Planning next cycle!

[bhcolex50x]

I'm currently on cycle butttt planning next cycle so i can stock up early. Currently running 625mg test e/week, 400mg tren e/ week, 75mg var ed last 8 weeks. Thinking about running the same cycle but upping the test to 750 and adding 400mg primo e/week. current cycle 14 weeks next cycle 10-12 weeks. bring on your ideas bro's

thanks
cole

[bhcolex50x]

anyone?

[PAiN]

How many cycles have you ran over how many years? What are your stats?

[bhcolex50x]

4 cycles over last 3-4years
Cycle 1: var and win for 8weeks
cycle 2: test e 500mg/week 10 weeks
cycle 3: test e 500mg/week 12weeks var 60mg/day last 4weeks
cycle 4: test e 500mg/week tren e 3-400mg/week 12 weeks
current cycle test e 625mg/week tren e 400mg/week var 75mg/day last 6-8weeks 14weeks total

6' 225# 16-18%bf workin on that generally 11-12% last 8 months of work have been insane and diet went to shit but now I'm back to 40hour weeks got my diet in check and training back in order.

I'm really interested in primo e but don't personally know anyone whose run it so any info and ideas are welcomed!

Fist, any more questions for me? i know you're a veteran around here so i look forward to any info or ideas you have

[bhcolex50x]

this is frustrating....

[OJThaJuiceMan]

AGE?

[bhcolex50x]

24yrs old

[paolo123]

how did the var and winny workout? results?

[paolo123]

why do u use long esters if ur trying to cut?

[bhcolex50x]

var and winny worked great but winny has too much dht for me, if i used it regularly again id prob go bald haha I'm on a high dose of propecia because of it damn genetics didn't help me out either on that haha. and as for esters... test is test and tren is tren... the ester has to do with length of time active not on wether it cuts u up or not at least from what i see online.. if you have info that disproves this I'm defiantly willing to give it a read, diet and cardio are the 2 keys to cutting tho tren and var do help with this :) i'd rather inject more cc's twice a week than every other day with prop and tren a. I'd love to use masteron or eq but like i said super prone to mpb from dht and not much out there to block it once its converted. currently use propecia 2.5mg/day, nizoral 2% shampoo eod, and spiro gel at night 3-4nights a week seems to work a good deal when i stick with it. tren hasn't seemed to mess with my hair a lot. what else you god for me paolo? suggestions welcome

[bhcolex50x]

38 views and little to no info or opinions or help...? come on guys lol

[paolo123]

short ester are use for cutting and just so u know they are stronger.... read up on it.

[bhcolex50x]

from ester weight sticky:
"Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate: 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate: 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate: 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 76mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg"

so the term stronger is relative... 1cc prop 100 eod (4cc/week) is 320mg of actual test. 2cc of test e 250 per week is really 350mg of actual test per week.

not arguing but everything i read points to test is test IF you take ester weight into account and add more test to accommodate the missing test in heaver ester weights. so why are short esters used for cutting? this is info I've yet to come across. like u said short esters are used for cutting i see that everywhere but why if the hormone is the same in both esters just different amount of the hormone in each ester... lay some knowledge on me I'm defiantly still learning

[paolo123]

short esters create less bloat then long esters.. to be honest it dont matter what compound u take if ur diet and training is not on point u WONT get results... u cant take 5 compounds and think ur going to get great results... i can take test p by itself and get better results then you. U follow my drift. its not hard just pick what u want.

[bhcolex50x]

yeaaaa i learned the hard way on my first cycle that its more diet that juice haha i 120%agree that diet and training come first and thanks for all the replies paolo you seem to b the only one replying haha i was really hoping to get a lot of personal experiences of primo e because idk anyone thats used it. good to know about the bloat issue, don't really have issues with that anymore i run arimidex bec. I'm super prone to gyno lol. i think I've concluded I'm going to run 500-725mg test e/week, 400mg primo e/week, and 75mg eod of var.

[paolo123]

where did u get running 75mg EOD of var is ok?

[bhcolex50x]

sorry typo 75mg ED, 25mg every 8 hours. thanks for catching that paolo

[bhcolex50x]

other than the typo what do you think about the test, primo, var combo paolo? i think i am going to take icon's advice now that ive cooled off and stick to test e250 and pin compounds seperate from now on even tho its twice as much pinning oh well thats life

[GD]

other than the typo what do you think about the test, primo, var combo paolo? i think i am going to take icon's advice now that ive cooled off and stick to test e250 and pin compounds seperate from now on even tho its twice as much pinning oh well thats life

your a young guy...take my advise and stick to the basics...old school gear worked wonders for the arnold era...the human body hasnt changed that much since then,,lol...there is suck a thing as too much gear...im thinking your right on that line...with being only 24 your test levels are high as it is and your receptors will be pretty clean..the blend are normally for guy who have been in the game for years and need something to shock thier system..steroids are no different than going out drinking every night..you build up a tollerance from beer and then you move onto the jack to get drunk.....bottom line...dump the exotics and stick to the basics...you will be very happy if you follow the advise of other on here...we are all here for the same reason..to learn

[bhcolex50x]

your a young guy...take my advise and stick to the basics...old school gear worked wonders for the arnold era...the human body hasnt changed that much since then,,lol...there is suck a thing as too much gear...im thinking your right on that line...with being only 24 your test levels are high as it is and your receptors will be pretty clean..the blend are normally for guy who have been in the game for years and need something to shock thier system..steroids are no different than going out drinking every night..you build up a tollerance from beer and then you move onto the jack to get drunk.....bottom line...dump the exotics and stick to the basics...you will be very happy if you follow the advise of other on here...we are all here for the same reason..to learn

i can def. get carried away, what do u think about test e 500mg/week primo e 400mg/week and 75mgvar ed? 3 pretty standard compounds, no blends or exotics. think thats a reasonable stack with reasonable dosage?

[GD]

i can def. get carried away, what do u think about test e 500mg/week primo e 400mg/week and 75mgvar ed? 3 pretty standard compounds, no blends or exotics. think thats a reasonable stack with reasonable dosage?

dump the primo...test cyp 1cc every 4 days stacked with a nice old school sustanon 250 every 5 days...done...get a nice protien shake hit the gym and eat like a beast...done....