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Jclench
09-10-2018, 02:13 AM
Hey Brothers,

I’ve been training hard my diet as been consistent for the past 6months. I have had some good gains thinking it’s time to kick it up a notch. I will get my bloods next week so this could change a bit. In the past I had only ran about 4 cycles total and was vary sensitive and put on 25lbs on a test/then cycle at 400mg test-C and 100mg Tren-A cycle 10weeks. I know diet it key so I will post more on that later thinking of running a log once I have bloods back etc. The Goal to put on some more lean mass and recomp from 25%BF to 15%BF

Here is what I’m thinking. Thoughts?

Week 1-8
20mg Dbol week 1-4 ed
test-c 400mg Mon, w/front loaded 800mg
Mast-E 200mg Wen. W/front loaded 400mg
PCT week 9-12

Is once a week good on the test-c and Mast-E or should I split it to 2 times/week?

madhungarian
09-10-2018, 02:29 AM
Split the test and mast doses up. 20mgs of dbol is pretty minimal. If you have enough and can handle it, I'd run it at 50mgs a day, split in 2 doses. I don't see anything about any AI's? You have aromasin, arimidex or something else on hand? I'm also 42 but I don't pct, I just go back to trt dosage after a blast. Have you had your blood levels checked? Are you on trt?

crossbones45
09-10-2018, 03:08 AM
Split the test and mast doses up. 20mgs of dbol is pretty minimal. If you have enough and can handle it, I'd run it at 50mgs a day, split in 2 doses. I don't see anything about any AI's? You have aromasin, arimidex or something else on hand? I'm also 42 but I don't pct, I just go back to trt dosage after a blast. Have you had your blood levels checked? Are you on trt?

If the Dbol is legit, how long do you think it takes at 50 mgs per day/split before you feel/see a change?

Jclench
09-10-2018, 12:59 PM
Not on TRT I will be running aromasin eod based on bloods. I get my bloods done next week then again week 6. I have a ton of dbol they are 20mg. So I can do 40mg split 2ad. I can also get tbol thinking of running that week 4-8 when I stop dbol. Do have history with tbol?

Jclench
09-10-2018, 01:01 PM
Also I have never ran dbol so not sure how it effects me.

madhungarian
09-10-2018, 01:37 PM
You should see and feel the dbol pretty quickly, within a week. Watch the aromasin to make sure that you don't kill your E2 completely. Low E2 and you'll feel worse than low T. I love tbol personally. None of the water bloat or other sides like dbol. I used it to jump start my last cycle and it worked perfectly. Great pumps, good strength and fee sides. Dbol blows me up like a tick and at my age I'll never run it again.

Jclench
09-10-2018, 05:01 PM
So how much did you run on tbol to jump start your last cycle? I could do something like this and skip the Dbol.

Week 1-8
tbol mg? Ed week 1-4
Test-C 200mg M,Th front load/800mg
Week 5-8 Mast-E 100mg M,Th front load/400 mg
Anavar 25mg ed week 5-8
Aromais .25mg Tue,Fri (based on bloods etc.)

madhungarian
09-10-2018, 09:17 PM
I ran 50mgs ed for 6 weeks. I'd start there with the tbol and anavar. Honestly, I'd get blood work before you start anything. Find out what your base numbers are. Also, if you haven't run a cycle in 15 years you would probably get really good gains off of 500mgs of test ew, a good diet and cardio for 10-12 weeks. Get bloods in the middle of the cycle to see where that dosage puts you at, run pct or drop to a trt dosage for 10-12 weeks then run a stacked cycle.

Jbox456
09-10-2018, 09:25 PM
Hey Brothers,

I’ve been training hard my diet as been consistent for the past 6months. I have had some good gains thinking it’s time to kick it up a notch. I will get my bloods next week so this could change a bit. In the past I had only ran about 4 cycles total and was vary sensitive and put on 25lbs on a test/then cycle at 400mg test-C and 100mg Tren-A cycle 10weeks. I know diet it key so I will post more on that later thinking of running a log once I have bloods back etc. The Goal to put on some more lean mass and recomp from 25%BF to 15%BF

Here is what I’m thinking. Thoughts?

Week 1-8
20mg Dbol week 1-4 ed
test-c 400mg Mon, w/front loaded 800mg
Mast-E 200mg Wen. W/front loaded 400mg
PCT week 9-12

Is once a week good on the test-c and Mast-E or should I split it to 2 times/week?

Def want to split the dose may I ask why your choosing to use masteron ... your be better off with tren if you want to recoup masteron is only reallly truly beneficial if your under 10 bodyfat

Jclench
09-11-2018, 03:42 AM
Thanks guys,

I think I will run the test only like you said madhungarian. I will get my blood work next week and get my bodyfat numbers as well. I’ll get my order in after I see my blood work and go from there. Get my BF down and run a stack after PCT.

Thanks for all your help homie!

madhungarian
09-11-2018, 03:45 AM
Def want to split the dose may I ask why your choosing to use masteron ... your be better off with tren if you want to recoup masteron is only reallly truly beneficial if your under 10 bodyfat

He's 42 and hasn't cycled in 15 years and you think tren is a good idea? OP, I would heavily advise you to stay away from tren at this point.

madhungarian
09-11-2018, 03:51 AM
Thanks guys,

I think I will run the test only like you said madhungarian. I will get my blood work next week and get my bodyfat numbers as well. I’ll get my order in after I see my blood work and go from there. Get my BF down and run a stack after PCT.

Thanks for all your help homie!

You can't go wrong with this. Good diet and good cardio with some test and you'll keep yourself healthy, make good gains and be ready for a heavier cycle next time around. Several great sponsors on here, just find one you like with solid reps that'll help you through ordering and through your cycle.

Jbox456
09-11-2018, 04:16 AM
He's 42 and hasn't cycled in 15 years and you think tren is a good idea? OP, I would heavily advise you to stay away from tren at this point.

Masteron is pretty much a waste if you are over 10 percent might as well just take proviron I don’t think some people understand that certain steroids don’t just make you cut or burn fat they help bring out detail in a already shredddd physique



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Jbox456
09-11-2018, 04:21 AM
Not on TRT I will be running aromasin eod based on bloods. I get my bloods done next week then again week 6. I have a ton of dbol they are 20mg. So I can do 40mg split 2ad. I can also get tbol thinking of running that week 4-8 when I stop dbol. Do have history with tbol?

I would forget about the frontload and just use tbol as a jumpstart to the cycle add in some proviron you will get the same effect you would be getting from masteron masteron imo for you would be a waste you would get the same results from proviron when you get cut then yes masteron is a great choice but as of now now don’t think so you can use tbol the first like 4 and anavar the rest i think ending a blast with anavar n winnny really helps solidify your gains



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madhungarian
09-11-2018, 04:30 AM
Masteron is pretty much a waste if you are over 10 percent might as well just take proviron I don’t think some people understand that certain steroids don’t just make you cut or burn fat they help bring out detail in a already shredddd physique



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Some test, a good diet and cardio will burn fat. No need for tren.

LowT
09-12-2018, 04:12 PM
I agree, you don't really need the tren right now. I like your original plan but I would definitely got 12 weeks for the entire cycle. And increase the dbol to 30-40mgs ed, sit thru the day.
Cyp - 1-12@500mgs, M-W-F or at least every 3rd day.
Dbol - 1-4@30-40mgs ED.
Have fun!!

Jclench
10-01-2018, 07:17 PM
today

Jclench
10-01-2018, 07:18 PM
Precycle Blood work back before starting my 12week test-c only cycle: Current stats Age: 42, Weight 230, Body fat 19%.

The final cycle will look like this:
Test-c 250mg Monday , 250mg Thursday
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Hcg 250iu Tuesday 250mg Friday

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texman
11-01-2018, 05:46 PM
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