Gear crash

[M5077]

I tried crashing 3 bottles of gear over night. Test P test E and sust

No crash at all, like none. Does that mean gear is bunk?
I put all 3 in freezer overnight


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[Sh0tsf1red]

Why would you intentionally try to crash the gear?

what is the benefit?

[M5077]

Why would you intentionally try to crash the gear?

what is the benefit?

Because I had strong reason to believe it was BS already. Bloodwork from the use of 3 vials. I was obviously disgusted, so, I froze them.

With that said, no separation. Now I think I know the answer but need a vets help being I have 0 experience in crashing gear as a non-standard Test protocol.


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[bigpapapumpaf]

The freezer test is not that accurate. It will depend on the gear and the oil its brewed with but if your blood tests are off, that's your sign.

BPP

[M5077]

The freezer test is not that accurate. It will depend on the gear and the oil its brewed with but if your blood tests are off, that's your sign.

BPP

Thanks bro. You’re right. I’d think my numbers would be ridiculous with 250 sust MWF and adding prop on top. You live and you learn I guess.


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[maxmuscle1]

That sucks brother! You can buy a test online. Even Amazon even has a test for any home brew compound. Just a drop or two from your vial and it will indicate what compound you are putting in your body. It identifies correctly


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[Woods]

It should crash brother if it has enough compound in it

[w8lifter]

That sucks brother! You can buy a test online. Even Amazon even has a test for any home brew compound. Just a drop or two from your vial and it will indicate what compound you are putting in your body. It identifies correctly


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Sweet! Didn’t know about these kits. Looks like “Roidtest” kits are the main vendor


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[maxmuscle1]

You got it


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[MEB]

I figure the compounds that you got were not from a sponcer.

[M5077]

The freezer test is not that accurate. It will depend on the gear and the oil its brewed with but if your blood tests are off, that's your sign.

BPP

Thanks pump


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[Cowboymike]

100% that the bloodwork tells the true tale... that’s what I live by. That’s what I would trust. If it came back low, no other tests are even needed... unless I truly wanted to know what exactly I was putting into my body...

I’d definitely be bringing up my results with the sponsor. How that sponsor treated me from that very moment forward, would tell me everything I need to know about them, their character and the way they conduct themselves in business...

Hopefully things are made right by you. If not, then I’d expect things to be escalated.

[M5077]

I figure the compounds that you got were not from a sponcer.

But they were, which is the problem. I will be compiling all of the hard data I collected and posting to that sponsors thread, not as a smear campaign but primarily for BOP brothers and sisters safety as well as my own.


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[Cowboymike]

But they were, which is the problem. I will be compiling all of the hard data I collected and posting to that sponsors thread, not as a smear campaign but primarily for BOP brothers and sisters safety as well as my own.


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Honest reviews backed with evidence.. the good and the bad. Nothing wrong with that.. I know I personally would like to know who it was, how they’ve handled the situation, how you’ve been treated etc... looking forward to your well thought out and honest review...

[leftkz]

But they were, which is the problem. I will be compiling all of the hard data I collected and posting to that sponsors thread, not as a smear campaign but primarily for BOP brothers and sisters safety as well as my own.


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Have you brought it up with BOP Staff and emailing the sponsor directly? Bunk gear is quite a concern and staff would definitely assist you in handling the issue.

[M5077]

Have you brought it up with BOP Staff and emailing the sponsor directly? Bunk gear is quite a concern and staff would definitely assist you in handling the issue.

Yes I have, I wouldn’t make claims without following proper protocol.
The decisions I’ve made have been based on both hard data and and the suggestions of MOD’s and VETs alike. This post began as a simple question and kind of took a bit of a turn.
I def appreciate the confidence displayed here in BOP and in your response. So, thanks for ensuring correct code of conduct and protocols. That’s needed here and should be reinforced regularly by US brothers and sisters. Accountability to us and our sponsors




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[leftkz]

Yes I have, I wouldn’t make claims without following proper protocol.
The decisions I’ve made have been based on both hard data and and the suggestions of MOD’s and VETs alike. This post began as a simple question and kind of took a bit of a turn.
I def appreciate the confidence displayed here in BOP and in your response. So, thanks for ensuring correct code of conduct and protocols. That’s needed here and should be reinforced regularly by US brothers and sisters. Accountability to us and our sponsors




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I'll wait for when you post your thread. I too would like to know which lab it was.

Also... Janoshik is now a sponsor on BOP. If possible, I would try to see if you can send him a vial or two of product and see how it tests out. Remember to remove labels and not state what compound or brand to keep it truly un-bias.

[M5077]

I'll wait for when you post your thread. I too would like to know which lab it was.

Also... Janoshik is now a sponsor on BOP. If possible, I would try to see if you can send him a vial or two of product and see how it tests out. Remember to remove labels and not state what compound or brand to keep it truly un-bias.

I requested this of the sponsor. I pay shipping he pay for the test. He declined. Said he didn’t trust the lab.


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[leftkz]

I requested this of the sponsor. I pay shipping he pay for the test. He declined. Said he didn’t trust the lab.


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Unfortunately, that might be something you'd have to pay out of pocket for. It is for your own benefit as well, in knowing what you're injecting into your body.

[M5077]

Unfortunately, that might be something you'd have to pay out of pocket for. It is for your own benefit as well, in knowing what you're injecting into your body.

I would if I had the cash I had to buy new gear with lol sad but true. I’m trying to come out of a crash.


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[pompeyo546]

Ok

Oils freeze with low temperature, it's obvious but why would you want to freeze them and then try them for an exam

For me crashing means that the substance crystalize while it's at room temperature and it means that's bb and ba ratio is bigger than alcohol with powder

Normally happens a lot with any kind of nandrolone

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[leftkz]

I would if I had the cash I had to buy new gear with lol sad but true. I’m trying to come out of a crash.


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Definitely feel for you. If security wasn't an issue, I'd offer you some out of my stash even though I don't have much myself. Sadly, we're dealing in a world that isn't necessarily legal.

[M5077]

Definitely feel for you. If security wasn't an issue, I'd offer you some out of my stash even though I don't have much myself. Sadly, we're dealing in a world that isn't necessarily legal.

Thanks bro!! I had a little dragon pharma and TRT to bring me back up. Needless to say, I feel much better!


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[bigpapapumpaf]

The freezer test will not be accurate if the BA is a little high. If you doubt that, put a bottle of alcohol (not beer) in the freezer.

BPP

[M5077]

The freezer test will not be accurate if the BA is a little high. If you doubt that, put a bottle of alcohol (not beer) in the freezer.

BPP

Thank you BPP.


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[Amjodor]

I have some gear from an old sponsor on here starts with gear and I suspect it’s bunk, after reading this I froze 2 separate test e vials and one mast e vial. They didn’t freeze all the way I suspect because of the alcohol but once it “thaws” there are no crystals at all. I have had crashed gear before so I know what it looks like this is just straight oil.


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[M5077]

I have some gear from an old sponsor on here starts with gear and I suspect it’s bunk, after reading this I froze 2 separate test e vials and one mast e vial. They didn’t freeze all the way I suspect because of the alcohol but once it “thaws” there are no crystals at all. I have had crashed gear before so I know what it looks like this is just straight oil.


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I don’t know enough about any of this stuff to make claims. Lots of conflicting info all I know is, cut losses and move on. Just kinda is what it is.


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