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Myergeau91
07-21-2018, 12:02 PM
I am currently running 150mgs of deca and a ml of sus 250 mondays wednesdays fridays with 50 mg of test prop Tuesday Thursday and Saturdays. Just picked up some 50 mg oral winny caps. Was planning on running the deca 8 to 10 weeks for the cycle and I just finished my second week. Was looking for some suggestions on when to toss my winny in . Thanks guys . Beginner here

Dont wanna be old
07-21-2018, 12:09 PM
Start now . I would take 1/day . Eat at lunch if you workout in the evening or after breakfast on weekends.
There is no wrong way to take Winnie .
Good luck
DWBO

Myergeau91
07-21-2018, 01:41 PM
Thanks man I usually hit the gym early mornings as I'm a barber and need to be in work by 8. I was told to wait to last 5 weeks to run it . I'm just excited to see what progress I make from it . I have 50 caps . Now I know cus it's an oral can be strong on the liver . Should I be taking anything to combat that ?

Cowboymike
07-21-2018, 02:03 PM
Thanks man I usually hit the gym early mornings as I'm a barber and need to be in work by 8. I was told to wait to last 5 weeks to run it . I'm just excited to see what progress I make from it . I have 50 caps . Now I know cus it's an oral can be strong on the liver . Should I be taking anything to combat that ?

What AI’s do you have on hand?


Here’s a few supps to consider if running cycles... there’s obviously much more, but you get the picture... you definitely need to support, assist and nurture your organs above all else... joint support is a good idea to imo

Tudca, NAC, C01Q, Potassium Citrate, Vit D3, Vit B6, Vit E, Hawthorn Berry, Celery seed extract, Super B complex, Wild Alaskan Fish oil, Glucosamine, MSM, Chondroitin, Turmeric, Vita-liver, Liver Support, S-Acetyl Glutathione, Organ Defender, Elderberry, Taurine

Myergeau91
07-22-2018, 01:35 PM
And those are all otc vitamins and supps I currently got adex on hand. Have only had to take about 2 of them over the past 3 months . Before the deca I was running test prop 100 mg epdm 2 MLS of sus 250 a week on top of a 6 week cycle of dbol. And during that times when I took the ais. I've seen great results packed on almost 30 lbs so far

Dannyboy515
07-22-2018, 06:08 PM
I just finished up this cycle couple months ago. Im a big test/ deca and finish with winny fan. I was runnin a bit higher than you are but doesnt matter. I would run the deca a bit longer, 10wks kinda cuts it short. But either way, you can run the winny during the test deca if you want. I usually start winny a week before my last deca shot and run it 4 or 6 wks. Deca will help a bit with the joints, but the winny will get rid of the water you hold from the deca pretty quick and show you what you have left after runnin the deca. I think its a great compliment for the 4 wks or so after a deca run

Dannyboy515
07-22-2018, 06:11 PM
Also any oral has liver toxicity to a point but many times it overblown. Winny will have more of an impact on your cholesterol than anything, usually dropping your hdl by half within the first few days. Levels will come back about 2-3months after you get off winny.

I still tend to go overboard on liver care a bit. When tlrunnin any orals i use choline and inositol at 3000mg each per day while on oral amd 1500mg per day maintenance, UDCA, NAC. That covers alot of ground as far as liver.

Charger69
07-24-2018, 04:59 AM
Also any oral has liver toxicity to a point but many times it overblown. Winny will have more of an impact on your cholesterol than anything, usually dropping your hdl by half within the first few days. Levels will come back about 2-3months after you get off winny.

I still tend to go overboard on liver care a bit. When tlrunnin any orals i use choline and inositol at 3000mg each per day while on oral amd 1500mg per day maintenance, UDCA, NAC. That covers alot of ground as far as liver.

Winnie is special. The only one that I am aware of that is Just as toxic injected.


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Charger69
07-24-2018, 05:01 AM
I personally would not use Winnie while on deca. Let you bulk cycle bulk you and then cut with a cut cycle with Winnie.
My $.02


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LowT
07-24-2018, 09:24 AM
I am currently running 150mgs of deca and a ml of sus 250 mondays wednesdays fridays with 50 mg of test prop Tuesday Thursday and Saturdays. Just picked up some 50 mg oral winny caps. Was planning on running the deca 8 to 10 weeks for the cycle and I just finished my second week. Was looking for some suggestions on when to toss my winny in . Thanks guys . Beginner here

Odd pinning schedule. You're stopping the cycle too soon, imo. Deca is just getting fired up at week 8. I'd run it for 12 if it were me. Run the sust for 14 weeks and start winny at week 9 or 10. That's just me, tho.

Myergeau91
07-24-2018, 10:45 AM
Ok cool ya I'm getting a lot of different mixed opinions on how long to run the deca but most people have said to take it to 12 weeks . I think that's gonna be the new plan . Run the deca for the 12 and toss the winny in around week 8 week 9. I wanna run them together to kinda balance each other out with the joints . I know winnys gonna dry me right up but the deca will keep everything nice n lubed up .and as to the pinning schedule I originally dropped the prop the first 2 weeks of deca and sus but saw decrease in stamina and strength in gym right away so tossed n the 50mg prop eod just to get that extra little push .

Myergeau91
07-24-2018, 10:47 AM
Was told to up my water intake and fish oils while on winny also so gonna go pick up so otc supps for when I do start. Thanks for all the input def gonna run the deca a little longer as that seems to be the main tip I've recieved from everyone

Charger69
07-24-2018, 12:08 PM
Was told to up my water intake and fish oils while on winny also so gonna go pick up so otc supps for when I do start. Thanks for all the input def gonna run the deca a little longer as that seems to be the main tip I've recieved from everyone

You could even extend it out to 15 weeks if you want. You may also want to switch to test E instead of prop.


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crazed
07-25-2018, 12:05 PM
I am currently running 150mgs of deca and a ml of sus 250 mondays wednesdays fridays with 50 mg of test prop Tuesday Thursday and Saturdays. Just picked up some 50 mg oral winny caps. Was planning on running the deca 8 to 10 weeks for the cycle and I just finished my second week. Was looking for some suggestions on when to toss my winny in . Thanks guys . Beginner here
Only use Winny if you are lean enough to see the results. Too many ppl think it's a fat burner which it is not. I use it in prep the last 6 weeks when my bf is say 6% or less.

Vision
07-25-2018, 07:09 PM
Start now . I would take 1/day . Eat at lunch if you workout in the evening or after breakfast on weekends.
There is no wrong way to take Winnie .
Good luck
DWBO
this.. I add winny right off that start of my blasts, I always take with food or something in my belly.. winny has a really respectable half life so taking it anytime is good, just take it!

G160
07-25-2018, 08:12 PM
I personally would not use Winnie while on deca. Let you bulk cycle bulk you and then cut with a cut cycle with Winnie.
My $.02


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As counterproductive as its sounds theres synergy between the 2 and also dht/19nor combinations for me have been life savers..


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MoreGains90
08-01-2018, 09:38 AM
Winny for cutting imo