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STEROID
12-15-2011, 02:08 AM
Higher Testosterone May Equal Lower Heart Risks
Published October 05, 2011
Reuters

Elderly men with naturally higher levels of testosterone may be less likely to suffer a heart attack or stroke than those men with lower levels of the hormone, according to a study.

Findings published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology showed that of 2,400 Swedish men in their 70s and 80s, those with the highest testosterone levels were less likely to suffer a heart attack or stroke over the next several years than men with the lowest levels.

But the results do not prove that testosterone itself deserves the credit, and it's too soon to recommend testosterone replacement to try to lower heart risks.

"What we can say is that elderly men with high testosterone levels are relatively protected against cardiovascular events, and therefore lower testosterone is a marker for increased cardiovascular risk," said Asa Tivesten, at Sahlgrenska University Hospital in Goteborg, Sweden, who led the study.

It's known that any serious health condition can lower testosterone levels, as can obesity. But in the study, the researchers accounted for a number of health factors -- including the men's weight, blood pressure and any diagnoses of diabetes, heart disease or stroke at the outset.

Of 604 men in the bottom quarter for levels of the "male" hormone at the study's start, 21 percent had a heart attack, severe chest pain or stroke over roughly five years.

That compared with roughly 16 percent of the 606 men who started out with the highest testosterone levels.

Even accounting for health factors, men in the highest-testosterone group still showed a 30 percent lower risk of heart disease or stroke compared with the other three-quarters of the study group.

But that doesn't rule out the possibility that something other than testosterone may be at work, said JoAnn Manson, chief of preventive medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, who was not involved in the study.

"Low testosterone may be a marker of other health conditions that put men at higher risk of cardiovascular disease," she said.

Potential reasons for why higher natural testosterone levels may be good for the heart include the fact that higher testosterone generally means less body fat and more lean muscle.

What's needed, she added, is evidence from clinical trials that actually test whether testosterone replacement in older men cuts the risk of heart disease and stroke.

Those trials are ongoing and so far, she noted, the results are mixed on whether testosterone replacement improves "intermediate" outcomes like cholesterol or blood sugar levels.

No one yet knows if it affects the ultimate outcomes of cardiovascular disease and lifespan.

"There are many unanswered questions, and I don't think this means that men should be trying to boost their testosterone with testosterone replacement therapy," she said.

The experience with hormone replacement therapy (HRT) in women offers a cautionary tale.

Before 2002, many women used HRT in the hopes of warding off heart disease and osteoporosis. Then a large U.S. clinical trial found that women given pills containing estrogen and progesterone actually had higher risks of blood clots, heart attack, stroke and breast cancer than women given placebo pills.

Now HRT is largely used only for treating severe hot flashes -- and then, only at the lowest dose and for the shortest time possible.

"So there are concerns about the risks in men," Manson said.

Among those are the potential for testosterone to contribute to blood clots, liver damage or prostate cancer.

"This is a study of endogenous (natural) hormone production. It does not provide information about what is happening when hormones are given as a therapy," Tiveston said.

Reaper
12-15-2011, 02:55 AM
Good read. I like to see a study on those who are under going HRT Therarpy. You would think the same results would occure. Higher test = leaner muscle. lower body fat.

animal87
12-15-2011, 08:55 PM
I've read a few articles that say low test levels increase colesterol in men of all ages.

Mountain Monster
12-15-2011, 09:19 PM
Good read, thanks fist!

lost1
12-20-2011, 12:12 AM
Seem all you read about TRT is good not sure why doctors are so afraid to put men on it. My doctor wouldnt even test my levels until i demanded it then i had to go somewhere else to be put a program it makes no sense.

slash75cmd
09-14-2012, 01:17 PM
I just had this discussion with my doctor about taking test and heart protection. Even with the research-based information I provided him, he didn't find any validity to prescribing it to patients. It showed me two things: (1) Primary doctors who don't keep up with trends are doing a disservice to their patients and (2) medical associations need to encourage more physicians in the medical community to implement hormonal tests in order to effectively treat their patients, either in a preventative manner or during the patient's ailment. After all, periodic shots of test can alleviate a ton of potential problems (erectile dysfunction, depression, muscle wasting, heart issues, etc.) which is far more efficient than the numerous pills that are prescribed and taken everyday by those who have not had their hormone levels thoroughly assessed by primary care practitioners.

Thank goodness for UGLs.

PAiN
09-14-2012, 09:48 PM
Seem all you read about TRT is good not sure why doctors are so afraid to put men on it. My doctor wouldnt even test my levels until i demanded it then i had to go somewhere else to be put a program it makes no sense.


I just had this discussion with my doctor about taking test and heart protection. Even with the research-based information I provided him, he did find any validity to prescribing it to patients. It showed me two things: (1) Primary doctors who don't keep up with trends are doing a disservice to their patients and (2) medical associations need to encourage more physicians in the medical community to implement hormonal tests in order to effectively treat their patients, either in a preventative manner or during the patient's ailment. After all, periodic shots of test can alleviate a ton of potential problems (erectile dysfunction, depression, muscle wasting, heart issues, etc.) which is far more efficient than the numerous pills that are prescribed and taken everyday by those who have not had their hormone levels thoroughly assessed by primary care practitioners.

Thank goodness for UGLs.


Great post.....

It's because there's no money in making you healthy.

STEROID
09-15-2012, 12:54 AM
Great post.....

It's because there's no money in making you healthy.



BINGO!!

Exactly right.

BIGBOSS
09-15-2012, 04:55 AM
Damn GOOD read bro!!!

STEROID
09-16-2012, 07:01 PM
Damn GOOD read bro!!!


Thank you sir.

metromuscle
09-17-2012, 05:32 PM
I've found too many doctors so pitifully clueless and uneducated on what test products are even out there. Seems they might know about dianabol, test enthanate or cypionate and that's about it. Ask about "Sustenon" for example and different blends and they will look at you like youre nuts. It took an arm and a leg for my reg. doctor to finally check my test level, which was only 300, and he never even followed up with any kind of treatment. If I did pursue it with him I'm sure all he would have prescribed would have been some lame-ass Androgel or something like that.

darklord
03-26-2013, 07:07 PM
Thanks

Big Joe
10-27-2019, 09:10 AM
Great post.....

It's because there's no money in making you healthy.


Bingo go there’s your answer!

Mattymoo
10-27-2019, 10:23 AM
I beleive pain medication can cause more damage to our bodies than steroids

SilverGrizzly
04-21-2020, 01:54 PM
There's no money in a cure...
If they keep us weak and sickly, we'll be less likely to retalliate.