


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bobhead
02-01-2017, 11:17 PM
I see.

paul138
03-14-2017, 08:33 PM
​freek....unreal and some great info on all the profiles its much appreciated

rocky83
03-22-2017, 02:48 PM
2nd favorite AAS

MONSTER GEAR
08-06-2017, 07:09 PM
A wonderful article, this is one of the most effective steroids

Robertcastillo310
06-06-2018, 05:39 AM
Thanks for the info!

ironmaster
06-16-2018, 05:28 AM
Here is my take on the subject and I speak with 20+ years of AAS use.

1)TREN dosing

300-400mg/week no need for more it is just wreck-less and stuipid only exception to go higher would be for contest prep
Tren e 2xwk
Tren a ed or eod

2)Tren e
Gives me more night sweats although if I add mast to the mix I find tren sides are less and that goes for both esters.

3)Cycle length
Tren e 8-10 weeks
Tren a 6-8 weeks

4) Tren for comp use
Only use Tren a last 8 weeks of prep along with winny plus some test and increase dose of tren as comp gets closer stop tren 2 weeks out and replace with halo or up the winny dose once tren is dropped and oral winny only.
Comp prep cycle use
week1-2
Tren a 100mg 3xwk mon wed fri

week 3
Tren a 50mg ed

week 4
Tren a 75mg ed

week 5-6
Tren a 100mg ed

Stop 2 weeks out and add halo or up winny dose last 2 weeks reason is that sometimes it is hard to fill out with tren in your system.

use the above rules and you will get all you want from tren.

Extra advise
Always control your E2
Have caber on hand
If want more lean gain keep Test between 250-350mg/wk
When gunning for all out mass test can start at 500mg/wk and move up to as high as 1500mg/wk at these doses you will no doubt be on an AI plus caber you have been warned.

Primemuscle
06-16-2018, 07:37 AM
Here is my take on the subject and I speak with 20+ years of AAS use.

1)TREN dosing

300-400mg/week no need for more it is just wreck-less and stuipid only exception to go higher would be for contest prep
Tren e 2xwk
Tren a ed or eod

2)Tren e
Gives me more night sweats although if I add mast to the mix I find tren sides are less and that goes for both esters.

3)Cycle length
Tren e 8-10 weeks
Tren a 6-8 weeks

4) Tren for comp use
Only use Tren a last 8 weeks of prep along with winny plus some test and increase dose of tren as comp gets closer stop tren 2 weeks out and replace with halo or up the winny dose once tren is dropped and oral winny only.
Comp prep cycle use
week1-2
Tren a 100mg 3xwk mon wed fri

week 3
Tren a 50mg ed

week 4
Tren a 75mg ed

week 5-6
Tren a 100mg ed

Stop 2 weeks out and add halo or up winny dose last 2 weeks reason is that sometimes it is hard to fill out with tren in your system.

use the above rules and you will get all you want from tren.

Extra advise
Always control your E2
Have caber on hand
If want more lean gain keep Test between 250-350mg/wk
When gunning for all out mass test can start at 500mg/wk and move up to as high as 1500mg/wk at these doses you will no doubt be on an AI plus caber you have been warned.

That’s a pretty solid guideline for how to use tren. As you know though it’s not a one size fits all so it should be noted that tho this guideline is great, it really depends on how the individual responds to the tren doses. However I do agree about the higher doses being used solely for contest prep and that most people have no reason to go over 400mg per week because it will get the job done granted that person is doing their job via diet, cardio & training.

One thing I’d like to also propose just for food for thought is the fact that one could use tren longer at a lower dosage granted their running the proper ancillaries as well as supplements to keep health markers in line. As well as getting blood work done to show if their able to continue to run tren longer then the 6-10 week duration (that seems to be a basic rule of thumb).

Now I’m not saying everyone can or should experiment with this. I’m just saying that used in a smart manner with a precautious approach one may be able to use tren longer and reap the great benefits it can bring without severely taxing their health


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Jaggs91
11-23-2018, 05:42 AM
have a test e tren e run coming up and im super excited! Love tren

dumbbellpress
03-02-2019, 12:46 AM
I love Tren Enan but the sides are getting to be too much for me at my advanced age (I turn 41 soon). I have pretty much decided I'll probably never run either Tren A or Tren E ever again. The older and older I get, the less and less tolerable the side effects are for me.

Jaggs91
03-02-2019, 12:58 AM
Here is my take on the subject and I speak with 20+ years of AAS use.

1)TREN dosing

300-400mg/week no need for more it is just wreck-less and stuipid only exception to go higher would be for contest prep
Tren e 2xwk
Tren a ed or eod

2)Tren e
Gives me more night sweats although if I add mast to the mix I find tren sides are less and that goes for both esters.

3)Cycle length
Tren e 8-10 weeks
Tren a 6-8 weeks

4) Tren for comp use
Only use Tren a last 8 weeks of prep along with winny plus some test and increase dose of tren as comp gets closer stop tren 2 weeks out and replace with halo or up the winny dose once tren is dropped and oral winny only.
Comp prep cycle use
week1-2
Tren a 100mg 3xwk mon wed fri

week 3
Tren a 50mg ed

week 4
Tren a 75mg ed

week 5-6
Tren a 100mg ed

Stop 2 weeks out and add halo or up winny dose last 2 weeks reason is that sometimes it is hard to fill out with tren in your system.

use the above rules and you will get all you want from tren.

Extra advise
Always control your E2
Have caber on hand
If want more lean gain keep Test between 250-350mg/wk
When gunning for all out mass test can start at 500mg/wk and move up to as high as 1500mg/wk at these doses you will no doubt be on an AI plus caber you have been warned.On my current run I started with my test at 500mgs a week and I've been at 1000mgs a week for 3 weeks now and loving it, also running deca at 900mgs a week started at 600 and my size and fullness is on a whole new level of awesome lol

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Hayabusa_muscle
03-02-2019, 04:57 PM
Does anyone else feel like when doing tren you get winded alot easier???

Yeah it will take a little wind out of your sales.
I use Singulair helps give ya some air back.

MarineOnGear92
11-01-2019, 12:48 PM
Yes bro , wayyyyyyy easier.. especially walking up a paid of stairs.

Hayabusa_muscle
11-01-2019, 05:39 PM
Alot less sides with tren e.
Just not as easy to control if you mind mess with yourself.

Much respect

Bullcrew
11-04-2019, 02:59 AM
I'm upping my run to tren 500mg wk and keeping test high as well 500+
Gonna see i

Skizzen
11-05-2019, 11:17 PM
Alot less sides with tren e.
Just not as easy to control if you mind mess with yourself.

Much respect

going to vary from person to person I get every side known to man on tren e but minimal on tren a. (Possible my tren e was more accurately dosed).
Aswell as gyno flare ups only on tren e.

Mattymoo
11-05-2019, 11:33 PM
The higher Tren You run you have to eat more food if you intend to bulk with it

Bullcrew
11-06-2019, 07:28 AM
The higher Tren You run you have to eat more food if you intend to bulk with it

This....
At 450mg a week I had to eat like a horse and cut out cardio...I still shed weight.....I will add it went catabolic on me a bit, I lost some muscle...as soon as I added anadrol and started to eat lots of carbs i shed fat and muscles got full and gained again...so make sure to keep carbs , that's just my experience and I'm doing it again.