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JMaxwell
09-14-2017, 02:52 PM
Wow...did I ever feel the drop off....

So this was my first legit cycle and I loved it. I felt like a younger better me!! But what goes up must come down.....I did follow an hcg protocol on cycle and did a full 4 week post cycle, but wow...I wasn't prepared for the drop off. I am now nine weeks since last injection, and I think I might be turning the corner. My sex drive took a big hit for a few weeks, which I did not expect, nor did my wife...😐. She kept asking me if I didn't find her attractive all of a sudden...(I guess since I was trying to fuck her to death for sixteen weeks straight, she noticed the drop off too). Anyway...I guess I am just looking for some encouraging feedback lol!

BIGCASPER
09-14-2017, 02:57 PM
Cilais and HCG ...More HCG then more cialis..you will be fine.

bulk_cut
09-14-2017, 03:00 PM
Get a blood test done that includes testosterone AND estrogen

Sqwuidd
09-14-2017, 03:31 PM
I run Cialis and HCG even when not on cycle -keeps the libido up

Def blood tests as well to get accurate levels.

JMaxwell
09-14-2017, 04:31 PM
Thanks, cialis does not do it for me. Tried it now a few times. Makes me feel like shit...might be a blood pressure issue, not sure..I have tried it at a couple different doses.. 10mg and 20mg, both ruin my day. So I guess it's not good news for me!! Lol!! I am for sure getting blood work done. I just wanted to wait a couple more weeks to make sure I rebounded as far as I will. Six weeks after last pct meds is my understanding. Thanks guys for your input.

Bombarinos
09-14-2017, 05:51 PM
Brother run a low dose of proviron 25 mg to 50 mg a day run hcg 500 to 1000 per week try pt141 peptide or if u tan u get mt2 which u will benefit from serious libido increase while off cycle also dial in your vitamin supolements to help bridge here is link below that i posted for new kid

Bombarinos
09-14-2017, 05:52 PM
Here are the eight best testosterone boosting supplements.
D-Aspartic Acid. D-Aspartic acid is a natural amino acid that can boost low testosterone levels. ...
Vitamin D. Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin produced in the skin when exposed to sunlight. ...
Tribulus Terrestris. ...
Fenugreek. ...
Ginger. ...
DHEA. ...
Zinc. ...
Ashwagandha.
Maca

Bombarinos
09-14-2017, 05:53 PM
Also u could bridge w sarms such as ostarine and gw is what i do to keep motivation for gym but get bloods checked see if estro is to high or low also prolactin could be a culprit if ran tren or decca before

Bombarinos
09-14-2017, 05:56 PM
#1 mental state do not ever compare your strength and libido while on and when you are off this will fuck with you mentally you have to learn to train Your brain the seperation between the 2 is a number one cause for this if you dwell on how u felt on u wont recover mentally as well.Its like being superman then goin back to clark kent easy terms

bulk_cut
09-14-2017, 05:59 PM
As usual, a lot of very good suggestions but none of them are addressing the root of the problem. If you feel like shit after your PCT the biggest source of your problem is most likely the PCT didn't work and your test levels are low and it's time to consider TRT or you're suffering from estrogen rebound. The only way to know what's going on and what to do is a blood test.

joko123
09-14-2017, 06:33 PM
They don't call it post cycle THERAPY for no reason lol it's rough going from super human to mere mortal. My feeling is a traditional post cycle therapy will kickstart your natural test levels back if they are meant to come. Get blood work done in another 4 to five weeks to see where you.


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Bombarinos
09-15-2017, 01:58 AM
As usual, a lot of very good suggestions but none of them are addressing the root of the problem. If you feel like shit after your PCT the biggest source of your problem is most likely the PCT didn't work and your test levels are low and it's time to consider TRT or you're suffering from estrogen rebound. The only way to know what's going on and what to do is a blood test.

And goin to get blood work is what i suggested exactly

69justinp69
09-15-2017, 01:01 PM
Wow...did I ever feel the drop off....

So this was my first legit cycle and I loved it. I felt like a younger better me!! But what goes up must come down.....I did follow an hcg protocol on cycle and did a full 4 week post cycle, but wow...I wasn't prepared for the drop off. I am now nine weeks since last injection, and I think I might be turning the corner. My sex drive took a big hit for a few weeks, which I did not expect, nor did my wife...😐. She kept asking me if I didn't find her attractive all of a sudden...(I guess since I was trying to fuck her to death for sixteen weeks straight, she noticed the drop off too). Anyway...I guess I am just looking for some encouraging feedback lol!I've been there bro. the adult book store, (FUCK SHOP) has an array of fuck pills that are badass, at $10 a piece. If I take 1 on Friday I can't wear my nail-apron a work until monday. Because of my tape measure in the front pouch. It'll bounce when I walk and that's all it takes to get hard. Hell, I have pulled up at the school to pick up my kids and won't be able to get out of the truck because of a hard on caused by hitting a bump in the road which caused my dick to jump up.tge pills last from 3 day's to 7 day's. Called (rhino) and another one called( X-again)

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One Hairy SOB
09-15-2017, 01:31 PM
As usual, a lot of very good suggestions but none of them are addressing the root of the problem. If you feel like shit after your PCT the biggest source of your problem is most likely the PCT didn't work and your test levels are low and it's time to consider TRT or you're suffering from estrogen rebound. The only way to know what's going on and what to do is a blood test.

This post is spot on. Get your bloods done... There are too many variables to guess on.

I wanted to add my experience with cialis... Just like you if I take 10mg-20mg it ruins my day. Stuffy nose, headaches, just over feel like shit... What I found has worked for me is taking 5mg per day at night a couple hours before bed. I'm able to get the libido benefit before bed and the side effects are little to none since they come while I'm sleeping. Cialis has a 17.5 hour half life, so you'll benefit from the dose the next day. Since it's such a low dose, there should be no sides the day after. If there is, a little morning caffeine should clear you right up.

puff
09-15-2017, 01:58 PM
what kind of cycle did u do anyway?


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bulk_cut
09-15-2017, 07:18 PM
This post is spot on. Get your bloods done... There are too many variables to guess on.

I wanted to add my experience with cialis... Just like you if I take 10mg-20mg it ruins my day. Stuffy nose, headaches, just over feel like shit... What I found has worked for me is taking 5mg per day at night a couple hours before bed. I'm able to get the libido benefit before bed and the side effects are little to none since they come while I'm sleeping. Cialis has a 17.5 hour half life, so you'll benefit from the dose the next day. Since it's such a low dose, there should be no sides the day after. If there is, a little morning caffeine should clear you right up.

Cialis affects me the same way and I take 5mg before bed too and it works great w/o most of the sides.


what kind of cycle did u do anyway?


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I've tried a lot of UGL Cialis and was disappointed in all of them except Balkan's (Roids24). There's is spot on and just like the stuff i get from the pharmacy.

2Pack_Sugar
09-15-2017, 10:54 PM
From your introduction thread, it looks like you're in your 40's. This means that you're probably not going to recover as quickly, or even at all, as some of the younger guys. It sounds like you did everything right while on your cycle with the HCG. I would maybe extend your next PCT another 2-3 weeks to see if this helps, otherwise you might just have to supplement with TRT dose testosterone (cruise) while not on a cycle (blasting). Blood work would be beneficial, but would be better if you had it done before your cycle for comparison.

I like a lot of Bombarino's suggestions, like Zinc, Maca, etc., but would stay away from DAA, as the last study I read stated 3g's did not elevate testosterone levels and 6g's actually lowered levels. Good luck, hopefully you rebound soon.

2Pack

JMaxwell
09-15-2017, 11:51 PM
#1 mental state do not ever compare your strength and libido while on and when you are off this will fuck with you mentally you have to learn to train Your brain the seperation between the 2 is a number one cause for this if you dwell on how u felt on u wont recover mentally as well.Its like being superman then goin back to clark kent easy terms

Thank you, that's definitely a great point.

JMaxwell
09-15-2017, 11:56 PM
This post is spot on. Get your bloods done... There are too many variables to guess on.

I wanted to add my experience with cialis... Just like you if I take 10mg-20mg it ruins my day. Stuffy nose, headaches, just over feel like shit... What I found has worked for me is taking 5mg per day at night a couple hours before bed. I'm able to get the libido benefit before bed and the side effects are little to none since they come while I'm sleeping. Cialis has a 17.5 hour half life, so you'll benefit from the dose the next day. Since it's such a low dose, there should be no sides the day after. If there is, a little morning caffeine should clear you right up.

Thank you, I will try that out.

JMaxwell
09-16-2017, 12:03 AM
From your introduction thread, it looks like you're in your 40's. This means that you're probably not going to recover as quickly, or even at all, as some of the younger guys. It sounds like you did everything right while on your cycle with the HCG. I would maybe extend your next PCT another 2-3 weeks to see if this helps, otherwise you might just have to supplement with TRT dose testosterone (cruise) while not on a cycle (blasting). Blood work would be beneficial, but would be better if you had it done before your cycle for comparison.

I like a lot of Bombarino's suggestions, like Zinc, Maca, etc., but would stay away from DAA, as the last study I read stated 3g's did not elevate testosterone levels and 6g's actually lowered levels. Good luck, hopefully you rebound soon.

2Pack


Yep 41 years old. I didn't get pre-cycle bloods and I know that was a mistake. Thankfully I found BOP a week after I started my cycle or I would have missed many other very important steps. Thanks for your advice.

JMaxwell
09-16-2017, 12:12 AM
what kind of cycle did u do anyway?


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500mg test E, 600mg EQ, HCG at 500 iu's week, Exemestane 12.5 eod, startded pct 3 weeks after last shot of EQ and 16 days after last shot of Test. Followed PAIN's moderate 4 week pct Clomid/nolvadex/ and Exemestane e3d