First Cycle Log - 500mg Test E(Will include photos)

[Micki420]

5'7
23 years old
13-14% bf
161 lb

5x5 lifts:
deadlift- 335x5
squat - 365x5
bench - 235x5


ON TO THE CYCLE!

I was going to add T-bol, but I decided I will take this cycle nice and slow and just do 500mg Test-E.

I will be pinning on 8/6/18


Test-E - 500mg - 1-12 weeks
HCG - 500iu - 1-14 weeks(Get off 3 days prior to PCT)
Arimidex .5 EOD

drawing with 21x1 pinning with 23x1.5. Mixing 500iu with the 500mg of test every Monday and Thursday.



PCT:
Clomid 50/50/25/25 (tel:50/50/25/25)
Nolva 40/40/20/20 (tel:40/40/20/20)
Arimidex .5 EOD
Mk2866 30mg - 4 weeks

Total Test - 605
Free test - 175
Estrodial - 30
Lipids - All healthy, but low HDL at 25 and LDL is 90.
liver - all very healthy
TSH - 1.5

6 weeks in:
Total Test: higher than 1100. “H>1100”
Free Test: 370(normal range is 50-200)
SHBG: 8.9(normal range is 10-50
Estradiol: 43.0(normal is 0-39)
Direct Billirubin: 0.25(normal is 0-0.40)
Liver - All within range

(Will post cholesterol tomorrow)

Measurements: In inches

Right arm - 15.8 - flexed
Left arm - 15.2 - flexed
Chest - 41
Left calf - 15 inch
Right calf - 15.5
Right quad - 22
Left quad - 21.5
Waist - 30
right forearm - 11.75
left forearm - 12
Right wrist- 7
Left wrist- 7.5

6 weeks in


16.3 right arm
16.0 left arm
42.5 chest
15 left calf
16 right calf
22.75 right quad
22.0 left quad
32 waist
11.85 right forearm
12 left forearm
7.75 right wrist
8.4 left wrist

Photos: Top 3 are a pump, Bottom 3 no pump.

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/Pumpedup1.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JCK)

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/Pumpedup2.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JC5)

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/BackFlexed.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JCZ)

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/Backnoflex.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JCc)

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/doublebicepnopumpa70f0.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JCB)

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/02/SidePosenopump.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4JCE)

Stay Tuned!

End of week 2:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/26/226B267F-F387-4D8E-829F-F38187C623F9.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4Lv0)



End of week 3
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/26/4660747E-E276-466C-B44C-9F3A57C01159.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4LvD)

End of week 4: 176lb
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/09/02/CDCD6842-C926-4943-AC81-AC53B9EEC72F.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4mdQ)

End of week 5: 174.5lb - added cardio- 3300 calories - new flex
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/09/08/D2FD3E1E-1FFA-419B-9193-8635D4D09B44.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4FVV)

End of week 6:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/09/22/9554E40E-AF20-4963-803E-FDE377B07201.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4ao2)

Week 7:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/35DBA03F-ED6E-40F7-A45B-3327A076B740.md.jpg (http://[URL="https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/TlQD%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttps://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/35DBA03F-ED6E-40F7-A45B-3327A076B740.md.jpg%5B/img%5D%5B/url")

Week 8:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/53480352-A602-4437-ACF9-E5EBAC5E03CD.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/TlQl%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttps://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/53480352-A602-4437-ACF9-E5EBAC5E03CD.md.jpg%5B/img%5D%5B/url)

Week 9:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/4E950864-690A-4CCF-A2CE-24A1DBB24BC3.md.jpg (http://[URL="https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/TlQr%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttps://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/4E950864-690A-4CCF-A2CE-24A1DBB24BC3.md.jpg%5B/img%5D%5B/url")

Week 10:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/4337CD31-442D-47AE-9DCC-F40AE32DB426.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/TlQM%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttps://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/10/28/4337CD31-442D-47AE-9DCC-F40AE32DB426.md.jpg%5B/img%5D%5B/url)

[Fancycat69]

Nice man. It’s refreshing to see a guy starting his first cycle with test only. Seeing too many people jump straight on the tren train and it’s frustrating.

Anyways .5 arimidex EOD may be a little much for 500mgs, maybe debate going E3D. I just say that cause arimidex is harsh on your lipids, and seeing that you already have a lower HDL that could be problematic. But I’m my opinion it’s not too big of a deal, everyone reacts differently.

That is ostarine your taking with PCT? I’d be careful there because ostarine is mildly suppressive, so taking that during a time when you’re trying to restore your levels could be problematic

[docgreen77]

Nice brother. Like what FC says. Gotta crawl before you can walk. Some guys think more is better. I learned the hard way too. Had to untuck my tail and go back to the basics


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[Barca1323]

Good luck!


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[Micki420]

Nice man. It’s refreshing to see a guy starting his first cycle with test only. Seeing too many people jump straight on the tren train and it’s frustrating.

Anyways .5 arimidex EOD may be a little much for 500mgs, maybe debate going E3D. I just say that cause arimidex is harsh on your lipids, and seeing that you already have a lower HDL that could be problematic. But I’m my opinion it’s not too big of a deal, everyone reacts differently.

That is ostarine your taking with PCT? I’d be careful there because ostarine is mildly suppressive, so taking that during a time when you’re trying to restore your levels could be problematic

Yeah, I wanted to add an oral, but I think ill put on more than enough size with 500mg of test. Only reason why I was thinking .5 arimidex EOD was that when I pct'd after my sarms 10 weeks I took clomid 50/50/25 and nolva 40/20/20 and I experienced elevated levels of estrogen, 56! So, It seems i'm prone to estrogen rising and want to be safe as I can get as many tests as I want!

Mk2866 does not become mildly suppressive until after week 4. So ill continue pct past week 4 if needed, but stop Mk2866 at week 4!

Thank you for your feedback!

[Micki420]

Nice brother. Like what FC says. Gotta crawl before you can walk. Some guys think more is better. I learned the hard way too. Had to untuck my tail and go back to the basics


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Thank you! I agree with FC. I was arrogant and wanting to go on tbol+test, but either way ill put on muscle and I want to know how my body reacts on test only. I think health is more important than gains when it comes to taking things slow. Which might sound hypocritical getting on juice! haha

[Micki420]

Good luck!


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Thank you!!! I am so excited!

[Starhopper]

Good luck to you, I think you will put on some great size with the Test only cycle, and a wise choice. I'm 4.5 weeks into my first cycle (Pinning, have ran oral PH's a few years back) and decided to stick with just Test. I'm running 500mg Test Cyp per week and loving it!! Putting on size and dropping Bf (Eating real clean and that can be tough somedays) I might add Superdrol the last 4 weeks of my cycle just because I have ran it in the past and by then I should be well aware of how I'm reacting to just Test Cyp.

Again, great choice on your Test only first cycle!! I will be following along.

[Micki420]

Good luck to you, I think you will put on some great size with the Test only cycle, and a wise choice. I'm 4.5 weeks into my first cycle (Pinning, have ran oral PH's a few years back) and decided to stick with just Test. I'm running 500mg Test Cyp per week and loving it!! Putting on size and dropping Bf (Eating real clean and that can be tough somedays) I might add Superdrol the last 4 weeks of my cycle just because I have ran it in the past and by then I should be well aware of how I'm reacting to just Test Cyp.

Again, great choice on your Test only first cycle!! I will be following along.

Thank you for this! I am extremely excited and my diet is VERY clean. My Marcos are 260/300/80 for now until I start putting on some size then I will adjust around the 5-6 week mark.
Im hoping to add 10-12 pounds of muscle and get closer to 10% bf. we will see!

[LowT]

Yeah, start with .25 on the Adex. Don't start looking or gains til around week 5-6.

Good first cycle.
Have fun.

[Micki420]

Yeah, start with .25 on the Adex. Don't start looking or gains til around week 5-6.

Good first cycle.
Have fun.

I recieved high estrogen on pct(with no arimidex) after my sarms cycle. I assume I am susceptible of having my estrogen raised. So, I was thinking of doing .5 E3D and week 4-5 when it stabilizes I’ll do .5 EOD. Mostly because splitting these little fuckers into 1/4ths will be tough as shit.

Thank you! Hopefully the gains are REALLLLLL

[Micki420]

Pin #1.

I literately sat in the bathroom from 2pm to 6pm trying to pin my ass with this 23x1.5 needle. The bitch was so big....my hands were shaking and I chickened out. So, I called my buddy, met at our gym. We went into a private bathroom and down she went. Pinned 250mg of test and 250-300iu of HCG. Also, I consumed .25 arimidex.

psychologically it was very difficult for me as I’ve always hated needles, but I will overcome this and get to do it myself soon as as I can. The pain from the 1.5 inch was not all that bad. Hopefully I’ll be able to pin myself Thursday and I look forward to a productive cycle! I think I have PFP, post flick pain. I flicked the part of my ass I was injecting about 100 times. That’s what hurts the most right now lol. I bled very very slightly. One wipe away, it was gone. I rubbed it in for 60 seconds and.....I’ve now entered the dark side.

time to work out and hit this push/pull day.

workout routine:

Monday: push/pull
Tuesday: legs
Wednesday: shoulders/traps
Thursday: legs
Friday: push/pull
Saturday: arms

p.s there were a shit ton of tiny air bubbles. 30 min after pin, my ass is sore. I think injection was possibly too quick. 15-20 seconds.

[Capebuffalo]

It will get easier. My first month of pinning I would lay face down on the bed and shoot my glute. You may ask why? I was afraid I may pass out and fall and hit my head on something. Lol. It will get easier.

[Micki420]

It will get easier. My first month of pinning I would lay face down on the bed and shoot my glute. You may ask why? I was afraid I may pass out and fall and hit my head on something. Lol. It will get easier.

Hahaha that was a funny story. I do hope it gets better. My ass is insanely sore 6 hours later. When I walk I can feel
that shit. I wasn’t about to pass out, but I just couldn’t pin it myself. 1.5 just looks too big!!

[insulationman]

Try delt or legs , way easier to pin

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[Snookslayer05]

Make sure if your buddy does it for you again. Stress to them keep a straight steady pin. I had a buddy fuck me up bad one time because he had shaky hands doing it for me. And felt like he just shredded all my muscle inside of me. The next shot I got my adrenaline going and did it myself super slow and steady. And didn’t hurt the tiniest bit.

[Micki420]

Make sure if your buddy does it for you again. Stress to them keep a straight steady pin. I had a buddy fuck me up bad one time because he had shaky hands doing it for me. And felt like he just shredded all my muscle inside of me. The next shot I got my adrenaline going and did it myself super slow and steady. And didn’t hurt the tiniest bit.

My buddy pins himself and he’s cycled about 3-4 times. I got lucky by finding him as a friend and finding out about his gear use. I felt like the 1.5 inch was maybe too deep for me. He said He didn’t put it in all the way as he said he could tell when he was in the muscle and if it went deeper it hurt slightly, but the whole injection wasn’t bad.

[Micki420]

Try delt or legs , way easier to pin

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i will have to order 23x1 pins.

[Snookslayer05]

My buddy pins himself and he’s cycled about 3-4 times. I got lucky by finding him as a friend and finding out about his gear use. I felt like the 1.5 inch was maybe too deep for me. He said He didn’t put it in all the way as he said he could tell when he was in the muscle and if it went deeper it hurt slightly, but the whole injection wasn’t bad.


Gotcha yea having a close friend that does it also is nice. Just looking at needles fucks me up. Broke my arm as a kid and I just remember seeing this needle in hospital like 2-3 inches long and super fat. Idk why they need one so fucking big but they stuck it in my arm where the break was I think. Ever since then I have them. I was like 5 years old. And seeing that lady with that huge needle I’ll never forget. Try 1” needle. If he said he didn’t have to put it in all the way. 23 guage at 1”

[Snookslayer05]

Looking forward to seeing your results. You say this is your first cycle. I don’t know if you read the forum post about first cycles. But makes a lot of sense. Simple guideline to go by. 29048

[Micki420]

Gotcha yea having a close friend that does it also is nice. Just looking at needles fucks me up. Broke my arm as a kid and I just remember seeing this needle in hospital like 2-3 inches long and super fat. Idk why they need one so fucking big but they stuck it in my arm where the break was I think. Ever since then I have them. I was like 5 years old. And seeing that lady with that huge needle I’ll never forget. Try 1” needle. If he said he didn’t have to put it in all the way. 23 guage at 1”

Jesus, I will never understand why nurses or doctors use large needles. They’re not in a rush I hope haha. I hate hate hate needles and when I was younger I cried when I needed to get shots. Now, I’m pinning. I would’ve never guessed.

i will try a 1 inch on Thursday and hope it goes well again. This PIP is a pain in the ass cheek. literally.

[Micki420]

Looking forward to seeing your results. You say this is your first cycle. I don’t know if you read the forum post about first cycles. But makes a lot of sense. Simple guideline to go by. 29048

I read the beginner sticky. My cycle is just slightly different. I’m using .25 arimidex for the first week or 2 then .5 EOD. I am most likely injecting 300x2 of hcg because the vial will only take 3ml into 5000iu. So, .2 ml is like 320iu. It’s hard to take less. I didn’t think to take 75 of clomid first week. I did take 50mg clomid and 40 of nolva then second week same clomid and 20 nolva after sarms and my test went back to normal and it increased my estrogen into the 50’s during pct. so, I believe an AI is needed. I experienced bloat.

[rockdogg]

You will blow up with a solid base like that bro. You cant take adex during pct. Only aromasin but if your on nolva that should be enough. Wouldn't bother with ostarine either its suppressive and always makes me feel like shit anyway. Doesnt agree with me. With hcg while on you should recover quickly. Hope it goes well.

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[rockdogg]

Jesus, I will never understand why nurses or doctors use large needles. They’re not in a rush I hope haha. I hate hate hate needles and when I was younger I cried when I needed to get shots. Now, I’m pinning. I would’ve never guessed.

i will try a 1 inch on Thursday and hope it goes well again. This PIP is a pain in the ass cheek. literally.1.5 in the arse cheek should be perfect mate. 1 inch everywhere else. Its probably just virgin muscle pip which case heat packs and massage are the best remedy.

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[Micki420]

You will blow up with a solid base like that bro. You cant take adex during pct. Only aromasin but if your on nolva that should be enough. Wouldn't bother with ostarine either its suppressive and always makes me feel like shit anyway. Doesnt agree with me. With hcg while on you should recover quickly. Hope it goes well.

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Correct me if I am wrong, Rock, but I hear .25 of Adex during pct should be fine. I’m worried, mostly because I got elevated E2 during pct for sarms(LGD and s4). I don’t have aromasin, my dealer doesn’t sell it, but I would like to find a new source anyway. If you have suggestions.

as far as mk2866. I’ve used it and it works well. What I’ve read is that it is suppressive after 4 weeks. So, I contemplated a 6 week pct even and mk2866 for 4 weeks. I just want to be safe as possible and keep the gains! Thank you for the compliment on my solid base. I’ve worked hard and changes taking months and years, just got me irritated watching people like skywalker be aesthetically pleasing with all the effort I put in and not even being close.

my virgin ass has been suffering all day. Maybe Thursday will be best. Thinking if I should do my left ass cheek or stick with my right. I gotta work up to pinning myself before I go anywhere else.

[chadmack282]

It will get easier. My first month of pinning I would lay face down on the bed and shoot my glute. You may ask why? I was afraid I may pass out and fall and hit my head on something. Lol. It will get easier.

I have had a shitty fkn day! & then I read your post & holly s hit that is some funny s hit!
Big thanks for that post😂!!

[chadmack282]

Correct me if I am wrong, Rock, but I hear .25 of Adex during pct should be fine. I’m worried, mostly because I got elevated E2 during pct for sarms(LGD and s4). I don’t have aromasin, my dealer doesn’t sell it, but I would like to find a new source anyway. If you have suggestions.

as far as mk2866. I’ve used it and it works well. What I’ve read is that it is suppressive after 4 weeks. So, I contemplated a 6 week pct even and mk2866 for 4 weeks. I just want to be safe as possible and keep the gains! Thank you for the compliment on my solid base. I’ve worked hard and changes taking months and years, just got me irritated watching people like skywalker be aesthetically pleasing with all the effort I put in and not even being close.

my virgin ass has been suffering all day. Maybe Thursday will be best. Thinking if I should do my left ass cheek or stick with my right. I gotta work up to pinning myself before I go anywhere else.

Several of the BOP sponsors carry Aromisin, highly recommend it.
I love ostarine in PCT but limit it to 4weeks.

[Micki420]

Several of the BOP sponsors carry Aromisin, highly recommend it.
I love ostarine in PCT but limit it to 4weeks.

Any top teir recommendations?

I will be doing the 4 weeks of Ostarine in the post u replied to. I’m glad I finally have some feedback about it in pct.

[Micki420]

Leg day, day after pinning.

my right ass cheek is so god damn sore From this test-E 350. My right leg started to shake slightly In The middle of of my workout. Its really tight from the RDL’s and good mornings.

suggestion: I should have done legs Wednesday or Saturday. Which would be 2 days after pinning not 1 on the first week.

[rockdogg]

If you are running high nolva in pct the E shouldnt bind. I'm fairly certain adex inhibits recovery. Go aromasin or nolva bro.

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[WILDGAME]

If it hurts or sore after your pinning wrong spot. It doesn't actually go in your butt. I use same point as you and NEVER, EVER am sore or hurt.
As far as sure bubbles... The gage needle used for test is to big in diameter to ever enter a vein.
Grab your hip bone with 4 fingers. Slid your thumb around to your backside. Which will be just below your waist but just above your butt.

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[WILDGAME]

The one and only time I pinned in my thigh I ended up in the hospital. Never again...

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[superdrolgyno]

Use a slin pin. No reason to use those big ol harpoons. 27-31g. Ive used 3 sponsors from here and they all flow easily through no problem at all

[Micki420]

If it hurts or sore after your pinning wrong spot. It doesn't actually go in your butt. I use same point as you and NEVER, EVER am sore or hurt.
As far as sure bubbles... The gage needle used for test is to big in diameter to ever enter a vein.
Grab your hip bone with 4 fingers. Slid your thumb around to your backside. Which will be just below your waist but just above your butt.

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It pinned in the area that is like, above my ass, but below that patch of fat around my kidney's. As I mentioned, The friend whom did it is experienced with pinning. It became sore about 8 hours after. Not enough to stop my work out, but definitely hurts if I press on it.

[Micki420]

Use a slin pin. No reason to use those big ol harpoons. 27-31g. Ive used 3 sponsors from here and they all flow easily through no problem at all

I was thinking a 25x1...23 didn't really hurt at all tbh. It was the PIP that is fucking with me. Also im using 350 Test E....shit is thiiiiccccc. I am just so excited for gains :D

[Micki420]

If you are running high nolva in pct the E shouldnt bind. I'm fairly certain adex inhibits recovery. Go aromasin or nolva bro.

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For sarms I did 50 clomid and 40 nolva. It was when I lowered the nolva dose to 20 in the second week is when I felt the bloat coming and got tested and boom 50 estradiol. I’ll just keep a high dose of nolva and scout for some aromasin. Thank you for that advice! Any source you suggest?

[madhungarian]

If it hurts or sore after your pinning wrong spot. It doesn't actually go in your butt. I use same point as you and NEVER, EVER am sore or hurt.
As far as sure bubbles... The gage needle used for test is to big in diameter to ever enter a vein.
Grab your hip bone with 4 fingers. Slid your thumb around to your backside. Which will be just below your waist but just above your butt.

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You don't think a 25 or 27 gauge would enter a vein? Wrong.

[rockdogg]

For sarms I did 50 clomid and 40 nolva. It was when I lowered the nolva dose to 20 in the second week is when I felt the bloat coming and got tested and boom 50 estradiol. I’ll just keep a high dose of nolva and scout for some aromasin. Thank you for that advice! Any source you suggest?Aipct shop is a sponsor and definitely got the best prices

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[Micki420]

Pin #2 - left glute. 250mg Test/250 IU HCG.

Today was another push/pull day. I had my buddy inject it when I was laying down. For some reason when I draw the .8ml of test. It draws fine, but when I mix the HCG with the oil or vice versa. I’ve noticed the water and oil mix create a few bubbles, not just the smaller ones. There were 3 larger bubbles I had to thoroughly heat up the syringe to get rid of some. This injection was ALOT smoother. I did not shake or jump this time around. No pain right after injection and got to continue my workout.

This may may be a mental thing, but I feel as if I am more confident in the gym. I am able to push what feels like more weight. 80lb dumbbells for incline felt a lot easier. While I know this mostly is a mental thing, isn’t it half mental when it comes to moving weight anyway and not to doubt yourself?

Macros being consumed today. 250/300/80 (tel:250/300/80)

no physical gain other than holding a little water from increase in carbs. I am currently 162.5 this morning from the water and glycogen storages being filled I assume. Overall, first week of pinning went well. No regrets doing test only, my anavar arrives
saturday so, if I feel like I gained a bit more fat than I would like I might mix that in for a couple weeks at the end!

Lets hear some inputs!

[rockdogg]

Bro don't mix them. Test as IM and hcg sub q

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[WILDGAME]

Pin #2 - left glute. 250mg Test/250 IU HCG.

Today was another push/pull day. I had my buddy inject it when I was laying down. For some reason when I draw the .8ml of test. It draws fine, but when I mix the HCG with the oil or vice versa. I’ve noticed the water and oil mix create a few bubbles, not just the smaller ones. There were 3 larger bubbles I had to thoroughly heat up the syringe to get rid of some. This injection was ALOT smoother. I did not shake or jump this time around. No pain right after injection and got to continue my workout.

This may may be a mental thing, but I feel as if I am more confident in the gym. I am able to push what feels like more weight. 80lb dumbbells for incline felt a lot easier. While I know this mostly is a mental thing, isn’t it half mental when it comes to moving weight anyway and not to doubt yourself?

Macros being consumed today. 250/300/80 (tel:250/300/80)

no physical gain other than holding a little water from increase in carbs. I am currently 162.5 this morning from the water and glycogen storages being filled I assume. Overall, first week of pinning went well. No regrets doing test only, my anavar arrives
saturday so, if I feel like I gained a bit more fat than I would like I might mix that in for a couple weeks at the end!

Lets hear some inputs!Yeah, I wouldn't be mixing the two being they are two completely different substances. I could be wrong but I thought hcg, hgh and the likes were shot into the stomach area with a diabetic type point/dart.

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[WILDGAME]

You don't think a 25 or 27 gauge would enter a vein? Wrong.It would be a huge vein and there's none that large in your buttock area. Also... We were talking about a 2 3 here I thought. If it were that easy to hit a vein I don't feel like the doc works turn you loose doing it yourself. If it were doable I would think the doc would warn you of it before turning you loose to administer own hits. I was never warned of it. I have seen some guys with huge veins in arms but we aren't hitting ourselfs there. I personally don't care for needles and I'd I thought fire one second I could puncture a vein I would NOT be doing this. I'm pretty sure if you shot test. Into a vein it might just kill ya! I varied from the upper buttock area only once. I hit my thigh, never again! Leg swelled up to twice it's size. Not sure what I did wrong but I'll never pin anywhere but the rear ever again.

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[Micki420]

Yeah, I wouldn't be mixing the two being they are two completely different substances. I could be wrong but I thought hcg, hgh and the likes were shot into the stomach area with a diabetic type point/dart.

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Well, the biggest thing for me was the fact of mixing an oil and a water based compounds. From my research you are definitely okay in injecting HCG in your glute which is still intramuscular. Hcg is very common and people usually use insulin needles to administer them as it’s easier than injecting a 1.5 inch needles for HCG alone.

Im going to try to thoroughly warm up both vials before drawing and see if the bubbles go away.

[korsaire]

no reason you can mic water an oil like you do

[rockdogg]

Well, the biggest thing for me was the fact of mixing an oil and a water based compounds. From my research you are definitely okay in injecting HCG in your glute which is still intramuscular. Hcg is very common and people usually use insulin needles to administer them as it’s easier than injecting a 1.5 inch needles for HCG alone.

Im going to try to thoroughly warm up both vials before drawing and see if the bubbles go away.You can do it. But it stings like fuck as an IM injection. Better off going sub q with a slin pin for HCG and IM with your oils. Mixing the two isn't a great idea.

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[Micki420]

You can do it. But it stings like fuck as an IM injection. Better off going sub q with a slin pin for HCG and IM with your oils. Mixing the two isn't a great idea.

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it does sting slightly, but It’s nothing serious. My biggest thing was that I thought the bubbles were causing a stinging pain. I also still have the slightest pip on my right glute from Monday and mediocre pip on my left from yesterday.

i REALLY hate needles. So, I will keep both together as it is tough for me to pin one, let alone 2 on both days.

[Markas61]

My hospital sticks 23
1 1/2 and 25 7/8 along with tuberculin and insulin syringes. No 1" at all.

[Micki420]

My hospital sticks 23
1 1/2 and 25 7/8 along with tuberculin and insulin syringes. No 1" at all.

Thank you for this. I suppose I will stick with the 23x1.5

[WILDGAME]

Thank you for this. I suppose I will stick with the 23x1.5That's what I prefer to use. 23, 11/2. I've always heard it works better the deeper into muscle the injection is/needel penetrates.

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[Micki420]

That's what I prefer to use. 23, 11/2. I've always heard it works better the deeper into muscle the injection is/needel penetrates.

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I heard the same. Not sure if it’s a myth. The deeper the gear gets into the muscle the more potent it can be? I’ve heard this often that you want to get deeper. To me, it doesn’t make sense as why does it matter as long as you’re in the muscle.

[Micki420]

So, today is my off day and I’m finally relaxing after a very hard week of training and eating. Glycogen storages are filled it feels and the increase of carbs definitely am holding more water, but feeling more full. I increased to 164lb from 161 a week ago. I wouldn’t call it the test kicking in, but I am getting more random boners which is odd. Also, my balls feel bigger and fuller. Maybe from the HCG?

I was randomly just checking my chest. I have no raised estrogen symptoms. No sensitive nipples, no itchy arm pits or nipples, but this is very strange. I have a small ball/lump about an inch or inch and a half north from my nipples. I have never ever checked my chest out. I am not sure if it’s just part of the gland or what. It’s on both sides of my chest. It is NOT sensitive, but I just find it weird. I thought it was gyno, but it is so far from my nipples, it’s not sensitive, it’s on both sides, no raised estro sides, and I’m taking AI. Anyone else have this too? Feels like a small ball of fat 4 fingers from my nipple.

[insulationman]

Could be cystic acne . I get these lumps and they won't pop , I'll take a 22g needle tip n pop them , then j rub tee tree oil on it. Cetaphil soap helps acne too . Buy it at Wal-Mart near the stridex pads .Give it a few days . It's too far from ur nip to be gyno unless you're growing a third pec
So, today is my off day and I’m finally relaxing after a very hard week of training and eating. Glycogen storages are filled it feels and the increase of carbs definitely am holding more water, but feeling more full. I increased to 164lb from 161 a week ago. I wouldn’t call it the test kicking in, but I am getting more random boners which is odd. Also, my balls feel bigger and fuller. Maybe from the HCG?

I was randomly just checking my chest. I have no raised estrogen symptoms. No sensitive nipples, no itchy arm pits or nipples, but this is very strange. I have a small ball/lump about an inch or inch and a half north from my nipples. I have never ever checked my chest out. I am not sure if it’s just part of the gland or what. It’s on both sides of my chest. It is NOT sensitive, but I just find it weird. I thought it was gyno, but it is so far from my nipples, it’s not sensitive, it’s on both sides, no raised estro sides, and I’m taking AI. Anyone else have this too? Feels like a small ball of fat 4 fingers from my nipple.

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[G160]

So, today is my off day and I’m finally relaxing after a very hard week of training and eating. Glycogen storages are filled it feels and the increase of carbs definitely am holding more water, but feeling more full. I increased to 164lb from 161 a week ago. I wouldn’t call it the test kicking in, but I am getting more random boners which is odd. Also, my balls feel bigger and fuller. Maybe from the HCG?

I was randomly just checking my chest. I have no raised estrogen symptoms. No sensitive nipples, no itchy arm pits or nipples, but this is very strange. I have a small ball/lump about an inch or inch and a half north from my nipples. I have never ever checked my chest out. I am not sure if it’s just part of the gland or what. It’s on both sides of my chest. It is NOT sensitive, but I just find it weird. I thought it was gyno, but it is so far from my nipples, it’s not sensitive, it’s on both sides, no raised estro sides, and I’m taking AI. Anyone else have this too? Feels like a small ball of fat 4 fingers from my nipple.

Okay is it a hard lump with no sensitivity to pain? Hows your estro control been? Have you tanked it?


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[G160]

My guess as crasy as it sounds is a fibroadenoma (cyst) round ball like usually gets confused for cancer alot. If your nipple looks fine you should be fine but watch your hormones if you can afford a blood pannel with prog/estro/test id do it see where you at to better keep track of things.


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[Micki420]

Could be cystic acne . I get these lumps and they won't pop , I'll take a 22g needle tip n pop them , then j rub tee tree oil on it. Cetaphil soap helps acne too . Buy it at Wal-Mart near the stridex pads .Give it a few days . It's too far from ur nip to be gyno unless you're growing a third pec

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I’ve never had acne in my life. So, it’s odd. It’s In the same spot on both sides. It’s quite far away yeah. I’ve checked my nipple itself when I raise my arm up to get good feel, because I have large pecs. Nipple feels like an empty hole of nothingness. I know for a fact it’s not gyno as it’s not sensitive whatsoever. It feels like a small ball of moveable fat that can only be felt when pressed on hard.

[Micki420]

Okay is it a hard lump with no sensitivity to pain? Hows your estro control been? Have you tanked it?


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its firm, yet squishy of a lump. Very moveable, but not sensitive in the least bit. My estrogen control has been fine. I’m taking arimidex .25 EOD the first week and I just bumped it to .5 today. My estrogen feels fine as I have no symptoms of elevated estrogen. No sensitivity, no itchiness, no puffiness(other than what I had before cycle). I feel completely fine, just found this weird small ball of what feels like fat.

[G160]

its firm, yet squishy of a lump. Very moveable, but not sensitive in the least bit. My estrogen control has been fine. I’m taking arimidex .25 EOD the first week and I just bumped it to .5 today. My estrogen feels fine as I have no symptoms of elevated estrogen. No sensitivity, no itchiness, no puffiness(other than what I had before cycle). I feel completely fine, just found this weird small ball of what feels like fat.

Yeah if its really hard lump i wouldnt even google it, ive had a few myself but felt more like glandular tissue i freaked out. It resolved itself after the doc visit.


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[Micki420]

My guess as crasy as it sounds is a fibroadenoma (cyst) round ball like usually gets confused for cancer alot. If your nipple looks fine you should be fine but watch your hormones if you can afford a blood pannel with prog/estro/test id do it see where you at to better keep track of things.


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Nipple is completely fine. I believe it is a cyst as well. I have a cyst in my upper pec in my collarbone that moves as well. It feels the same consistency. Plus, it’s so god damn far from my nipple. 4 fingers north of the actual nipple. It’s almost in the middle of my chest lol. It must’ve been there prior to pinning cause it’s ony been a week. Just wonder what it could be. Thankfully my nips are still fine and I know for a fact it’s not gyno related.

[G160]

Nipple is completely fine. I believe it is a cyst as well. I have a cyst in my upper pec in my collarbone that moves as well. It feels the same consistency. Plus, it’s so god damn far from my nipple. 4 fingers north of the actual nipple. It’s almost in the middle of my chest lol. It must’ve been there prior to pinning cause it’s ony been a week. Just wonder what it could be. Thankfully my nips are still fine and I know for a fact it’s not gyno related.

4 fingers i wouldnt worry about it, shit gets complicated once its really close apparrently


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[Micki420]

Yeah if its really hard lump i wouldnt even google it, ive had a few myself but felt more like glandular tissue i freaked out. It resolved itself after the doc visit.


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I’ve never checked my chest out until now. Never had a reason to do so. It’s on both sides which it may be nornal abd I’m just moving the gland itself. Who the fuck knows. I’ll keep arimidex at .5 EOD anyway

[Micki420]

4 fingers i wouldnt worry about it, shit gets complicated once its really close apparrently


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Yeah, it’s not sensitive. It honestly feels like a small ball of fat. Maybe it’s cause I’m only like 15% bodyfat and am still holding fat. I never had it when I was 10-11% bf. Not that I knew of.

[Micki420]

Pin #3

I did this once again laying down. Pinned right glute. Looks like I’ll just be alternating between my ass cheeks and tear them bitches up. I felt a bit tired as I stupidly didn’t take a day off this weekend. So, my arms and shoulders were very sore. Still haven’t felt much of a difference from the test. I do feel a better sense of well-being. I noticed, I don’t think as negative as I usuallg do about questioning if I can move this weight or do this or that. Weight is up from the diet and possibly helped by the gear whatsoever.

I must say though, this workout routine I made with splits between push pull, legs, shoulders, arms. Its a bit too much for my body as a natural lifter. I come into the gym everyday with something sore and fatigued. I really just can not fucking wait until this shit kicks in and helps me recover faster, the size will just be a added bonus.

contemplating adding anavar at 50mg/day to keep fat gain to a minimum and increasing dosages of arimidex to .5 EOD starting end of this week. Please give me input on if I should add the anavar simply just for keeping off the fat while I am eating all this food and test levels haven’t stabilized.

I will be posting a photo of me every Saturday. I took one last Saturday and will be posting both this Saturday with dates.

[rockdogg]

You need to eat and sleep well. Deep tissue massage and foam roll the tight spots. You'll still get sore as fuck on gear. Maybe even more because you'll push harder. Ventro glute is a good spot. Also delts are so easy man. Pin multiple sites bro.

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[Micki420]

You need to eat and sleep well. Deep tissue massage and foam roll the tight spots. You'll still get sore as fuck on gear. Maybe even more because you'll push harder. Ventro glute is a good spot. Also delts are so easy man. Pin multiple sites bro.

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Did you just say I’ll get MORE SORE on gear? The fuck.....that is not what I want. I sadly couldn’t sleep last night as I had work obligations at 5am. So, it was shitty, just added to my soreness. I am not pinning myself yet, but I’m close to it.

what do you think of the anavar?

[WILDGAME]

Pin #1.

I literately sat in the bathroom from 2pm to 6pm trying to pin my ass with this 23x1.5 needle. The bitch was so big....my hands were shaking and I chickened out. So, I called my buddy, met at our gym. We went into a private bathroom and down she went. Pinned 250mg of test and 250-300iu of HCG. Also, I consumed .25 arimidex.

psychologically it was very difficult for me as I’ve always hated needles, but I will overcome this and get to do it myself soon as as I can. The pain from the 1.5 inch was not all that bad. Hopefully I’ll be able to pin myself Thursday and I look forward to a productive cycle! I think I have PFP, post flick pain. I flicked the part of my ass I was injecting about 100 times. That’s what hurts the most right now lol. I bled very very slightly. One wipe away, it was gone. I rubbed it in for 60 seconds and.....I’ve now entered the dark side.

time to work out and hit this push/pull day.

workout routine:

Monday: push/pull
Tuesday: legs
Wednesday: shoulders/traps
Thursday: legs
Friday: push/pull
Saturday: arms

p.s there were a shit ton of tiny air bubbles. 30 min after pin, my ass is sore. I think injection was possibly too quick. 15-20 seconds.I use a 23 gauge 1 and a half long. Never a issue and I pin myself and everyone else. Hitting on the correct spot is likely the most important. I pinch up a bit of skin and stick then let the go so skin lays flat, then I'll Finnish the insert. Always slow in pinning and plunging. Then rub site in circular motions for at least 30secs.

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[rockdogg]

Did you just say I’ll get MORE SORE on gear? The fuck.....that is not what I want. I sadly couldn’t sleep last night as I had work obligations at 5am. So, it was shitty, just added to my soreness. I am not pinning myself yet, but I’m close to it.

what do you think of the anavar?Sure man gotta tear it to grow right? It will recover faster though if everything else on point.

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[Micki420]

I use a 23 gauge 1 and a half long. Never a issue and I pin myself and everyone else. Hitting on the correct spot is likely the most important. I pinch up a bit of skin and stick then let the go so skin lays flat, then I'll Finnish the insert. Always slow in pinning and plunging. Then rub site in circular motions for at least 30secs.

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I use the same pin. The pinning itself is getting better. Significantly less PIP this time around and I spread the skinand jab then massage.

[Micki420]

Shoulder day - middle of week 2.

Glimpse of definite strength increase and increased endurance. Today was a pump I held onto for a good full 90 minutes that was great and overhead pressed 125x10 130x10 135x10 on free weight. I felt very good today.

Downside is, I feel like I am becoming More sore Than I have felt in quite a while. I wake up feeling very sore. Could be because I am training slightly harder. Also, my core is stronger as I am doing abs almost every day and this circuit work I did today which I tend to struggle on I did all reps and then more. I can not wait until week 6 and beyond.

Eating a strict, but clean diet to put on mass. My weight this morning was 166lb. Abs seem to becoming more defined too, which is definitely odd. I don’t feel as drained on the cut and I just feel a lot more healthy.

Please if someone thinks anavar is a good to mix in please let me know. Also, any tips to cram in more food as hitting macros have been tough and hit or miss. Some days I’m not as hungry or full from the night before.

[Micki420]

Pin #4 left glute.

injection went well. I can feel when the HCG is being Injected as it actually does sting? But can’t be bothered pinning twice. I feel as I will try the right quad next week. Injection was smoother and feels better in left glute than right. Pip is a good 1-2 days after each injection.

working out today felt amazing. I was throwing up 205 on incline bench press, then just repping our 80lb dumbells bench press, because that’s the heaviest dumbells the gym has. The push/pull today felt great. More energized and I feel like I’m slowly becoming hungrier. Eating very clean and have put on roughly 4-5 pounds since the beginning. Just can’t tell if Its water or fat. Weight increase has always bothered me as it was always a way to measure how fat I’m getting. So, it’s a bit tough to see the scale go up, but still liking the way I look.

[Micki420]

8/18/2018

end of second week of cycle.
start weight: 161
current weight: 165

visably looking leaner at the diet.
Macros still 260/300/100 (tel:260/300/100)

noticable strength gains. Nothing astronomical, but I feel better and notice muscles are starting to feel more dense.

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/26/226B267F-F387-4D8E-829F-F38187C623F9.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4Lv0)

[Micki420]

Pin #5 right Glute.

Today was the day I did it myself. My hand was shaking worse than a Parkinson’s disease patient. I can bet my life I tore up my bootycheeks when pressing that shit in and it shaking. The pin went fine. Slightest bit of pip.

The work out was a push/pull day.

Compounds reps are: 30,10,8,5,3,1.

Deadlift - hit 405 new PR the first time
bench - hit 265(which is my PR)
lat pulls - 205
incline bench - 205
dips - 4x15
abs - curcuit abs 4 workouts, 4 sets of 25.

Visually looking leaner. I weighed 167 today. Added in anavar at 50mg a day, just to make sure I limit fat gain. Also, arimidex 0.5 EOD.

[Micki420]

Feeling great and feeling much more full. The weight I’m putting on shows that. The libido is kicking in hard these past couple days. Still eating about 2700-3000 calories a day. It’s hard to stomach all this damn food. I am looking leaner though.

strength gains are DEFINITELY THERE, but I’m feeling slightly anxious and impatient the last couple days.

I know its only week 3, but I’m anxious for this mass to start kicking in. Which should be around week 5-7?

[Micki420]

Pin #6 - I have got ZERO pip on this week 3. So, I did right glute once again. I just feel extremely comfortable with that area. Lots of room for forgiveness in your asscheeks.

pinned 250-280 Test E
250-300iu Of HCG.

i am now taking arimidex E3D. Since I have. I can not control my dick. The chick I am fucking is calling me the Kool-aid man, because I’m busting them walls.

Weight this morning was 169
That’s a long fucking way from 161 already.

strength increase has been great. OHP for 135 for sets and reps, squats and repping out 315 like it ain’t shit for 10.

Had a very intense workout and I am not sore at all from yesterday. I feel great. More energized. Week 3 has been kind to me.

[lifter916]

Nice work bro..keep grinding

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[Micki420]

Nice work bro..keep grinding

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Thank you so much for the motivation! Can’t tell you how much that means!

Just was hitting 225 for incline, safe to say the shit is kicking in.

[Micki420]

8/26/18 - end of week 3. Increase In strength, more than size. No pump.
weight- 169 pounds

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/26/4660747E-E276-466C-B44C-9F3A57C01159.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4LvD)

[rsnaftel]

This was the first post I read . It has inspired me to follow pretty close to your program.

[Micki420]

This was the first post I read . It has inspired me to follow pretty close to your program.

I’m glad I could help even a little! Doing Test only is the best way to go about any of this.
the biggest reason is you need to know how it affects your body and how much AI you need of how estrogen prone you are. I don’t regret it at all! This is starting of week 4 today and I feel amazing and the gains in mass haven’t come in st full force yet!

[Micki420]

Week 4 - pin # 7

pinned right glute again, it’s just going so smooth in that spot and I’m being a pussy about changing it. I will pin quad or left glute again Thursday. To just switch it up. I found a spot it doesn’t hurt at allllllll.
Pinned 250 test
250IU OF HCG.

arimidex .5 on every injection day. I’ve been doing this the past 2 weeks and I’ve felt pretty good. No nipple tenderness. Which is great, plus I’m trying to limit the amount of AI I have to use as I have low HDL naturally.

workout was great - still doing 30/10/8/5/3 (tel:30/10/8/5/3)/1 reps for compounds. These are the 1rm’s below.
deadlift 405x2
bench - 265x1
lat pulldown - 220x1
incline bench - 230x1
dips 4x20

still 169 pounds. Can’t wait for this mass to start hittinnnnnn

[Micki420]

Pin #8 - weight 171.5 - pinned left glute.
- 300mg test
- 300iu HCG
.5 arimidex
50mg anavar

The left glute wasn’t easy, as I am not left hand dominant, but it worked well. No hand shaking and it was not painful whatsoever. These injections have become a lot easier. I was deathly afraid of needles. Almost 4 weeks done and I don’t mind them as much.
update photo: this is me after first set of warming up shoulders. Don’t even have a pump yet and they look pretty good.

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/30/A028C96A-C49C-499A-B091-CE99396703D1.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4Yfe)

[Micki420]

Appetite is up like crazy.
hit 225x2 on incline bench.

feeling aching in medial epocondyl in my elbow. Assuming it’s from tight forearm. Happened from incline of last week.
feeling good in general. Felt more vascular and growth is coming in, but feeling like I’m holding a good amount of water weight too.

Traps and shoulders and upper chest I’ve seen the most improvements on.
still waiting for week 5-6 and further down the road to see how much more I gain. I think I’ve only put on like a couple pounds of muscle in 3 and half weeks so far.

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[Micki420]

Would love some input on this thread!

[Micki420]

End of week 4: 176lb - 9/2/18

up 15 pounds. I believe some of it is water/fat weight. As it’s only week 4. I’ve alao been taking anavar 75mg ED.

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[Micki420]

This is a photo after doing some bicep/tricep workouts and 7 tacos!

im not flexing in these photos. I just wanted to show how I look pumped up relaxed.

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[Micki420]

Pin #9 - right glute

I did this pin standing up for the first time. I lost my balance and my right asscheek flexed and boy, my ass hurts.

lifts were good. 30/10/8/5/3/1 reps
225x8 bench/265x1
deadlift is still at 405x2
incline bench 225x2 / 235x1
lat pulls
dips 4x15

[Micki420]

middle of week 5 - shoulders.

People are telling me I have put on a lot of size at the gym very quickly in 5 weeks. I am still hovering around 15 pounds up from where I started.

I am free weight barbell OHP 155lb now which I find is impressive after 4 sets of 135 OHP. Weight is staying roughly around 176. I am hoping these last 6 weeks will be amazing. I am contemplating throwing the Tbol in at the end the cycle, I hope someone can give me some input as far as that.

Calories are roughly 3300 now.
280p
320c
100f

[lifter916]

Nice work man.. I lost track of ur log, but I'm following now... You have a good base to build upon and a good workout ethic.. with the E ester you've just now entering the sweet spot..week 5-6 and thereafter I notice the most change both in body and mind..I can see added mass on you from start of cycle..keep going hard bro

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[Micki420]

Nice work man.. I lost track of ur log, but I'm following now... You have a good base to build upon and a good workout ethic.. with the E ester you've just now entering the sweet spot..week 5-6 and thereafter I notice the most change both in body and mind..I can see added mass on you from start of cycle..keep going hard bro

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Thank you very much! I am someone is noticing my gains, it’s hard to see how much I’ve grown when I look at myself everyday in the mirror. I have put on 15 pounds and I’m not sure how much is water, fat, or muscle.

ive been hoping this week 5-8 I just blow up and get massive!

[Micki420]

Pin #10 - left glute

Pinning 250mg + 250 iu of HCG. I pinned my left glute and my left hand was shaking. I am not left handed, so it is difficult for me to get a proper jab in there. The injection went fine, but when I went to pull out, blood went all over and it was the first time that happened. Quick clean up and back to normal.

Side effects this week: Thankfully Libido is the same, all I can thing about is women. I have had INSANE insomnia and I am always hot and sweating at night. This happened in the beginning of week 5(This week). Its been making it very difficult on me to function as I can not sleep and I become extremely restless. Also, I am getting very bad back pumps as I have been mixing in 75mg of anavar for the one bottle I have. Pumps are insane elsewhere though.

Gym - On the pin day I felt like a beast. I am most impressed with my upper chest growth. at the end I did 205x10 225x5 and 235x2. which to me, is extremely impressive. Other lifts have gone well. Today I was repping out leg press for 7 and 8 plates. Squatting 385x1.

Other points - I have been having internal left shoulder pain on flat and incline bench and lat raises. I am going to start taking joint support and fish oil to combat these.

Here is a little update photo.

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[Micki420]

Progress pic and update - end of week 5. - 174.5lb

So, I feel like the test is finally kicking in. I’ve been having sweats and insomnia which is fine.

ive lost weight from last week still eating 3000-3300 (tel:3000-3300) calories a day! I mean struggling to eat all that shit the way it is. I think the anavar and added cardio this week has a lot to do with it. Also, I was holding water which is now not as prominent. I can safely say everything has gotten immensely stronger and I am now waiting for more mass to start being added. It is a struggle and my body has come a long way thus far. Not even being halfway done I am excited to see what the last 7 weeks have in store. I am upset I am losing weight, but i measured my arms and they are bigger and learner than they were, which gives me hope. Looking for input now more than ever. Thanks!

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[Micki420]

Pin #11 - Right glute

Pinning went well. Smoothest in the Right flute all the time.

Workout went well these are the current maxes after full working sets.

275x1 bench
240x1 incline bench
365x5 squat
405x3 deadlift.
8 plates x 5 Leg press

I will get bloodwork tomorrow and post them up
500-600mg test
500-600 IU HCG
.5 Arimidex on Monday/thursday/saturday
75mg anavar ED

[lifter916]

Pin #11 - Right glute

Pinning went well. Smoothest in the Right flute all the time.

Workout went well these are the current maxes after full working sets.

275x1 bench
240x1 incline bench
365x5 squat
405x3 deadlift.
8 plates x 5 Leg press

I will get bloodwork tomorrow and post them up
500-600mg test
500-600 IU HCG
.5 Arimidex on Monday/thursday/saturday
75mg anavar EDGlad to see your getting bloods...it's a smart move in this game

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[Micki420]

Glad to see your getting bloods...it's a smart move in this game

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Always!

I would love to see where I stand. I have not had any estrogen side effects. Balls are still plump.

I am looking forward to seeing all these levels to see if I need to back off on arimidex or add more. Also, to see how the liver is holding up.

[Micki420]

******BLOODWORK******

Total Test: higher than 1100. “H>1100”
Free Test: 370(normal range is 50-200)
SHBG: 8.9(normal range is 10-50
Estradiol: 43.0(normal is 0-39)
Direct Billirubin: 0.25(normal is 0-0.40)

My metabolic profile:
Glucose was low: 67(normal is 70-105)
C02 is high: (normal is 18-29)

cholesterol will be posted tomorrow

[Studmuff1]

Looking good man, looks like you’re dropping body fat as well as gaining lean body mass

[leftkz]

Try pinning Ventro Glutes. On my first cycle I rotated, left glute/right glute/left vg/right vg. I found VG to be much easier since you don't have to twist your entire body. I'm able to hold the barrel of the syringe with one hand and squeeze with the other for a more stable pin. I've also never gotten pip when pinning VG, even when it was virgin.

[Micki420]

Try pinning Ventro Glutes. On my first cycle I rotated, left glute/right glute/left vg/right vg. I found VG to be much easier since you don't have to twist your entire body. I'm able to hold the barrel of the syringe with one hand and squeeze with the other for a more stable pin. I've also never gotten pip when pinning VG, even when it was virgin.

I don’t mind twisting around, but it’s the fact that I am
not good with my left hand I might try VG.

[Micki420]

Pin #12.

pinning has all been good. I didn’t update the end of my week 6. So, here is my previous measurements and current measurements at the end of week 6 as well as a updated photo of end of week 6.

measurements in inches:

Before
15.8 right arm
15.2 left arm
41 chest
Left calf 15 inch
Right calf 15.5
Right quad - 22
Left quad 21.5
Waist - 30
11.75 inch right forearm
12inch left forearm
Right wrist 7
Left wrist 7.5


6 weeks in


16.3 right arm
16.0 left arm
42.5 chest
15 left calf
16 right calf
22.75 right quad
22.0 left quad
32 waist
11.85 right forearm
12 left forearm
7.75 right wrist
8.4 left wrist

[Micki420]

End of week 6: 178lb

been struggling to eat much food recently. Getting appetite suppression. Could have been the use of anavar.
testicles are still plump, no atrophy.

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/09/22/9554E40E-AF20-4963-803E-FDE377B07201.md.jpg (https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/4ao2)

[leftkz]

I don’t mind twisting around, but it’s the fact that I am
not good with my left hand I might try VG.

Yeah. I get shaky pinning left glute as well. Definitely try adding both VG's into rotation. The first time is a bit hard to find, but there are a few threads on BOP about finding it, Don't be scared.

VG is easily my favorite spot, though I've only tried delts, vg and glutes. Lots of stability, and no pip, can also take a lot of oil supposedly.

[MCmeshugenah]

I don’t mind twisting around, but it’s the fact that I am
not good with my left hand I might try VG.Bro listen let me tell you something. Stupid fucking easy pin. Maybe even easier than biceps. Do vg seated. With your back straight and leg 90 degrees to the floor. It's just right there man. Don't even have to aim.

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[leftkz]

Bro listen let me tell you something. Stupid fucking easy pin. Maybe even easier than biceps. Do vg seated. With your back straight and leg 90 degrees to the floor. It's just right there man. Don't even have to aim.

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Never tried seated before, I usually do it standing. Maybe I'll give that a shot next cycle.

[MCmeshugenah]

Never tried seated before, I usually do it standing. Maybe I'll give that a shot next cycle.Dude let me tell you something. Two minutes.

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[Micki420]

Haven't updated in a week and half. Been extremely busy, I've been eating alot more, but keep hovering around 177-180. Its been very difficult to move up. Adding the Tbol helped alot as far as strength. Here are the lifts thus far.

Squat: 410x1
Deadlift: 435x1
Bench: 285x1

This is the beginning of week 9. I will be posting up the photos from week 7 and week 8 as the progress pics. I am not sure if there is much of a change from week to week, but I've put on almost 20 pounds of very quality weight thus far. I would like to end this cycle at 185.

Everyone now asks or suspects I am on gear. I get asked very frequently. While I do look slightly puffed in my mid-section. I am significantly leaner in my back, arms, shoulders, chest, and legs.

[MCmeshugenah]

Haven't updated in a week and half. Been extremely busy, I've been eating alot more, but keep hovering around 177-180. Its been very difficult to move up. Adding the Tbol helped alot as far as strength. Here are the lifts thus far.

Squat: 410x1
Deadlift: 435x1
Bench: 285x1

This is the beginning of week 9. I will be posting up the photos from week 7 and week 8 as the progress pics. I am not sure if there is much of a change from week to week, but I've put on almost 20 pounds of very quality weight thus far. I would like to end this cycle at 185.

Everyone now asks or suspects I am on gear. I get asked very frequently. While I do look slightly puffed in my mid-section. I am significantly leaner in my back, arms, shoulders, chest, and legs.Deny deny and deny. Even if they find a syringe. Oh bro I repair model airplanes helps me get the glue where I need it. What do you mean you've never seen me with a model airplane before? It's an old passion I'm reviving. Uh where is it? Well like I said I just repair them. Already back in it's rightful owners hand. If they find a vial..it's for my dog you see how skinny he is????

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[Micki420]

Deny deny and deny. Even if they find a syringe. Oh bro I repair model airplanes helps me get the glue where I need it. What do you mean you've never seen me with a model airplane before? It's an old passion I'm reviving. Uh where is it? Well like I said I just repair them. Already back in it's rightful owners hand. If they find a vial..it's for my dog you see how skinny he is????

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hahaha thats hilarious. I am pretty honest to my peers.

[Micki420]

10 weeks in -

420 squat 1rm
295 bench
455 deadlift
255 incline bench

I am currently 185 pounds, 25 pounds gained from this cycle. It has been incredible.

500iu EW of HCG has been fine, but the past 1-2 weeks I noticed atrophy slightly. I would like to say a 30% decrease in size.
still sticking with 600mg of test, added in a little TBOL towards the end of the cycle.

[chadmack282]

Great Job Mick!
Keep up the Hard Work it's paying off!!

[MCmeshugenah]

Yeah youre doing great. Keep it up bro!

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[1969jeffery1969]

Nice job..

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[leftkz]

Keep it up man.