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Loadedguns
09-16-2018, 03:26 PM
I'm going to run deca. Just 200 mg a week. I have a high testosterone count so do I need to run test as the base? I'm also starting alphatropin. 4 iu a day. Is there anything I need to run with it?

eric8182
09-16-2018, 03:34 PM
I would run test for sure with deca, cause it shuts me down. But maybe someone knows better. I have never run that low of a dose of deca, you using just for joints or as a cycle?

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kubes
09-16-2018, 03:54 PM
Lay out your proposed cycle and yes always use rest as the base of your cycle. Please lay out your cycle exp too

LowT
09-16-2018, 04:33 PM
Yeah, the deca is ongoing to shut you down . Test is definitely recommend. Do you have a good diet to go along with the cycle?

Loadedguns
09-16-2018, 08:57 PM
I would run test for sure with deca, cause it shuts me down. But maybe someone knows better. I have never run that low of a dose of deca, you using just for joints or as a cycle?

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Yes, joint health for pitching in baseball.

Torres
09-16-2018, 08:58 PM
I'm no expert , but I would Absolutely run Test with the Deca .

Loadedguns
09-16-2018, 09:00 PM
That's as far as I've gotten. I don't want to shut down my natural test production I just want to do one cycle with hgh and deca. I will use a small test base if needed. It's for pitching health. 6'1" and 190 lbs right now. 23 y/o baseball player.

Loadedguns
09-16-2018, 09:00 PM
Yes, I have a nutritionist.

Loadedguns
09-16-2018, 09:02 PM
My friend uses this site and told me to ask around that I wouldn't go wrong starting here.

WhipGetBack
09-16-2018, 09:12 PM
What have you read about deca cycles and the impact on natural test production?


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kubes
09-16-2018, 11:58 PM
That's as far as I've gotten. I don't want to shut down my natural test production I just want to do one cycle with hgh and deca. I will use a small test base if needed. It's for pitching health. 6'1" and 190 lbs right now. 23 y/o baseball player.

Your going to shut down your body’s natty test production of you do a cycle. There is no way around it. As soon as you add exogenous testosterone or any other compound endogenous product will shut down its just the way the negative feedback loop works

Ds3317
09-17-2018, 01:11 AM
Any aas will shut down your natural testosterone production. Every time I ran anything without at least test at trt levels I was extremely lethargic and run down and eventually ed happened.
For joint relief try tb500. S4 did wonders as well for my shoulders while I was taking it, night blindness sucked though.

teejey
09-17-2018, 01:39 AM
I believe the sarm ostarine helps with joints also, won't shut you down nearly as bad as aas.

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Jayjaytocool
09-17-2018, 03:57 AM
Is your goal is to impact your natural testosterone production the least and get some healing effect from gear? Is this your first cycle? If so I recommend u run test alone instead of the deca. Deca and other 19-nors shut you down completely and for a long time. My first couple cycles were test only I felt great no pain anywhere and I was having trouble with a torn Librium in my shoulder did wonders for it. I bounced right back too. No nut shrinking or feeling like shit when I came off. Make sure your run enough test to benofit or all u do is replace natural test with synthetic. Somewhere between 300-600. How old r u? That is also a factor. Keep your cycle short. 8 weeks on 8 weeks off. No need for pct in my opinion for your first run. Others I’m sure might disagree but that’s just my advice. I’m no expert just trying to help. Good luck.

Loadedguns
09-17-2018, 04:23 AM
What have you read about deca cycles and the impact on natural test production?


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Ive read it higher doses it will shut your natural test down.

Loadedguns
09-17-2018, 04:25 AM
What is that?

Loadedguns
09-17-2018, 04:28 AM
I also need it to help with tendon inflammation as well as joint pain. Yes this will be my first cycle. If I didn't do this professionally I wouldn't consider it but if I don't get some help my body isn't going to hold up to the grind.

astevens2
10-13-2018, 11:31 PM
I would definitely run test at like 500mg per week

kaarona1
10-17-2018, 11:12 PM
always use test as base. Looking to run Test E and Deca soon!!