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evawinter
04-15-2018, 12:02 PM
What we are finding is that some people using MK677 and having bloodwork done are testing around the equivalent of 3iu of GH, and some lucky individuals are testing as high as the equivalent of 4iu of GH.

I had baseline IGF-1 bloodwork done (227), tested 4iu of pharm grade GH after 3 days (380), and am currently on a 4 week run of 15mg MK677 by itself, when I will have bloodwork done in several weeks to do a comparison as well, when I will report back with bloodwork.

I am looking into alternating a month of GH with a month of MK677 in order to save funds.

After a week, I am a fan of MK-677, I weigh my own caps (as the taste is terrible) with a 1mg scale, and prefer taking it 1st thing in the morning, function fine on it, have a sense of wellbeing, muscle-fullness + pumps, increased recovery from workouts + anti-aging benefits as I am 48. It does feel like several IU of GH to me. Personally, I sleep very well at night by taking it in the morning. Yes, there is some appetite increase, but the fat percentage has actually gone down by 1% allready on the MK677 + year round keto diet except for 25g carbs 1 hour pre-workout (always from crunchy peanut butter, glycemic index of 14) and postworkout on workout days. I consume 180g of protein a day, with 50g of that from met-rx daily and fats are kept high. Non-workout days carbs are kept to less than 20g. The peanut butter helps to give me energy for the workout. Also on TRT of 200mg test c a week as well, with 1/8th to 1/4mg armidex twice a week with each 100mg shot. I continue to loose fat while fat free mass is up. Also happy to report that blood pressure is normal. I own two books on HGH: "Grown young with HGH" and "Growth Hormone Secretagogues in Clinical Practice", both books have a discussion about the results and benefits of MK677, and how it was discovered.

Best article I have read on MK677 with charts and graphs from most of the studies:

The Beauty of Modern Science: Ibutamoren (MK-677):
The Beauty of Modern Science: Ibutamoren (MK-677) - Mind And Muscle (http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/beauty-modern-science-ibutamoren-mk-677/)

Here are the results of the research I did so far:
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self:
227 igf1---->380 igf1 (4iu chinese pharm grade) = 153 point jump

Peptides:
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Alpha6164's (medical doctor's best friend):
167 igf1---->272 igf1 (100mcg grf(1-29) + 100mcg ghrp2 x 3 times a day) = 105 point increase

MK677:
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Fitraver:
224 igf1---->359 igf1 (12.5mg mk677) = increase of 135 points*
MrSaturatedfat:
232 igf1---->312 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 80 points**
thebigone:
150 igf1---->242 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 92 points***
machine5150:
141 igf1-----217 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 76 points****
Sayitaintsoap:
unknown igf1---->376 igf1 (25mg mk677) = unknown increase*****

*See Fitraver post "bloods on 12.5mg mk677"
**See Mrsaturatedfat post "37 days on mk677"
***See thebigone post "Humatrope,MK677 and other GH labs for you guys"
****See machine5150 post "MK677 Before and After Blood Work w/ IGF Levels Raised 53.9%"
*****See sayitaintsoap post "THT's MK-677 review and blood work"

**Notice the similar point jumps between peptides and mk677, either one seems to reach a max of around 100 igf-1 points.

evawinter
04-15-2018, 12:24 PM
references:

ref 1: additional information on mk677 only:
A few favorite quotes on Mk-677 at lower dosage:

Cybersage (from forum):

Yes, Fitraver saw an over 100 point increase while running it at 12.5mg (half dose)



Sandpig: (9/6/2017)

Drop down to 12.5 . Eventually the lethargy and other issues will slowly fade. Once they do, you can bump it up again. Took me two months at 12.5 before I could go to 25.



Elvia1023: (19,000 posts)

Everyone responds differently but 25mg is far too much for you. Others are fine at that dose but most aren't. I would recommend 10-12.5mg and with that the side effects will be minimized but the results still there. You won't be as full and pumped but you will feel multiple times better. 10-12.5mg is great for muscle fullness, pumps, recovery, size and strength. I am fine at 10mg but once I get to 15mg and over I can barely function and the fatigue is unbearable. I actually prefer MK-677 to HGH in many ways... especially for gaining size.



RamboStallone (9/6/2017: 7,000 posts):

This is why I personally recommend starting at 5mg. MK677 increases gh/igf levels for a 24hr period from a single dose, this is longer than any other peptide or GH product, and in my opinion stronger than any gh supp including exogenous GH. I've used this stuff for years now and everytime I restart it anything over 5mg puts me on my ass. It's all the sides of increased gh/igf just more pronounced with MK677 then any other gh product including the effects. I blow up on the stuff immediately. The cts is unbearable. My recommendation, lower the dose brother.



ref 2: additional information on peptides only:

Alpha6164 (medical doctor and bodybuilder, from the long 60 page thread at prof muscle, he performed nearly a dozen bloodtests and charged them to his medical practice):

I dont think peptides in usual 2-3x daily can equal 5iu of quality GH daily. Here is why. When i was on 5iu of Rips daily, my IGF was in the 600s. That is coming from a baseline of 160s. We know from three different tesamorelin studies that 2mg of tesamorelin raised IGFs 109-180 from basline. So if i started with 160 i could go to 260-340. Now that is a great number from baseline and can be almost a 200% increase and you will get fat loss benefits, anti-aging etc. But definitely not in the range of 5iu of synthetic GH.

My best friend and partner was on 100/100mcg of GRF/GHRP-2 three times a day and his IGF increased about 120 from baseline. So very in line with 2mg of tesamorelin.



Alpha6164 said

My best friend used GRF1-29/ghrp-2 100/100 three times daily and his IGF went from 167 to 272 in 8 weeks. Yes we are not getting IGFs in the 500-700s as with high dose GH but having a rise of 40% on such a small dose is pretty significant.



Alpha6164 in conclusion said:

Peptides will raise your GH as if you were on 2-3iu of synthetic GH daily. So it is great for people that wanna be on anti-aging dosage or for fast loss purposes.

Using a 100/100mcg combo 3x daily will raise your IGF similar to if you were on 2-3iu of GH daily. Most people on 4iu of GH will have IGFs in the high 300s to low 400s. But raising your IGF by 100-150 points from baseline can only help you with better recovery, healing, metabolism etc.

bigbreads80
04-15-2018, 02:28 PM
I just started a mk677 product and I'm loving it. Really seeing big results that I was not expecting. But I have a question- I'll be getting labs a week from this Monday testing gear for Ace. At that point I'll be a week and half or so into this mk677 run. Thinking of opting to have gh/igf panels added to my test just to see what this mk677 is doing. I plan to fast 12 hours as the test asks. The half life on the mk677 is 24 hours so I wouldn't imagine it would matter when I take it in relation to labs. Is there anything else I would need to do to get an accurate reading without messing with my original reason for labs-test levels.

evawinter
04-15-2018, 03:10 PM
Your plan sounds good bigbreads80. Keep us updated should you add the igf-1 panel to your test, adding the gh panel will most likely not reveal much, as you would have to catch the mk677 on the uprise of a pulse, and you would not know when that is occurring. It doesn't sound like there is anything else you need to do. I pay about $69 for each igf-1 test, it's not too bad, as some places charge around $100.

update: I am doing so well at 15mg, that I am thinking of raising the dose to 20mg, and staying at that level...fat percentage continues to drop while on the mk677 + year round ketogenic diet (less than 20g carbs on non-workout days, but 25 grams pre-workout and 25 grams post-workout on workout days to fuel workouts and recovery) while fat free mass is still increasing. Protein is 180g a day (50g from met-rx) and fats are high. Workouts are 3 times a week. Recovery is very, very good. If I go to 20mg, I will stay there for 3 weeks, then have the bloodwork done to compare to the baseline IGF-1 and 4iu of Chinese pharm grade IGF-1 bloodwork I had done recently....will report back in a few weeks with bloods. Take care.

bigbreads80
04-16-2018, 12:40 AM
Something to add , just incase it would help anyone. The lethargy on this stuff is for real . The first 2 days I did 12.5 mgs and it was noticable. Friday and Saturday I decided go on up to 25mgs. Lethargy is in full effect. I could've slept all weekend. My plan now is to just tough it out for a week or so because I've been told itll go away about that time. On to my point, I have not wanted to work out at all these past few days. My preworkout has saved my ass. I drink this stuff called Bulk Preworkout by Transparent labs. Its non-stim, but they do have one with. Its mainly citrulline malate, aminos, beta alanine and some other goodies. Once I drag my ass into the gym- I'm ready. The lethargy goes away, and I get to reap the benefits of the increase in strength from the mk677. Not to mention the pump and just overall appearance got me looking beastly . This PW is prob one of the top 3 things I've ever added into my training in 15 years that's actually made a real noticable difference where nothing else would. I don't know those people and I don't have a referral code lol, but when I find something that is legit , with so much bullshit being thrown at us all the time, I feel the need to shout about it. If u need a legit preworkout, I'd damn near bet my paycheck you won't find better .. and if you're running mk, chances are you're gonna need a strong preworkout.

evawinter
04-18-2018, 11:19 AM
bigbreads80, sorry to hear about the lethargy issues you have run into, like you said hang in there and see how it goes, hope it gets better. Mike Arnold also reported he gets no lethargy on it, so I guess everyone responds differently. I have been on a week, and so far no lethargy, more on this below.

1st lab is baseline igf-1 [227, high] (age 48, ref is 67 to 205 ng/mL)

2nd lab is igf-1 [380, high] after being on 4iu of Chinese pharm grade for only 2 days (95 point increase per each 1iu)

3rd lab (upcoming in 3 weeks) is igf-1 after being on 20mg of mk677** (by itself) for 3 weeks

** note: taking 20mg mk677 by itself in morning with 200mcg huperzine A + NOW brand EGCg caffeine free green tea extract--400mg (contains 200mg EGCg/80% catechins, using these to help keep somatostatin down).
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Note: I have been taking the mk677 at 20mg in the morning only and sleep very well at night (normal 8 hours plus), vivid dreams are often noticed (similar to GH). I get disrupted sleep (get less sleep) when I tried taking it before bed or even a few hours before bed, Keep in mind that the body needs some time to adjust to the compound I think as well. I had problems with lethargy in the past (when I tried mk677 months ago for a few days, then gave it up) since I was taking it at night and getting less sleep which I think led to tiredness during the day at work. My body does not react well to taking anything before bed. But when I take the MK677 in the morning, I get a good sense of well-being every day (my spouse even said I had been coming home every day after work in a good mood, and that she loved the change) and no lethargy issues thus far after a week. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you. Water retention does not seem to be too bad from the compound while being on a low carb targeted keto diet.

evawinter
04-27-2018, 10:17 PM
So I got the results back from the bloodwork after being on 25mg of mk677 only for 2 weeks, and the result was 372 ng/ml.

That's an increase of 145 points from baseline!

227 baseline igf-1----->380 igf-1 after being on 4iu of Chinese pharm grade GH for 2 days

227 baseline igf-1----->372 igf-1 after being on mk677 only for 2 weeks.

So, in conclusion, being on mk677 for 2 weeks was similar to being on 4iu of Chinese pharm grade GH, for me anyhow, as the bloodtest proves it.

Will post actual lab report here tomorrow when off work.

This is an incredible raise in igf-1 for my age of 48 as reference is 67-205 for my age group, and the mk677 for 2 weeks brought me beyond the high range for a young adult in their early 20's.

I couldn't be happier, this helps explain the increases in strength at the gym, as well as the fast recovery from workouts.

MK677 should bring you to the high level of a young adult if you are already at the high end for an older adult.

Older folks (59-225ug/L)
young adult (116-358 ug/L)

Ref levels from the MK677 study on healthy older adults.

So I could not be happier that MK677 brought me beyond the very high level range for a young 20 year old. I could only imagine what it could do for a 20 year old.

Mk677 at 25mg a day cost me only 15 a month for the pure powder vs 170 a month for 100 iu of pharm grade Chinese GH at 4iu for 20 days, so the cost savings is quite substantial, and shows that a person could even alternate the two (say 5iu GH) from one month to mk677 only the next month should they desire to save money, or just stay on mk677 to remain at a 4iu GH level.

p.s. keep in mind I took 25mg of mk677 every morning along with huperzine A and EGCG just once a day of both. You could also use CDPcholine and vitamin B5 in place of the huperzine A, this all helps to lower somatostatin. 24165

evawinter
04-28-2018, 12:08 PM
So in conclusion:

4iu of GH for just 2 days --------> increased igf-1 levels 68% from baseline.

25mg of MK677 @ 2 weeks-----> increased igf-1 levels 64% from baseline.

note: MK677 was taken in the morning along with 100mcg huperzine A + 200mg caffeine free EGCG to help lower somatostatin.

Shadowsyl2012
04-28-2018, 03:15 PM
Excellent thread, should be stickied! Wish more people read books and posted actual labs. I dont mind anecdotal reviews but the certainty people show with out labbs about certain things amazes me, only posters like yourself have solid merit when it comes to how such and such substance reacted with you.

cheers!

blastoff29
04-28-2018, 03:43 PM
Could u message me your source??

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MuscleScience
04-29-2018, 08:21 AM
Could u message me your source??

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Ditto’

great results man!

evawinter
04-29-2018, 11:55 AM
Thanks for comments shadowsyl2012 and blastoff29, unfortunately, I went back on-line myself to get some more from pureinfernonutrtion.com but noticed he took down his site due to the upcoming sarms ban (but don't worry mk677 is not included in the ban, just real sarms only, mk677 is not on the ban list)The taste of the mk677 is very terrible and this will help let you know when you have good stuff, and it is pure white, always keep in a sealed bag and freeze excess with vacuum pack if possible.
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Comments on the 2 weeks: remember that everyone reacts differently, I have been using it at 25mg every morning for 2 weeks, get no lethargy, great sense of well being, increased energy, even my spouse said my mood improved after coming home from work the past 2 weeks, as I was in a good mood compared to my normal stressed self. I actually feel younger on the stuff at age 48. I spend only 15 a month for 25mg a day, as I get the pure powder and weigh it myself into caps with a cheap quality 1mg scale. Keep in mind I did work my way up to 25mg, by starting at 15mg for day 1-3, then 20mg for 2 days, then went up to 25mg.

Perhaps the increase in igf-1 and increased amount of low level (12+ a day) GH pulses helps to explain why I feel younger on the stuff. Strength increased in the gym by 5 lbs+ on all upper body in 2 weeks for same reps, while squats and leg press went up 20 lbs (and +10lbs on hamstring curl) for same reps while on the mk677...I'm staying on this stuff forever (with breaks here and there) absolutely love it.
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To sum up the results of the research I did so far:
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self:
227 igf1---->380 igf1 (4iu chinese generic pharm grade) = 153 point jump

Peptides:
-----------
Alpha6164's (medical doctor's best friend):
167 igf1---->272 igf1 (100mcg grf(1-29) + 100mcg ghrp2 x 3 times a day) = 105 point increase

MK677:
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self:
227 igf1---->372 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 145 points******
Fitraver:
224 igf1---->359 igf1 (12.5mg mk677) = increase of 135 points*
MrSaturatedfat:
232 igf1---->312 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 80 points**
thebigone:
150 igf1---->242 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 92 points***
machine5150:
141 igf1-----217 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 76 points****
Sayitaintsoap:
unknown igf1---->376 igf1 (25mg mk677) = unknown increase*****

*See Fitraver post "bloods on 12.5mg mk677"
**See Mrsaturatedfat post "37 days on mk677"
***See thebigone post "Humatrope,MK677 and other GH labs for you guys"
****See machine5150 post "MK677 Before and After Blood Work w/ IGF Levels Raised 53.9%"
*****See sayitaintsoap post "THT's MK-677 review and blood work"
******self: note took in morning with 100mcg huperzine A + 200mg caffeine free EGCG to help lower somatostatin (instead of huperzine A you could also use CDPcholine + vitamin B5).
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1st lab is baseline igf-1 [227, high] (age 48, ref is 67 to 205 ng/mL)

2nd lab is igf-1 [380, high] after 4iu of Chinese pharm grade for 2 days (95 point increase per each 1iu)

3rd lab is igf-1 [372, high] after 25mg mk677 for weeks

evawinter
04-29-2018, 05:03 PM
Concluding notes:

bottom graph: It turns out the level of 372 igf-1 the MK677 brought me too is right around the level of most 16 year old boys and girls (between 300 to 400 igf-1).

StanG [from the thread "the no-bs scoop on mk677"]

Now lets talk a bit abut side effects. I see a ton of people talking about bloat with Mk677. There is a lot of confusion as to why this occurs and how to prevent it. Many people drop the dosage however by doing so you directly impact the potency and effectiveness of Mk. The optimal dose for Mkk677, without a doubt, is 25mg/day. The bloat is caused by an effect in the kidneys caused by the increase in GH on vasopressin. This can easily be offset by the addition of a simple low dose daily aspirin protocol. Thats right, one 82mg aspirin/day with impact ADH (anti dieuretic hormone or vasporessin) to the point where it eliminated the bloat associated with Mk677.
Dropping the dose to 10 to 15mg can also reduce bloat but will still be very effective, studies with just 10mg still showed large increase in igf-1. Another way to control is to be on a targeted year round low carb, high fat/protein keto-diet (which I follow) with increased carbs around workout times/days. Don't think of the minor increased water weight as bad, it has allowed for some rather fast moderate increases in strength in the gym + the muscles feel pumped and very full, and my joints feel incredible as before the mk677 I had had some joint issues which cleared right up about 2 weeks into the mk677.

I was extra hungry for the 1st week on it, but after that the increased hunger died down/went away. In 2 year studies on mk677, it was still effective (no desensitization), and the level of igf-1 at the 1 year point was actually measured and found to have increased beyond what it was at the 3 week level.

The 1st day I took it, I felt a bit funny (even euphoric) as it raises your GH level super sky high, but then the body will sense the increased igf-1 the next day and instill a feedback mechanism to keep it within the level of a teenager after that. 24203

chadmack282
04-30-2018, 07:42 PM
Thanks for sharing all of your hard work & effort u put into this!!

evawinter
05-13-2018, 12:20 PM
Thank you chadmack282. Just a quick note: MK677 similar to GH is going to lower your insulin sensitivity a bit, I would suggest taking 1 capsule of Arazo's blood sugar support (read 600 reviews at amazon) or anything similar 1/2 hour before every meal & protein shake to improve insulin sensitivity + shuttle excess glucose towards muscle and liver and not fat storage. These glucose disposal agents have been found by many reviewers to work even better than metformin without the side effects, and blood sugar was lowered from 130 and 120 down to 80 and similar readings for those with issues, helps with weight loss, etc. 1g Cinnamon supplement (not the extract) was also shown in several studies to lower blood sugar levels by 25%, just read the study at ergo-log.

evawinter
05-27-2018, 02:55 PM
With the money I save not having to buy GH monthly, I have spent a small portion of the money buying top sirloin in bulk at costco (and put the rest of money in 401k) and cook on my electric grill (super easy clean up, just replace foil in round plate catch below the grill) at 450 degree F outside on porch, no mess like cooking/broil splatter in the oven. Electric grills are awesome, also throw in a foil pouch with water soaked mesquite chips with holes poked in the foil to give a smoke flavor to the steaks. Steak + eggs + salmon + metrx = great protein weekly.

I am still on the year-round targeted ketogenic diet (TKD, carbs kept to less than 25 grams daily) except on workout days when I consume 40 grams pre-workout (1 to 1.5 hour before) in the form of oatmeal (plus a few raisins) microwaved in milk. Then add a pre-cut up frozen bannana to my postworkout met-rx pure protein shake for some postworkout carbs, then of course back to keto diet for the rest of the day. Been loosing fat this way while adding muscle weekly. I also take 1 tablet of blood sugar support from arazos 20 minutes before meals, to keep insulin working effectively as mk677 and GH both will decrease your insulin sensitivity a bit.

Supplements daily:
* 50 grams met-rx pure protein plus,
* 25mg mk677 in morning + 50mcg (1/2 a huperzine tablet) + a formula which contains 200mg cdp choline + 100mg alpha gpc choline (this all helps keeps somatostatin low as GH works thru the choline system)
* 1 tablet arazo blood sugar support (glucose disposal agent) 20 minutes before meals, sometimes throw in additional chromium picolinate and vanadyl sulfate (reduces blood sugar 20%) or cinnamon supplement (reduces 25%).
* 3 grams HMB daily (buy in bulk powder form from bulksupplements, 6 months supply around 40 dollars)
* year round 200mg a week TRT cypionate + 1/4 mg arimidex with each of the twice weekly shots of 100mg.
* 5 grams creatine daily
* give blood every few months

workout schedule:
1st day: chest, triceps, shoulders [push]
2nd day: rest
3rd day: legs + abs
4rth day: rest
5th day: back, biceps, traps [pull]
Like Dan Duchaine once wrote in his book "Bodyopus" working out each bodypart just once a week is highly effective.

fun schedule for mental & spiritual health:
go to waterpark to go swimming at least once or twice a week = nature peace of mind
other days: walk dog in shaded park with river and clear streams and hundred year old trees = nature peace of mind
stay mindful spiritually

movies seen recently:
Annihilation with Natalie Portman (sci-fi)
Submergence with Alicia Vikander (actress from Tomb Raider)

** I will back at the end of July with more followup bloodwork after being on MK677 for 4 months + spouse bloodwork upcoming.

Summary: 25mg mk677 daily in am with choline enhancers increased my igf-1 from 227 to 372 total in 2 weeks, increase of 145 points, which is very similar to 4iu of Chinese pharmacy grade GH which is used to treat dwarfism in China.

I have been on 25mg daily of mk677 for 2 months now, added 60 lbs to 20 rep squat in that time, and all upper body lifts went up around 5lbs weekly. Get about an added 20 to 25% increase in strength from it just like JohnJuanb1.

The study on older healthy adults shows the igf-1 levels continue to rise up to high at the 6 month period, then level around there and stay at that high 6 month elevation even at the 1 and 2 year mark. I will be conducting igf-1 bloodwork not only at 4 months, but also at each 1 year anniversary to chart my own as well.

You can control bloat pretty well by staying on a ketogenic diet like myself if need be, I'm on this diet year-round.

MuscleScience
05-27-2018, 06:15 PM
With the money I save not having to buy GH monthly, I have spent a small portion of the money buying top sirloin in bulk at costco (and put the rest of money in 401k) and cook on my electric grill (super easy clean up, just replace foil in round plate catch below the grill) at 450 degree F outside on porch, no mess like cooking/broil splatter in the oven. Electric grills are awesome, also throw in a foil pouch with water soaked mesquite chips with holes poked in the foil to give a smoke flavor to the steaks. Steak + eggs + salmon + metrx = great protein weekly.

I am still on the year-round targeted ketogenic diet (TKD, carbs kept to less than 25 grams daily) except on workout days when I consume 40 grams pre-workout (1 to 1.5 hour before) in the form of oatmeal (plus a few raisins) microwaved in milk. Then add a pre-cut up frozen bannana to my postworkout met-rx pure protein shake for some postworkout carbs, then of course back to keto diet for the rest of the day. Been loosing fat this way while adding muscle weekly. I also take 1 tablet of blood sugar support from arazos 20 minutes before meals, to keep insulin working effectively as mk677 and GH both will decrease your insulin sensitivity a bit.

Supplements daily:
* 50 grams met-rx pure protein plus,
* 25mg mk677 in morning + 50mcg (1/2 a huperzine tablet) + a formula which contains 200mg cdp choline + 100mg alpha gpc choline (this all helps keeps somatostatin low as GH works thru the choline system)
* 1 tablet arazo blood sugar support (glucose disposal agent) 20 minutes before meals, sometimes throw in additional chromium picolinate and vanadyl sulfate (reduces blood sugar 20%) or cinnamon supplement (reduces 25%).
* 3 grams HMB daily (buy in bulk powder form from bulksupplements, 6 months supply around 40 dollars)
* year round 200mg a week TRT cypionate + 1/4 mg arimidex with each of the twice weekly shots of 100mg.
* 5 grams creatine daily
* give blood every few months

workout schedule:
1st day: chest, triceps, shoulders [push]
2nd day: rest
3rd day: legs + abs
4rth day: rest
5th day: back, biceps, traps [pull]
Like Dan Duchaine once wrote in his book "Bodyopus" working out each bodypart just once a week is highly effective.

fun schedule for mental & spiritual health:
go to waterpark to go swimming at least once or twice a week = nature peace of mind
other days: walk dog in shaded park with river and clear streams and hundred year old trees = nature peace of mind
stay mindful spiritually

movies seen recently:
Annihilation with Natalie Portman (sci-fi)
Submergence with Alicia Vikander (actress from Tomb Raider)

** I will back at the end of July with more followup bloodwork after being on MK677 for 4 months + spouse bloodwork upcoming.

Summary: 25mg mk677 daily in am with choline enhancers increased my igf-1 from 227 to 372 total in 2 weeks, increase of 145 points, which is very similar to 4iu of Chinese pharmacy grade GH which is used to treat dwarfism in China.

I have been on 25mg daily of mk677 for 2 months now, added 60 lbs to 20 rep squat in that time, and all upper body lifts went up around 5lbs weekly. Get about an added 20 to 25% increase in strength from it just like JohnJuanb1.

The study on older healthy adults shows the igf-1 levels continue to rise up to high at the 6 month period, then level around there and stay at that high 6 month elevation even at the 1 and 2 year mark. I will be conducting igf-1 bloodwork not only at 4 months, but also at each 1 year anniversary to chart my own as well.

You can control bloat pretty well by staying on a ketogenic diet like myself if need be, I'm on this diet year-round.


Do you have another source you’re using? I got some from a peptide supplier I have used for a long time. My pre-IGF-1 levels were 188, post after taking 25mg for 28 days was 192. So statistically identical. I won’t be using their MK-677. It also makes me wonder about their other products which seemed to be legit.