1st cycle...take a look

[Thehog18]

Hey guys..just joined, posted in the welcome forum...bout to start my first cycle after doing a years worth of reading. Here we go

6'2
215
12%
8 total, last 3 three focused.

Just simple 300mg/wk of test e. Split 2x week for 12 wks
i do not want bloat, I kno 300 mg may not produce bloat but...adex .5 eod
i have hcg for last few weeks for pct jumpstart
clomid at 100/50/50/50...ive read some about first day of.pct to take 300mg of clomid then continue as stated.
going to wait for two weeks after last shot to begin clomid
18g to draw, 23g to shoot..
can I post diet here or should I take it to the diet forum?
Thanks guys

[rghtnow]

I think you should probably post the Diet in the Diet section and guys can chime in with their thoughts.....

So if i'm reading this correctly this will be your 9th cycle correct? If this is correct i would like to see your Test higher....500mg split twice a week or switch over to Test Prop at this point and do 100mg EOD....By now your ready to stack something i would throw in some Dbol at 20 to 30mg ED....That should do the trick....The amount of Water you hold is going to depend on how clean your diet is....at those dosages "Bloat" should not be a huge issue and whatever extra water will be quickly lost after your cycle.....Good luck

[Thehog18]

Ha..no no no. 8 is years training...this is my first cycle. Lol. sry for the confusion

[Ttownmudder]

If it wouldn't be to hard for you I would bump the Test up to 500mg for 12 weeks I just think you would. See better results bro

[rghtnow]

Ha..no no no. 8 is years training...this is my first cycle. Lol. sry for the confusion

Oh O'k if that's the case just the Test then without the Dbol and i would still like to see it at 400 to 500mg....If your test MG amount is 200mg/ml then start with 400mg and you can split that 2x a week to keep the blood levels as stable as possible.....If the test you have is 250mg/ml then 2cc's split 2x week.....

[Walker]

I'd recommend running it at 500mg minimum also. No need to shut yourself down for a TRT dosage.

[tilltheend]

500mg minimum sounds best

[Thehog18]

Well then its settled, 500 a week...
i was thinking about that but I guess I was trying to see what happens with a low dose first round....go big or go home

Its 250 mg/ml so one cc 2x a week...appreciate all ur imput

[Thehog18]

about the bloat tho....if my diet is low sodium and no added sodium and I do not get bloated from my diet and I already consume about a gallon or so water/day...should I be g2g without an ai....any expirence out there with ai inhibiting gains on cycle?

[Spawn]

It doesnt inhibit muscle gains, it just inhibits water gains so adex would be good choice for you.

[Diesel Flextronic]

If it is test 250 then run 250mg Monday and Thursday for 10 weeks. I would hold off on the adex. keep it on hand along with nolva. I have seen succesful first runs done anywhere between 300 and 500mg a week. If you had test 200 I would recommend 400mg a week. It depends on how the mg/ml and how many ml you have of it.

[Thehog18]

Its 250, I got a pack of 5 10ml bottles...ill do 500 on sun n wed prolly...whats ur opinion on why to hold off on starting the ai, just cause it may not cause gyno or much bloat...thanks guys im pretty excited to get this started....what dose of test would an ai be necessary from the start? 750/wk?

[htownbabysaver]

how bout your age?

[Patriot1405]

Looks like everyone has this covered.
But I would run the test at 500mgs for 12 weeks instead of 10. Me personally, I just start to feel the full effects of the test by the 8th week.

[Spawn]

^^^this.

[ODB]

.whats ur opinion on why to hold off on starting the ai, just cause it may not cause gyno or much bloat...thanks guys im pretty excited to get this started.

It may be hard to tell on ur 1st cycle but I use adex when I feel estrogen is up (usually .25 - every 2wks)-bloated or flat, soreness, less energy, bitchy LOL (the AI lowers ur body's conversion+or production of estrogen- armidex is a competitive inhibitor not a suicide inhibitor)

[Thehog18]

I am 25