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captelectron
09-25-2018, 01:15 AM
I just had my initial on-cycle blood done and just got the results back. Blood was taken on day 20 of a Test-E 250mg E3D & Anavar 75mg ED cycle. I have been taking Aromasin 12.5 EOD for Week 2 and then switched to 12.5 ED after day 10.

Blood Panel was just the basic Private MD Labs Female Hormone Panel as I was just looking to see if their were any major issues and if I need to adjust my AI more, which it looks like I do.

Here are the results:

https://i.imgur.com/yb8mO0v.png





Test Name



Result
Flag
Reference Range








CBCWith Differential





WBC
7.4
NORMAL
3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL


RBC
5.00
NORMAL
4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL


Hemoglobin
14.0
NORMAL
13.0-17.7 g/dL


Hematocrit
43.6
NORMAL
37.5-51.0 %


MCV
87
NORMAL
79-97 fL


MCH
28.0
NORMAL
26.6-33.0 pg


MCHC
32.1
NORMAL
31.5-35.7 g/dL


RDW
14.4
NORMAL
12.3-15.4 %


Platelets
339
NORMAL
150-379 x10E3/uL


Neutrophils
67
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Lymphs
19
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Monocytes
13
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Eos
1
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Basos
0
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Neutrophils (Absolute
5.0
NORMAL
1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL


Lymphs (Absolute)
1.4
NORMAL
0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL


Monocytes(Absolute)
1.0
HIGH
0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL


Eos (Absolute)
0.1
NORMAL
0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL


Baso (Absolute)
0.0
NORMAL
0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL


Immature Granulocytes
0
NORMAL
Not Estab. %


Immature Grans (Abs)
0.0
NORMAL
0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL








Comp. MetabolicPanel





Glucose
97
NORMAL
65-99 mg/dL


BUN
13
NORMAL
6-20 mg/dL


Creatinine
1.10
NORMAL
0.76-1.27 mg/dL


eGFR If NonAfricn Am
87
NORMAL
>59 mL/min/1.73


eGFR If Africn Am
100
NORMAL
>59 mL/min/1.73


BUN/Creatinine Ratio
12
NORMAL
9-20


Sodium
141
NORMAL
134-144 mmol/L


Potassium
5.0
NORMAL
3.5-5.2 mmol/L


Chloride
98
NORMAL
96-106 mmol/L


Carbon Dioxide, Total
28
NORMAL
20-29 mmol/L


Calcium
9.5
NORMAL
8.7-10.2 mg/dL


Protein, Total
6.4
NORMAL
6.0-8.5 g/dL


Albumin
4.2
NORMAL
3.5-5.5 g/dL


Globulin, Total
2.2
NORMAL
1.5-4.5 g/dL


A/G Ratio
1.9
NORMAL
1.2-2.2


Bilirubin, Total
0.4
NORMAL
0.0-1.2 mg/dL


Alkaline Phosphatase
39
NORMAL
39-117 IU/L


AST (SGOT)
82
HIGH
0-40 IU/L


ALT (SGPT)
152
HIGH
0-44 IU/L








Testosterone, Serum





Testosterone, Serum
>1500
HIGH
264-916 ng/dL








Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S





LH
0.2
LOW
1.7-8.6 mIU/mL


FSH, Serum





FSH
<0.2
LOW
1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01


Estradiol





Estradiol
44.4
HIGH
7.6-42.6 pg/mL









I have been reading and I appreciate suggestions and thoughts about how much to increase my AI as well as what supplements I should add based on the results. My initial thought was to go to 25mg Aroma ED, but I am not sure if this should be higher or different so I appreciate suggestions there as well as if I should be adding a Liver Aid or other supplements based on the results.

Thanks in advance!
captelectron
09-25-2018, 01:47 PM
In short here are the questionable numbers that stood out to me:








Test Name



Result
Flag
Reference Range








Monocytes(Absolute)
1.0
HIGH
0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL








Glucose
97
NORMAL
65-99 mg/dL








Protein, Total
6.4
NORMAL
6.0-8.5 g/dL








AST (SGOT)
82
HIGH
0-40 IU/L


ALT (SGPT)
152
HIGH
0-44 IU/L








Testosterone, Serum
>1500
HIGH
264-916 ng/dL








LH
0.2
LOW
1.7-8.6 mIU/mL








FSH
<0.2
LOW
1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01








Estradiol
44.4
HIGH
7.6-42.6 pg/mL











Clearly the Test is as expected, and maybe the rest are all okay considering the cycle, but I wanted some of the more experience users advice.

Should I increase my AI?
Do I need any other supplements to add, such as a liver aid or other?
Anything else I should consider here.

Thanks in advance Bros!
RussianBot
09-25-2018, 02:06 PM
In short here are the questionable numbers that stood out to me:




Clearly the Test is as expected, and maybe the rest are all okay considering the cycle, but I wanted some of the more experience users advice.

Should I increase my AI?
Do I need any other supplements to add, such as a liver aid or other?
Anything else I should consider here.

Thanks in advance Bros!Man, your Estro is not too far out of range. If you feel good and aren't holding a bunch of water, I would stick with the 12.5 mg daily. You can expect estrogen to be on the high side if your Test is in the 3-4 thousand range.

Var jacked my AST and ALT levels up pretty high as well. Get some Tudca and NAC to take while running the Var. DON'T take milk thistle while taking orals. It will diminish the effectiveness. Wait till you are done with the Var.

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TX_Hempknight
09-25-2018, 04:29 PM
Man, your Estro is not too far out of range. If you feel good and aren't holding a bunch of water, I would stick with the 12.5 mg daily. You can expect estrogen to be on the high side if your Test is in the 3-4 thousand range.

Var jacked my AST and ALT levels up pretty high as well. Get some Tudca and NAC to take while running the Var. DON'T take milk thistle while taking orals. It will diminish the effectiveness. Wait till you are done with the Var.

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I second this.
Nismo99
09-26-2018, 08:39 PM
Didn't realize just how harsh VAR can be.
KiloWhiskey82nd
09-26-2018, 09:52 PM
In short here are the questionable numbers that stood out to me:




Clearly the Test is as expected, and maybe the rest are all okay considering the cycle, but I wanted some of the more experience users advice.

Should I increase my AI?
Do I need any other supplements to add, such as a liver aid or other?
Anything else I should consider here.

Thanks in advance Bros!

Personally, I like my estrogen just slightly lower, maybe mid 30's but its hard to control it sometimes.
I'd always error on lower estrogen than higher. Once you get gyno it will flare up every cycle until its
cut out. You don't want them problems.

You aren't in bad shape whatsoever imo. People trip over liver enzymes but as long as you aren't a raging
alcoholic or addicted to BC Powders the liver will always bounce back.

My friend had his come back at over 1000, then you have a damn problem.

People should be much more worried about their kidneys instead of their liver.
Pound that water like no tomorrow, when the blood gets thick and dehydrated the kidneys struggle.
bigpapapumpaf
09-26-2018, 10:03 PM
This is a female panel?

Anavar will cause your lipids to be off.

BPP
captelectron
09-27-2018, 10:05 PM
This is a female panel?

Anavar will cause your lipids to be off.

BPP

Yes this is the privateMD Female hormone panel that is recommended a lot on AAS forums for a low cost solution if you do not need to see Test above 1500 it seems to do good for the basics.
Women Hormones Testing | Private MD Labs (https://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/female-hormone-testing.php)
captelectron
09-28-2018, 01:37 PM
Also, just to check... The HIGH Monocytes result I assume is unrelated to the cycle/AAS altogether, right? I guess from what I am reading I may just have had some unknown infection or something my immune system was fighting off at the time that I had no idea about, but I thought it worth asking your guys opinions as I wasn't sure if this could be cycle related too.

Thanks!