Doctor admits steroids aren't harmful at all

[STEROID]

Doctor admits steroids aren't harmful at all

Steroids have been linked to the death of popular athletes, but a Wisconsin doctor claims steroids aren't harmful at all.

The Ryan Braun case has many people thinking about what athletes can, and cannot do to improve performance, and what is acceptable in the court of public opinion.

Olympian Jill Rookard, one of the most tested athletes in the world and from the skaters to the coaches, they want to do it clean.

Then enter Dr. Norman Fost. A University of Wisconsin professor, who says steroids are not evil.
"It's cheating, obviously if there's a rule against it, you use it, then it's cheating. You're breaking the rule. But first the question is, why is the rule there in the first place," said Dr. Fost

In fact, Dr. Fost claims very few studies have been done to say that steroids are bad and not one single test definitely links steroids to all the problems that people claim it does to the body.

"The so-called risks of steroids are wildly exaggerated, and often just made up," said Dr. Fost.

Yet Dr. Fost claims there are myths about steroid use and abuse, with former NFL star Lyle Alzado as the poster boy.

"Nowhere in any of the luminous press that still floats around, about Lyle Alzado. Nowhere is there a single sentence based on a single scientific fact or a single physician who thinks that there's any evidence at all that his brain tumor had anything to do with steroids," said Dr. Fost.

And while he's against steroids for boosting athletic performance, a Milwaukee area expert on bioethics agrees with Dr. Fost's argument. "Steroids are prescribed all the time, and used safely for medical reasons. And if we did it that way, it could be safe. I don't dispute that," said Ryan Spellecy. "In fact, as you look at the different arguments, most of them don't hold up."

This issue raised because of Ryan Braun's positive test that could be for an alleged banned substance, and how public perception frowns upon any item that can boost performance.

Dr. Fost calls himself the loneliest man in America, because of his stance. "I don't see any reason for treating them differently, than the literally hundreds of other drugs that athletes take to enhance their performance."

The doctor also says sports goes through improvements his equipment, so why not allow steroids, for increased performance?

Dr. Fost says he definitely would not recommend steroids for kids and younger, high school age athletes.

But he claims doctors could properly administer steroids to older athletes, rather than have an underground society that is unregulated.

[ZOOT]

What kills me is how steroids are portrayed as a death sentence. Like any drug, food, drink...moderation is the key. If you abuse shit, you pay, end of story. But lets all go out and buy some smokes and whiskey,(all perfectly legal) and it's all good. When I was younger, I did all the bullshit, felt like hell for a number of years. Runnin juice and workin out I'm in the best shape of my life and feel great....Moderation bros

[WidowMaker]

ok, lol. then why do we do blood work and pct, lol?
Just saying....

[STEROID]

ok, lol. then why do we do blood work and pct, lol?
Just saying....

To "PROPERLY" cycle my friend. Doing blood work and running pct only ensures you remain healthy.Smoking kills millions each year and no amount of blood work or pct could stop those deaths.Drinking kills thousands each year.Blood work? PCT??? Will it saves them? No.How many die each tear from "LEGAL","PRESCRIPTION" meds?

Steroids are no more a danger than anything else if done correctly and not "ABUSED".You're confusing the need for blood work and pct.Its not because of problems,its to prevent them.Thats the best part of AAS,(which is unlike any of those other death machines),by monitoring your blood work and running a simple pct,you can counteract all negative effects of running them.

Just answering....

[bigpimpdaddy]

^^ You are correct FIST...^^^^ If AAS is dosed proper and not abused is has less side effect than any of the others mentioned in your post....

[BIGBOSS]

Great post and awesome answer F I S T!!!

[Spawn]

This is so true. You hit the nail on the head with those answers FIST!

[mikeyg51]

DAMNN...I have always read into the medical aspect of AAS and have held the stance that, if used properly, there are not only less side effects, but beneficial! Great article here....People generally hate and condemn things in which they do not know; therefore, misunderstanding steroids=lumping them together with heroin

[Rmewrench]

All I have to say is Bigger, Stronger, Faster most nay sayers that see it have a change of heart....

[STEROID]

All I have to say is Bigger, Stronger, Faster most nay sayers that see it have a change of heart....

I prefer REAL SPORTS with Bryant Gumble on AAS USE.I have the video posted here on board.Great to hear from the EXPERTS in the medical field in addition to actual LIFETIME AAS users who have proven the benefits of AAS when done properly.No better proof than that.

Here's the lunk in case you guys cant find it on board.......
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0768278932315# (http://bodybuilderselite.com/bbelite/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopla y%3Fdocid%3D1214580768278932315%23)

[Rmewrench]

Good video FIST, and actual objective view on aas, wich is not the norm for our mainstream media.
Over all I think it goes to show you how the media can exploit a topic and send out a biased view(all the negative coverage), then cram it down the American publics throat. Actually it fucking disgust me. And the number of people who buy into the mainstream media bullshit. Not just on aas but, any other major happenings in the world, i.e. war, politics. Its like the fucking media doesnt want to show the truth, they'd rather show the doom n gloom side of certain topics. Then on the other hand only portray other topics in a positive light. I have to stop, my blood pressure is climbing....

[Eroids_Hater]

To "PROPERLY" cycle my friend. Doing blood work and running pct only ensures you remain healthy.Smoking kills millions each year and no amount of blood work or pct could stop those deaths.Drinking kills thousands each year.Blood work? PCT??? Will it saves them? No.How many die each tear from "LEGAL","PRESCRIPTION" meds?

Steroids are no more a danger than anything else if done correctly and not "ABUSED".You're confusing the need for blood work and pct.Its not because of problems,its to prevent them.Thats the best part of AAS,(which is unlike any of those other death machines),by monitoring your blood work and running a simple pct,you can counteract all negative effects of running them.

Just answering....

couldn't agree more my good man

[WidowMaker]

To "PROPERLY" cycle my friend. Doing blood work and running pct only ensures you remain healthy.Smoking kills millions each year and no amount of blood work or pct could stop those deaths.Drinking kills thousands each year.Blood work? PCT??? Will it saves them? No.How many die each tear from "LEGAL","PRESCRIPTION" meds?

Steroids are no more a danger than anything else if done correctly and not "ABUSED".You're confusing the need for blood work and pct.Its not because of problems,its to prevent them.Thats the best part of AAS,(which is unlike any of those other death machines),by monitoring your blood work and running a simple pct,you can counteract all negative effects of running them.

Just answering....

I understand all this as I am just pulling on your chain my friend, lol!!!!

[evan_test@250]

People treat steroids like its snake oil..lol but if you notice the only people who do are the people who have no clue what a steroid even fukin is

[mizzou24]

Steroids Are the devil!!!! :p

[yodog73]

Well time to make a road trip time to get see if he is taking any new people.

[metromuscle]

People treat steroids like its snake oil..lol but if you notice the only people who do are the people who have no clue what a steroid even fukin is
I swear to God some of the shit some people have sold me at times was weaker than snake oil ! lol

[Structure88]

Haha ^ I can relate

[fireant]

great info

[315 BEAST]

I swear to God some of the shit some people have sold me at times was weaker than snake oil ! lol

Yeah no kidding lol

[Dath]

Very good info mentioned in this thread,

Bigger, Faster, Stronger.....The Real Sports documentary. Everyone should take the time to Watch these.

[slash75cmd]

Great post.

[Thesuperwallaby]

I swear to God some of the shit some people have sold me at times was weaker than snake oil ! lol

Hey snake oil is probably a little anabolic lol

[davethaflave]

I agree with F.I.S.T.

[JRock]

Good read.

[Stickball]

The only thing I can say about steroids with 100% certainty is that THEY WORK.

[mizzou24]

The only thing I can say about steroids with 100% certainty is that THEY WORK.

They sure do!!! Still you should be respectful of the hormones and monitor your health.. However I agree that most of the damn shit pharm companies release is way more dangerous and tobacco is definitely more dangerous yet it's legal.. Fucked up world..

[morrey90]

I will be a doc one day and i will help to educate people on gear so they arent so ill informed

[Mfire]

Honestly your house is on fire, your kids inside, wouldn't you want someone who has the strength and endurance to save that child? Or say, ahhhh, we gotta fire you because you used steroids and send the fat guy in instead who dies right beside the kid! I've beat the shit outta my body for 20 years doing this job, and it takes a toll on everything, injuries etc. you get so wore down you start to let yourself go because of the constant pain and strain from the shift, now I'm in the best shape I've been in since I was a teen in the military, if I could is hand out pins to my coworkers, because I know this shit works! Why not chemically enhance your workforce to be stronger and more productive, oh wait, it would affect the sales of legal pain pills and the big drug companies and politicians would loose money! Silly Me

[pnasty69]

I believe that they promote a better lifestyle. I feel like they aren't healthy for you because of the synthetic hormone but aren't going to kill you nor have permeant effects on your body. also depends on what steroid it is. Stuff like alcohol tobacco have more effects on your body. But i feel like if you get blood work done and are safe about it you are good!!

[Anzel]

Great thread. Here's my story. Been using AAS for 10 years.
Yesterday went for a complete cardio/ pulmonary evaluation. Took about 4 hrs to complete.

Dr said I am hitting numbers like a man 10years younger.
I still have to go back for them to go over my blood work. They also sonogram my heart and I was told it looks normal..

Enjoy your day!
Anzel
Puritysourcelabs.ru
Euro-Pharmacies.net

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

[lokthai]

Of course they're harmful if not used correctly in massive doses. So is aspirin, vitamins, food et al..
But what steroids? Certainly a big difference between doing a gram of test a week than a gram of tren. Or eating a couple hundred mgs of anadrol a day for weeks or cheque drops like tic tacs. Or combining all the shit together.
Really the title statement is as dumb as all the shit the other side claims. Lol If they were that benign, then basically they'd be useless.
Let's keep it real.


Sent from my SM-J327P using Tapatalk

[Primemuscle]

Just like anything; moderation is key. If you use AAS properly with the correct diet, supplementation and adequate doses as well as making sure your blood work is in line then running gear is rather ‘safe’


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Fancycat69]

I don’t think they’re as harmful as people make it out to be, but I’m not gunna pretend that running a BBer cycle is safe.

Winny alone can cut your HDL in half at 50mgs a day

[joko123]

Some are much worse then others it's a pretty blanket statement to steroids in general aren't harmful at all. It's like comparing weed to heroin


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[BigLifter]

Definitely agree that steroids have been shit on by the mainstream media. Big pharma wants us sick and in pain and needing their shit too much. I’ll not pretend I can’t fuck myself up with steroids if I’m not smart about my decisions, and that’s really what it’s all about. Once you chose your path, it’s only as safe as you make it. I think it was Mark Bell that said take a whole fucking bottle of Test in one day, and a whole bottle of Tylenol the next and see which one fucks you up worse. They see kidney and liver damage from pain pills all the time, ain’t nobody ever overdosed on test.....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[BornFat]

i think trt doses are okay, but abusing steroids is where things could go wrong

[Oldskool]

Love this article! Its been proven time and time again that all the negative press gear gets is 99% propaganda.

Shit everyone knows that natural body builders actually fk up their bodies way more by trying to compete naturally than if they did the sane thing on gear.

Its all bs.

At the very least its fkin ridiculous to give gear a schedule 3 rating

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[M3rlin11]

I agree with a lot that’s being said but you can’t deny the harmful potentially fatal symptoms of EPO or the effect that AIs do to the brain. Yes steroid cycles can be beneficial but if your getting dirty gears that filled with heavy metals or abusing it (let’s face it most of us do) then you will face consequences


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Big ragu]

Steroid abuse is harmful. Continued steroid use will likely shorten your life by a little bit, but let’s be honest. How great are the years past 80 anyway?

[M3rlin11]

Steroid abuse is harmful. Continued steroid use will likely shorten your life by a little bit, but let’s be honest. How great are the years past 80 anyway?

Agreed


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[thebear]

Anything you abuse will kill you. A little bit here and there won’t. Fuck, most of the Rx drugs like statins, SSRIs etc will kill you sooner than ‘steroids.’ Maybe if you dose like Rich P you might die early, but who the fuck does that there days except pros.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Scott84067r]

Anything you abuse will kill you. A little bit here and there won’t. Fuck, most of the Rx drugs like statins, SSRIs etc will kill you sooner than ‘steroids.’ Maybe if you dose like Rich P you might die early, but who the fuck does that there days except pros.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkExactly. I have been watching much more TV than normal due to COVID. the drug commercials are funny yet scary. My father was diagnosed with dementia 18 months ago by a neurologist in his home state. When staying the winter in AZ he saw a world class neurologist who teaches, publishes, and besides a MD is a PhD. Turns out that the cause of the dementia symptoms were a result of a combination of medications he has been prescribed.

I hate trying to find a new doctor. If I find one I want to be listened to. I know my body better than anyone. I have had prostate issues for 8 years starting when I was mid 30s. I would go to the doctor because it felt like I was sitting on a marble and I was told to change my diet by one so-called specialist. My PSA levels were normal but there was something wrong and it took me years to finally kind of get something figured out. So to summarize basically many physicians are just pushing patients through and don't care about the results. When I was a kid and would see a doctor they would take time to get to know you I remember my child doctor telling me or telling my mom about an orthodontist who specialized in children who had bad teeth so I got braces in 4th grade. There aren't many doctors like that anymore.

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

[WatchWho]

Anything you abuse will kill you. A little bit here and there won’t. Fuck, most of the Rx drugs like statins, SSRIs etc will kill you sooner than ‘steroids.’ Maybe if you dose like Rich P you might die early, but who the fuck does that there days except pros.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

100% True. LISTENING solely to your doctor can kill you! Not that they mean any harm but damn...

My endo insisted that type 1 diabetes is perfectly managed at a BG level of 150. This is about double normal levels - and a sure guarantee of eventually going blind and losing a foot - and ending up on dialysis. Sure, that'll take a while but I guess it beats them recommending tighter control and risk a malpractice suit for a patient dying of a hypo event...

My GP had me on 70mg of Vyv@ns3 daily for over a decade.
That was killing me faster than my gear!

[iconpharma]

ahhh good old doctors, legalized pill pushers, biggest drug dealers on this planet. and they dont like competition

[Bigshow300]

100% bro. Well said.

[gtnbig]

Yesir

[Youts]

My body, my choice! So tired of regulations telling me what I can put into my body, if I'm not hurting anyone else they should leave me be.

[*XXL]

My body, my choice! So tired of regulations telling me what I can put into my body, if I'm not hurting anyone else they should leave me be.

Same


What kills, survives. [emoji3582][emoji3582]L

[Bullseye Forever]

I believe anything is hurtful to your body if you over indulge and over do it!! Like most of us here not everyone but we do it to get big and lol better most of us don’t compete but a lot do,the comment about the statins and SSRIs is true they are worse for you then AAS!! IMO!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[JohnMcc]

If they knew the real numbers on the amount of people that use gear with no negative health ramifications, they would legalize them for sure. We all know that it's WAY more common than what people realize. It's just us select few that are confident with ourselves and knowledge to admit we use them. You all hit the nail on the head when saying it's not use but abuse that damages the body. Even at that if that's someone's choice to live life fast and hard, then who are we to say no you're not allowed. We're all here just trying to live our best life we can.

[bigdaddy6900]

What kills me is how steroids are portrayed as a death sentence. Like any drug, food, drink...moderation is the key. If you abuse shit, you pay, end of story. But lets all go out and buy some smokes and whiskey,(all perfectly legal) and it's all good. When I was younger, I did all the bullshit, felt like hell for a number of years. Runnin juice and workin out I'm in the best shape of my life and feel great....Moderation bros

Only if you fuck around and aren’t healthy on them . It’s like eating 10 k calories a day of shit . Anything can kill you if you aren’t healthy . Alcohol is probably worse


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk