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Wanderer
01-22-2018, 02:38 PM
As you may know, when taking Insulin....if you don’t follow a proper and safe protocol, you WILL go hypoglycemic and potentially die.

So, I’m asking if anyone has a proper protocol to running Insulin. Please do not derail or hijack the thread with irrelevant posts.

(yes, I will be using HGH with it)

thanks

Danzig74
01-22-2018, 07:56 PM
Whoever is in charge of your nutrition should give you an insulin protocol. Not really something we can help with.

Sam Gold
01-22-2018, 09:03 PM
I can say that using insulin can kill you the FIRST time you use it if you do not know what you are doing. Never take one person account on how they use insulin but you need to know everything you can before you start. This is not learning as you use it type of medication. Since you are using HGH, I will just put down a few notes for you.

Diabetic testing supplies are not cheap either and you will need the full range and protocol of someone that is insulin dependent. Before you ever think about using it, get your full blood work done including Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium and your A1C levels. The A1C blood test will give you an average of the level of blood sugar for the past 2 or 3 months. This will give you much-needed information. You should also review your risks for type 2 (adult-onset diabetes) risk factors for diabetes like race, body fat, family history, etc. with a medical professional.

Your second step should be reading all about diabetes. Using insulin carries a HUGE risk, not only death due to crashing your blood sugar levels but also becoming diabetic as well. Just google it and start to read. The CDC and the American Diabetes Association are a great place to start. There are 3 different types of insulin: Rapid, Intermediate and Long-Acting. Some insulin comes with a mixture of 2 or 3 of these so KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND TAKING!

Insulin is an “anabolic” hormone that drives nutrients into muscle cells and turns on/promotes protein synthesis. It takes glucose from the blood and drives it into muscle cells to be stored as glycogen. When this happens and insulin “opens” the cell then other nutrients are taken in and carried along for the ride, like creatine and amino acids. The more glycogen and nutrients taken into muscle cells the bigger they get and the more they are able to grow and repair. Insulin indirectly promotes growth

Insulin is synergistic with HGH and the two of them ran together will greatly increase the production of IGF from the liver (IGF is a very anabolic growth factor). This will improve recovery, cell repair, and growth.

Continuous HGH use can cause a person to run high blood sugars, essentially making them borderline diabetic. Insulin use will help keep blood sugar levels in check. Using HGH without insulin and having elevated blood sugar levels continuously will cause your pancreas to start trying to crank out more and more insulin and could eventually wear out the beta cells of the pancreas, in which case you become a true diabetic. Using exogenous insulin will give your pancreas a break and keep this from happening. So if you plan on running HGH long term at higher dosages then you should plan on using insulin as well is a general belief.

I can put up more information about insulin use but your diet better be dialed in. When I say dialed in, I mean DOWN TO THE CARB, PROTEIN, and FAT. If you are not at this point then there is no reason to even think about using it.

One last thing, You need to know what your Potassium number is as well if you are thinking about going down this road. Hypokalemia is a HUGE risk factor that I do not see enough people talk about when using insulin. If your blood potassium drops low enough your heart function get messed up as well. You can easily go into different types of arrhythmia (A-fib, ectopic, PAC and PVC, V-tac and V-Fib). Your heart can just stop, Get the point here. There is a LOT you need to research and LEARN before you even think about starting using insulin.