Montego Trest Experiment

[Montego]

I started a Trest cycle about 10 days ago. I'll update what's happened during this time when I have a minute tomorrow or tonight.

Cycle is -

50mg Trest Acetate Eod

50mg Test Prop EOD

. 5mg adex ED

I'll adjust the trest up a little after I see how things will go.

I'll be carb cycling. Looking for quality increase in lbm but shedding a little fat too.

Non training days -

Meal 1 -

6 whole eggs

5 whites

Meal 2 -

4 boiled eggs

4oz home made jerky

Meal 3 -

10oz chicken breast

1c greens

1/4 cup almonds

Meal 4 -

50g whey

1tbsp on

Meal 5 -

10oz chicken

1c greens

2tbsp EVOO

Meal 6 -

4 boiled eggs

1 avocado

Meal 7 -

10oz chicken

1c greens

Meal 8 -

10oz flank

2c greens

1tbsp evoo

Training Days -

Same as above besides meals 4-6

Meal 4 -

Intra shake

60g hbcd, 20g eaa, 5g creatine, 2g CM, 5g Glutamine

Meal 5 -

Post workout

2c whites

1c blueberries

1/2c oats

Meal 6 -

10oz chicken

250g whites Rice

I will run 3-4 days as above then load.

On loading days carbs will start at 500g and all fats taken out.

Training is Fortitude Training. Hit everything 3x a week besides biceps with low volume.

Upper Loading/Lower Pump

Rest

Lower Loading/Upper Pump

Rest

Upper Muscle Rounds

Lower Muscle Rounds

Rest

Starting pic is from start of cycle. Was sitting around 238-240 and 6 weeks off everything besides a 250mg test and 100mg Npp.
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[Hatebreed]

Right on brother trust and believe ill be reading along.
Ty

[Xraytek]

I’ll Ben following

[Gaynz37]

Following as well. I wanna see this Trest in action.

[allnattyjuice]

I just ordered some! Looking forward to ur log

[Robocop_9]

Following along


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[Montego]

So my experience this far (11 days) with the trest.

Not much the first few days. I did get a little extra water retention after my first load but it fell off a day later.

Around day 5,i found notice a slight increase in fullness and a definite increase in sweating. I would compare it to tren in the sweat department but for different reasons. Holding that extra bit of water is gonna make you sweat more, not from heat.

Now day 7 gets interesting. I am A VERY calm person. I don't get moody and I think through situations pretty well before acting. On day 7 I had a fit of depression. Just A REALLY bad day where everything and everyone sucked. Not normal, even on high doses of tren or anything else.

Day 8 - all good. No mood swings. Fullness is even better.

Day 9 - Like day 7, really bad day again. Tren type jealously I've heard people talk about but never experienced myself. Almost made a rash decision over something very little in my personal life.

Day 10 - Better but still a bit moody. I can notice increased fullness a lot now. Very round and vascular during the day. Weight hovering about 244 which is 4lbs over starting weight. Little water but not too too much.

Day 11 - today. Good mood. Fullness is there and I'm up a bit from my load yesterday. Little more water then I typically hold after a load. Strength got better today too. No huge jump but an extra rep or two from cruise sets 3 weeks ago in certain exercises.

[korsaire]

is it me or .5 arimidex a day is a lot

[Montego]

is it me or .5 arimidex a day is a lotNot when running trest. It aromitase SO MUCH that this type of dose is actually needed. I'll have bloowork pulled but all the log/bloods I've seen of guys running similar doses across the board, e2 was just in range.

But, to your point, yes that's a lot of adex in general. I'll have a hard time judging my lipids when I bloods pulled.... Won't know if it's the trest or the adex causing the elevation.

[allnattyjuice]

.5 doesn't seem like that much to me.

[Montego]

Bumped the trest up to 75mg EOD today.

Also added in 25mg Proviron ED.

Popped .5mg Caber two days ago to see if it would help with the emotional aspect as well. Think it may have cause my mood has gotten noticeably better yesterday and today.

Now we're running -

175mg Prop EW
262mg TREST EW
25mg Proviron ED
.5mg ADEX ED

[Montego]

Pretty sore today.

No training so minimal carbs

5 whole eggs
1c whites

9oz chicken
1c greens
1/4c almonds

70g whey
2tbsp pb

9oz turkey breast
1c greens
2tbsp evoo

8oz 96/4 beef
2c greens
1/4c almonds

10oz flank
1c greens
1 avocado

Also had

5 boiled eggs
6oz home made beef pectoral meat jerky

As two snacks

[Montego]

Early start today.

4 whole eggs

Drank the cup of whites

Trying to use up all the damn paper plates left over from my wife's party yesterday lol

I MIGHT be going back to cereal post workout.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/5d7eba51d504bd03084b810dcbcecace.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/968ccbef54a37808afebfddb7cc4c473.jpg

[Montego]

Little fuller today.

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[Montego]

2nd post workout meal.

225g Jasmine rice

8oz chicken

Ketchup https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/e11c61b9829b59786e516d16fd613f9e.jpg

[joko123]

Early start today.

4 whole eggs

Drank the cup of whites

Trying to use up all the damn paper plates left over from my wife's party yesterday lol

I MIGHT be going back to cereal post workout.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/5d7eba51d504bd03084b810dcbcecace.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/968ccbef54a37808afebfddb7cc4c473.jpg

I've done rice , sweet potatoes , simple surgery carbs like cereal or pancakes post workout I think that's the only period where carb source doesn't matter , all the matters is replenishing glycogen stores as quick as possible.

Nice log so far brother very detailed


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[Montego]

I've done rice , sweet potatoes , simple surgery carbs like cereal or pancakes post workout I think that's the only period where carb source doesn't matter , all the matters is replenishing glycogen stores as quick as possible.

Nice log so far brother very detailed


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah I only use cereal post workout. Been doing that going on about a year now mixed with egg whites.

Easy, quick and, it let's me get another meal in quickly since it's digested pretty fast.

I'll have about 75g carbs from the cereal with 40g protein from the eggs then, 80-160g carbs from rice about an hour later. Has worked pretty well to this point.

[Hatebreed]

Montego, good log my brother, I appreciate your time and thouroughnes.

[max562]

disciplined meal prep great...i wish I had the time...im on the boat now...mine for next couple dayshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/5d9085141e475ee021167faaa7b17542.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/e66a2716d70d32a79323d7b71a357419.jpg

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[Montego]

Montero, good log my brother, I appreciate your time and thouroughnes.Thanks sir. I enjoy logging and sharing info. That's what it's all about in my book.
disciplined meal prep great...i wish I had the time...im on the boat now...mine for next couple dayshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/5d9085141e475ee021167faaa7b17542.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171105/e66a2716d70d32a79323d7b71a357419.jpg

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using TapatalkI stay pretty strict on Prepping. I'll have off plan meals once or twice a week but, usually it's groundhog day.

Is that stir fry? Looks like a curry almost.

[max562]

That's lean beef and sweet potatoes and brocolli....... gruel.....it's filling..eat over and over again[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Montego]

That's lean beef and sweet potatoes and brocolli....... gruel.....it's filling..eat over and over again[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSounds like something I would do myself lol.

[Montego]

Day 14.

Upped the trest to 75mg Saturday.

I have NEVER had pumps like I've had the last two sessions. Not on anything and, I'm a couple weeks off gh so that's impressive.

To this point, I would compare trest to a super charged NPP. Very full and round with a little more water like Deca but VERY fast acting.

Strength gains haven't been big but minor. Cardio seems normal.

I have been getting night sweats since increasing the dose. Not quite as bad as tren but close.

Hunger has increased a bit.

So far I'm enjoying this. Pretty fun little compound.

And it's only week 2.

[allnattyjuice]

So still at 75 eod or ed?

[Montego]

So still at 75 eod or ed?Went from 50mg EOD to 75mg EOD on Saturday so today was my second pin.

Also, Sex drive is fucking unstoppable. Hammering the wife every day the last few days and still horny as fuck lol.

[Radman69]

Interestinrg log my friend! I remember when u repped for a company no longer on the boards! Following along, looks like fun!

[Montego]

Interestinrg log my friend! I remember when u repped for a company no longer on the boards! Following along, looks like fun!Is been a fun little cycle so far! Thanks.

Some 90/10 grass fed ground sirloin for a couple meals.

Got this instead of 96/4 ground beef since it's a bit more flavorful. More expensive too... Some chicken as well. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/6a1195848585ee18244290f3d83045b4.jpg
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[tcinbc66]

Sounds like that is reason enough to up the dosage!



Went from 50mg EOD to 75mg EOD on Saturday so today was my second pin.

Also, Sex drive is fucking unstoppable. Hammering the wife every day the last few days and still horny as fuck lol.

[superdrolgyno]

Any update on the mental sides you were having?

[Montego]

Sounds like that is reason enough to up the dosage!You got that right! Lol
Any update on the mental sides you were having?Oh yes actually.

I dunno if I posted it here but, I popped half a MG of Caber the day after my last "mood swing" to see if prolactin could possibly be an issue.

I've never had problems with prolactin and that dose of Caber probably wouldn't make a difference that quickly but, the days after have been VERY good. I'm going to go a week and see if it occurs again and if so, try the Caber one more time.

Like I said, it could have been placebo, I could have just been going through manopause or it MAY have helped. Time will tell though.

[Montego]

So the changes have started to pick up.

I'm a little over 2 weeks in now and it's starting to become apparent. Not in just how I feel, but I LOOK like I'm on again.

Vascular, full, bubbly almost? I'm holding a little water sure but, I'm back to as full as I was during my last blast in only 2 weeks..... Pretty surprised.

Strength was improved today and this is the first big jump. I've had subtle increases but today was a bit more.

Sex drive is still crazy.

Night sweats still there but not tren like yet.

Cardio seems decreased.... With the weight added this quickly I'm not surprised.

Hunger is there but not like mk, ghrp6 or EQ.

That's about it for today.

[Montego]

12 day comparison. Start on left day 12 on right.

Not big changes but, a little tighter and fuller, mostly in the chest, on the right..... Weird since I'm holding more water then I was in the starting picture.

For only 12 days that's pretty acceptable. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/aedca45f5b15b46a6ef5aa17b3c941e6.jpg

[Themaskedrider]

Great log bro! I’ll be following. Only 12 days in and looking good! I? think .5mg adex/day is low compared to what I’ve read on others using trest. I’m interested to see what your labs say. Get it bro!


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[Montego]

Great log bro! I’ll be following. Only 12 days in and looking good! I? think .5mg adex/day is low compared to what I’ve read on others using trest. I’m interested to see what your labs say. Get it bro!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMy test dose is a bit lower then most I've seen so I'm thinking I'll be ok. If not, I'll throw some Aromasin in the mix. So far it seems adequate though.

Welcome aboard!

[70jd]

Went from 50mg EOD to 75mg EOD on Saturday so today was my second pin.

Also, Sex drive is fucking unstoppable. Hammering the wife every day the last few days and still horny as fuck lol.I was thinking 350mg trest per week, but you had this experience so far (till Sat) at only 175 mg a week??? Good grief that's wild.

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[Montego]

I was thinking 350mg trest per week, but you had this experience so far (till Sat) at only 175 mg a week??? Good grief that's wild.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using TapatalkYes sir. I'm probably going to drop test even lower next week. Maybe totally remove it and see what happens.

[70jd]

Yes sir. I'm probably going to drop test even lower next week. Maybe totally remove it and see what happens.I would feel good about doing that because trest is a good TRT drug (why it was designed as I understand it). But I'd be sure and phase test back in at the end, nothing worse than no test. I'm an authority on that having had 46 total test a couple years ago. It was not a good life!
Are you thinking about dropping test and raising trest? Maybe 50mg ED?

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[Montego]

I would feel good about doing that because trest is a good TRT drug (why it was designed as I understand it). But I'd be sure and phase test back in at the end, nothing worse than no test. I'm an authority on that having had 46 total test a couple years ago. It was not a good life!
Are you thinking about dropping test and raising trest? Maybe 50mg ED?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using TapatalkYeah I would slam some prop at the tail end so I didn't crash too hard.

Honestly I don't think I need to raise the trest dose at all. Test is at a dose now where it's not really going to increase gains in lean body mass. More or less, it's just there to keep from possibly feeling like dog shit. If I reduced test, I doubt I would see much of anything change in body comp improvement besides maybe a little water loss.

[70jd]

That sounds reasonable. I was just thinking if you dropped the test altogether you might want to make it up with a little more trest, but it might be wise to not. If the gains are there why risk sides with higher dose? I'm glad you're doing this, and methodically.

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[Montego]

Tried something different with my load.

Over 1k carbs but kept fats high...... Meh spilled pretty hard. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/be952395114eada3cc592b0f77f66fbc.jpg

[Montego]

Trest you are a strange bitch....

So I loaded without taking fats out the other day and spilled pretty hard. Usually it takes five days to get the water off when I do that.... NOPE 2 days.

WTF!

245 today after hitting 249ish the day after..... So I dunno what that means honestly. What I DO know is I'll try my load without fat and see what we get.

I suppose this is the tren type aspect I hear about? Maybe.....

One thing. Alpha feeling is strong with this one.... I talked about Sex drive already but, i haven't been as patient with things lately lol. It's not a mean feeling but more of a fuck what you think feels [emoji6]

[BIGCASPER]

In your pics looks like you are getting leaner?

[Radman69]

Sounds like maybe the trest is keeping u pretty damn full! Love it bro! Keep grindin!

[Montego]

In your pics looks like you are getting leaner?Well until my last load yeah. Next updates should be a little more telling.
Sounds like maybe the trest is keeping u pretty damn full! Love it bro! Keep grindin!Well yeah, I'm staying full all the time which is why when I spilled so hard from my load I thought it was going to take a while longer to pull that water off... Nope lol

[Radman69]

Whats your water intake look like on the daily monty?

[Montego]

Whats your water intake look like on the daily monty?Maybe a gallon and a half?

Quite a bit of that is crystal light though because plain water is boring af

[Montego]

Something new on the menu today... Eggs! [emoji6]

Upper loading

Lat pull down machine - 270*12, 270*10

Underhand low cable row- 14*11

Incline Bb - 275*7

Fly press - 190*10

Lateral - 35*11, 50 partials

Shoulder press machine - 220*11

Dip - 260*9, 260*7

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[Montego]

Update time.

Almost 3 weeks in now.

Things seem to be leveling out a bit. I'm still seeing changes almost daily but they are smaller and not quite as Drastic.

Sex drive is still very good but, has leveled back out a bit.

Still very full all day even on my lower carb days.

Night sweats seem to have subsided a bit but I do feel like my cardio has suffered some. This could be from the added weight though and the fact I haven't done cardio in over a year.

The depression sides haven't came back. Pretty much the opposite lately with increased confidence and a little Swagger lol.

I'm not holding nearly the amount of water I've heard reports of. I don't typically get a lot of carbs often, I load them up around training and almost none on off days but, I will load once or twice a week outside of my regular set up. When I do load, I notice extra bloat I wouldn't typically get so, this makes me think that the water complaints come from guys who are eating more carbs more often. Typical with a "wet" compound.

One thing I'm not impressed with are strength gains. I didn't expect big jumps in numbers but, I'm holding about the same as I was during my cruise. Not that I care a lot but, I do believe in progressive overload and things that help me achieve those goals are always at the top of my list.

One thing that's surprising is I'm seeing a little tren like body recomp... Not nearly on the level of a typical tren cycle but more along a low dose tren e ran with test and Deca cycle.

So far I'd compare trest to a super charged npp with low dose tren.... To be that's pretty spot on BESIDES the strength increases.

[joko123]

Something new on the menu today... Eggs! [emoji6]

Upper loading

Lat pull down machine - 270*12, 270*10

Underhand low cable row- 14*11

Incline Bb - 275*7

Fly press - 190*10

Lateral - 35*11, 50 partials

Shoulder press machine - 220*11

Dip - 260*9, 260*7

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Man I live eggs, I have 2 egg meals each 13 egg whites and a yolk. Easy to cook, cheap as hell and digest really well. It's a win win win win


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[montego1]

Seems like my account is messed up. Password isn't working so I'm waiting for admin to get back with me.

[montego1]

This lighting is less forgiving. More of what I really look like..... No cheap shadows playing tricks lol. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/4108f53c032c5194caaf108b864b81a3.jpg

[Montego]

Issues have been solved.

Ty!

[Montego]

Update time.

Almost 3 weeks in now.

Things seem to be leveling out a bit. I'm still seeing changes almost daily but they are smaller and not quite as Drastic.

Sex drive is still very good but, has leveled back out a bit.

Still very full all day even on my lower carb days.

Night sweats seem to have subsided a bit but I do feel like my cardio has suffered some. This could be from the added weight though and the fact I haven't done cardio in over a year.

The depression sides haven't came back. Pretty much the opposite lately with increased confidence and a little Swagger lol.

I'm not holding nearly the amount of water I've heard reports of. I don't typically get a lot of carbs often, I load them up around training and almost none on off days but, I will load once or twice a week outside of my regular set up. When I do load, I notice extra bloat I wouldn't typically get so, this makes me think that the water complaints come from guys who are eating more carbs more often. Typical with a "wet" compound.

One thing I'm not impressed with are strength gains. I didn't expect big jumps in numbers but, I'm holding about the same as I was during my cruise. Not that I care a lot but, I do believe in progressive overload and things that help me achieve those goals are always at the top of my list.

One thing that's surprising is I'm seeing a little tren like body recomp... Not nearly on the level of a typical tren cycle but more along a low dose tren e ran with test and Deca cycle.

So far I'd compare trest to a super charged npp with low dose tren.... To be that's pretty spot on BESIDES the strength increases.

[allnattyjuice]

Would u run any oral with this?
I have some sdrol lying around n was gonna use it with trest/test

[Montego]

Would u run any oral with this?
I have some sdrol lying around n was gonna use it with trest/testNot a strong one.

Maybe a dht like winny/var/Proviron but something that's gonna pack on even more water I would stay away from.

Trest already blows you up quick and I would guess BP issues would be pretty rough.

[Weapon X]

I've enjoyed your log and experience with this compound as I'd thought about running this myself in a few months.

[Radman69]

This lighting is less forgiving. More of what I really look like..... No cheap shadows playing tricks lol. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/4108f53c032c5194caaf108b864b81a3.jpg

looking solid Monty!

[Montego]

looking solid Monty!Thank you sir!

Hopefully I keep the scale climbing without getting too sloppy. I want to hit 260 with this current condition before I start my next prep.

At the enf of my last run i topped at 255 but was a little softer. Once gh gets put back in along with slin, I should be close.

[Montego]

Gonna be dropping test down to 30mg eod starting this week.

No reason in particular just seeing how I feel when I do that.

[Montego]

Upper Muscle Rounds

2 count hold on every rep.... Stupid.

Close grip pull down - 14 plates x23

Standing close grip row to chest - 15*29(these aren't a good muscle Round exercise but, I feel them better then any other movement)

Viz dead - 315*24

Cybex chest press - 100kg*24

Cable fly press - 140*27

Delt destroyer - 30*60, 15*30, 10*15

Reverse Pec deck - 160*23

Reverse press down - 11*27

Pump was plain silly. I've never had pumps like this.... Slin, gh, SD, DBOL whatever. Nothing.

[superdrolgyno]

Thank you for this log

[Montego]

250g Jasmine rice

200g 96/4 ground beef https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171114/c205415231345ca8e64ebddf85114ab9.jpg

[Montego]

Thank you for this logAbsolutely!

[Montego]

No training today.

I've had a pretty bad headache the last couple days but, my BP has been in normal range every morning and afternoon so I figured it wasn't that.

So today I tested it when the headache started and it was elevated. Not a lot but high. This is the second time on cycle that it's tested high and I have had a high BP mark maybe 5 times in the last year even in higher doses of tren and orals.

I would say that trest DEFINITELY will aggravate blood pressure. If you have issues with other anabolics and BP, I would be very careful if you choose to run trest.

[Radman69]

No training today.

I've had a pretty bad headache the last couple days but, my BP has been in normal range every morning and afternoon so I figured it wasn't that.

So today I tested it when the headache started and it was elevated. Not a lot but high. This is the second time on cycle that it's tested high and I have had a high BP mark maybe 5 times in the last year even in higher doses of tren and orals.

I would say that trest DEFINITELY will aggravate blood pressure. If you have issues with other anabolics and BP, I would be very careful if you choose to run trest.

Thanks for the info Monty! Hope all is well on your end!

[Montego]

No headaches today so that's a plus.

I've decided today will be the last shot of test I take until the final week so I can see how I'm feeling with just trest.

I'll have bloowork done some time in there after the prop is good and clear for my trt visit.

Sweating has picked back up. Pretty heavy too. Night sweats are back and I'm getting pretty rank during the day.

[Montego]

Lower muscle rounds

Calf Raise - 120kg x 26, 24, 22, 21, 21
Low close leg press - 250kg x29, 24
Sldl - 235*26
Split Squat - 40*22
Drag curl - 115*24, 22

Followed each body part with loaded stretches for thirty seconds.

Strength is still level. Pumps are still silly. Sweat is getting worse. Mood is pretty stable in the good area. Appetite has been great. No increase or decrease just my regular which is perfect.

Pulling test for the remainder.

[Montego]

Last meal of today.

250g 96/4 ground beef

1 avocado

Ketchup

Broccolihttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/c0ef4994723d22e6c147b90982361449.jpg

[Montego]

4 week comparison. Starting picture on left, today on right. Up right at 10lbs. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/0e6ea3914a7cc6bb963628205c928e47.jpg

[allnattyjuice]

How's the no test? Looking great brother

[Montego]

How's the no test? Looking great brotherOnly a couple days into it so can't really say.

So far no difference though.

Thank you!

[Montego]

The update.

5 days removed from a 30mg prop injection with trest staying the same.

I've been very tired the last two days. Headaches. No drive. Slept all day yesterday and most of today until I got up for work this afternoon.

This could be mental but I think it's just my test crashing. Even at the dose I was on I wasn't super elevated but at this point I'm sure I'm under 500ng.

I'm leaving the test out though until I get bloods next week.

This week will be a cruise week in training and diet won't be as strict with the holiday and everything going on. I'm gonna add some bloat but I'll try to keep it minimal. Will probably fast from tomorrow afternoon until dinner on Thursday to help some.

[Montego]

Had a good holiday. Ate too much. Holding a ton of water.

Taking it easy this week since I needed a little break. Mentally I've been unmotivated so it was time.

Gonna have bloowork done next week I think. Should be a good time to hit em up.

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[Primemuscle]

4 week comparison. Starting picture on left, today on right. Up right at 10lbs. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/0e6ea3914a7cc6bb963628205c928e47.jpg

Looking solid man. Legit gains. Keep doing work


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[joko123]

I always pull my test st week 8 when doing a show and have always felt great other then your typical prep run down


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[Montego]

I always pull my test st week 8 when doing a show and have always felt great other then your typical prep run down


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI pulled mine just to see how the trest would make me feel on its own and, even though I'm not totally in the shitter, I'm having some low test sides.

I'm sure I'll adapt and feel fine but that low dose of test did make a difference I suppose.

I pull test around 3 weeks out pre contest and don't really notice it either cause I already feel crappy lol.

[Montego]

Trained today.

My cardio is dog shit right now. I dunno if it's from the trest or because I haven't done ANY cardio in over a year but, it's pretty terrible.

Sweat like a pig in the gym but pumps were painfully good. Weight this morning was 249 lbs but I'm holding a ton of water. I added gh back in 4 days so at 4iu Ed and my hands are very swollen.

Lower loading

Safety bar squat - 405*12, 405*11, 405*11, 225*20 (widow maker)

Sldl cables - 200*12, 200*11

Leg extension - 210*11

Upper pump stuff after

[Montego]

Upper Muscle Rounds

Lat Pd Machine - 240*24, 250*22
Rack Dead - 495*22
Low cable row to neck - 11*23

Incline hammer - 290*23
Flat machine press (holding deep stretch on rest) - 110kg*22

Face pull - 90*23
Seated Incline front raise - 40*23

Overhead triceps press - 110*22
Rope extension widow maker - 90*20

Strength still pretty normal.
Pumps are still very good.
I'm bloated as fuck from adding in growth but hammering water to flush it.
Sex drive is down a bit since I've taken test out. It's "normal" now.
Sweating a ton at night, probably from growth water coupled with the trest.
Mood has been good. Not irritable or anything but I do seem a bit more tired lately.

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[Montego]

I'm gonna write up a complete review on trest here shortly. I'm prolonging this cycle a bit so I can have blood work pulled for one but, I wanna see what week's 7-8 have in store for me.

I'm thinking I'll stall out of start seeing some sides but I dunno.

[macedog24]

I'm gonna write up a complete review on trest here shortly. I'm prolonging this cycle a bit so I can have blood work pulled for one but, I wanna see what week's 7-8 have in store for me.

I'm thinking I'll stall out of start seeing some sides but I dunno.In for the win! Always for a monty review.

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[Montego]

Going back to my typical diet. Kinda keto kinda not. No carbs besides intra and post training.

Found new York strip on sale for $4 a lb today.

Jasmine rice with chicken bouillon and olive oil. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171201/bcd0270f1d8f3a422171415c2d98dc06.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171201/9d9891214a26d55524822cc1bc0c7e64.jpg

[Montego]

Upper loading

Bb row - 285*12, 305*9, 305*7

Bb bench - 285*9, 285*7

Reverse shoulder press machine - 340*9, 340*8

Overhead triceps press - 185*8, 185*6

[GurthQuake]

I’ve been looking all over for this..... Can’t find it any where . I noticed a time it two now I can’t find it?

[Montego]

I’ve been looking all over for this..... Can’t find it any where . I noticed a time it two now I can’t find it?Looking for what brother?

The bouillon? Is in a brown jar around the broth in the store or, in he Mexican section.

There is beef, chicken and tomato.

[allnattyjuice]

I’ve been looking all over for this..... Can’t find it any where . I noticed a time it two now I can’t find it?

I think purple panda has some

[Montego]

I think purple panda has someOh if he's talking about trest, I got mine from a private source but, ppl and psl both have it I believe yes.

Never used either though.

[allnattyjuice]

Oh if he's talking about trest, I got mine from a private source but, ppl and psl both have it I believe yes.

Never used either though.

Love that private [emoji4]

[Montego]

Been kinda shitty the last few days.

I am convinced that trest needs a test base along side it in MY case.

Since pulling test I have slowly gotten more and more tired with the last two days spending every minute asleep when I wasn't at work. Today I got around 12 hours of sleep and yesterday I slept another 10-12. Now given, my work schedule has been bad but it still didn't get to the level where I need that much sleep.

My sex drive with test in the mix was amazing. After removing it, it went to normal at first. Now it's in the gutter. Erection quality and sustainably has dropped noticeably as well.

My mental state is pretty average... But I have much less drive at this point to do anything... Like train. Didn't train yday or today as I was supposed to.

I'm adding prop back in starting today at 50mg like I had originally and will see if that makes a change which I know it will.

[Radman69]

Very interesting... thanks for doing this bro! Learning alot about trest... hopefully he get things worked out with the test dose and start feeling up!

[G160]

Been kinda shitty the last few days.

I am convinced that trest needs a test base along side it in MY case.

Since pulling test I have slowly gotten more and more tired with the last two days spending every minute asleep when I wasn't at work. Today I got around 12 hours of sleep and yesterday I slept another 10-12. Now given, my work schedule has been bad but it still didn't get to the level where I need that much sleep.

My sex drive with test in the mix was amazing. After removing it, it went to normal at first. Now it's in the gutter. Erection quality and sustainably has dropped noticeably as well.

My mental state is pretty average... But I have much less drive at this point to do anything... Like train. Didn't train yday or today as I was supposed to.

I'm adding prop back in starting today at 50mg like I had originally and will see if that makes a change which I know it will.Do you think that there is a chance this might be estrogenic in nature?

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[Montego]

Do you think that there is a chance this might be estrogenic in nature?

Sent from my SM-G550T1 using TapatalkNo.

I had bloods done while I was on trest along with test and e2 was slightly elevated but not crazy.

I haven't increased trest at all and removed test completely while keeping adex at half a MG.

I think it's just more proof that nothing is an all around replacement for testosterone.

[Radman69]

No.

I had bloods done while I was on trest along with test and e2 was slightly elevated but not crazy.

I haven't increased trest at all and removed test completely while keeping adex at half a MG.

I think it's just more proof that nothing is an all around replacement for testosterone.

this is my assumption as well, master hormone for a reason!

[G160]

No.

I had bloods done while I was on trest along with test and e2 was slightly elevated but not crazy.

I haven't increased trest at all and removed test completely while keeping adex at half a MG.

I think it's just more proof that nothing is an all around replacement for testosterone.I can completely agree with that

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[Montego]

New phone means new camera..... I guess this one filters my screen shots automatically? Dunno. Anyways.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/2b3ad6ffec1c795079a6628c1b7fc8cd.jpg

[Montego]

Maybe this works? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/4c807fcb93b6a866fed63c49db03e150.jpg

[Montego]

Cholesterol for dayshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/abc515b6af5d48545efc29b138edfdcf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/7113e1e660049b0d7a73463ef361d46c.jpg

[Radman69]

Cholesterol for dayshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/abc515b6af5d48545efc29b138edfdcf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/7113e1e660049b0d7a73463ef361d46c.jpg

nice dude! like 60-70g of fats right there budd!

[Montego]

nice dude! like 60-70g of fats right there budd!I eat about a dozen eggs every day and have been doing so for a long while.

Last blast, test tren Deca, lipids were in perfect range at week 16 [emoji16]

Eggs are bad for you my ass lol

[joko123]

I eat about a dozen eggs every day and have been doing so for a long while.

Last blast, test tren Deca, lipids were in perfect range at week 16 [emoji16]

Eggs are bad for you my ass lol

God bless I struggle to keep mine when I'm cruising lol eggs are my go to as well sit real well in stomach. I do a dozen at a time too I just use less yolks

Looking awesome in your latest update pics brother keep on progressing


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[Montego]

God bless I struggle to keep mine when I'm cruising lol eggs are my go to as well sit real well in stomach. I do a dozen at a time too I just use less yolks

Looking awesome in your latest update pics brother keep on progressing


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThanks man.

Should be around another week on the trest and I'll be switching to high test with Deca and tren. It's treated me well in the past and since my "cruise" was pretty mild, should see some decent growth hopefully.

[G160]

Thanks man.

Should be around another week on the trest and I'll be switching to high test with Deca and tren. It's treated me well in the past and since my "cruise" was pretty mild, should see some decent growth hopefully.High test deca and high tren is the preworkout of the gods...

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[G160]

God bless I struggle to keep mine when I'm cruising lol eggs are my go to as well sit real well in stomach. I do a dozen at a time too I just use less yolks

Looking awesome in your latest update pics brother keep on progressing


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLucky...i got a nasty roid rash from eating eggs i guess i ate too many my body is allergic, best way to fill your protein needs tho

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[Montego]

My pcp called with my testosterone results and total was at 270. That's actually higher then I would have guessed but he said it's "low normal".... Ha!

His idea of normal and mine are far different lol

[Montego]

Exciting! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/9f58d6e7dcce35e301a22718013aa6a5.jpg

[Montego]

Haven't been posting my workout cause it's not really important to the reader really.

Today was lower muscle rounds.

Some Calf Raise, low wide leg press, seated hamstring curls, split Squats, Adductor machine, seated palm up curls, hammer hex curls (fuuuuuuuck these are not fun)

Everything was taken to negative eccentric failure after concentric failure.

[G160]

Haven't been posting my workout cause it's not really important to the reader really.

Today was lower muscle rounds.

Some Calf Raise, low wide leg press, seated hamstring curls, split Squats, Adductor machine, seated palm up curls, hammer hex curls (fuuuuuuuck these are not fun)

Everything was taken to negative eccentric failure after concentric failure.Well if you not feeling lasy you can post it from now and then ive been reading, learn something new on splits and routines

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[joko123]

Haven't been posting my workout cause it's not really important to the reader really.

Today was lower muscle rounds.

Some Calf Raise, low wide leg press, seated hamstring curls, split Squats, Adductor machine, seated palm up curls, hammer hex curls (fuuuuuuuck these are not fun)

Everything was taken to negative eccentric failure after concentric failure.

Muscle rounds were something that was new to me until a few weeks ago , I've really grown to like them. I hired a coach a couple weeks for his training methodology and he liked to incorporate them into training.


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[Montego]

Well if you not feeling lasy you can post it from now and then ive been reading, learn something new on splits and routines

Sent from my SM-G550T1 using TapatalkIn that case

Standing Calf Raise - 120x26, 23
Low wide leg press - 14 plates x23, 21, widowmaker 8 plates x29
Seated leg curl - 90*22
Split Squat - 110*23
Adductor - 90*22

I've been focusing on contracting the muscle much more the last month or so since strength has been down a bit.

This helps for a few weeks when I target strength again so I'm not recruiting just anything to move the weight.

Weights will go up quite a bit in the coming weeks though.

[Montego]

Faaaat https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171209/f50ceab226f181ac57e23ab265f2760c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171209/59ba3e0146b372fb9ace09f4ceca6e02.jpg

[joko123]

Faaaat https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171209/f50ceab226f181ac57e23ab265f2760c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171209/59ba3e0146b372fb9ace09f4ceca6e02.jpg

Shut up your not fat lol you've got you're Serratus in for crying out loud lol


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[Montego]

Shut up your not fat lol you've got you're Serratus in for crying out loud lol


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI guess the extra skin plays tricks on me

[Montego]

Yesterday's training upper muscle rounds.

Dual handle pull down - 140*24, 22
Close grip standing cable row - 180*24, 23

Incline Smith - 225*22, 21

Seated face pull - 90*22, 22
Mid Shrug - 80*23

Close grip bench - 185*22, 21

Still focusing mainly on squeezing right now. It's working cause I'm very a little soreness I'm not used to having.

[Montego]

So, 7 days after starting prop back at 50md eod I feel MUCH better.

I felt a difference almost immediately but didn't say anything because, well, science? Lol I wanted to make sure placebo didn't come into it the best I could. I think at this point the prop has had enough time to really make a difference and has.

[Montego]

Coming to the end here soon.

Sex drive is returning nicely the last couple days.

Gym performance is still average. Nothing ground breaking there still. Pumps that were debilitating when starting trest are just good now.

I've reached the point where noticeable progress has pretty much stopped and this means it's time to move on.

I'll write my full review in the coming days but I will say, I've enjoyed my experiment a lot.

[Montego]

Final Review

This was a fun little experiment Ill admit. I started with 50mg Trest Ace and 50mg Test prop EOD then switched to 75/50 2 weeks in. At week 5 I dropped test completely and continued the Trest at 75mg EOD until a little over ago (2 weeks total) when i added prop back in at 50mg.

Weight gain was pretty rapid. Surprisingly it was also not super watery either. I did keep a rather strict diet the entire time and finished up right at 10lbs and what looks like the same body fat. Now when I DID cheat or have some shitty food, water poured on me. I think that as long as users keep a strict diet and don't eat like shit, they will have great increases in intra muscular water along with some decent gains in lean tissue.

Strength stayed the same the entire time. I didnt have any increases or decreases but kept right about where I was during the first part of my cruise with test only. Ive heard of big jumps in strength with trest but, i dunno that its the hormone causing this, the increase in body weight or maybe other things used on cycle. For me, no changes here.

Mood was a bit wonky. At the start of the cycle I had some big mood swings. I had a couple days spread out there in weeks 2-4 where I almost felt like I was fighting off depression. This went away after the 2nd or third time and didnt return. Nothing changed just overall time on. Mood otherwise was very good. Plenty of drive while I had test in the mix and felt great. Almost like a Test and Dbol cycle if I could compare to anything.

Pumps were some of the best ive ever had. Painful to say the least. All day fullness and quite veiny too. Like i said, these are some of the best if not THE best pumps ive ever had period.

Cardio/Performance were impacted in my case. My cardio felt much the same as if I were on tren the final few weeks. Short of breath and easily winded. This impacted gym performance some but increased rest between sets fixed that easy enough.

Sex Drive was AMAZING while test was in the mix. Couldnt get enough and zero issues with erection quality or ability to have one. Really impressed with this aspect WITH test in the mix.

Body comp changes were also very good. This would be the tren like effect that trest carries with it. For the first few weeks I could see changes almost daily in body fat and lean tissue. Visiual changes that quick are hard to reproduce and tren ace is the only thing that comes close. Over eat on a training day, next day youre watery, day after your dry and full as fuck. Nutrient partioning is playing a big role there as I eluded to earlier with the pumps being so intense all the time.

Now the final few weeks i completely removed test to see what would happen and I am not too happy that I did. Cliff notes version since this is getting a little long winded -

Sex Drive Crashed

Energy Crashed

Strength - Little dip not much

Pumps down

Mood got worse and I was much easier to annoy then normal.

In short, I would recommend ALWAYS using a test base with Trest of 100-175mg. I chose prop ester since its easy to manipulate and since Trest Acetate was being injected every other day it fit nicely.

Overall I enjoyed Trest and I will use it again during cruise periods where I cut test down.

Now, I DONT believe this is some super drug that will make you huge and produce drastic LONG LASTING changes in body composition. To me it seems like its going to be much like a strong oral steroid where, you see major changes rapidly but, you also see those major changes leave rapidly as well. This is one of the reasons why I did choose to run it during a low test period before I started test at a higher dose to see if I could actually hold these gains or if they would dissapear anyways.

I would NOT recommend this to anyone who isnt VERY versed in AAS. I didnt have any issues with estrogen physically but, I did have mental sides from what Im sure was high E2. That being sai, I havent had bloods done yet (tomorrow I draw) to be sure or not. If trest really does aromitase like its said too, you could fuck up really easily and have a nightmare even with the acetate ester if you arent careful....I mean fuck, I ran 1mg of adex the entire time and I still felt like a girl at times.

I hope this was a good final review for you guys. PLEASE ask if i Missed something you are curious about. (NOT WHERE I GOT IT EITHER YOU BUMS)

[Delta5]

Excellent log and final review. I checked in here n there as I was interested in Trest. Well done Montego!!

[Montego]

Almost forgot comparison pics.

Right at a 10lb increase from the left. 7 weeks. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171213/9b974b6feb1575498de7f12e6cf33746.jpg

[Montego]

I enjoyed the log here guys.

Hopefully the members got some good info on a pretty hot hormone right now.

If anyone is interested, I may log my blast going into prep this coming year.

[allnattyjuice]

I enjoyed the log here guys.

Hopefully the members got some good info on a pretty hot hormone right now.

If anyone is interested, I may log my blast going into prep this coming year.

Hell yeah man this was a great log! Definitely would like to follow ur cut as well! Thanks Bro!

[Montego]

Lower loading today.

Safety Bar squat - 495*9, 465*9, 315*20(widowmaker)
Hamstring curl - 90*11, 90*11
Lunges - 185*10, 185*8
Upper pump after

Feeling stronger today for whatever reason. Still to early for the drugs to be kicked in but, was nice to get back under that much weight on Squats.

Rest tomorrow with low carbs and hopefully a nap.