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griggs64
01-24-2012, 03:04 PM
Is there any point in a Var only cycle. ive read the sides are mild with Var but its expensive!

What kinda gains should one expect to get from a Var only cycle - does anyone have any first hand knowledge?

Ive read Var also builds mass - although some dispute this!

chrisotpherm
01-24-2012, 03:26 PM
Var,
Is used as a cutting agent along with other compounds. A var only cycle imo isnt going to be as beneficial or affective as a cycle with test in it and would recommend test-p for cutting. I don't really see the benefits of var over winny and it is and var is much more expensive. Some will argue this.

rghtnow
01-24-2012, 07:03 PM
Is there any point in a Var only cycle. ive read the sides are mild with Var but its expensive!

What kinda gains should one expect to get from a Var only cycle - does anyone have any first hand knowledge?

Ive read Var also builds mass - although some dispute this!

Var is good by itself if your a woman and looking for strength increases and some solid gains in clean (not bloated) muscle but for a guy it's mainly used as a finisher. You can achieve gains from it but the doses needed tend to be high like 40mg ED and higher..The more experienced users are running it between 60mg and up to 100mg ED and more....A var only cycle for a guy if you ran enough would result in some decent new muscle only if you had obtained a very low BF% before you started...it would harden you up and give you that grainy finished look....however if your not already pretty shredded your not going to see anything from it...it's a great finisher at the end of a cutting cycle otherwise IMO it's not worth running

tilltheend
01-24-2012, 08:37 PM
As it was stated, you want a lower body fat to begin with if you are using a var only cycle.

griggs64
01-24-2012, 10:32 PM
thanks for the advice folks - Vars no use for me just now i think. i want some size first defore cutting. planning a test cyp first cycle but looking for as much info on it as poss before i start. tho i have been doing a fair bit of reading i would prefer a cycle set down for me from guys that know their stuff. So help folks - please!

Spawn
01-25-2012, 04:48 AM
test e or c for 12-14wks 500mg
dbol 40mg 5wks.

PCT: NOLVA 40MG/40/20/20

Pointer1
01-25-2012, 12:54 PM
You can cut it build on any compound. It's all about diet and training. Var is a great compound to help cutting due to strength gains and the affects it has on bf. if you are in a caloric deficit to cut var will keep you from getting weaker. It is a very mild substance but I still recommend test as a base to anything.

REDRUM
01-26-2012, 08:56 PM
I wouldnt classify Var as a cutting agent. Honestly I wouldnt classify anything aside from, PGCL, DNP, clen, or T3 as cutting agents. Anavar is similar in its effects to that of primobolan. Its expensive because its one of the few things that just builds muscle tissue, hence its use in wasting disorders like HIV. Its not an adrogenic drug, and its anabolic effects are minimal but potent enough to see results if the dose is high enough. If using it on its own, you would need a dose of at least 60mgs ed. And what you would see as an end result would be just pure muscle tissue, you might gain 5-10lbs, but its something you would keep afterwards unlike the effects of so many other drugs where you strength shoots through the roof, and the muscle building is coupled with that, and then of course when the strength is gone a good chunk of the muscle is too.

With var because the gains are slow, but steady and the strength increase is just as gradual you have a much better chance of keeping what you gained during the course of the cycle. That is of course you are eating correctly and training and sleeping as you should, without the basics you can add anything you like but its not gonna be worth a damn in the end.

REDRUM
01-26-2012, 09:05 PM
thanks for the advice folks - Vars no use for me just now i think. i want some size first defore cutting. planning a test cyp first cycle but looking for as much info on it as poss before i start. tho i have been doing a fair bit of reading i would prefer a cycle set down for me from guys that know their stuff. So help folks - please!

Should have read closer I didnt see this...

Just use the Test by itself if this is your first go around, run it at 500mgs for 10 weeks, on the 14th week start your PCT. Use novladex, 40mgs ed for the first 2 weeks, 20mgs ed for the last 2.
See how your body responds to the test alone before adding anything else with it, and dont expect to notice anything until the 4-6 week range.

bhcolex50x
01-26-2012, 11:32 PM
I'd defiantly go test e only for first cycle 500mg/week bro. I still like to go back to this cycle at least once a year just a simple mild cycle

griggs64
02-01-2012, 09:28 PM
thanks again for the advice bro's - gonna run a test only cycle as suggested - feeling pretty confident about it now!.

OJThaJuiceMan
02-02-2012, 06:48 AM
A Var only cycle is going to leave you feeling lethargic as fuck, as well shut you down.. which is essentially just setting you up to fail and loose your gains.

TEST is the milestone/building block for ANY cycle :)