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baby1
12-23-2011, 01:56 PM
1. Your off-cycle period should always be at least 6 weeks long

When you ask yourself how long should you be off steroids, there's a simple rule of thumb that bodybuilders often use. It says that off-cycle period should be as same as the time being on steroids.However most users rather cheat sometimes and don't stay off of the gear for the recommended time. Sometimes this is due goals forcing the users to return to anabolic steroids as soon as possible in order not to lose gains. When that's the case, we recommend to stay off of the steroids for at least 6 weeks in order to give the pituitary-axis a chance to rest and to restore the cholesterol levels to more normal levels. During shorter rests between cycles some users take additional herbal supplements to detoxify the digestive system, for example the ESSIAC tea and Milk Thistle.

This combination can give amazing results within just 4-6 weeks. Additionally, usual anti-estrogens should be used. Clomid, Nolvadex and HCG therapy for 4 weeks is somehow a standard with steroid cycles. After that, some take additional Tribulus/DHEA stack of 1250mg/day for 2 weeks together with Saw Palmetto.

Such 6 weeks therapy is done mainly to recover the natural body testosterone production and the cleansing is mostly in order to keep the liver, kidneys, spleen, etc healthy. With therapy like this one, there are many users who have had a good recovery even if still using 100-200mg of Primobolan/week (simultaneously with a recovery cycle like the on mentioned).


2. Injection sites should be rotated

Many steroid users most often find their favorite spot for injection and then use just that one for awhile. Once we've had a guy who had a huge skin area with scar tissue on his hip because of injecting over and over again to the same area. Injecting to the same spot can cause abscess and the excessive scar tissue which then makes it more hard to inject into that area again because of the oil dispersion.

Read the section about injecting on our website or get some e-book in our e-books section for more insight on how to properly inject steroids and how to rotate sites.

Most oil based steroids can be drawn up in a 22 gauge needle and normally one inch of length is sufficient. With water based steroids such as Winstrol or Testosterone Suspension, the liquid can easily be injected with a 23-25 gauge needle. Winstrol which comes in multidose vials usually requires a 23 gauge but the Zambon can be taken with a 25 gauge.

A very important rule is also to not inject more than 2ml of a given liquid into the deltoids or other smaller muscles. For higher amounts than 2ml the glutes are more appropriate. Remember to inject at the rate of 1ml every 10 seconds and leave the syringe in for 10 seconds when finished. which will help the oil to disperse and will minimize the quantity of oil which "follows" the syringe out of the injection site when it is pulled out.


3. Do not talk around that you take anabolic steroids

Some guys in your gym may go around and talk loosely to everyone about their steroids usage. When you meet such "big mouth", always tell him that you are off of everything and training naturally for a while. If you don't do that, you can be almost sure that because he tells other people about his usage, he will most certantly tell them about your usage too.

Most popular destination for steroid suppliers is USA, however in recent times steroids usage is especially sensitive to illegal activity and it seems that the "ears" are out there and may be watching you, so make sure you know what you tell to whom. Sometimes when our customers try to wire money with Western Union the people at the office can be suspicious, some say that rules about wiring money have changed since 9/11. Also, they may ask you for your occupation. Considering all this, bodybuilders cannot be too careful right now, and that's another reason why we recommend using credit card payment when buying steroids online which is much more secure. (also, scammers normally cannot offer credit card payment)

A recent arrest of a supplier in Boston published in the newspaper article that local police had noticed his increased muscularity before he was arrested. Apparently, being increasingly muscular and making suspicious moves makes you match a certain profile of an anabolic steroid user.

Make sure that your don't ever keep your gear where it can be found or "happened" on by anybody in your life. Don't trust anyone and you will be safe. However, sometimes your partner may know about your usage to better understant your mood swings and libido changes, but you should anyway evaluate very carefully what kind of person are you involved
with. There are women (and men) out there who may turn you in to the authorities for vengeance or some other reason.


4. Always remember your long-term goals

There may come times, when you will want to throw away your reasons of usage and just hit yourself with the high dose you can get. If such moment comes, remember that you have people around you who will need you for awhile, children for example, or your family. Or, you should realize that your health is very precious and fragile, and that although your body is an incredible and durable machine, it always has it's limitations.

If you will be tempted to sacrifice everything for bodybuilding, you need to remind yourself that to really master something, you have to be in control of it rather than letting it to control you. If used with wisdom, your gear can greatly enhance your life and relationships and can serve as a springboard to other successes. Work hard to keep it that way and you will never have to suffer unmanageability as a result of lopsided values in this sport and from supplementation.

Continue to explore the world of bodybuilding and the juice as a way to life. If one of your long-term goals is to become a professional bodybuilder, then at least balance it out and keep in mind that someday you will still want to retire even if you do achieve a pro card.


5. Help the younger generation to train naturally first

The sport of bodybuilding will stay honorable only if the veteran users help the younger bodybuilders stay off of anabolic steroids until they are at least 25 years old or more.

If you will have young guys asking you if you know about steroids or if you could help them get some, you should always tell them "no" and feel somewhat sad that they feel the need at such a young age to use the gear. You should rather help them explore their natural genetics and use those first. Until someone is trully good at "instinct training" the whole world of steroids use and advanced bodybuilding which comes with it is a dangerous playground.

However, there is a large group of young people right now who don't even want to train without a steroid cycle. These people are endangering their health and it is important that the law enforcement community sees the veterans collectively as an opposing agency to such foolishness and risk.

Steroid veterans are not just a bunch of "meat heads" with no compassion or concern for the youth. You should not be ashamed to do what is right when the time comes. We also recommend younger users to read literature and e-books available online, written by known steroid veterans. The image and sport of bodybuilding depends largely on what the seasoned veterans do with the knowledge that they have.

Sites such as Steroids-Pharma.com is a perfect example of a professional and organized attempt at caring for the sport and others. We encourage anyone to get knowledge before getting any gear. We attempt to groom the mind of the steroids users in a responsible way. It is an action of community spiritedness, and it defies the reckless endangerment of steroids usage by many of our predecessors and customers who did not have our knowledge. We owe much to the many who went before us as they tested the waters with trial and error.


6. Do not skip visits to your doctor

We can spend hundreds and thousands dollars on cycles in order to look and feel great, but sometimes forget to maintain our inner health and spend some necessary money for health insurance and the required exams, especially the blood tests. It seems that many bodybuilders are just not serious in this department and leave much to chance or leave it to be discovered later when something is already becoming a serious illness.

You should use the old adage which says that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".


7. Do not forget the three components of fitness

You will get the most of your anabolic steroids usage when you are balanced in the three standard components of fitness: Cardio-vascular health, muscle strength with endurance, and flexibility. Derious cardio and plenty of stretching will greatly aid you in the overall health when on steroids.

With the increased cardio, your cholesterol levels will be more manageable, and the flexibility of frequent stretching will greatly aid with circulation as well as help to prevent injury. Even when your cholesterol levels are temporarily high after doing a cycle, they are very quickly brought back to normal with right nutrition and aggressive cardio workouts. Also, you should look for lean, more expensive cuts of meat and fish at all times.

With regard to flexibility, we recommend our customers to stretch at least three times each week for 20 minutes each time. It is also important to hold your each stretch for at least 20 seconds at a time because durations less than that are only good to make the muscle contract and tighten up, thus being counterproductive to flexiblity and injury prevention. But when you hold a stretch steadily for 20 seconds or more, you will feel a slow release and stretching of the muscle begin to happen. This is correct stretching at its best and is always what you should aim for.


8. Do not become lazy or disorganized

When we seek an answer to question of getting big, looking good and feeling great, then anabolic steroids are only part of the answer.

Some guys have had incredible cycles of expensive gear but they were just not getting that look that you would expect. If we explore such cases, we would find out that they were not eating enough of the right calories or the right amount of calories. Or they were not sleeping enough. Or they were not drinking enough water (most of your muscle volume is made of water). Or they were just not training hard enough.

Such people want to make the anabolics do all the work for them. Many had done little or no research at all about training with steroids (again, we recommend reading some e-books). This is lazy training and will rob you of potential gains.

Mountain Monster
12-23-2011, 03:42 PM
I'm not sure I believe in the as long as your on you should be off. You shouldn't start a new cycle until you have completely recovered from the last one. Blood work is the best solution for that. Before for a base and a couple weeks post cycle to see if your recovered FYI cruising is not recovering!

PAiN
12-25-2011, 11:19 PM
Great post! Thanks for sharing.

JTizzle
12-26-2011, 12:05 AM
Thanks for the post.. Good stuff for everyone ..

shoestring
12-27-2011, 07:37 PM
Great info. As far as blood work, is it safe just to be upfront with your doctor about steroid use? Will doctor allways be informed enough to evaluate your blood work as to advice on how to fix or bring you around?

bigpimpdaddy
12-27-2011, 10:41 PM
I rather enjoyed that post..it was very interesting and had some info you normally dont see..Good job.....
Did you write the post or copy and paste it?

lost1
12-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Great read soo true

STEROID
12-28-2011, 01:35 AM
Very good read baby1 and very true.

baby1
12-28-2011, 01:38 AM
I rather enjoyed that post..it was very interesting and had some info you normally dont see..Good job.....
Did you write the post or copy and paste it?

No I did not write it.

STEROID
12-28-2011, 01:40 AM
Great info. As far as blood work, is it safe just to be upfront with your doctor about steroid use? Will doctor allways be informed enough to evaluate your blood work as to advice on how to fix or bring you around?

Its always best to be 100% honest with your dr about your AAS use.First off,if you have blood work done,they'll know.You cant hide it anyway.Secondly,by being up front with him/her they will better be able to interpret your results and know how to diagnose you properly.Your question about them being educated enough to advise you,by telling them they will have reason to become better informed if they are not already.

They cannot disclose your medical information to anyone,including LE so why try to hide it?

lucky_slevin
12-28-2011, 02:01 AM
Great post Baby1.. Definitely had me thinking a bit...
Sorry, had to edit my post, thought FIST wrote the thread..

Bigbully
12-28-2011, 02:43 PM
Its always best to be 100% honest with your dr about your AAS use.First off,if you have blood work done,they'll know.You cant hide it anyway.Secondly,by being up front with him/her they will better be able to interpret your results and know how to diagnose you properly.Your question about them being educated enough to advise you,by telling them they will have reason to become better informed if they are not already.

They cannot disclose your medical information to anyone,including LE so why try to hide it?

I don't think I agree with that. While some doctors may be open minded, particularly an endocrinologist, Most won't. I believe it will go in your medical records which will wreak havoc on your insurability. Just my opinion though.

darksidefitness
12-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Great rule #3. I think that some people broke that rule in all those YMCA bust.

tuffy
12-28-2011, 05:42 PM
awesome

Rmewrench
01-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Its always best to be 100% honest with your dr about your AAS use.First off,if you have blood work done,they'll know.You cant hide it anyway.Secondly,by being up front with him/her they will better be able to interpret your results and know how to diagnose you properly.Your question about them being educated enough to advise you,by telling them they will have reason to become better informed if they are not already.

They cannot disclose your medical information to anyone,including LE so why try to hide it?

I think you should get blood work done before even looking at AAS no matter what. Then address the results with your doc and try to get a sense of what thier position is. Alot of docs want to treat numbers instead of symptoms. Also if the family doc is ok with treating you if trt is an option or if they are going to send you to and endo. Not all endo's are cool nor family docs about AAS. And if the family doc is on board, then if you have decent insurance its alot easier on the pocket book the monitor blood levels, liver values, kidney function, and make sure you arent messing yourself up.

baby1
01-02-2012, 03:03 PM
Let's remember that blood work can appear "normal" for a long time before damage has been done. I do think that getting a full bloodwork before starting aas would be a given.

Rmewrench
01-02-2012, 03:25 PM
Let's remember that blood work can appear "normal" for a long time before damage has been done. I do think that getting a full bloodwork before starting aas would be a given.

It definetly lets a person know exactly where their levels are at naturally and provides a good reference for recovery after cycle, and if someone decides to stop completely.

Ironman
01-13-2012, 06:17 AM
I don't go to the doctor for my blood work, I get it done at a lab corp. Pre and post cycle. $50 for a hormone test isn't bad, and you can get a lot of others as well.

baby1
01-13-2012, 01:32 PM
I don't go to the doctor for my blood work, I get it done at a lab corp. Pre and post cycle. $50 for a hormone test isn't bad, and you can get a lot of others as well.

You don't need an order at labcorp?

BIGBOSS
01-15-2012, 01:40 PM
Good info!!

PAiN
06-29-2012, 12:18 AM
You don't need an order at labcorp?

Good question.

exphys88
06-29-2012, 06:57 AM
Yes, you need an order. You can get one anonymously from quite a few sites. Privatemdlabs.com is my fav, you can get a bunch of stuff tested if you choose the female hormone panel-$50. Testosterone, lh, fsh, CBC, and estradiol are all tested.

omni
07-01-2012, 05:31 AM
The new/young guys around today are lucky to have info like this. Great Post!

LexLuger
07-08-2012, 07:00 AM
Nice info.

707boy
01-24-2014, 07:48 AM
so you mean i cant make a youtube channel and tell everyone doses and protocols lol:4_12_13: great post brother

HoldenCaulfield
04-16-2016, 08:51 PM
A lot of good info in there. Thanks! The only thing that I have a question about is the part where it says only to deal using credit card transactions. I personally haven't come across a single supplier that takes credit cards. I get what you mean (and I know you said you didn't write this), but in reality it's just not do-able. My best guess is you gotta spend some time on the board(s) until you hear enough positive feedback on certain suppliers and then trust that the fellow members are leading you in the right direction. There is just an inherent risk in these types of transactions until you get your bearings. That's my 2¢. Everything else, like I said... looks on point to me.