Cycle help

[M5077]

I’m getting to cycle up on a blast to the full 600mg Test E a week. What should my dosage of exemestane AI be exactly?

Ps. This cycle should have been in full swing at this point, but truth be told motivation has been a bit of a struggle.


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[Redrocketriggs]

That is entirely up to how your body metabolizes and aromatizes test. Have you cycled test alone as a first cycle? That should be the marker as to how you respond to test only cycles. Using that previous cycle as a guide or marker per se should allow you to correctly pre determine the course of your AI. As always though bloodwork would have the ultimate say in your dosing protocol.

[Blusoul24]

For me, just a bit more than 12.5 mg eod (probably around 18mg, but hard to gauge when cutting those tiny tabs!) works perfectly. This has always kept me between 20-35.

[leftkz]

I think this differs from person to person. Bloodwork should tell you whether you need more or less.

[animal23]

When using armo studies have shown to take it with an high fat meal for better absorption

[HD-Beast]

I agree with those saying blood work. Each person has a different make-up of body chemistry, so what works well for one may not be best for another. After you get blood work, and have questions, post it and we will guide you the best we can.

HD

[cuebaal]

Varies per person 12.5 3x pw when im on 750mg test-e has me in range with minimal sides, mostly acne.

[M5077]

Ramping up again now and elected examstane AI 20mg 2x per week. Was also considering adding EQ to the mix.

EQ having a lower rate of conversion may help with some of the sides I’ve been experiencing with Test so I’ve read. If in the case I do reduce total Test MG to say 500, I could in theory add the EQ and attempt to dial in the AI and reduce estrogenic sides.

Am I on the right track here?

In addition to terrible acne, ED issues became prevalent..... but being this is BOP, we have help for that.


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[M5077]

I guess to that point, I haven’t used EQ before, so my thoughts were .5 CC or 100mg 2x a week.

Thoughts on the above?


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[madhungarian]

So this is a hard to help someone dial in an ai or help resolve every issue since everyone is different. But, there a pretty standard protocol for arimidex that seems to get most people close, personal adjustment can be made from there. I use aromasin only so others will have to help with the ai. As far as EQ, in my opinion I wouldn't waste my time or the gear on 200mgs ew. While some people may get some benefits at that dosage, eq is almost always ran at a higher dosage, a lot guys run between 600 to 800mgs ew, for as much a 16 weeks or more. It takes awhile to kick in and needs time, so a short, low dose usage of it probably won't yield the effects you want. I don't know your cycle history or personal stats but masteron can help with e issues while on cycle, can be ran at a little lower dosage and wouldn't have to be ran as long. Masteron really shines with a lower bf % though. Personally I wouldn't add another compound to my body if I couldn't get my body right on test only, you can just keep creating more issues and never really know what's causing them. Get blood work and get the e dialed in on test, then you'll know where you need to be for your next cycle. While cialis or viagra can be used to help with your ed, do you really want to do that? If you're on 600mgs of test and your E is dialed in then you should be a walking boner, the cialis would just be good for pumps, pwo, blood pressure or a boost in the bedroom. In short, I wouldn't look for another compound to fix the issues you're having with one compound, get thise issues dialed in. Just my .02. Good luck

[M5077]

So this is a hard to help someone dial in an ai or help resolve every issue since everyone is different. But, there a pretty standard protocol for arimidex that seems to get most people close, personal adjustment can be made from there. I use aromasin only so others will have to help with the ai. As far as EQ, in my opinion I wouldn't waste my time or the gear on 200mgs ew. While some people may get some benefits at that dosage, eq is almost always ran at a higher dosage, a lot guys run between 600 to 800mgs ew, for as much a 16 weeks or more. It takes awhile to kick in and needs time, so a short, low dose usage of it probably won't yield the effects you want. I don't know your cycle history or personal stats but masteron can help with e issues while on cycle, can be ran at a little lower dosage and wouldn't have to be ran as long. Masteron really shines with a lower bf % though. Personally I wouldn't add another compound to my body if I couldn't get my body right on test only, you can just keep creating more issues and never really know what's causing them. Get blood work and get the e dialed in on test, then you'll know where you need to be for your next cycle. While cialis or viagra can be used to help with your ed, do you really want to do that? If you're on 600mgs of test and your E is dialed in then you should be a walking boner, the cialis would just be good for pumps, pwo, blood pressure or a boost in the bedroom. In short, I wouldn't look for another compound to fix the issues you're having with one compound, get thise issues dialed in. Just my .02. Good luck

That sir, was fantastic advice! Thank you!!! I’d like to shoot you a PM if you wouldn’t mind.


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[swolesoul]

Yes good words from Mad Hungarian. Also I was informed on here that EQ can add to your ED issues.

[madhungarian]

That sir, was fantastic advice! Thank you!!! I’d like to shoot you a PM if you wouldn’t mind.


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That's fine.

[M5077]

That is entirely up to how your body metabolizes and aromatizes test. Have you cycled test alone as a first cycle? That should be the marker as to how you respond to test only cycles. Using that previous cycle as a guide or marker per se should allow you to correctly pre determine the course of your AI. As always though bloodwork would have the ultimate say in your dosing protocol.

1st cycle test E 200 MG 1x per week anastrozol blended. MG’s I’d have to get back to you on.

So in short yes, always Test. 2nd cycle Tren E, mast Test blend. Hated it and tossed it. Non BOP source to keep a long short. 1st time trying Tren was Enanthate. Not a good idea for me. But we live and learn.


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[M5077]

Yes good words from Mad Hungarian. Also I was informed on here that EQ can add to your ED issues.

Ohhhhhhh well then. Don’t want that


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[swolesoul]

Ohhhhhhh well then. Don’t want that


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But....don't be fast to leave EQ out of your cycle. I noted I was informed that this was the case. My personal experience with EQ has never caused any ED problems ever. As long as I used with Test I was always ready to rock.

[M5077]

But....don't be fast to leave EQ out of your cycle. I noted I was informed that this was the case. My personal experience with EQ has never caused any ED problems ever. As long as I used with Test I was always ready to rock.

I’ve also heard Mast added to Test can help with some of what I’ve talked about above.

I’ll have to do a bit more research on that compound though. I’m not certain as to its conversion ratio.


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[Redrocketriggs]

The mad Hungarian always seems to be money when it comes to advice.

I was pretty much going to give you the same advice that he gave you. I will reiterate, do not introduce any other compounds into your stack until you have taken care of the original problem. That is essentially why in my first post here I advised you that your first test only cycle should be essentially your "cliff notes" on how to properly execute a test only cycle. I may not be as experienced as other members here regarding cycle use but whatever I can share that has been useful to me, the better.

Also, your post was unclear above. If you are unsure of the conversion of mast to esto, it doesn't convert. It will not convert at any dose, it is DHT based. In fact, the reason why the mad Hungarian had mentioned it was becaue it has anti-estrogen or AI like qualities. It "shines" the most with those who take it with much lower body fat levels. However, a lot of individuals that are not low body fat often take it to combat sides from other compounds. For me that is primarily tren due to its great synergy with 19 nor compounds.

If I were you though, as stated above, I wouldn't think about adding in mast. Figure out and perfect your AI on your test dose first, then you can go adding in other compounds. Other compounds may introduce a whole host of other issues that you may not be ready for.(with mast: hair shedding, prostate issues, and other DHT related sides).

[Archey]

Everyone is diff with ai some of the advice i see here will crash many people e2 level i get gyno pretty easy and still can not do 12.5mg of aromisen eod it will crash me out there are signs to look for with e2 water retention emotional before my e2 gets way out of wack i get emotional songs movies shows things like this makes me want to cry lol sign number 2 for me is i dont have morning wood and my third is anxiety i wake up in the morning feeling super edgy then all i take is .25mg arimdex twice in a week and bam gone

[Archey]

Best way to dial in an ai is by paying attention to your boners and im being serious morning wood everytime you wake up is a great indicator your e2 is good to go to much ai no morning wood not enough no morning wood