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Muskem
09-04-2018, 01:21 AM
Firat time running both Nandrolone and Tren in the same cycle, curious as to advice on when to cut NPP off and go just Tren?
Planning on Test E 300 2x a week and NPP at 100 eod for 8 weeks, first Tren E 200 2x a week at week 5ish.
Got Arimidex as needed, Clen for the end of the cycle.
Looking for 15 weeks total or so.

Weeks 1-5
600 mg test e 300 split 2x a week
400 NPP 100 eod
5-8
750 mg test e 300 and 450 2x a week
400 NPP 100 eod
400 Tren E 200 2x a werk
5-15
750/600 test e pin 2x a week
400 tren e 200 2x a week
15-16/17
600 test e

Looking for advice on when to start the amiridex and never done Clen but, i was advised to run it with the Tren by a friend

LowT
09-04-2018, 10:09 AM
This your first cycle? I'm not a fan of mixing long and short esters. What are your goals and why start Tren E at week 5 for last 10 weeks. And was the cycle proposed by a buddy or trainer at the gym?
Just wondering....

Muskem
09-04-2018, 02:31 PM
4th. first was dbol, test
2nd var, deca, test
3rd was dbol, tren, test
Plan was to kick start and add a little size without the water retention i got from DBol via the NPP and thin it out a little later and cut up.
Kind of just wanted to see what I could achieve by the NPP seeing as I would see and feel the gains much faster w. the short ester. I threw it together, really just grabbed the Clen because of advice from a fellow gym bud that does physique.
Ive always been an aromasin guy, never tried adex..havent ever really had an issue with the super prolactin dump, but i thought to be safe then sorry with the a.i.
Realistically, my goal is to gain some mass i can keep and lose some fat while achieving slightly above my natty limit. I have some PRs that i want to break.
Im 27, 5'7, hover around 190 when off cycle. each cycle has worked out different for me in terms of size gains

cyberninja
09-04-2018, 02:34 PM
Ai’s don’t address prolactin...that’s what caber is for. Ai’s are estrogen control


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Muskem
09-04-2018, 02:50 PM
No/low estro, lower PRL production? right?

MarvelNerd
09-04-2018, 03:26 PM
Firat time running both Nandrolone and Tren in the same cycle, curious as to advice on when to cut NPP off and go just Tren?
Planning on Test E 300 2x a week and NPP at 100 eod for 8 weeks, first Tren E 200 2x a week at week 5ish.
Got Arimidex as needed, Clen for the end of the cycle.
Looking for 15 weeks total or so.

Weeks 1-5
600 mg test e 300 split 2x a week
400 NPP 100 eod
5-8
750 mg test e 300 and 450 2x a week
400 NPP 100 eod
400 Tren E 200 2x a werk
5-15
750/600 test e pin 2x a week
400 tren e 200 2x a week
15-16/17
600 test e

Looking for advice on when to start the amiridex and never done Clen but, i was advised to run it with the Tren by a friend

On my log I am running NPP for the first 8 weeks then going to Tren. I chose to do this because both can increase progesterone and prolactin. Also tren is 500/500 on the anabolic androgenic scale. I didn’t want it to have competition. NPP is not nearly as strong and as your cycle length increases you may need to increase either strength or dose to continue gains.

Clen low dose upon waking can help offset tren lethargy.
Ephedrine or Bronkaid (contains ephedrine) can help too since either (clen or ephedrine) has a two week lifespan before you have to switch off of them. (Beta blockers)


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Muskem
09-04-2018, 03:47 PM
Since the Enth ester takes a second to build, do you think there will be an issue running it 2 weeks with the NPP? and ill grab some Caber just in case. I wont be running this until late december or early January due to just having hernia sugery. Any advice you guys have, i sincerely appreciate you guys taking time out of your day to help me out

Radman69
09-04-2018, 04:02 PM
Is there a reason your chosing enanthate?

Switch Tren E to Tren ace, inject daily with the NPP..

are you prolactin sensitive? Then this is an unadvisable approach/cycle...The need to control the side effects will be to kuch trouble than its worth...

If your not prolactin/estro sensitive... this is one of THE best cycles for Me personally...

Currently, i am using
350mgs Tren ace
350mgs NPP
400mgs Test cyp
400mgs Masteron E

injected daily, or as frequently as you can tolerate is always my advice with ANY ester or compound...

hope this makes sense to ya bruddah! Enjoy!

itsBoogie
09-06-2018, 01:19 AM
Is there a reason your chosing enanthate?

Switch Tren E to Tren ace, inject daily with the NPP..

are you prolactin sensitive? Then this is an unadvisable approach/cycle...The need to control the side effects will be to kuch trouble than its worth...

If your not prolactin/estro sensitive... this is one of THE best cycles for Me personally...

Currently, i am using
350mgs Tren ace
350mgs NPP
400mgs Test cyp
400mgs Masteron E

injected daily, or as frequently as you can tolerate is always my advice with ANY ester or compound...

hope this makes sense to ya bruddah! Enjoy!I'm pinning a blend of tren ace, test p , Npp 100mg eod...I love it! And test 400 2x per week

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Guitarzan
09-06-2018, 02:27 AM
If you never run both at the same time, I would drop dose amount to 200 each, and would drop the test too.

Muskem
09-06-2018, 02:00 PM
thank you guys for the advice, i appreciate it.
im gonna start a little lower on the dosages and adjust as needed