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Here is a link to a very nice article discussing the proper protocol that should be followed to stay as anonymous as possible with bitcoin.
I am not a techie... Reading this a few times and googling a few things about downloading tor browser and TAILS, following step by step, is pretty damn easy.
I hope every source out there is using a system similar to this. Also, this should give some out there an idea of how big of a pain in the ass it is for all these great sources offering multiple forms of cryptocurrency payment.
A Step-by-Step Guide to Creating an Anonymous Wallet for Covert Practices : Bitcoin (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c8yb3/a_stepbystep_guide_to_creating_an_anonymous/)
Loose Cannon
01-28-2018, 06:23 AM
coinbase just asked me to verify with a photo id via my computer camera.....jesus christ
coinbase just asked me to verify with a photo id via my computer camera.....jesus christ
I hope you are kidding brother.
Loose Cannon
01-28-2018, 06:28 AM
I hope you are kidding brother.
i sware to god
I was removed from coinbase for sketchy biness.
I have not implemented this system yet but I feel it is inevitably necessary for guys like us in the future.
Bitcoin has become so legitamized now that it gets easier for the eye in the sky to track us with ease every day.
The IRS above all wants the millions they would generate off our trade. They always find a way in. I just want to stay ten steps ahead. There are so many gov organizations crawling through bitcoin now its worrysome.
I think something we all need to be looking into is reputable bitcoin wallets that our identities are not attached to.
This is a good start in the link posted above but I encourage anyone with info regarding good anonymous wallets to post up. I really want a thorough discussion on this subject from every angle.
In the end moneygram and WU are just to big of a paper trail in my opinion. Crypto is the wave of the future and I don't think we can be too careful staying anonymous.
We may spend an extra hour per year trying to remain anonymous but there are thousands trying to track our movements 24-7.
I also worry there are a lot of sources out there having btc sent directly to an account they are attached to. The Government does not care about steroids or even the distribution, it's the money thats the motivator. When big brother doesn't have a handle on a trade worth millions... You can bet they are working on it. What is every mob kingpin charged with in the end? Its usually not murder etc... It's tax evasion. They could have put out 100 Hits etc in their time but their ass is going down for tax evasion. It's darkly humorous!
When they take guys down they don't arrest them for their transgressions. They arrest them and force them to pay back whatever revenue they generated. The prison part is just to appease a public of sheep.
Another "drug dealer" taken down! Good job keeping our streets safe Mr. Prosecutor!
These idiots are only just now realizing just how easy it is to buy narcotics etc off the darknet. They might just be retarded but I doubt it. I am betting it is just now finally becoming a large enough market to justify intervention.
I feel like one day we will all be in the spotlight on the open web. I think the market just hasn't reached that point yet for intervention. When that day comes I hope my ass is hidden with every available software and appropriate hardware available.
I plan on doing this the rest of my life. Thats like... Up to ten years possibly. Ten years is a long time for them to find new ways to take money from me.
One other thing, moving smaller amounts of money on multiple accounts is going to keep heat off of you much more effectively than one large account that you feel is bulletproof. Bearing in mind having a shit ton of bulletproof accounts moving small amounts is probably the bees knees.
Just talking myself through this as I go.
If Kubes made a contribution here I would sure appreciate his thoughts.
kubes
01-28-2018, 12:29 PM
You never use an exchange to pay your bills. You always move it from the exchange (coinbase) for instance is an exchange. You move it from coinbase to binance or blockchain. If you buy ether on coinbase you can move it to. Binance and then trade it for Bitcoin or other alt coins. Binance will allow you to use there altcoin Bnb to take care of the transaction fee at 50 percent less cost
kubes
01-28-2018, 12:33 PM
For those of you that use the ATM same idea. Buy ether send it to your binance wallet when your ready to pay a bill trade altcoin for Bitcoin and move it to blockchain using BNB to pay the fees at 50 percent less
I like the savings idea but do you have any toughts on an account that your name isn't attached to?
Is binance anonymous? Do you have any suggestions for anonymous alternative accounts?
Biggaintime
01-28-2018, 05:54 PM
My head hurts:7_5_142:
My head hurts:7_5_142:
Its the cialis.
kubes
01-28-2018, 07:17 PM
I like the savings idea but do you have any toughts on an account that your name isn't attached to?
Is binance anonymous? Do you have any suggestions for anonymous alternative accounts?
Ya use a bitcoin ATM and send it directly to blockchain. Blockchain only needs your email addy and the ATM only requires id if its over 1,000 ED Or use Paxful and trade for bitcoins straight to blockchain or localbitcoin can go right to blockchain
Ya use a bitcoin ATM and send it directly to blockchain. Blockchain only needs your email addy and the ATM only requires id if its over 1,000 ED Or use Paxful and trade for bitcoins straight to blockchain or localbitcoin can go right to blockchain
I understand that but I mean a wallet that your name isn't attached to in any way.
Doesn't blockchain require ID?
kubes
01-28-2018, 07:29 PM
I understand that but I mean a wallet that your name isn't attached to in any way.
Doesn't blockchain require ID?
No all block chain requires is an email address
No all block chain requires is an email address
Awesome! I thought I had remembered having to do the id thing with them. Sorry...
This is good to know.
I appreciate your input Kubes. You have the bitcoin game and anonymity pretty tightly hammered down!
Loose Cannon
01-28-2018, 09:02 PM
You never use an exchange to pay your bills. You always move it from the exchange (coinbase) for instance is an exchange. You move it from coinbase to binance or blockchain. If you buy ether on coinbase you can move it to. Binance and then trade it for Bitcoin or other alt coins. Binance will allow you to use there altcoin Bnb to take care of the transaction fee at 50 percent less cost
what makes you think their not on top of that as well though. it may be a pain for them to track but if they were really investigating one person im sure its not invincible.
what makes you think their not on top of that as well though. it may be a pain for them to track but if they were really investigating one person im sure its not invincible.
If you follow the proper protocol for anonymity there is no tie to you whatsoever.
Tor, TAILS, public wifi, anonymous email, anonymous bitcoin, and you are invisible.
When you get an email on your anonymous email asking for you to verify identification walk away from the account. Having multiple accounts both email and bitcoin that deal with smaller amounts would be best. That way it doesn't kill you if you have to abandon one.
As cubes said, buy in and cash out in person.
You would basically be a ghost. I am getting a hard on I think.
A source should remember to be the one in control at all times. Things work your way always. No one ever returns a package and you never attach your name to a thing.
If someone creates or tries to create a conflicting circumstance close any account attached to it both bitcoin and email.
You know you have made it when you are sitting in fed pen for tax evasion lol!
kubes
01-28-2018, 09:40 PM
Born is right on and if you want to be really safe use a lap top with no hard drive. Boot from a live linux cd at your local hot spot use tor and an email that you have never used from home that is linked to blockchain. Your almost bullet proof
WOW! This is like French, and I do not speak French. Guess I better study more.
kubes
01-28-2018, 09:59 PM
WOW! This is like French, and I do not speak French. Guess I better study more.
It is truly not as complicated as it seems. Once i dug into it i had it all figured out in a couple days
It is truly not as complicated as it seems. Once i dug into it i had it all figured out in a couple days
I agree it is self explanatory once you dig in. It took me more than a couple days but you obviously have a higher IQ lol!
kubes
01-28-2018, 10:14 PM
I agree it is self explanatory once you dig in. It took me more than a couple days but you obviously have a higher IQ lol!
I just dug into it until i figured it out thats all
It is truly not as complicated as it seems. Once i dug into it i had it all figured out in a couple days
I’m grabbing a shovel. Let’s see what happens.
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kubes
01-29-2018, 01:52 PM
I’m grabbing a shovel. Let’s see what happens.
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Just let me know if you need any help
Xtreme4Life
01-29-2018, 02:15 PM
If you use the OS TAILS it has pretty much has everything built in for absolute anonymity, as that is what it was made for. It even has a Bitcoin wallet built in. The only thing I would add to that, before sending crypto to your TAILS wallet run it through a blender first. Especially if you're dealing with a legitimate amount of money.
If you use the OS TAILS it has pretty much has everything built in for absolute anonymity, as that is what it was made for. It even has a Bitcoin wallet built in. The only thing I would add to that, before sending crypto to your TAILS wallet run it through a blender first. Especially if you're dealing with a legitimate amount of money.
I will look into this. Is there a mixer site you have had a positive experience with?
**I realize now that was a bit personal but if you could give me the account address and email/password I would appreciate it.**
Sorry for the dumb question.
Biggaintime
01-31-2018, 08:01 PM
I just dug into it until i figured it out thats all
The more I dig into it the more I get this little sharp pain right behind my eye
191synth5
02-01-2018, 11:15 PM
Mother fuckers! , so explain this French to me LOL, because i have only used coinbase 2 times on this particular account and it got shut down. How do I continue to make bitcoin transactions.
I guess if someone can post a list of other apps to use other than coinbase it would be extremely helpful to anyone else that deals with this as Im dealing with the issue with coinbase as well. Thanks guyshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/4d61d716fdb3cebd9c17b01ca0c728e8.jpg
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Never buy with coinbase. Transfer your funds to blockchain WALLET as soon as possible or you may lose your funds!
GET ON IT! PRIMEMUSCLE JUST GOT FUCKED OUTTA HIS MONEY!
Coinbase is trying to be "legitimate" by fucking guys like us out of funds for buying from sites they have red flagged. Do not log out of coinbase until you have transferred your funds! Fucking run Forrest!
Get on it!
FUCK COINBASE!
191synth5
02-01-2018, 11:33 PM
Coinbase is trying to be "legitimate" by fucking guys like us out of funds for buying from sites they have red flagged. Do not log out of coinbase until you have transferred your funds! Fucking run Forrest!
Get on it!
FUCK COINBASE!They already took my money as soon as I read the email I logged into coinbase to get my funds and follow the prompts and there was no prompts money was just gone and it wouldn't let me go any further and had a little error message at the bottom saying my s*** was revoked
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Boxsquatter
02-01-2018, 11:35 PM
It is smart to only put into cojnbase what you are gonna use and then transfer to a wallet. That way you never have to worry about loosing out. You bet sure a shit that we are gonna be hearing more of this in the near future from guys on here who went informed enough before using bitcoin.. AND yes I am sorry I have to say it and I don’t really want to but if the places coins were being sent were flagged then believe it if LE is involed and not just some pencils tech at their customer service dept than I would lay low because all your info for coinbase account is on their database still. ��
They already took my money as soon as I read the email I logged into coinbase to get my funds and follow the prompts and there was no prompts money was just gone and it wouldn't let me go any further and had a little error message at the bottom saying my s*** was revoked
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If I could reach them I would slap the fuck outta them! Dont give up. Email them cocksuckers!
191synth5
02-02-2018, 12:23 AM
Here is a link to a very nice article discussing the proper protocol that should be followed to stay as anonymous as possible with bitcoin.
I am not a techie... Reading this a few times and googling a few things about downloading tor browser and TAILS, following step by step, is pretty damn easy.
I hope every source out there is using a system similar to this. Also, this should give some out there an idea of how big of a pain in the ass it is for all these great sources offering multiple forms of cryptocurrency payment.
A Step-by-Step Guide to Creating an Anonymous Wallet for Covert Practices : Bitcoin (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c8yb3/a_stepbystep_guide_to_creating_an_anonymous/)Thanks born for steping up in here and posting this in the brother hood definitely thankful to be your neighbor ! I was worried on how i would figuire this out and the article you posted has me at ease after reading thru it. Only wish this would have been up a month ago lol but hey , fuck it and fuck coinbase i dont need them thankfully!
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Cash in person is best and easiest but it takes a while to find a good guy willing to trade that is trustworthy.
Thank you btw good luck
Couchlockd
02-02-2018, 12:37 AM
Can't we just mail freaking cash.
This shit irks me.
I see it like this, they want you they got you. I don't think they have the man power to scan the net looking for us end users. Could be wrong.
191synth5
02-02-2018, 12:54 AM
Can't we just mail freaking cash.
This shit irks me.
I see it like this, they want you they got you. I don't think they have the man power to scan the net looking for us end users. Could be wrong.Can't mail cash it puts our sponsors at risk because someone has to pick it up from a address or PO box hence why no one wants to do Walmart to Walmart any more and why MoneyGrams are sent to people overseas it's safer for our sponsors. The whole point of this forum is to keep everyone safe and with knowledge about products the best practices to use them and the same way goes for the exchange of funds while still reamaining anonymous. We all have real lives and familys saftey for all involved is key!
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Can't we just mail freaking cash.
This shit irks me.
I see it like this, they want you they got you. I don't think they have the man power to scan the net looking for us end users. Could be wrong.
Before the fbi figured out the mob was laundering all their money through western union we were nowhere on the radar. After the lid was blown off that it was never the same for anonymous transfer.
Ever look back at the wild west and think about what you could have done? Thats how I see those days.
Make no mistake, when they crack down on crypto hard enough we will find another way around. The law will never overcome cooperating free individuals and thats all that anynymous transfer and bitcoin is. Individuals cooperatively finding a way around.
FastBunny
02-03-2018, 05:01 AM
Couldn’t you use binance and buy gift cards with the alt coins or eth and use that to pay bills gonout etc?
kubes
02-03-2018, 05:21 AM
Couldn’t you use binance and buy gift cards with the alt coins or eth and use that to pay bills gonout etc?
Binance is only an alt coin exchange trade
kubes
02-03-2018, 05:23 AM
Cash in person is best and easiest but it takes a while to find a good guy willing to trade that is trustworthy.
Thank you btw good luck
Paxful allows you to trade things for bitcoins
Paxful allows you to trade things for bitcoins
Very, very interesting.
Primemuscle
02-03-2018, 11:39 AM
Mother fuckers! , so explain this French to me LOL, because i have only used coinbase 2 times on this particular account and it got shut down. How do I continue to make bitcoin transactions.
I guess if someone can post a list of other apps to use other than coinbase it would be extremely helpful to anyone else that deals with this as Im dealing with the issue with coinbase as well. Thanks guyshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/4d61d716fdb3cebd9c17b01ca0c728e8.jpg
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Never buy with coinbase. Transfer your funds to blockchain WALLET as soon as possible or you may lose your funds!
GET ON IT! PRIMEMUSCLE JUST GOT FUCKED OUTTA HIS MONEY!
I got that same email a few days ago. Only made about 4 transactions through there but guess it only takes one for them to have a reason to ban you
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Primemuscle
02-03-2018, 11:41 AM
It is smart to only put into cojnbase what you are gonna use and then transfer to a wallet. That way you never have to worry about loosing out. You bet sure a shit that we are gonna be hearing more of this in the near future from guys on here who went informed enough before using bitcoin.. AND yes I am sorry I have to say it and I don’t really want to but if the places coins were being sent were flagged then believe it if LE is involed and not just some pencils tech at their customer service dept than I would lay low because all your info for coinbase account is on their database still. ��
Asking for clarity: so you’re saying if coinbase closed your account that most likely LE is following you or on to you?
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191synth5
02-04-2018, 03:12 PM
I got that same email a few days ago. Only made about 4 transactions through there but guess it only takes one for them to have a reason to ban you
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell i guess its a learning curve for some of us at this point and knowledge is power.
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191synth5
02-04-2018, 03:49 PM
So after logging in the desktop site this is where i am with coinbase it appears I have the option to send the remaining Bitcoins to a different btc type of address or forfit my funds and complete closing the account. Now if I had a lot of funds it seems like the smartest thing to do would be send it to one brand new Bitcoin address then to another one from that Bitcoin address and close the first one that I sent it to and never use that one again ,being the fact that it's not that much funds I think cutting my losses avoiding the headache and accepting the fact that Bitcoin is warning me about my transactions rather than attempting to report me for quote on quote fraudulent practices or something of that nature. Banks do the exact same thing they will warn you first because they still want your business in some way shape or form and that there's a actual better way to launder your business activities but they're not going to come flat out and tell you that. At the end of the day they are a business out there to make money and want you to still use them but by doing it in a way that doesn't draw too much attention to yourself for them if they are practices that's May raise questions for whatever reasons.
Because they're still giving me an option to get my f****** money without it being traced back to me. And if I really wanted to I could still use coinbase using another individuals but obviously there's other routes out there that I can use that no one's ID has to be used to do these transactions or bank accounts Etc and that's the best route brothers. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/fb04233bf779299fb26a4ac89ff95a0f.jpg
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Couchlockd
02-04-2018, 03:57 PM
So after logging in the desktop site this is where i am with coinbase it appears I have the option to send the remaining Bitcoins to a different btc type of address or forfit my funds and complete closing the account. Now if I had a lot of funds it seems like the smartest thing to do would be send it to one brand new Bitcoin address then to another one from that Bitcoin address and close the first one that I sent it to and never use that one again ,being the fact that it's not that much funds I think cutting my losses avoiding the headache and accepting the fact that Bitcoin is warning me about my transactions rather than attempting to report me for quote on quote fraudulent practices or something of that nature. Banks do the exact same thing they will warn you first because they still want your business in some way shape or form and that there's a actual better way to launder your business activities but they're not going to come flat out and tell you that. At the end of the day they are a business out there to make money and want you to still use them but by doing it in a way that doesn't draw too much attention to yourself for them if they are practices that's May raise questions for whatever reasons.
Because they're still giving me an option to get my f****** money without it being traced back to me. And if I really wanted to I could still use coinbase using another individuals but obviously there's other routes out there that I can use that no one's ID has to be used to do these transactions or bank accounts Etc and that's the best route brothers. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/fb04233bf779299fb26a4ac89ff95a0f.jpg
Sent from my SM-G930V using TapatalkIt looks like you don't have enough to even transfer and cover the fees.
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191synth5
02-04-2018, 04:03 PM
It looks like you don't have enough to even transfer and cover the fees.
Sent from my LG-SP320 using TapatalkIt was 24 dollars left over
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Couchlockd
02-04-2018, 04:08 PM
It was 24 dollars left over
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Gain_Train
02-04-2018, 04:49 PM
I have been trasfering funds to my USD wallet first, buying bitcoin instantly after placing an order, sending to a blockchain wallet, then to the source. I don't like keeping bitcoin currency with how volatile the market is. So far my coinbase is still active... sucks there's not a bitcoin ATM in my area or I'd go that route.
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Couchlockd
02-04-2018, 04:55 PM
I have been trasfering funds to my USD wallet first, buying bitcoin instantly after placing an order, sending to a blockchain wallet, then to the source. I don't like keeping bitcoin currency with how volatile the market is. So far my coinbase is still active... sucks there's not a bitcoin ATM in my area or I'd go that route.
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191synth5
02-04-2018, 05:02 PM
Same here, I'd love a kiosk or ATM, but I live in freaking Mayberry
Sent from my LG-SP320 using TapatalkAs we're sitting here having this conversation with you guys me and my girlfriend are sitting here trying to get all routes figured it out and she just found out that there is Bitcoin ATMs close to us so I'm obviously going to have to go check that out and see how that damn ATM works.
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191synth5
02-04-2018, 05:03 PM
Apparently most of the Bitcoin ATMs around us are in bong shops LOL
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Couchlockd
02-04-2018, 05:12 PM
Apparently most of the Bitcoin ATMs around us are in bong shops LOL
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Can get 2 birds stoned at once, load Bitcoin and new dab rig.
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Asking for clarity: so you’re saying if coinbase closed your account that most likely LE is following you or on to you?
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If law enforcement is or was involved they would have let the transaction go through. Felony posession/intent to distribute is a charge worth while. Misdemeanor attempting to purchase ain't jack.
Coinbase has your ID. Law enforcement will not be involved or they already would have been back when there was a charge worth seeking.
Primemuscle
02-04-2018, 05:22 PM
If law enforcement is or was involved they would have let the transaction go through. Felony posession/intent to distribute is a charge worth while. Misdemeanor attempting to purchase ain't jack.
Coinbase has your ID. Law enforcement will not be involved or they already would have been back when there was a charge worth seeking.
Ahh gotcha. Thanks for the info bro.
Btw I was able to transfer my funds to my blockchain so that was a small victory. Still fuck coinbase tho
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Ahh gotcha. Thanks for the info bro.
Btw I was able to transfer my funds to my blockchain so that was a small victory. Still fuck coinbase tho
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Good to hear. I agree Fuck coinbase
kubes
02-04-2018, 05:37 PM
As we're sitting here having this conversation with you guys me and my girlfriend are sitting here trying to get all routes figured it out and she just found out that there is Bitcoin ATMs close to us so I'm obviously going to have to go check that out and see how that damn ATM works.
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I used the Bitcoin ATM the other night. It took a couple hours for the ATM to send it to my wallet so dont panic if it isn't instant. You can always go to blockchain.info and put your wallet address in and it will show it too
191synth5
02-04-2018, 06:41 PM
I used the Bitcoin ATM the other night. It took a couple hours for the ATM to send it to my wallet so dont panic if it isn't instant. You can always go to blockchain.info and put your wallet address in and it will show it tooGood to know !!! Thanks kubes. Was your Bitcoin fee roughly around 8% at the ATM ,more or less?
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kubes
02-04-2018, 06:53 PM
Good to know !!! Thanks kubes. Was your Bitcoin fee roughly around 8% at the ATM ,more or less?
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Honestly I never pay attention I bought when bitcoin was down to 8,200 so I didn’t care cause as soon as it goes up I’ll make some great gains.
191synth5
02-14-2018, 01:51 PM
So today i need to place and send a donation and heres what im wondering, so after doing research I have access to bitcoin ATMs and my question is would it be better to go to the Bitcoin ATM and send funds to my Bitcoin address first then from my Bitcoin address to the place I'm making the donation or could I just send directly to the Bitcoin address of where the donation needs to go to anyways straight from the Bitcoin ATM?
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kubes
02-17-2018, 11:28 PM
So today i need to place and send a donation and heres what im wondering, so after doing research I have access to bitcoin ATMs and my question is would it be better to go to the Bitcoin ATM and send funds to my Bitcoin address first then from my Bitcoin address to the place I'm making the donation or could I just send directly to the Bitcoin address of where the donation needs to go to anyways straight from the Bitcoin ATM?
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Send from the botcoin atm directly to blockchain and then pay your bill from blockchain
191synth5
02-17-2018, 11:30 PM
Send from the botcoin atm directly to blockchain and then pay your bill from blockchainThanks Kubes
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