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bigjay23
12-09-2017, 12:27 AM
What do you guys like running higher? And reasoning why I'd like to hear opinions for my next run


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superdrolgyno
12-09-2017, 12:29 AM
Low test and high tren keep my blood pressure normal. But makes me very flat

bigjay23
12-09-2017, 12:36 AM
Would you feel like you make more gains off the higher tren also?


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grademan
12-09-2017, 02:25 AM
Higher test. Tren little lower. But I have never done low test high tren. May try next cycle. Everyone is different so gotta find that sweet spot

350zsidewayzz
12-09-2017, 08:46 AM
I know Tren works good in the presence of estrogen so maybe high test but that doesn’t mean ur Tren can’t be higher that’s how I see it


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Sqwuidd
12-09-2017, 10:22 AM
1000 Test prop
800 Tren a
ED pinning
^ keeps levels stable and avoids sides


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Scuba Greaves
12-10-2017, 05:06 AM
Holy shit, I'm on 700mg prop/wk + 350 tren ace . Just started. Is that ridiculous? Do I need to pump those tren #s and test #s down?

Hatebreed
12-10-2017, 05:35 AM
1000 Test prop
800 Tren a
ED pinning
^ keeps levels stable and avoids sides


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And that's how a squidd becomes the craken.
Lol

Vision
12-10-2017, 02:45 PM
depends.. if I run low test, I toss in npp to keep the muscle belly more full, tren will flatten my out quick..for the most part test is almost always at a gram..

Radman69
12-10-2017, 03:35 PM
off season(my actual cycle right now): higher test lower tren( 700/200)
Pre contest: higher Tren lower test(usually 400/200)

added compounds other than those two vary, right now im running EQ with the tren E and Test at a modest 300mg... last contest prep i used 400trenA/200testcyp(my pharma dose) and EQ at 150mgs

this seems to work well for me, limit side effects, feel great, and still get the results im after.

ski748134
12-10-2017, 04:05 PM
Higher tren low test so much better didn't buy into it for so long but love it now usually don't go over 400mg test even with deca and other compounds low test.....for me I run .y test low and when I switch to cruise my body has a much easier time adapting...i ran 300mg test c 900mg deca a.d worked like a champ

Newgoal285
12-11-2017, 02:09 AM
Haven’t tried tren higher than test, always did the opposite. Gonna have to try it soon


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dogomadness
12-22-2017, 08:45 AM
So which is best to kept your libido high while on tren ace?

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Primemuscle
12-22-2017, 12:56 PM
I’ve kept them even or test slight higher so when I run tren it’s usually 400mg tren & 400-500mg test


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wildcat03
12-22-2017, 05:12 PM
When I was cycling which I am not at this time I always ran test higher than tren. I get sides like not able to sleep, night sweats and agro all the time. 300 mg a week was about as much as I could handle. On TRT for now.

jinko
12-22-2017, 05:26 PM
I like tren e over tren a. I do higher tren low test. Used to do low tren high test, and got a ton of sides. Low test and high tren my side or minimal.

375mg or 500mg test cyp or e
600mg tren e

babybull34
12-22-2017, 05:27 PM
Higher tren low test so much better didn't buy into it for so long but love it now usually don't go over 400mg test even with deca and other compounds low test.....for me I run .y test low and when I switch to cruise my body has a much easier time adapting...i ran 300mg test c 900mg deca a.d worked like a champ

I'm of the same camp now, ski. For 15+ years I was a high test guy, 750mg was a minimum dose. After my surgeries and being on TRT I started cycling again about 2 years ago and went the low test route. Wish I had tried it years ago. Lower sides. Feel better. Great gains as long as my training and diet are on. I never thought I would say it but I am a low test believer now.

ski748134
12-22-2017, 06:08 PM
I used to run stupid doses of test and switching from being on cycle then cruising was always so difficult for me I get depressed feel like shit but for some reason if I only increase my cruise dose by about a 100 mg Max 200 mg per week I feel so much better I don't really Skip a beat

Primemuscle
12-22-2017, 06:08 PM
I'm of the same camp now, ski. For 15+ years I was a high test guy, 750mg was a minimum dose. After my surgeries and being on TRT I started cycling again about 2 years ago and went the low test route. Wish I had tried it years ago. Lower sides. Feel better. Great gains as long as my training and diet are on. I never thought I would say it but I am a low test believer now.

Solid insight B! Thanks for sharing. I only ran test at 600mg one time while blasting with tren and mast at 600mg as well and it was the shittiest I ever felt on a cycle. Ever since then my test never goes about 500mg, usually stays more towards 400mg and I’ve even had it as low as 300mg on blast.

I’ve found that in this game more never equates to more. Certain people respond differently to compounds and dosages so I’m not flaming or criticizing guys who run high dosages of stuff and get results. I’m only speaking for myself and what I’ve experienced working for myself. Because regardless of dosages or compounds; the gear doesn’t work unless we do. Like you said B if there’s a lack or diet or training then there will be no significant gains or rather desired gains. And in the end, regardless of dosages or compounds being used; we all want to gain as much quality lean muscle mass as possible based off of our individual goals


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2scoot
12-22-2017, 07:26 PM
I'm of the same camp now, ski. For 15+ years I was a high test guy, 750mg was a minimum dose. After my surgeries and being on TRT I started cycling again about 2 years ago and went the low test route. Wish I had tried it years ago. Lower sides. Feel better. Great gains as long as my training and diet are on. I never thought I would say it but I am a low test believer now.

Same here - 16 years ago running tren @ 100mg ED and T @ 2 g's a week - sides, mostly pumps were painful but the strength and size were unmatched. Lower back and calve pumps were so bad had to lay on my back until they subsided.
Those were the days....

Inmate666
12-23-2017, 07:56 AM
I've run it both ways and truthfully I love running Tren ace at roughly 75mg-100mg daily while keeping test no higher than 300mgs weekly. The only difference I've personally noticed is lower test equated to lower sides. The gains were pretty much the same no matter what I ran my test at. I'm at the point now where I put this into play with most all my cycles.

mychdz
12-23-2017, 11:45 PM
I’ve been curious to try it out personally but I have never gone high tren low test. I have always done higher test lower tren. Even if it meant 700 Test a week and 600 tren


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