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BIGBOSS
01-08-2012, 06:19 AM
I was considering running a test & tren cycle all year. Will this be okay? Or is it HIGHLY recommended to rest between cycles with some PCT?

Spawn
01-08-2012, 06:54 AM
Wow man thats insane. Firstly because tren is hard on the body and that long on it you WILL fuck yourself up in some or several ways. Cant you just run a 21 wk cycle and a few short ones? Or two 21 wk cycles and 1 short one. Cycling isnt only recomended just for keeping sides down it also gives your receptors time to clear. But tren for that long IMHO IS A BAAAD IDEAH. And i didnt mean 21wk tren cycle i meant a 21wk cycle with test being the base and adding the tren the last 12wks tops IMO. I dont know it all or claim to, there are many more guys here with more knowledge than me that will shed some more light on here for you so wish you luck brother!

BIGBOSS
01-08-2012, 07:01 AM
Thanks for the info. I definently want to keep it safe. I cycled on and off last year with many things and was considering running all year. I am glad i posted up before messing myself up. I guess it's a learning process. I know the BROTHERHOOD will point me in a safe healthy direction. Thanks bro!!!

Rmewrench
01-08-2012, 08:58 AM
BB why would you want to do this?? To keep gains?? Or just to try to keep gaining the whole time?? With my body, on long esters usually around 13, 14 weeks in I platuea. I dont know if you keep a training journal, but maybe run a cycle and keep track of your gains and when you stop gaining you know it's time to come down. Or run it our till you stop gaining, drop the tren, then lower test dose to a trt level and stay on, I'd only consider that based on age( I dont know how old you are). But if staying on is something you might want to do, then eventually you'll be looking at trt the rest of your life...Or look into some HGH if you want to be on so to speak. Like Smalls said Tren is harsh, I'd be really cuatious in running tren over 12-14 weeks.

ZOOT
01-08-2012, 10:31 AM
Bro, runnin tren imo for more than 10 weeks is rough, let alone a year. Besides the damage to your organs and shit.

psa5
01-08-2012, 10:52 AM
Brother, please do not do this! This isn't even a cycle, it's basically just "being on". You are more or less setting yourself up for nearly guaranteed TRT assistance once you come off. Even IF you didn't mind following the blast and cruise road, you would only run testosterone year round (at different dosages depending on if your blasting or cruising). You would never be able to maintain the trenabolone dosage your probably thinking of for more than 12+ weeks I'd say without taking a break from it, simply because your blood pressure would catch up to you and force you to stop.

I don't mean to shoot down your idea or show any disrespect, but the fact that you asked such a question makes me wonder if you would even be able to "self-medicate/moderate" yourself properly (ie. get proper blood work done periodically, recognize side effects, etc.) without professional supervision with such a "cycle". You can make excellent gains, maintain them, and quickly recover from 8-10 week cycles (I personally keep mine within 6-8 weeks max). With your diet and training on point, 2-3 medium cycles well keep you very pleased for recreational purposes IMO.

If you have anymore questions, feel free to PM me.

SPEEDY
01-08-2012, 12:05 PM
Yeah brother, tren is way too harsh to run for long periods. Are u running try?

gym66
01-08-2012, 02:47 PM
Im doing tren e 200mg 10wk test e 250mg 10wks then bumped it up to tren e 500mg/wk test e500mg/wk I will run it for 15wks. so test/tren 25 wks in all. then cruise for 6 months 250 test.

paolo123
01-08-2012, 03:20 PM
hell no

STEROID
01-08-2012, 03:27 PM
Listen to the others bro.52 week is not a cycle.its just never coming off.Especially with tren its a big no no.Not sure what your age or experience cycling is but early in the game you want to run cycles for 12-16 wks at most followed by a proper pct and then equal (if not more) time off.This is a game of longevity brother.Don't mess yourself up now only to hurt yourself either now or later in life.

Read up as much as you can and ask as many questions as you can.The most important thing with cycling is to take your time and do things right.

Pointer1
01-08-2012, 04:23 PM
I ran a 16 week test e/eq 750/600 immediately followed by an 8 week cut test p/tren a/mast p 100ea and anavar. I don't feel like I ever fully recovered even after taking 6 months off after an aggressive PCT. Unless you plan to blast and cruise forever I would break it down into stents. Only you know how your body reacts to compounds. Just be careful bro.

BIGBOSS
01-08-2012, 10:40 PM
thanks for everyones input. I definently won't be doing that. This is what the brotherhood is about. I really appreciate everyones suggestions and advice. Looks like just a lil test and some HGH year round.

SFGiants
01-08-2012, 11:32 PM
I never come off but I'm 43 and I do not run high dose all year long I blast and cruise.

Bro as for Tren I still refuse to run it because I have along been on aas around 3 years now and test still does a lot for me but with that said is and when I do try it the protocol is to run Tren Ace for no longer then 6 weeks.

BIGBOSS
01-09-2012, 01:24 PM
What if you dart everyother week for TREN. Is it still effective?

Rmewrench
01-09-2012, 01:37 PM
What if you dart everyother week for TREN. Is it still effective?

Are you talking about tren a or tren e?? Tren a will need to be pinned every other day. Tren e, I would recommend atleast twice a week, some guys say 3x week, some say once a week. You need to understand the ester and how it releases into your body. Frequency of pinning will help maintain blood levels. The ester will determine how often.

Patriot1405
01-09-2012, 02:04 PM
The longest I ran tren was 10 weeks.
Last 3 weeks bumped it to 700mgs. Side eventually caught up to me and had to come off. Trensomnia and elevated BP were my biggest problems. I'm 48 and on trt and I can tell you that my bloodwork came back with enzyme levels way out of range. Even while running milk thistle and liv52. I couldn't imagine the effect on the body running it all year. Short bursts with tren is definitely the way to go for me. Some of the younger guys might be able to push it to 12-14 weeks, but I would be leary!!

Rmewrench
01-09-2012, 02:41 PM
The longest I ran tren was 10 weeks.
Last 3 weeks bumped it to 700mgs. Side eventually caught up to me and had to come off. Trensomnia and elevated BP were my biggest problems. I'm 48 and on trt and I can tell you that my bloodwork came back with enzyme levels way out of range. Even while running milk thistle and liv52. I couldn't imagine the effect on the body running it all year. Short bursts with tren is definitely the way to go for me. Some of the younger guys might be able to push it to 12-14 weeks, but I would be leary!!

30-60mg of cialis a day and my blood pressure is perfect on cycle with tren, and I'm a walking boner.

rghtnow
01-09-2012, 02:53 PM
Def don't run the whole year with Tren no way...as for Test if you kept your doses moderate you could do it but that wouldn't be called a cycle....cycling implies you pedal for awhile then you take a break and rest, then pedal again Lolol
You'll make better long term gains with short moderate to heavy blasts then the appropriate off time to allow you to recover then begin again....you want to be here in the long run training into your 40's and 50's don't you??

FREEKSHOW
01-11-2012, 02:27 AM
hell noWell said!!!!!!!

animal87
01-11-2012, 03:04 AM
A 52 week cycle would be some hardcore stuff. You really need time for your body to recover and regulate itself back to normal. A moderate cycle with a good pct and a good amount of time to recover is defintely the best way to go.

BIGBOSS
01-11-2012, 03:19 AM
Thanks animal87 and Thanks to everyone who replied!!! I need to load up on some PCT gear. Any recommendations of what to use?

animal87
01-11-2012, 03:26 AM
I used novadex, aromisn and hcg in my last pct. It works pretty well I kept most of my gains.

Spawn
01-11-2012, 05:33 AM
Pct. Nolva 40/40/20/20 if u run clomid 100/100/50/50. I personally use just nolva. Howber if its a long cycle with moderate to high doses I'd definitely throw some hcg in there

Patriot1405
01-11-2012, 01:35 PM
30-60mg of cialis a day and my blood pressure is perfect on cycle with tren, and I'm a walking boner.

30-60 mg of cialis??? Holy shit, I usually take 10mg. Granted that's for sex and not BP. Shit 60mg of cialis, damn thats gotta be some hard on. I could probably throw a couple of plates on that puppy!! Lol

Laughter
07-21-2012, 12:56 AM
Theres use and abuse bro and That my broham is abuse.

Laughter
07-21-2012, 01:00 AM
Srry to ressurect a dead post but I'm glad you decide rather to properly use rather than to mess yourself up. Great plan of action.;)

ironman16
07-21-2012, 02:28 AM
been on for 5 years, blast and cruz..NEVER done a pct (46 years old), labs come back grade a every year. never will do tren, not my cup of tea, and i never do orals..i stick with test/deca/masteron, and change it up every 12 weeks - never had a problem.

Greenegorilla2
07-28-2012, 11:23 PM
No one knows actually what will happen, I think it's funny when people say that it will do so much damage, but in all actuality they have no fuckin clue, not even the slightest idea... Everyones opinion is based on opinions on opinions...if your on trt then. You are "on" year round 24/7... your still injecting exo test so to say that this is safe compared to a cycle is absolutely insane... It is the same thing... The only differece is the dosages and compounds. No one knows bud. Use at your own risk! Either 1g or 250 mg Ur running a risk either way! Damn.....

BigOldNorm
07-30-2012, 11:07 AM
No disrespect intended Greengorilla2, but I work with a lot of pros and so many retire or completely change the types and quantities of drugs they use, because your kidneys can only take so much abuse during your lifetime, and who in the hell would want to go from a 250lb bodybuilder to having to be on dialysis 3x a week until you can find a kidney donor. Steroids are only at most 15-20% of the formula for growing. Your diet,
training, and educating yourself about what you are putting in your body is important if you don't want to have a kidney transplant at 45 or 50 years old. I don't use anything except Test and EQ when I am on, but I keep my diet clean and eat 5000 calories daily, and I figure out how many grams of protein, carbs, and "good fats" I need to put on the muscle mass that I have set as my goal. Before a competition, I don't change my cycle, but
my daily calories drop drastically, and I figure out my diet so that within 12 weeks I am shredded and dried out so that I am ready to kick the ass out of my competition. After a contest, I do either 2 or 3 PCTs and don't
start again until I reach the number of weeks that I need to reach my offseason weight. Yeah, I do occasionally add something else to my cycle to either help me put on more muscle mass, and I sometimes have to add a
diuretic to control my blood pressure, and help to dry out, but I monitor everything I do. I also use GH if I can find any authentic brands as I would not touch any of that crap coming out of China, and when using GH you
have to supplement with thyroid and make sure you keep your insulin levels higher as Gh will deplete the thyroid and insulin in your body quickly, so if you want to maximize the advantages of GH you must keep your T3 and insulin levels high.
What I am trying to emphasize to all of you, is EDUCATION. Steroids and GH are not mirackle drugs, they are a small part of your program, and you need to educate yourself about what you are putting in your body,
study about the steroids that you are considering using, how to adjust your diet to learn how to eat to achieve your goals, and learn how to train properly and you will accomplish your goals without harming your body.
You can read about everything you need to know on the internet, and ask questions, to experienced bros on this forum if you don't understand something. There are many experienced guys on this forum that will be glad
to help you out. Education is power! BigOldNorm

wallycn
07-30-2012, 03:47 PM
If you are going to run tren for a whole year you might as well get on the waiting list for a new liver as well.

pinftw
08-08-2012, 04:02 AM
Sounds pretty effin' nuts!

c_so19
08-08-2012, 05:07 AM
You need to come off and take a break between cycles. Although the gains and thought of being on for a year straight is tempting it will not be worth it in the long run.

Emmerz24
11-16-2012, 12:02 PM
I wouldn't run tren that long. Maybe test but nvr tren